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"I've been lucky enough to attend Club F on a bi night and had an amazing time in the dungeon being whipped and pleasured by a gorgeous bi couple with an audience! Anyway in answer to your question I think bi MM play in clubs on non-bi nights seems to be frowned upon still, which is such a shame. If I was approached by a bi couple at a Club, I'd be more than happy to play bisexually in full view of others, but I think some people are frightened to do so on a 'normal' night. If you're around at Club F this coming Saturday I'd be more than happy for you both to take advantage of me in a public room! There's enough space at the Club for everyone to enjoy themselves, so I guess if it was to put anybody off they could play elsewhere, if that doesn't sound too selfish!? X" I reckon that'll be interesting to watch I wouldn't care if bi males were playing after all us bi females play freely x | |||
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 and me being able to pleasure them both, getting intimate rather than worry about who's touching who! | |||
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"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. " love this comment | |||
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"As I see it, if you don't mind seeing male/female and female/female partners fucking but shudder at the thought of two men, that is some homophobic double-standard bullshit." damb right! i believe tht in sex if anything feels goood or yu wna try yu shud sex is a world worth exploring | |||
"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. "  | |||
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"Also, so long as nobody is trying to force you to do something you don't want to, it isn't really your business what anyone else is doing!" nahh defo not good to see another open minded woman | |||
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"I think everyone should be free to enjoy whatever and whoever they want, so long as it is consensual. But also m/m is hot as hell. "tht wud be goood yu playin on end of bed b4 joinin in | |||
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"As I see it, if you don't mind seeing male/female and female/female partners fucking but shudder at the thought of two men, that is some homophobic double-standard bullshit."
So true.... all of these people will have some great m/f sloppy blow job porn in their collection - but as soon as they see a guy with a cock in his mouth they feel uneasy.
People with those Victorian views should be forced to watch it...! | |||
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"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. " Well said because as most men seem to get turned on seeing two ladies play i find it extremely horny watching two guys | |||
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"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. Well said because as most men seem to get turned on seeing two ladies play i find it extremely horny watching two guys " I'm not particularly turned on by two ladies playing but I don't find it 'off putting'. Threads like this are often an eye opener to attitude and help me avoid/block those with homophobic tendencies. In the swinging world we are all deviants to some degree, there are a few intolerant prudes who mistake themselves as deviants though | |||
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"My partner and I often go with one of his male partners to club nights that are 'straight' nights. We enjoy watching people being outside their comfort zone when they start doing things with each other. Two men being intimate is no different to a man and a woman being intimate. People that have a problem with it, or it makes them feel uncomfortable, strike me as being pretty homophobic and narrow minded. Especially for swingers." I would love to see that! | |||
"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. " As its not for us we avoid bi events... We are certainly not phobic, just find it unsexy and a turn off... So we would leave an area if on a straight night it was happening. As its not for us. Same as many would walk off if I was doing a bukkake or sloppy spitting bj session as not all like it. I wouldn't watch two women either as it doesn't do it for me... Where as it does for Mr. We have witnessed once in a club a lady and a tv ( btw we know this isn't the standard behaviour) but the lady was getting guys laid back.. And at times sitting on their faces and then sharing with her tv friend. Some guys obviously got upset at finding this out... But this I'm sure most would agree was out of order. | |||
"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. As its not for us we avoid bi events... We are certainly not phobic, just find it unsexy and a turn off... So we would leave an area if on a straight night it was happening. As its not for us. Same as many would walk off if I was doing a bukkake or sloppy spitting bj session as not all like it. I wouldn't watch two women either as it doesn't do it for me... Where as it does for Mr. We have witnessed once in a club a lady and a tv ( btw we know this isn't the standard behaviour) but the lady was getting guys laid back.. And at times sitting on their faces and then sharing with her tv friend. Some guys obviously got upset at finding this out... But this I'm sure most would agree was out of order. " I agree with your last comment if what you're describing was the TV sucking a guy without his consent? Same as any non consensual act is wrong. Personally I've lost count of the number of men who've taken hold of my hips or started to touch me when they've approached me from behind not realising my 'secret'. Some apologise and stop when they realise some don't. | |||
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"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. As its not for us we avoid bi events... We are certainly not phobic, just find it unsexy and a turn off... So we would leave an area if on a straight night it was happening. As its not for us. Same as many would walk off if I was doing a bukkake or sloppy spitting bj session as not all like it. I wouldn't watch two women either as it doesn't do it for me... Where as it does for Mr. We have witnessed once in a club a lady and a tv ( btw we know this isn't the standard behaviour) but the lady was getting guys laid back.. And at times sitting on their faces and then sharing with her tv friend. Some guys obviously got upset at finding this out... But this I'm sure most would agree was out of order. I agree with your last comment if what you're describing was the TV sucking a guy without his consent? Same as any non consensual act is wrong. Personally I've lost count of the number of men who've taken hold of my hips or started to touch me when they've approached me from behind not realising my 'secret'. Some apologise and stop when they realise some don't. "Yeah it was without them knowing... And I have seen wwhat you state at the end with some of our tv friends and can we normally have a giggle about it. The look of omg on some guys faces is priceless. | |||
"If people find it 'offputting' they should leave and take their judgemental shit elsewhere. Simple as that. As its not for us we avoid bi events... We are certainly not phobic, just find it unsexy and a turn off... So we would leave an area if on a straight night it was happening. As its not for us. Same as many would walk off if I was doing a bukkake or sloppy spitting bj session as not all like it. I wouldn't watch two women either as it doesn't do it for me... Where as it does for Mr. We have witnessed once in a club a lady and a tv ( btw we know this isn't the standard behaviour) but the lady was getting guys laid back.. And at times sitting on their faces and then sharing with her tv friend. Some guys obviously got upset at finding this out... But this I'm sure most would agree was out of order. I agree with your last comment if what you're describing was the TV sucking a guy without his consent? Same as any non consensual act is wrong. Personally I've lost count of the number of men who've taken hold of my hips or started to touch me when they've approached me from behind not realising my 'secret'. Some apologise and stop when they realise some don't. "I've occasionally (very occasionally) had gay men hit on me before in a similar way. I just point out to them that 'people are people' and usually we get on with it anyway. But I think people are a bit more open minded in fetish clubs often. | |||
