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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
london |
"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??"
Possibly! Assuming they regulate nightclubs in the same way as swingers clubs. Not clear in local authorities will be able to apply their own set of criteria. 21st is the earliest date and also suggested the possibility of vax certification. |
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??"
Ooh or maybe you are
• 21 June: All legal limits on social contact set to be removed, with the remaining sectors of the economy reopened. Weddings are the only events where some restrictions may have to remain |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
london |
"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
No ... if I can’t get my eyebrows done then they sure as hell won’t open clubs."
Eyebrows included.... 21st is when possibly all restrictions removed.
EVERYONE GET VACCINATED! |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
london |
"Not sure how vax cert would work as not everyone will be vaccinated by June and vaccinations were never compulsory
But it's great news to get a glimmer of hope "
It’s only a consultation so doubt they will implement that anytime soon. |
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"My birthday is the 24th. If we can re-open, it would be the best birthday present ever!!!!!!
All Fingers crossed for this, I just need to work off this lockdown belly now!"
I think the whole of the nation will be out pounding the pavements and eating lettuce now that there is a glimmer of hope lol |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
No ... if I can’t get my eyebrows done then they sure as hell won’t open clubs.
Eyebrows included.... 21st is when possibly all restrictions removed.
EVERYONE GET VACCINATED! "
That's how we took it. All restrictions lifted including social distancing providing no foreign strains of the virus comes along and f##ks it all up. But lets not think about that and grasp this positive day in a very long pandemic. Good news day to lift everyones mood    |
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By *errysMan
over a year ago
milton keynes and kent |
Each step will be checked for 5 weeks before next step.
Schools are back 8 march so numbers will rise straight up as most involved in schools.... teachers pupils parents are non vaccine groups.
Thus step 2 will be stopped. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My birthday is the 24th. If we can re-open, it would be the best birthday present ever!!!!!!"
Ha! No way! I (Mr) was just thinking the same thing, albeit about my birthday, not yours! |
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"My birthday is the 24th. If we can re-open, it would be the best birthday present ever!!!!!!
Ha! No way! I (Mr) was just thinking the same thing, albeit about my birthday, not yours!"
We'll have to make it a night to remember then!!! |
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I wouldn’t bank on clubs opening in June.
Council will still need to give approval and it may be contingent on things like showing ID and a COVID test on the door, which would put a lot of people off.
Councils could well hold out for longer than June. There’s nothing more likely to spread the virus than naked strangers having sex in the couples room all on top of each other!
I don’t want my doctor being told that I tested positive trying to get into a sex club either!
Let’s hope they can open sometime this year though
Dan |
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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
Beyond the shadows. |
"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??"
That's how I understood it too. Might be ealyer or later depending on data. Fingers crossed everything goes the right way. |
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"My birthday is the 24th. If we can re-open, it would be the best birthday present ever!!!!!!"
Mine on 26th and finally an advantage of those numbers on the clock ... should be fully vaccinated - see you there
C xx |
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"My birthday is the 24th. If we can re-open, it would be the best birthday present ever!!!!!!
Mine on 26th and finally an advantage of those numbers on the clock ... should be fully vaccinated - see you there
C xx"
My birthday is actually 21 June....! Wouldn’t that be a great way to celebrate if one of the clubs DID reopen that day!! |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"Each step will be checked for 5 weeks before next step.
Schools are back 8 march so numbers will rise straight up as most involved in schools.... teachers pupils parents are non vaccine groups.
Thus step 2 will be stopped."
There's always someone to piss on the parade. Let us have our good news day and we can all see how things pan out along the road  |
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People seem to forget you need both vacinnations to be fully protected not just the first one. Only when the whole world has been fully vacinnated will normal life resume. Boris is very good at over promising but under delivering. Just an opinion from a guy who is desperate for normal life to return
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"Each step will be checked for 5 weeks before next step.
Schools are back 8 march so numbers will rise straight up as most involved in schools.... teachers pupils parents are non vaccine groups.
Thus step 2 will be stopped.
There's always someone to piss on the parade. Let us have our good news day and we can all see how things pan out along the road "
It’s a risk based judgment Boris has been trying to balance, deaths and the economy, yes he has let things get too far before putting in lockdowns, there are plenty of people still not adhering to the current rules. |
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"I wouldn’t bank on clubs opening in June.
Council will still need to give approval and it may be contingent on things like showing ID and a COVID test on the door, which would put a lot of people off.
Councils could well hold out for longer than June. There’s nothing more likely to spread the virus than naked strangers having sex in the couples room all on top of each other!
I don’t want my doctor being told that I tested positive trying to get into a sex club either!
Let’s hope they can open sometime this year though
Dan"
Agree. |
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"Most of u love doom news.. yes clubs are opening by june.. all clubs and even swingers clubs..stop your negativityhave you had this in writing ???"