"In the swinging world we are all deviants to some degree, there are a few intolerant prudes who mistake themselves as deviants though "'We're filthy kinky deviants but ewwwww that guy has a cock in his mouth waaah.'  | |||
"I think everyone should be free to enjoy whatever and whoever they want, so long as it is consensual. But also m/m is hot as hell. " | |||
"In the swinging world we are all deviants to some degree, there are a few intolerant prudes who mistake themselves as deviants though
'We're filthy kinky deviants but ewwwww that guy has a cock in his mouth waaah.' " | |||
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"Out of curiosity, do people react the same to a woman fucking a guy in the arse, or is it only when another dude does it?" I won't stay to watch that either. Or a woman with a strap on with another woman... It does nothing for me but I will admit when we have found ourselves once at chams on a Monday we felt very uncomfortable but did agree that the couples were only enjoying what they enjoyed. ( we thought bank holiday in the day was straight as it says bi night) | |||
"Out of curiosity, do people react the same to a woman fucking a guy in the arse, or is it only when another dude does it? I won't stay to watch that either. Or a woman with a strap on with another woman... It does nothing for me but I will admit when we have found ourselves once at chams on a Monday we felt very uncomfortable but did agree that the couples were only enjoying what they enjoyed. ( we thought bank holiday in the day was straight as it says bi night) " How about anal sex? I mean, one bum is the same as another, right? | |||
"Out of curiosity, do people react the same to a woman fucking a guy in the arse, or is it only when another dude does it? I won't stay to watch that either. Or a woman with a strap on with another woman... It does nothing for me but I will admit when we have found ourselves once at chams on a Monday we felt very uncomfortable but did agree that the couples were only enjoying what they enjoyed. ( we thought bank holiday in the day was straight as it says bi night) How about anal sex? I mean, one bum is the same as another, right?" Some bums are exceptional | |||
"Out of curiosity, do people react the same to a woman fucking a guy in the arse, or is it only when another dude does it? I won't stay to watch that either. Or a woman with a strap on with another woman... It does nothing for me but I will admit when we have found ourselves once at chams on a Monday we felt very uncomfortable but did agree that the couples were only enjoying what they enjoyed. ( we thought bank holiday in the day was straight as it says bi night) How about anal sex? I mean, one bum is the same as another, right?" Just because I am the only one saying that I wwould be uncomfortable if it were common place in a club do not think it's just me that feels it. I'm aware that for some its not a popular view, I'm just not one to suck up to people to be liked. I'd rather say how I feel and think and be honest. However I have seen the muttterings when it does happen on regular nights and also I have been first in line to defend people's right to feel safe and comfortable at a club. Including getting very defensive of a ts friend of ours who went to a club and it took is considerable convining to get her to come along. was disgusted and upset by some comments overhead about the rumours that there was a guy that looked like a girl. However she had not played public with guys... Only girls Just because it turns me off.. doesn't make me narrow minded or phobic. It's took me Many years to be happy with what turns me on... And even to explore what I like and don't. It's not like I run away screaming. I just find it makes me uncomfortable but that is maybe also to do with the fact that I have a straight man... And before I played with women at all. The Amount of women that helped themselves to me has perhaps clouded my view. As even now I'd always ask... Male or female If I could touch. | |||
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if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ??? | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???"Of course and have known many to indulge this  | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
Of course and have known many to indulge this "and club f has enough private rooms where that is an option that i don't see why people couldn't take.... | |||
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"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
Of course and have known many to indulge this
and club f has enough private rooms where that is an option that i don't see why people couldn't take...."Ahh we've never visited club f so can't comment on any particular instances there, but have found that the clubs we do visit have never had issues regards this. | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???"I'd imagine that is what happens anyway x | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???"I find many guys who top would prefer to do it in private anyhow but I don't see why I should go to a private room to kiss someone or to start a little foreplay. | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
I find many guys who top would prefer to do it in private anyhow but I don't see why I should go to a private room to kiss someone or to start a little foreplay.
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"i think there is two different things going on here.... respecting the people who are playing.... respecting the night that you are attending.... if there were loads of straight people who went "i know.... lets go on a bi night"... there would be a certain amount of angst going on..... but there does feel like a bit of "well we are going to do what we are going to do and screw everyone else" going on here.... and that's why i say some of it has to come down to respecting the tone and the spirit of the night that you are attending... " it is about respect And I totally agree with what you have put. And it's the main reason we now check as its not Fair on those at the bi nights If people not comfortable go as even if like us they wouldn't go " eeww" our body language would perhaps show we weren't comfortable and that could.upset someone's night x | |||
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"go for it,youv paid to get in lol x " | |||
" How about anal sex? I mean, one bum is the same as another, right? Just because I am the only one saying that I wwould be uncomfortable if it were common place in a club do not think it's just me that feels it. I'm aware that for some its not a popular view, I'm just not one to suck up to people to be liked. I'd rather say how I feel and think and be honest. " I'm just genuinely interested. Like, does anal sex between a man and a woman make you feel equally as crappy? Or is it just anal sex between two men that you don't like? What is it about a man's bum being penetrated that you don't like? I just don't understand it, I think it's interesting. (For the record, my partner and I are made *very* uncomfortable if clubs or attendee's are not welcoming to bisexual men who like playing with other men.) | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
"No, my partner and I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone suggested we should play behind closed doors just because he likes men. If people who like men are a problem, perhaps we should not allow straight women into clubs? | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
Of course and have known many to indulge this
and club f has enough private rooms where that is an option that i don't see why people couldn't take...."I don't know about you, but I usually go to sex clubs because I like watching and being watched. If it wasn't about the voyeurism/exhibitionism then we'd just fuck at home. A private room defeats the object. | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
No, my partner and I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone suggested we should play behind closed doors just because he likes men.