Contracts can be oral u know.. not nrcessary in writing... just saying.. boris said the plan is irreversable..the intention is genuine |
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By *S2004Man
over a year ago
Bromsgrove |
They may, they may not but I for one (and us as a couple) am glad for the optimistic news (as those that have had covid and NOT underplaying it ) want to return to normality and not just with money swinging. The gym, the pub, temhectaking the kids out freely. Not getting carried away but cautiously optimistic.x |
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By *errysMan
over a year ago
milton keynes and kent |
I may be of the posters appearing as a doom monger.
In hindsight i probably agree with that and i apologise.
Kids do need to return to school asap my point is that there are some restrictions less risky to lift. Such as allowing people to travel without meeting anybody for instance. |
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Even if it gets put back a month, at least there is a glimmer of hope! Up until now, the night time industry has been floundering around with no real end in sight...this is a glimmer of hope.
Can the doomers please give it a bloody rest for one bloody day and let us enjoy this glimmer after nearly a year of closure. We're not fuckin stupid. We KNOW we could be delayed. We KNOW we'll have to jump through hoops. We know there could be a spanner in the works. We KNOW local councils could put fire hoops up for us to jump through. But just for one God damn day, just let us be positive and allow us to bask in that glimmer....please?  thank you muchly xxx |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
london |
"I wouldn’t bank on clubs opening in June.
Council will still need to give approval and it may be contingent on things like showing ID and a COVID test on the door, which would put a lot of people off.
Councils could well hold out for longer than June. There’s nothing more likely to spread the virus than naked strangers having sex in the couples room all on top of each other!
I don’t want my doctor being told that I tested positive trying to get into a sex club either!
Let’s hope they can open sometime this year though
Dan"
Reputable clubs will have a record of your ID and your doctor will not have to know where you may have been exposed |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
london |
"People seem to forget you need both vacinnations to be fully protected not just the first one. Only when the whole world has been fully vacinnated will normal life resume. Boris is very good at over promising but under delivering. Just an opinion from a guy who is desperate for normal life to return
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For enduring immunity, yes. You’re very well protected with just the one, there’s a wealth of data out there. |
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"Even if it gets put back a month, at least there is a glimmer of hope! Up until now, the night time industry has been floundering around with no real end in sight...this is a glimmer of hope.
Can the doomers please give it a bloody rest for one bloody day and let us enjoy this glimmer after nearly a year of closure. We're not fuckin stupid. We KNOW we could be delayed. We KNOW we'll have to jump through hoops. We know there could be a spanner in the works. We KNOW local councils could put fire hoops up for us to jump through. But just for one God damn day, just let us be positive and allow us to bask in that glimmer....please? thank you muchly xxx"
Well said |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
"I didn't even say anything wrong so why did my post get taken off? "
It didn't, it is on the other thread about clubs that you added to
You are best not questioning ( wrongly ) why posts were removed as it isn't allowed on the forum |
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By *aaLaaWoman
over a year ago
Pontesbury |
not sure it can count as a gym facility - though I do get good exercise & plenty of showers when I'm there. 
Probably doesn't count as a nightclub either, though I don't know ..... if you can have a few hundred people gyrating on a dance floor then maybe a few dozen horizontally gyrating in a sex club will be allowed. |
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"not sure it can count as a gym facility - though I do get good exercise & plenty of showers when I'm there.
Probably doesn't count as a nightclub either, though I don't know ..... if you can have a few hundred people gyrating on a dance floor then maybe a few dozen horizontally gyrating in a sex club will be allowed."
well said |
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By *u4rFunMan
over a year ago
wigan |
Let’s just hope things go to plan , and local authorities approve clubs for re-opening when ever they feel safe too. Then we all can go along to which ever club you visit, . We have all realised how much we take for granted in our personal life’s , So let’s all support your local clubs and the owners x |
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I read that "Adult Indoor Sports Groups" can restart on 17th May.
So le's be creative...what indoor adult sports can we dream up between now and May? "Jeux Sans Frontiers" might have nothing on what I guess could be coming up... |
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"I read that "Adult Indoor Sports Groups" can restart on 17th May.
So le's be creative...what indoor adult sports can we dream up between now and May? "Jeux Sans Frontiers" might have nothing on what I guess could be coming up..."
Naked Twister! That’s a sport isn’t it? |
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"All being well its go, go, GO 
Something to aim for and look forward to! Yay "
Hope so, we have been looking forward to visiting you guys again for ages. Just have to remember where we put the membership card!! |
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"Even if it gets put back a month, at least there is a glimmer of hope! Up until now, the night time industry has been floundering around with no real end in sight...this is a glimmer of hope.
Can the doomers please give it a bloody rest for one bloody day and let us enjoy this glimmer after nearly a year of closure. We're not fuckin stupid. We KNOW we could be delayed. We KNOW we'll have to jump through hoops. We know there could be a spanner in the works. We KNOW local councils could put fire hoops up for us to jump through. But just for one God damn day, just let us be positive and allow us to bask in that glimmer....please? thank you muchly xxx"
Well said  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Even if it gets put back a month, at least there is a glimmer of hope! Up until now, the night time industry has been floundering around with no real end in sight...this is a glimmer of hope.
Can the doomers please give it a bloody rest for one bloody day and let us enjoy this glimmer after nearly a year of closure. We're not fuckin stupid. We KNOW we could be delayed. We KNOW we'll have to jump through hoops. We know there could be a spanner in the works. We KNOW local councils could put fire hoops up for us to jump through. But just for one God damn day, just let us be positive and allow us to bask in that glimmer....please? thank you muchly xxx"
hear hear xxx |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
london |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
Why not STD and HIV test results too then?
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Because if you pass on an STD and then visit your gran who hasnt been vaccinated or is one of the minority where the vaccination hasnt worked, she wont catch the STD. Unless she consents to being fucked up the arse. Its a different disease with a different transmission method. None of this is difficult. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!"
. Don’t think they will be. It will become your own personal responsibility to decide if you want to go in. You won’t be missed
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
Ooh or maybe you are
• 21 June: All legal limits on social contact set to be removed, with the remaining sectors of the economy reopened. Weddings are the only events where some restrictions may have to remain"
Let me get this right.
I can't get married but maybe I could organise a gangbang.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!"
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
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"Even if it gets put back a month, at least there is a glimmer of hope! Up until now, the night time industry has been floundering around with no real end in sight...this is a glimmer of hope.
Can the doomers please give it a bloody rest for one bloody day and let us enjoy this glimmer after nearly a year of closure. We're not fuckin stupid. We KNOW we could be delayed. We KNOW we'll have to jump through hoops. We know there could be a spanner in the works. We KNOW local councils could put fire hoops up for us to jump through. But just for one God damn day, just let us be positive and allow us to bask in that glimmer....please? thank you muchly xxx"
And not just for one day, why not give it a rest full stop.
It's still going to be tough for clubs for a while and they need (and deserve) our support! |
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"Even if it gets put back a month, at least there is a glimmer of hope! Up until now, the night time industry has been floundering around with no real end in sight...this is a glimmer of hope.
Can the doomers please give it a bloody rest for one bloody day and let us enjoy this glimmer after nearly a year of closure. We're not fuckin stupid. We KNOW we could be delayed. We KNOW we'll have to jump through hoops. We know there could be a spanner in the works. We KNOW local councils could put fire hoops up for us to jump through. But just for one God damn day, just let us be positive and allow us to bask in that glimmer....please? thank you muchly xxx"
We cannot wait to try townhouse crossing everything for you guys! |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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To me it's positive signs on the road ahead, it may take slightly longer than anticipated to get there or it might be a smooth journey, but at least we know we're going in the right direction.
Let's just try to enjoy that feeling, it's been a very difficult year for many people, to know that at least we are pointing the right way has got to be helpful and good news even for those who who find it hard to find any positivity in the current situation. |
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"To me it's positive signs on the road ahead, it may take slightly longer than anticipated to get there or it might be a smooth journey, but at least we know we're going in the right direction.
Let's just try to enjoy that feeling, it's been a very difficult year for many people, to know that at least we are pointing the right way has got to be helpful and good news even for those who who find it hard to find any positivity in the current situation."
Very well put. It’s nice to see positive comments but as always the negative ones come along, we all know it could get held up but at least there is a plan now delayed or not it will be amazing when we get there x |
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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
Ooh or maybe you are
• 21 June: All legal limits on social contact set to be removed, with the remaining sectors of the economy reopened. Weddings are the only events where some restrictions may have to remain
Let me get this right.
I can't get married but maybe I could organise a gangbang. "
You could always get married that's was never stopped but in a few months you get married and have a gangbang |
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By *ottsJMan
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
d"
To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people. |
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"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
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To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people."
so free people don't get fly to other countries where its mandatory to travel there? only medical exemption should be allowed not just choice... at least for a while.. venue owners discretion as well. At the very least heat sensors on entry
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Not sure how vax cert would work as not everyone will be vaccinated by June and vaccinations were never compulsory
But it's great news to get a glimmer of hope "
Then the unvaccinated can stay at home |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
london |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
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To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people."
You are saying if it’s right and wrong. There is more and more evidence that shows that the vaccine prevents transmission, that means you are less likely to catch it from some one and pass it on to some one else who is vulnerable and didn’t ask for covid. I want to visit clubs but not be put at risk by your behaviour. Clubs should be creating a safe environment, the onus is in the unvaccinated. I’m not stopping you from drinking alcohol, it’s not illegal but i will ‘in fringe your rights’ to drive a train. In fact I will ensure that 5% drivers are randomly tested and will be sacked if they are found to have been drinking. Everyone has rights, they also have obligations and a private club should be able to prevent those who present a risk |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think saunas are included as part of sports and gym leisure activities so theoretically sauna based swing clubs could reopen in stage 2. Perhaps."