If people who like men are a problem, perhaps we should not allow straight women into clubs?" | |||
"go for it,youv paid to get in lol x "Exactamundo | |||
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" How about anal sex? I mean, one bum is the same as another, right? Just because I am the only one saying that I wwould be uncomfortable if it were common place in a club do not think it's just me that feels it. I'm aware that for some its not a popular view, I'm just not one to suck up to people to be liked. I'd rather say how I feel and think and be honest. I'm just genuinely interested. Like, does anal sex between a man and a woman make you feel equally as crappy? Or is it just anal sex between two men that you don't like? What is it about a man's bum being penetrated that you don't like? I just don't understand it, I think it's interesting. (For the record, my partner and I are made *very* uncomfortable if clubs or attendee's are not welcoming to bisexual men who like playing with other men.)" Honestly I don't really look close enough to know if a guy is doing his Mrs up the arse. I have no wish to fuck a guy with a toy or strap on, so yes its in general guy on guy sex that makes me uncomfortable. to be honest many years ago I would have gone as far as to say it disgusted me but I have become more open in my understanding, but doesn't mean I have to find it enjoyable. So simply put we do not attend bi nights. To be honest we find that greedy girl play can be frowned upon and commented on if not in the right night too. Or if a club is full of larger ladies and its not bbw nights x I'd say it's a little unfair that most clubs have only one bi event a week. | |||
" How about anal sex? I mean, one bum is the same as another, right? Just because I am the only one saying that I wwould be uncomfortable if it were common place in a club do not think it's just me that feels it. I'm aware that for some its not a popular view, I'm just not one to suck up to people to be liked. I'd rather say how I feel and think and be honest. I'm just genuinely interested. Like, does anal sex between a man and a woman make you feel equally as crappy? Or is it just anal sex between two men that you don't like? What is it about a man's bum being penetrated that you don't like? I just don't understand it, I think it's interesting. (For the record, my partner and I are made *very* uncomfortable if clubs or attendee's are not welcoming to bisexual men who like playing with other men.) Honestly I don't really look close enough to know if a guy is doing his Mrs up the arse. I have no wish to fuck a guy with a toy or strap on, so yes its in general guy on guy sex that makes me uncomfortable. to be honest many years ago I would have gone as far as to say it disgusted me but I have become more open in my understanding, but doesn't mean I have to find it enjoyable. So simply put we do not attend bi nights. To be honest we find that greedy girl play can be frowned upon and commented on if not in the right night too. Or if a club is full of larger ladies and its not bbw nights x I'd say it's a little unfair that most clubs have only one bi event a week. " We can't make weeknights - when bi nights are held. So if anyone tells us we're making them uncomfortable, we just suggest they leave. Harsh. But you know, it's supposed to be a place where adults can hang out and have sex with people they find attractive (or don't... whatever floats your boat). | |||
" How about anal sex? I mean, one bum is the same as another, right? Just because I am the only one saying that I wwould be uncomfortable if it were common place in a club do not think it's just me that feels it. I'm aware that for some its not a popular view, I'm just not one to suck up to people to be liked. I'd rather say how I feel and think and be honest. I'm just genuinely interested. Like, does anal sex between a man and a woman make you feel equally as crappy? Or is it just anal sex between two men that you don't like? What is it about a man's bum being penetrated that you don't like? I just don't understand it, I think it's interesting. (For the record, my partner and I are made *very* uncomfortable if clubs or attendee's are not welcoming to bisexual men who like playing with other men.) Honestly I don't really look close enough to know if a guy is doing his Mrs up the arse. I have no wish to fuck a guy with a toy or strap on, so yes its in general guy on guy sex that makes me uncomfortable. to be honest many years ago I would have gone as far as to say it disgusted me but I have become more open in my understanding, but doesn't mean I have to find it enjoyable. So simply put we do not attend bi nights. To be honest we find that greedy girl play can be frowned upon and commented on if not in the right night too. Or if a club is full of larger ladies and its not bbw nights x I'd say it's a little unfair that most clubs have only one bi event a week. " Out of interest - is it the male or female part of you guys that finds the thought of two men together disgusting? | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
Of course and have known many to indulge this
and club f has enough private rooms where that is an option that i don't see why people couldn't take....
I don't know about you, but I usually go to sex clubs because I like watching and being watched. If it wasn't about the voyeurism/exhibitionism then we'd just fuck at home.