When gyms were open before Christmas, Steamers Quay was open in Torquay. Limited numbers in steam room etc. Though only for guys,
The Saturday swingers evenings didn’t go ahead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Was told before Christmas, when using a gym locker or a locker at work. Turn off track and trace as chances are your phone in a locker next to a infected persons phone will alert you, even though you might have never been near the person. |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
harrow |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
d
To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people."
On the other hand clubs and other places may well be entitled to do whatever they have to do to make things as safe as possible for their customers |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
d
To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people."
Wow now that is entitlement. My right not to get the jab so all you who have just stay away, it's your choice.
I can see the government providing the said Vaccine Passport and them not set any laws about where it has to be used. Like someone said earlier, venues by law have a duty of care to customers and staff so it could be up to individual venues putting the policy in place for where they see fit, a venues choice so then the public can make an informed choice which venue you would like to attend. A venue with your passport or a venue where no passport is needed. That way the government are not making anyone do something they don't want to do, just providing a service of downloading your passport for where it may be needed. Lets keep our fingers crossed as we know which venue we'd feel a little more safe and be using our vaccine passport to gain entry. Then we all have a choice |
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By *ottsJMan
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
d
To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people.
Wow now that is entitlement. My right not to get the jab so all you who have just stay away, it's your choice.
I can see the government providing the said Vaccine Passport and them not set any laws about where it has to be used. Like someone said earlier, venues by law have a duty of care to customers and staff so it could be up to individual venues putting the policy in place for where they see fit, a venues choice so then the public can make an informed choice which venue you would like to attend. A venue with your passport or a venue where no passport is needed. That way the government are not making anyone do something they don't want to do, just providing a service of downloading your passport for where it may be needed. Lets keep our fingers crossed as we know which venue we'd feel a little more safe and be using our vaccine passport to gain entry. Then we all have a choice "
Nowhere in my comment did I say you would have to stay away, what I said was that everyone needs to assess their own risk....
My point was that it was my opinion that I doubt the government will allow anyone to discriminate against those who haven’t , for whatever reason, had the vaccine.
If you have had the vaccine then the risk from someone that hasn’t will be small so I don’t see your worry.
To be clear I’m not saying I won’t have it, coincidentally I had an invite just today. What I’m saying is personal choice should be respected as it is in everything else. |
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To be clear I’m not saying I won’t have it, coincidentally I had an invite just today. What I’m saying is personal choice should be respected as it is in everything else."
Everyone will have an invite. It is taking up the offer which is important |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
d
To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people.
Wow now that is entitlement. My right not to get the jab so all you who have just stay away, it's your choice.
I can see the government providing the said Vaccine Passport and them not set any laws about where it has to be used. Like someone said earlier, venues by law have a duty of care to customers and staff so it could be up to individual venues putting the policy in place for where they see fit, a venues choice so then the public can make an informed choice which venue you would like to attend. A venue with your passport or a venue where no passport is needed. That way the government are not making anyone do something they don't want to do, just providing a service of downloading your passport for where it may be needed. Lets keep our fingers crossed as we know which venue we'd feel a little more safe and be using our vaccine passport to gain entry. Then we all have a choice
Nowhere in my comment did I say you would have to stay away, what I said was that everyone needs to assess their own risk....
My point was that it was my opinion that I doubt the government will allow anyone to discriminate against those who haven’t , for whatever reason, had the vaccine.
If you have had the vaccine then the risk from someone that hasn’t will be small so I don’t see your worry.
To be clear I’m not saying I won’t have it, coincidentally I had an invite just today. What I’m saying is personal choice should be respected as it is in everything else."
My point was I think we should have a Vaccine passport so we can make that choice instead of the only choice of attending places where we have no choice but to mix with the anti vaxers who have no regard for others well being, so reading this bit of your post, to me, makes those who are not vaccinated a bit entitled, if you don't want to mix with us stay away..... 'It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated' |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
Should have added. Imagine we have 2 swinging clubs we want to go to. One only let people in with the said Passport the other there are no checks. We then have an informed choice to which venue we would like to attend |
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By *ottsJMan
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"i hope clubs will be asking for proof of vaccinations off people's phones before allowing them in !!!
reckon its possible but some people including venue owners may not be medically able to do so that has to be worked out
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To be honest I don’t think that will ever happen. People have rights and if they choose not to be vaccinated that is their business. People shouldn’t be discriminated against because they haven’t been vaccinated. It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated
i’m not saying what is right and what is wrong I’m just saying that that’s how it should probably be if it’s to fall in line with every other right that we have as free people.
Wow now that is entitlement. My right not to get the jab so all you who have just stay away, it's your choice.
I can see the government providing the said Vaccine Passport and them not set any laws about where it has to be used. Like someone said earlier, venues by law have a duty of care to customers and staff so it could be up to individual venues putting the policy in place for where they see fit, a venues choice so then the public can make an informed choice which venue you would like to attend. A venue with your passport or a venue where no passport is needed. That way the government are not making anyone do something they don't want to do, just providing a service of downloading your passport for where it may be needed. Lets keep our fingers crossed as we know which venue we'd feel a little more safe and be using our vaccine passport to gain entry. Then we all have a choice
Nowhere in my comment did I say you would have to stay away, what I said was that everyone needs to assess their own risk....
My point was that it was my opinion that I doubt the government will allow anyone to discriminate against those who haven’t , for whatever reason, had the vaccine.
If you have had the vaccine then the risk from someone that hasn’t will be small so I don’t see your worry.
To be clear I’m not saying I won’t have it, coincidentally I had an invite just today. What I’m saying is personal choice should be respected as it is in everything else.
My point was I think we should have a Vaccine passport so we can make that choice instead of the only choice of attending places where we have no choice but to mix with the anti vaxers who have no regard for others well being, so reading this bit of your post, to me, makes those who are not vaccinated a bit entitled, if you don't want to mix with us stay away..... 'It will be up to the rest of the population to decide whether they want to attend venues where people may not be vaccinated'"
Unfortunately that will probably be the case with everything you do. I can’t see pubs, clubs, public transport, work places, shops or other areas where you will come close to people be asking for evidence of inoculation. Granted swing clubs do provide the opportunity closer contact but as the virus can be spread without personal contact everywhere will be a risk.
If you are vaccinated why worry about those that aren’t ? You've protected yourself so what does it matter? People just need to worry about themselves not what others choose to do.
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Unless the government specifically say that venues must only admit people with a covid vaccine, I doubt ANY swingers clubs are going to enforce this rule. They may have fast tests for those not vaccinated but they won't have a 'no vaccine, no entry' policy unless it becomes law |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"Unless the government specifically say that venues must only admit people with a covid vaccine, I doubt ANY swingers clubs are going to enforce this rule. They may have fast tests for those not vaccinated but they won't have a 'no vaccine, no entry' policy unless it becomes law"
I do tend to agree what you say, but the discussion I was having was whether the government would introduce a Vaccine Passport and how they could justify it. Also just because we are vaccinated doesn't mean we can't catch Covid, as with any vaccine its not going to be 100% protection. I added the bit about clubs asking or not asking for a passport as this thread is club related |
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I can't get immune to vaccines so it's a waste of time for me but if passports come in, I'll have it anyway, just to flash the card and I'll maintain personal hygiene etc... this is just one example of how vaccines are not the golden bullet though xx |
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"Unless the government specifically say that venues must only admit people with a covid vaccine, I doubt ANY swingers clubs are going to enforce this rule. They may have fast tests for those not vaccinated but they won't have a 'no vaccine, no entry' policy unless it becomes law"
in the short term the fast test must be the way and im sure the best owners like yourself will conduct a very welcoming and safe environment for everyone possible
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"I can't get immune to vaccines so it's a waste of time for me but if passports come in, I'll have it anyway, just to flash the card and I'll maintain personal hygiene etc... this is just one example of how vaccines are not the golden bullet though xx"
Wouldn't medical exemptions have some sort of document. It's all pie in the sky at the moment but I do think the Government are going to have to produce something as already Cruises have announced they will be asking for proof of vaccine and a covid test as you board a vessel |
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"I can't get immune to vaccines so it's a waste of time for me but if passports come in, I'll have it anyway, just to flash the card and I'll maintain personal hygiene etc... this is just one example of how vaccines are not the golden bullet though xx
Wouldn't medical exemptions have some sort of document. It's all pie in the sky at the moment but I do think the Government are going to have to produce something as already Cruises have announced they will be asking for proof of vaccine and a covid test as you board a vessel"
I'm more than happy to do PCR tests to travel. We go to Cyprus a lot and they have said a vaccine or negative PCR will suffice xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As you can still catch and spead the virus even after the vaccine, some countries are asking if it's worth losing trade asking for proof. Greece already said vaccine not required. |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
We look forward to the clubs reopening and all the great people who own and run them back to survival we hope. Still a long way to go for them and like Vicky from Townhouse said lots and lots of hoops to jump through |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My birthday is the 24th. If we can re-open, it would be the best birthday present ever!!!!!!"
Hope you have the best Birthday ever. I'll cross my fingers for you |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
The cynic in me believes that some local authorities will use Covid as a reason to suspend “sex entertainment” until such time as owners simply give up.
Despite our great interest in these venues, my fear is that some local authorities would rather they did not exist at all.