A private room defeats the object."but club f has the option on private rooms to have the curtains open or closed.... if people want to then watch... thats up to them
for ask much of this arguements seems to be "well everyone should be accepting of everything all the time" if that was the case there would be no need for specific bi nights, or ladies only nights, or TV/TS nights, or BBC nights, or BBW nights, or Fet Nights.... and the list goes on, and on, and on
but what you are going to do is actually by pushing this is the very thing you say you are wanting to avoid, you are going to push people out of clubs... but it is going to be those who say "well... to be honest i may not be so comfortable with something! so i won't go"
again... its about respecting the theme/style of the night, and respecting the spirit of the night as it is intended..... its not saying "oh you can't go!!!" its saying "well there may not be people there who like the same thing as you, and if not but you find some people that are.... there are places privately you can" | |||
) rather than him having a "how dare you flirt with me, I'm straight. Do I look like a raving hat rack?" | |||
"again... its about respecting the theme/style of the night, and respecting the spirit of the night as it is intended..... its not saying "oh you can't go!!!" its saying "well there may not be people there who like the same thing as you, and if not but you find some people that are.... there are places privately you can"" So if I go to a 'straight night' and find something I don't enjoy the look of - like an ugly man fucking his wife. Or two tanned women shagging. Or a 70 year old shagging an 18 year old. Should I just ask them to go and do it in a private room? Because I don't like it? Or should I just grow the fuck up, realise that my taste isn't the same as theirs, and look at something more interesting instead? | |||
"We wouldn't need bi nights if everyone just accepted people for who they are. If you don't want to see an act don't look at it. Having said that I do like a bi night because I can flirt with a guy knowing the only rejection I'll get is him not fancying me (as if ) rather than him having a "how dare you flirt with me, I'm straight. Do I look like a raving hat rack?" "Nail on the head. 'Bi nights' are there as a way to ensure that you are more likely to meet people you want to meet. There's a good chance that almost everyone at a bi night is at least open to the idea of same-sex shagging. There's no reason to prevent bisexual behaviour at any other night (I think most men would be VERY upset if clubs said all gay women had to have lesbian sex only in private rooms), but it does reduce the likelihood of finding people who find you attractive. | |||
" Out of interest - is it the male or female part of you guys that finds the thought of two men together disgusting?" We didnt say we found it disgusting, just not something that turns us on.. and actually its the female... But Mr doesnt want to see guys with guys either.. So as we say, we now make sure we dont accidentally end up at a club on a bi day/night. To be fair we experienced a similar thing on a bbw bash.. a party had been booked on the same day as the bbw bash. Several of the guys were very anti larger ladies..and they said it made them very uncomfortable to see all that flesh on display. Simply it wasnt for them. We didnt run screaming on bi day.. and we also had a new understanding of how bi guys may feel on nights that its not seen as acceptable. | |||
"again... its about respecting the theme/style of the night, and respecting the spirit of the night as it is intended..... its not saying "oh you can't go!!!" its saying "well there may not be people there who like the same thing as you, and if not but you find some people that are.... there are places privately you can" So if I go to a 'straight night' and find something I don't enjoy the look of - like an ugly man fucking his wife. Or two tanned women shagging. Or a 70 year old shagging an 18 year old. Should I just ask them to go and do it in a private room? Because I don't like it? Or should I just grow the fuck up, realise that my taste isn't the same as theirs, and look at something more interesting instead? " fuck it.... i give up.... I'm not in the mood for an arguement and I was trying to be rational..... but have at it..... | |||
"again... its about respecting the theme/style of the night, and respecting the spirit of the night as it is intended..... its not saying "oh you can't go!!!" its saying "well there may not be people there who like the same thing as you, and if not but you find some people that are.... there are places privately you can" So if I go to a 'straight night' and find something I don't enjoy the look of - like an ugly man fucking his wife. Or two tanned women shagging. Or a 70 year old shagging an 18 year old. Should I just ask them to go and do it in a private room? Because I don't like it? Or should I just grow the fuck up, realise that my taste isn't the same as theirs, and look at something more interesting instead? fuck it.... i give up.... I'm not in the mood for an arguement and I was trying to be rational..... but have at it....." I just think trying to shove bisexuality into a side room when it's men but not women is pretty grim behaviour. It's double standards and it encourages the idea that women who find women attractive should somehow be put on a pedestal (unicorn anyone?) while men that find men attractive are dirty, shameful, and should be made to hide away from view. | |||
" for ask much of this arguements seems to be "well everyone should be accepting of everything all the time" if that was the case there would be no need for specific bi nights, or ladies only nights, or TV/TS nights, or BBC nights, or BBW nights, or Fet Nights.... and the list goes on, and on, and on " This is what I was trying to say but you said it so much better.. The forum when tired is not a good thing | |||
"Or should I just grow the fuck up, realise that my taste isn't the same as theirs, and look at something more interesting instead? " Yes! It 'makes you feel uncomfortable' that two dudes are getting it on? You think they should 'keep it behind closed doors'? The 80s called, they want their homophobic clichés back. | |||
"again... its about respecting the theme/style of the night, and respecting the spirit of the night as it is intended..... its not saying "oh you can't go!!!" its saying "well there may not be people there who like the same thing as you, and if not but you find some people that are.... there are places privately you can" So if I go to a 'straight night' and find something I don't enjoy the look of - like an ugly man fucking his wife. Or two tanned women shagging. Or a 70 year old shagging an 18 year old. Should I just ask them to go and do it in a private room? Because I don't like it? Or should I just grow the fuck up, realise that my taste isn't the same as theirs, and look at something more interesting instead? " | |||
"Or should I just grow the fuck up, realise that my taste isn't the same as theirs, and look at something more interesting instead? Yes! It 'makes you feel uncomfortable' that two dudes are getting it on? You think they should 'keep it behind closed doors'? The 80s called, they want their homophobic clichés back." Its not homophobic its called preference.. I find it unsexy and a turn off and makes me feel uncomfortable because of others actions previous. I want my partner to feel relaxed and I also dont want to turn around and come face to face with something that honestly switches off my mojo .. I am sure the site of me doing my bukkake thing turns some off too... So I stick to events its not going to be frowned on.. or we take a group off privately... Try having a hardcore fetish moment in a swing club.. In fact I know of someone that got asked to leave and barred for doing just that at a well known club. Difference being it wasnt on a fet night. Im not saying lock away and hide. I am saying that We go to clubs a lot and avoid nights we would feel it didnt suit us... I think some on here think that you should just be into everything. | |||
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"I think some on here think that you should just be into everything. " No, just that you don't make other people uncomfortable with your judgement. | |||
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"I think some on here think that you should just be into everything. No, just that you don't make other people uncomfortable with your judgement. "what judgement.. Personal preference is not a judgement.. Judgenment would be.. "ewww.. thats disgusting.. They shouldnt be allowed out in public"... personal preference is that it makes us feel uncomfortable so we avoid situations that would do so. Would someone who only likes one on ones go to a gg event for instance... | |||
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"Not going to the bi night is fine, but I genuinely believe that someone saying bi guys shouldn't play on 'regular' nights is implying that bisexuals aren't 'regular' too. For swingers, people who are supposed to be more open minded about sex and sexuality, that strikes me as pretty backwards." I didnt say that.. I said that we wouldnt go to bi nights where it was going to happen because it didnt make us feel comfortable when we went. And also stated that some of this comes from when I attended clubs for many many years as a female that ONLY played with guys in groups.. that I found that many women thought it okay to touch me. I also still find that women will touch without asking and therefore rightly or wrongly am on edge worrying about a guy touching mr.. BECAUSE it has happened to me as a female with same sex. | |||
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"I think there is a difference between specific nights and acceptance in a club's general night. We go to a club where bi play between men is on full show and we love the atmosphere there because it is so free and non judgemental. It is truly unique. We also go to some more general, we would like to say vanilla, type events - but we know that Mr cannot start grabbing peoples cocks there, sadly, as he would be thrown out. I totally agree with wasp, though, it should be challenged - whilst you know its going to be there on a specific night, it should also be accepted on a 'normal' night - why swept under the table. People who don't like it, look somewhere else and focus on your own shit - I personally am turned off by certain things, but as they are so mainstream, I could not say anything, and, because of who I am and how I think we should behave, I would not anyway - Mr and I have walked away from watching an 'exciting' orgy of a certain type of people - and I am one hundred per cent turned off at any scenario which revolves around a woman - but its so mainstream, it happens all the time. My point is, I think it is worrying, but indicative or society, that it can be voiced that men on men distasteful .... I am sure someone somewhere is desperate to say they find, say interracial distasteful, but they know they can't. We still have a long way to go to challenge homophobia . For the couple who posted they don't like to see it, this is not directed at you guys, just a point of discussion ..." okay... can i ask you a question since I think i would get a much more rational answer out of you then some others.... isn't that a bit like having your cake and eating it in respect to that you have nights that may be more catered to what you like... but you want to in effect spread that to other nights.... if i know i am going to feel uncomfortable on certain nights... be that a black white night... or a fet night for example... I wouldn't go... i wouldn't then say "well I am going to force on them what I like regardless and be damned" i think there is a serious lack of respect for other people who have made a decision to go on a specific night and not on others..... and its not from the side that I originally thought it would come from in this thread.... again it comes down to respecting the spirit of which the night is intended... for example... if a single guy wants to go to a club on a couples only night... and asks if a stranger wants to go with him so he can get his foot thru the doors.... I would say the same thing, its not really respecting the night as was intended... you want to kick the doors down with wasp... thats cool, and i respect that much... but i am betting you'll lose more people going to clubs than you'll gain most clubs have rooms where you can do whatever you want..... and club f in particular give private rooms the option of opening of closing curtains so you can be as exhibitionist.. or you can have people be as voyeuristic as they please.... i think there is a lot of biting of your nose to spite your face..... cool... win your battles, but pick em wisely | |||
"I also still find that women will touch without asking and therefore rightly or wrongly am on edge worrying about a guy touching mr.. BECAUSE it has happened to me as a female with same sex. " I believe we've been quite clear on this thread that anything non-consensual is wrong. Fabio, if people have a problem with bi play, they are the ones who should go to a private room. Their bullshit is not my problem. | |||
"I think there is a difference between specific nights and acceptance in a club's general night. We go to a club where bi play between men is on full show and we love the atmosphere there because it is so free and non judgemental. It is truly unique. We also go to some more general, we would like to say vanilla, type events - but we know that Mr cannot start grabbing peoples cocks there, sadly, as he would be thrown out. I totally agree with wasp, though, it should be challenged - whilst you know its going to be there on a specific night, it should also be accepted on a 'normal' night - why swept under the table. People who don't like it, look somewhere else and focus on your own shit - I personally am turned off by certain things, but as they are so mainstream, I could not say anything, and, because of who I am and how I think we should behave, I would not anyway - Mr and I have walked away from watching an 'exciting' orgy of a certain type of people - and I am one hundred per cent turned off at any scenario which revolves around a woman - but its so mainstream, it happens all the time. My point is, I think it is worrying, but indicative or society, that it can be voiced that men on men distasteful .... I am sure someone somewhere is desperate to say they find, say interracial distasteful, but they know they can't. We still have a long way to go to challenge homophobia . For the couple who posted they don't like to see it, this is not directed at you guys, just a point of discussion ... okay... can i ask you a question since I think i would get a much more rational answer out of you then some others.... isn't that a bit like having your cake and eating it in respect to that you have nights that may be more catered to what you like... but you want to in effect spread that to other nights.... if i know i am going to feel uncomfortable on certain nights... be that a black white night... or a fet night for example... I wouldn't go... i wouldn't then say "well I am going to force on them what I like regardless and be damned" i think there is a serious lack of respect for other people who have made a decision to go on a specific night and not on others..... and its not from the side that I originally thought it would come from in this thread.... again it comes down to respecting the spirit of which the night is intended... for example... if a single guy wants to go to a club on a couples only night... and asks if a stranger wants to go with him so he can get his foot thru the doors.... I would say the same thing, its not really respecting the night as was intended... you want to kick the doors down with wasp... thats cool, and i respect that much... but i am betting you'll lose more people going to clubs than you'll gain most clubs have rooms where you can do whatever you want..... and club f in particular give private rooms the option of opening of closing curtains so you can be as exhibitionist.. or you can have people be as voyeuristic as they please.... i think there is a lot of biting of your nose to spite your face..... cool... win your battles, but pick em wisely " a very well reasoned answer.. I think I shall bow out as it seems that being made to feel uncomfortable is okay unless its sexuality.