I unfortunately think that many Clubs will simply be prevented from opening again with “risk” being the excuse given. That said, I also think there may well be a huge rebound two or three years down the road when the same excuses simply will not hold water. Whether the old Clubs will re-open or new materialise - who knows... |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
harrow |
"As you can still catch and spead the virus even after the vaccine, some countries are asking if it's worth losing trade asking for proof. Greece already said vaccine not required. "
Exactly the opposite - Greece saying vaccinations mandatory if they open any air corridors. What they said is that quarantine is not required. |
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"Even if it gets put back a month, at least there is a glimmer of hope! Up until now, the night time industry has been floundering around with no real end in sight...this is a glimmer of hope.
Can the doomers please give it a bloody rest for one bloody day and let us enjoy this glimmer after nearly a year of closure. We're not fuckin stupid. We KNOW we could be delayed. We KNOW we'll have to jump through hoops. We know there could be a spanner in the works. We KNOW local councils could put fire hoops up for us to jump through. But just for one God damn day, just let us be positive and allow us to bask in that glimmer....please? thank you muchly xxx"
well said too much negativity, we need something to look forward to |
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By *tevelizCouple
over a year ago
northampton |
"Not sure how vax cert would work as not everyone will be vaccinated by June and vaccinations were never compulsory
But it's great news to get a glimmer of hope "
also the suggestion is an app on your phone. Not all of us have a smart phone, so how would that work.
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By *aul SxMan
over a year ago
Club Sx - Blackpool |
From the information I have read and seen there is a proposed joint vaccination & test certificate app along with a paper card version for older people without smartphones that is being suggested. In fact if you search the web, apps have already been devolved and being tested funded by our government simlar to the one in use in Israel.
I do understand all the concerns over discrimination and people who can't have vaccinations but as a club owner my first duty is the Health & Safety of my customers, volunteers & staff and there extended families & even my family.
As it is your right not to be vaccinated it should be my right as a club & business owner to ask you to take a test to prove you are covid negative or have been vaccinated. I can not see the discrimination argument if you refuse to take a test to enter my establishment if you have not had a vaccination. I would be 100% in favour of any such scheme of this nature and see it as necessary & logical way forward to reopening clubs and other venues like theatres,nightclubs that require close contact or need near full capacity to make them viable.
I not saying this will or will not happen but what I am saying even if it makes us unpopular we at club play would welcome it as a measured responsible way forward if it did. |
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By *jonesMan
over a year ago
Totnes |
"From the information I have read and seen there is a proposed joint vaccination & test certificate app along with a paper card version for older people without smartphones that is being suggested. In fact if you search the web, apps have already been devolved and being tested funded by our government simlar to the one in use in Israel.
I do understand all the concerns over discrimination and people who can't have vaccinations but as a club owner my first duty is the Health & Safety of my customers, volunteers & staff and there extended families & even my family.
As it is your right not to be vaccinated it should be my right as a club & business owner to ask you to take a test to prove you are covid negative or have been vaccinated. I can not see the discrimination argument if you refuse to take a test to enter my establishment if you have not had a vaccination. I would be 100% in favour of any such scheme of this nature and see it as necessary & logical way forward to reopening clubs and other venues like theatres,nightclubs that require close contact or need near full capacity to make them viable.
I not saying this will or will not happen but what I am saying even if it makes us unpopular we at club play would welcome it as a measured responsible way forward if it did."
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"From the information I have read and seen there is a proposed joint vaccination & test certificate app along with a paper card version for older people without smartphones that is being suggested. In fact if you search the web, apps have already been devolved and being tested funded by our government simlar to the one in use in Israel.
I do understand all the concerns over discrimination and people who can't have vaccinations but as a club owner my first duty is the Health & Safety of my customers, volunteers & staff and there extended families & even my family.
As it is your right not to be vaccinated it should be my right as a club & business owner to ask you to take a test to prove you are covid negative or have been vaccinated. I can not see the discrimination argument if you refuse to take a test to enter my establishment if you have not had a vaccination. I would be 100% in favour of any such scheme of this nature and see it as necessary & logical way forward to reopening clubs and other venues like theatres,nightclubs that require close contact or need near full capacity to make them viable.
I not saying this will or will not happen but what I am saying even if it makes us unpopular we at club play would welcome it as a measured responsible way forward if it did."
To the contrary, it would make you popular. People love people who have their wellbeing at heart. You have shown great resolve all through this pandemic Paul, and it shows through your posts |
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"From the information I have read and seen there is a proposed joint vaccination & test certificate app along with a paper card version for older people without smartphones that is being suggested. In fact if you search the web, apps have already been devolved and being tested funded by our government simlar to the one in use in Israel.
I do understand all the concerns over discrimination and people who can't have vaccinations but as a club owner my first duty is the Health & Safety of my customers, volunteers & staff and there extended families & even my family.
As it is your right not to be vaccinated it should be my right as a club & business owner to ask you to take a test to prove you are covid negative or have been vaccinated. I can not see the discrimination argument if you refuse to take a test to enter my establishment if you have not had a vaccination. I would be 100% in favour of any such scheme of this nature and see it as necessary & logical way forward to reopening clubs and other venues like theatres,nightclubs that require close contact or need near full capacity to make them viable.