Like _abio we wouldnt go on bi nights because its not for us, we wouldnt go to a black mans fan club because its not for us. We would rarely go to a fetish event for play ( have staffed) not because its not for us but because we are to cheeky and naughty really.. and we understand that at many there is a protocol and we cant be doing with that in a play situation ( despite both having experience in fetish world ) | |||
"It's all double standards from clubs, why can 2 females play with each other on any night but if 2 guys want to play with each other or as part of a mmf or mfmf theyhave to do it on a bi night, sorry but these clubs do not organise bi nights they are organise nights that it is ok for guys to play with each other.... Makes me sick... Why can't people do what they like as long as everyone who is playing is happy ... " If only. There's always going to be something that offends someone. We're never offended - well almost, there is one thing we find distasteful but thankfully it's quite a rare occurrence and if we see it happening we just walk on by | |||
"It's all double standards from clubs, why can 2 females play with each other on any night but if 2 guys want to play with each other or as part of a mmf or mfmf theyhave to do it on a bi night, sorry but these clubs do not organise bi nights they are organise nights that it is ok for guys to play with each other.... Makes me sick... Why can't people do what they like as long as everyone who is playing is happy ... If only. There's always going to be something that offends someone. We're never offended - well almost, there is one thing we find distasteful but thankfully it's quite a rare occurrence and if we see it happening we just walk on by " this is actually what we do... but we thought we would give a honest answer and say it makes us feel uncomfortable. All we did on the bi day that we found ourselves at was play with people we knew already and chat to people. On the odd occassion we came across guy on guy, we just walked on by. it isnt like we jumped up and down going ewww... thats so disgusting.. same as if I come across people on a normal night doing something I dont like... or dont find sexy... I walk on by. | |||
"Not going to the bi night is fine, but I genuinely believe that someone saying bi guys shouldn't play on 'regular' nights is implying that bisexuals aren't 'regular' too. For swingers, people who are supposed to be more open minded about sex and sexuality, that strikes me as pretty backwards. I didnt say that.. I said that we wouldnt go to bi nights where it was going to happen because it didnt make us feel comfortable when we went. And also stated that some of this comes from when I attended clubs for many many years as a female that ONLY played with guys in groups.. that I found that many women thought it okay to touch me. I also still find that women will touch without asking and therefore rightly or wrongly am on edge worrying about a guy touching mr.. BECAUSE it has happened to me as a female with same sex. " If someone touches you without your permission then you should shout, move away from them, and report them to management. That shouldn't happen on a bisexual night or any other night. It's sexual assault and it should not be tolerated at all. | |||
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" Fabio, if people have a problem with bi play, they are the ones who should go to a private room. Their bullshit is not my problem." but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them | |||
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" Fabio, if people have a problem with bi play, they are the ones who should go to a private room. Their bullshit is not my problem. but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them " | |||
"I think there is a difference between specific nights and acceptance in a club's general night. We go to a club where bi play between men is on full show and we love the atmosphere there because it is so free and non judgemental. It is truly unique. We also go to some more general, we would like to say vanilla, type events - but we know that Mr cannot start grabbing peoples cocks there, sadly, as he would be thrown out. I totally agree with wasp, though, it should be challenged - whilst you know its going to be there on a specific night, it should also be accepted on a 'normal' night - why swept under the table. People who don't like it, look somewhere else and focus on your own shit - I personally am turned off by certain things, but as they are so mainstream, I could not say anything, and, because of who I am and how I think we should behave, I would not anyway - Mr and I have walked away from watching an 'exciting' orgy of a certain type of people - and I am one hundred per cent turned off at any scenario which revolves around a woman - but its so mainstream, it happens all the time. My point is, I think it is worrying, but indicative or society, that it can be voiced that men on men distasteful .... I am sure someone somewhere is desperate to say they find, say interracial distasteful, but they know they can't. We still have a long way to go to challenge homophobia . For the couple who posted they don't like to see it, this is not directed at you guys, just a point of discussion ... okay... can i ask you a question since I think i would get a much more rational answer out of you then some others.... isn't that a bit like having your cake and eating it in respect to that you have nights that may be more catered to what you like... but you want to in effect spread that to other nights.... if i know i am going to feel uncomfortable on certain nights... be that a black white night... or a fet night for example... I wouldn't go... i wouldn't then say "well I am going to force on them what I like regardless and be damned" i think there is a serious lack of respect for other people who have made a decision to go on a specific night and not on others..... and its not from the side that I originally thought it would come from in this thread.... again it comes down to respecting the spirit of which the night is intended... for example... if a single guy wants to go to a club on a couples only night... and asks if a stranger wants to go with him so he can get his foot thru the doors.... I would say the same thing, its not really respecting the night as was intended... you want to kick the doors down with wasp... thats cool, and i respect that much... but i am betting you'll lose more people going to clubs than you'll gain most clubs have rooms where you can do whatever you want..... and club f in particular give private rooms the option of opening of closing curtains so you can be as exhibitionist.. or you can have people be as voyeuristic as they please.... i think there is a lot of biting of your nose to spite your face..... cool... win your battles, but pick em wisely " Okay, first thanks for the compliment because I think I am quite rational about it - I come to this from a totally mainstream background, was meeting one to one for four years BUT am a total PC live and let live person, so am open to things Try to address your points like this - a couple, lets say white and middle class, the traditional/mainstream swingers, married to each other, of course, and the woman is bi but the man is not - dare I say of course, could go to any of these events - any kink event, any interracial event, etc - and often they do - so why can't I? or should I say why can't we? Why should it be they who only have the ability to go and do their thing everywhere? (yup I often tease single straight guys at a bi night who want to touch me, ask him first, and then when I say no, suck his cock first, or let him duck you then I may play with you, but I digress) This is the world we live in - mainstream majority do their thing everywhere and have no idea what it is like to not be a part of them - so let's question and challenge it - Mr gets a dirty look in Tesco last night for getting a bit close to a woman whilst he is loading the belt with our shopping - why? Because he is black, you bet she would not have done the same to me - white woman - so of course, I am the sort of person who calls her on it - he says, get used to it, such is the life of someone who has to accept that they don't have the same rights as others - be they black or bi (I don't think she realised he was bi, anyway, not in Tesco) I did warn you I am a PC gone mad - but I have mixed race children and see the effects on my own and other children on a daily basis - To be honest, I don't get any excitement from up their arse white couples doing vanilla ducking with strangers, too tame for me - but they have their cake and eat it, just like in every aspect of society - its true. I could be part of that world too, but choose not to be because its boring for me Does that make any sense PS - love you for the debate - because its never personal with you ... and my thoughts are all my own, when Mr comes home it will be - I thought you were decorating and doing your background reading for the course on your day off and 'oh shit, what have you written on the forums today' | |||
" a very well reasoned answer.. I think I shall bow out as it seems that being made to feel uncomfortable is okay unless its sexuality.