I not saying this will or will not happen but what I am saying even if it makes us unpopular we at club play would welcome it as a measured responsible way forward if it did."
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"From the information I have read and seen there is a proposed joint vaccination & test certificate app along with a paper card version for older people without smartphones that is being suggested. In fact if you search the web, apps have already been devolved and being tested funded by our government simlar to the one in use in Israel.
I do understand all the concerns over discrimination and people who can't have vaccinations but as a club owner my first duty is the Health & Safety of my customers, volunteers & staff and there extended families & even my family.
As it is your right not to be vaccinated it should be my right as a club & business owner to ask you to take a test to prove you are covid negative or have been vaccinated. I can not see the discrimination argument if you refuse to take a test to enter my establishment if you have not had a vaccination. I would be 100% in favour of any such scheme of this nature and see it as necessary & logical way forward to reopening clubs and other venues like theatres,nightclubs that require close contact or need near full capacity to make them viable.
I not saying this will or will not happen but what I am saying even if it makes us unpopular we at club play would welcome it as a measured responsible way forward if it did."
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??"
That’s how I interpreted the rule changes and I am optimistic I will be in the chameleons Hot tub on Monday 21st
To all the negative responses out there - please keep your opinions to yourself and let’s use the swinging site for optimism and escapism.
Some people spout white noise info like they have a hot line to Downing Street...Newsflash !! We all read papers, watch the news and understand life will change and we might need to tattoo ourselves with vaccine accreditation but under current guidance & with the wind blowing in the right direction on June 21st I’m having a party ?? |
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
Possibly! Assuming they regulate nightclubs in the same way as swingers clubs. Not clear in local authorities will be able to apply their own set of criteria. 21st is the earliest date and also suggested the possibility of vax certification. "
The liklihood is unfortunately a no because even though a lot of clubs do have Saunas, and hot tubs because of the nature of the club the local authorities are likely to do more random inspections to ensure social distancing is being observed , and inevitably a club will have people playing during an inspection , and a club will not want to risk their license over having reduced custom with restrictive services in place . |
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
That’s how I interpreted the rule changes and I am optimistic I will be in the chameleons Hot tub on Monday 21st
To all the negative responses out there - please keep your opinions to yourself and let’s use the swinging site for optimism and escapism.
Some people spout white noise info like they have a hot line to Downing Street...Newsflash !! We all read papers, watch the news and understand life will change and we might need to tattoo ourselves with vaccine accreditation but under current guidance & with the wind blowing in the right direction on June 21st I’m having a party ?? "
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
Possibly! Assuming they regulate nightclubs in the same way as swingers clubs. Not clear in local authorities will be able to apply their own set of criteria. 21st is the earliest date and also suggested the possibility of vax certification.
The liklihood is unfortunately a no because even though a lot of clubs do have Saunas, and hot tubs because of the nature of the club the local authorities are likely to do more random inspections to ensure social distancing is being observed , and inevitably a club will have people playing during an inspection , and a club will not want to risk their license over having reduced custom with restrictive services in place ."
Under the current plan, there will be no requirement from the 21st of June to social distance.
So there is no need for local authorities to inspect to ensure social distancing is being maintained..? Or is there some exception we've missed? |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
Possibly! Assuming they regulate nightclubs in the same way as swingers clubs. Not clear in local authorities will be able to apply their own set of criteria. 21st is the earliest date and also suggested the possibility of vax certification.
The liklihood is unfortunately a no because even though a lot of clubs do have Saunas, and hot tubs because of the nature of the club the local authorities are likely to do more random inspections to ensure social distancing is being observed , and inevitably a club will have people playing during an inspection , and a club will not want to risk their license over having reduced custom with restrictive services in place .
Under the current plan, there will be no requirement from the 21st of June to social distance.
So there is no need for local authorities to inspect to ensure social distancing is being maintained..? Or is there some exception we've missed?"
That's how we read into it. No social Distancing and all venues to reopen. All dependant on foreign strains of the virus not derailing the dates the government set out. The message was the way forward is to learn to live with this virus with vaccines and booster vaccines |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
Possibly! Assuming they regulate nightclubs in the same way as swingers clubs. Not clear in local authorities will be able to apply their own set of criteria. 21st is the earliest date and also suggested the possibility of vax certification.
The liklihood is unfortunately a no because even though a lot of clubs do have Saunas, and hot tubs because of the nature of the club the local authorities are likely to do more random inspections to ensure social distancing is being observed , and inevitably a club will have people playing during an inspection , and a club will not want to risk their license over having reduced custom with restrictive services in place .
Under the current plan, there will be no requirement from the 21st of June to social distance.
So there is no need for local authorities to inspect to ensure social distancing is being maintained..? Or is there some exception we've missed?