"I think that there needs to be an understanding that there is a difference between 'sexuality' and 'acts'. You should be free to express your sexuality (i.e. the gender of people you enjoy having sex with) at any time in your life. Including on any night of a swingers club. Same-sex behaviour shouldn't be frowned upon at any time. Ever. It's ok to not want to watch it - I personally don't enjoy watching women have sex with each other (even though I'm 90% lesbian). But you need to realise there that it's *you* with the problem, not the people who are being intimate. (And I recognise it's my problem with lesbians, and I just remove myself from that room when they kiss and fondle each other). Certain acts though are more suitable for certain nights of a club. For instance, I wouldn't cane my partner at a non-kink night. It wouldn't be appropriate. But what about when the two mix? For instance my male partner has been told that he shouldn't play with men at a fetish night at a club. Because it's not appropriate and it makes people uncomfortable. So what should he do? A 'vanilla' bisexual night isn't appropriate for heavy kink play. Where does he go? Does it play at the kink night or the bisexual night? Who should he prefer to offend? | |||
"why guys its the last place you can do wot you like with out been labeled just all get on and if you do not like wot you see move on no need to try and push it under the carpet be open mined when going to a club party most of the peps who get pissed off wityh are bi eney way but do not have the balls to say we all love to fems playing "I am bi but not into seeing fem on fem play at all -rather be in it or not at all | |||
" Fabio, if people have a problem with bi play, they are the ones who should go to a private room. Their bullshit is not my problem. but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them " So by your logic... 'non bi' nights aren't for bi behaviour. Lets prevent women kissing, fondling and fucking at them then? In case some straight people get offended? That means... No BBW lesbians. No interacial lesbians. No kink lesbians. No lesbian couples at couple night. Because it's not bi night - yeah? | |||
" Fabio, if people have a problem with bi play, they are the ones who should go to a private room. Their bullshit is not my problem. but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them So by your logic... 'non bi' nights aren't for bi behaviour. Lets prevent women kissing, fondling and fucking at them then? In case some straight people get offended? That means... No BBW lesbians. No interacial lesbians. No kink lesbians. No lesbian couples at couple night. Because it's not bi night - yeah?" Wasp - that is exactly why we don't go to the mainstream 'normal' nights at any club - because you can't deviate from accepted behaviour at the club and we keep asking ourselves - could we do this, does it meet the code - guess we may be debating on our own here - wish people realised we are not having a go, just interested .... | |||
" Fabio, if people have a problem with bi play, they are the ones who should go to a private room. Their bullshit is not my problem. but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them So by your logic... 'non bi' nights aren't for bi behaviour. Lets prevent women kissing, fondling and fucking at them then? In case some straight people get offended? That means... No BBW lesbians. No interacial lesbians. No kink lesbians. No lesbian couples at couple night. Because it's not bi night - yeah?" as i said before... you are not worth the 48hr ban i am likely to get if i engage with you..... but let me add one more thing to that lot.... then you can have at it/rip apart to your hearts content because you have an agenda and its like an attack dog with a toy.... because I am not going to reply to anything else you say in this thread... bi nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go bi/greedy girl/black and white/fet.... the only word that was interchangable in those statements.... I respect those who do go to those events... not for me | |||
" Fabio, if people have a problem with bi play, they are the ones who should go to a private room. Their bullshit is not my problem. but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them So by your logic... 'non bi' nights aren't for bi behaviour. Lets prevent women kissing, fondling and fucking at them then? In case some straight people get offended? That means... No BBW lesbians. No interacial lesbians. No kink lesbians. No lesbian couples at couple night. Because it's not bi night - yeah? as i said before... you are not worth the 48hr ban i am likely to get if i engage with you..... but let me add one more thing to that lot.... then you can have at it/rip apart to your hearts content because you have an agenda and its like an attack dog with a toy.... because I am not going to reply to anything else you say in this thread... bi nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go bi/greedy girl/black and white/fet.... the only word that was interchangable in those statements.... I respect those who do go to those events... not for me " You're not 'engaging' with me at all. I'm asking why it's ok for women to indulge in bisexual behaviour at a 'normal' night, but not men? Well, I do have a pretty good idea academically, a deep rooting in patriarchal society where women's bodies are viewed as entertainment and women's sexuality isn't taken seriously. But you know. Horses for courses. | |||
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"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???"Same for 2 females then ??? Same old double standards .... Since when was a normal club night classed as a "straight" night .... | |||
"Could i play devil's advocate if on a normal night and opportunity for male bi play then always the option of a closed room, everybody happy ???
Same for 2 females then ??? Same old double standards .... Since when was a normal club night classed as a "straight" night .... "This
I just don't get this attitude that's it's ok for girls and not for boys.
Perhaps we should all have sex in private rooms. No play. Not even kissing, outside of a room in case it affects someone else's mojo.
I thought clubs were for sexually liberated people. Chams advertises itself as a club for straight and bisexual people to meet and play.