That's how we read into it. No social Distancing and all venues to reopen. All dependant on foreign strains of the virus not derailing the dates the government set out. The message was the way forward is to learn to live with this virus with vaccines and booster vaccines"
Ive looked at the licence for my local club, it’s on the local authority website. It’s a bar with a Kate licence. It does not explicitly talk about any ‘adult’ activities let alone swinging. There are not stipend or porn so isnt classed as a sexual entertainment venue. On that basis it should be fine? I don’t know if they can explicitly compel them to close for punters having sex if social distancing is no longer mandatory or household groups meeting with no restrictions? |
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By *tevelizCouple
over a year ago
northampton |
"From the information I have read and seen there is a proposed joint vaccination & test certificate app along with a paper card version for older people without smartphones that is being suggested. In fact if you search the web, apps have already been devolved and being tested funded by our government simlar to the one in use in Israel.Just wish to point out that it is not only older people that do not have smart phones.
I do understand all the concerns over discrimination and people who can't have vaccinations but as a club owner my first duty is the Health & Safety of my customers, volunteers & staff and there extended families & even my family.
As it is your right not to be vaccinated it should be my right as a club & business owner to ask you to take a test to prove you are covid negative or have been vaccinated. I can not see the discrimination argument if you refuse to take a test to enter my establishment if you have not had a vaccination. I would be 100% in favour of any such scheme of this nature and see it as necessary & logical way forward to reopening clubs and other venues like theatres,nightclubs that require close contact or need near full capacity to make them viable.
I not saying this will or will not happen but what I am saying even if it makes us unpopular we at club play would welcome it as a measured responsible way forward if it did."
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"From the information I have read and seen there is a proposed joint vaccination & test certificate app along with a paper card version for older people without smartphones that is being suggested. In fact if you search the web, apps have already been devolved and being tested funded by our government simlar to the one in use in Israel.Just wish to point out that it is not only older people that do not have smart phones.
I do understand all the concerns over discrimination and people who can't have vaccinations but as a club owner my first duty is the Health & Safety of my customers, volunteers & staff and there extended families & even my family.
As it is your right not to be vaccinated it should be my right as a club & business owner to ask you to take a test to prove you are covid negative or have been vaccinated. I can not see the discrimination argument if you refuse to take a test to enter my establishment if you have not had a vaccination. I would be 100% in favour of any such scheme of this nature and see it as necessary & logical way forward to reopening clubs and other venues like theatres,nightclubs that require close contact or need near full capacity to make them viable.
I not saying this will or will not happen but what I am saying even if it makes us unpopular we at club play would welcome it as a measured responsible way forward if it did."
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By *aul SxMan
over a year ago
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"Did I get that right - possibly allowed from 21st June ??
Possibly! Assuming they regulate nightclubs in the same way as swingers clubs. Not clear in local authorities will be able to apply their own set of criteria. 21st is the earliest date and also suggested the possibility of vax certification.
The liklihood is unfortunately a no because even though a lot of clubs do have Saunas, and hot tubs because of the nature of the club the local authorities are likely to do more random inspections to ensure social distancing is being observed , and inevitably a club will have people playing during an inspection , and a club will not want to risk their license over having reduced custom with restrictive services in place .
Under the current plan, there will be no requirement from the 21st of June to social distance.
So there is no need for local authorities to inspect to ensure social distancing is being maintained..? Or is there some exception we've missed?
That's how we read into it. No social Distancing and all venues to reopen. All dependant on foreign strains of the virus not derailing the dates the government set out. The message was the way forward is to learn to live with this virus with vaccines and booster vaccines
Ive looked at the licence for my local club, it’s on the local authority website. It’s a bar with a Kate licence. It does not explicitly talk about any ‘adult’ activities let alone swinging. There are not stipend or porn so isnt classed as a sexual entertainment venue. On that basis it should be fine? I don’t know if they can explicitly compel them to close for punters having sex if social distancing is no longer mandatory or household groups meeting with no restrictions?"
Swingers venues can be classified in many different ways depending on the area & council. Some are adult entertainment venues others nightclubs, some leisure venues, others spars. Some have an alchol lincense, some don't its not a one size fits all I am afraid.
All that is being suggesting is a way forward that helps keep people as safe as possible in clubs and other places. Like I said this may or may not happen but the fact the government has changed it's message and ordered a review to be delivered on 21st of June on test & vaccination certificates so publicly makes it a possibility and them floating the idea.
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"No chance it's happening...."
I hate this kind of attitude, at least explain the statement!
Personally once the nightclubs are open and the young and single are allowed to mingle (I’m a poet and I didn’t even know it!) then there’s no reason for clubs not allowed to be running again in my view. |
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We shall all have to wait and see, The experts on here may or may or be correct. And even then, it will depend on he owners of the clubs if they WISH to open? After all it’s their business, insurances etc.
Personally I’m a glass half full type of chap and I’m hopefully that come June/July they may very well be reopening.
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