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" I'm asking why it's ok for women to indulge in bisexual behaviour at a 'normal' night, but not men? Well, I do have a pretty good idea academically, a deep rooting in patriarchal society where women's bodies are viewed as entertainment and women's sexuality isn't taken seriously. But you know. Horses for courses." Couldn't agree more. We've been going to Chams for four years and in that time, have only visited three times on a non Bi night. It just didn't work for us as it wasn't the same level of open-ness which we feel encompasses the lifestyle of swinging | |||
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" I just don't get this attitude that's it's ok for girls and not for boys. Perhaps we should all have sex in private rooms. No play. Not even kissing, outside of a room in case it affects someone else's mojo. I thought clubs were for sexually liberated people. Chams advertises itself as a club for straight and bisexual people to meet and play. " | |||
" as i said before... you are not worth the 48hr ban i am likely to get if i engage with you..... but let me add one more thing to that lot.... then you can have at it/rip apart to your hearts content because you have an agenda and its like an attack dog with a toy.... because I am not going to reply to anything else you say in this thread... bi nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go bi/greedy girl/black and white/fet.... the only word that was interchangable in those statements.... I respect those who do go to those events... not for me " Let me just ask you one thing Fabio. You say that bisexual men should do it behind closed doors on anything but a bi night, because then they are respecting the spirit of the night. You are a black man - assuming that's you in your avatar. How would you feel if someone said at a 'normal' night at a swingers club that you shouldn't play out in the open because you're black. That you should play behind closed doors because you're black. That really, you should only go to the interracial nights because you're black, and people might not want to see black people having sex. Would you just retreat to the private rooms and the interracial night? Or would you actually say 'that's not cool'? | |||
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" but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them " Greedy girl nights... I've never seen a greedy girl told to stop playing in an open room on a non-greedy girl night. Black/White nights... I've never seen a black man/woman told to stop playing in an open room on a non black/white night. Fet Nights... I've only seen mild fetish on non-Fet nights but no one told them to stop playing in an open room. Bi nights... I've never seen 2 women told to stop playing in an open room on a non-bi night. 2 men however...? The fact that male bisexuality is the only 'organised' event that has to stay strictly to that organised event speaks volumes about mainstream attitude to male bisexuality and maybe it's time to address that within a so-called sexually liberated group. | |||
" The fact that male bisexuality is the only 'organised' event that has to stay strictly to that organised event speaks volumes about mainstream attitude to male bisexuality and maybe it's time to address that within a so-called sexually liberated group." | |||
" but i am guessing they are not the ones going on Bi nights..... which is what i was saying... there should be a certain amount of respect for the spirit in which the night was intended..... Greedy Girl nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Black/White nights aren't for me... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go Fet nights aren't for me.... I have some inclination of what to expect... I decided not to go (and i know that swinging type play is seriously frowed upon at some events) I respect that people may like those events..... but I am not to one wishing to kick down doors to change them Greedy girl nights... I've never seen a greedy girl told to stop playing in an open room on a non-greedy girl night. Black/White nights... I've never seen a black man/woman told to stop playing in an open room on a non black/white night. Fet Nights... I've only seen mild fetish on non-Fet nights but no one told them to stop playing in an open room. Bi nights... I've never seen 2 women told to stop playing in an open room on a non-bi night. 2 men however...? The fact that male bisexuality is the only 'organised' event that has to stay strictly to that organised event speaks volumes about mainstream attitude to male bisexuality and maybe it's time to address that within a so-called sexually liberated group." Yes, yes, yes, thanks for that .... I love to see male on male action, full on, but only ever seen it at one club -- plus when we have meets with a bi guy, yum | |||
" Greedy girl nights... I've never seen a greedy girl told to stop playing in an open room on a non-greedy girl night. Black/White nights... I've never seen a black man/woman told to stop playing in an open room on a non black/white night. Fet Nights... I've only seen mild fetish on non-Fet nights but no one told them to stop playing in an open room. Bi nights... I've never seen 2 women told to stop playing in an open room on a non-bi night. 2 men however...? The fact that male bisexuality is the only 'organised' event that has to stay strictly to that organised event speaks volumes about mainstream attitude to male bisexuality and maybe it's time to address that within a so-called sexually liberated group." Ive never seen a guy told to stop playing with a guy when it has happened on a none "bi guy" night.. However I have overheard people commenting about the slut taking all the cock in the round room. I have seen and heard people comment about interacial ( yes it was dealt with) I have known couples be banned from clubs for doing their kink thing in a normal night at a club ( even though majority of clubs now have dungeon or fet areas) So it makes sense although maybe they should rename nights to "bi Guys " so that way there is no confusion. we have seen guys with guys at none "bi" events. We just walk on by ( thought I would make sure the song stayed in there a bit more) So if all clubs started to allow guy on guy as they do on bi nights.. we would go to "straight" nights and I would not bother playing with women as I can take it or leave it as I would only play with a woman in a group situation x | |||
" Ive never seen a guy told to stop playing with a guy when it has happened on a none "bi guy" night.. " Unfortunately it has happened to us a fair few times - both at kink and vanilla events. But I've never been told to stop playing with a woman. | |||
" Greedy girl nights... I've never seen a greedy girl told to stop playing in an open room on a non-greedy girl night. Black/White nights... I've never seen a black man/woman told to stop playing in an open room on a non black/white night. Fet Nights... I've only seen mild fetish on non-Fet nights but no one told them to stop playing in an open room. Bi nights... I've never seen 2 women told to stop playing in an open room on a non-bi night. 2 men however...? The fact that male bisexuality is the only 'organised' event that has to stay strictly to that organised event speaks volumes about mainstream attitude to male bisexuality and maybe it's time to address that within a so-called sexually liberated group. Ive never seen a guy told to stop playing with a guy when it has happened on a none "bi guy" night.. However I have overheard people commenting about the slut taking all the cock in the round room. I have seen and heard people comment about interacial ( yes it was dealt with) I have known couples be banned from clubs for doing their kink thing in a normal night at a club ( even though majority of clubs now have dungeon or fet areas) So it makes sense although maybe they should rename nights to "bi Guys " so that way there is no confusion. we have seen guys with guys at none "bi" events. We just walk on by ( thought I would make sure the song stayed in there a bit more) So if all clubs started to allow guy on guy as they do on bi nights.. we would go to "straight" nights and I would not bother playing with women as I can take it or leave it as I would only play with a woman in a group situation x" Not sure if bi guys would work as the women may feel they are out of place - the club we go to, there are a lot of gay guys too, so Mr has a choice/chance to play with a bi guy or a gay guy and its so much better - straight guys looking for women there have plenty, plenty of options elsewhere, but again saying bi guys segregates them ... and we have had the experience of Mr being frowned upon on bi nights at vanilla clubs. Indeed, we were all set to go to a club and there was a thread on here about a bunch of bi people going, as I was perusing the profiles of those going, I came across one of the single women and her profile said 'no blacks' hmm, I start thinking, so, we are in a room, all having fun, and she notices Mr is involved - what would or could happen? How can I put someone I love in a situation like that, without getting very upset and angry - so we did not go, we could not go because I am not going to have my evening spoiled by someone like that. | |||
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"That must have been quite an upsetting moment when realisation dawns? We know exactly what you mean though and no-one wants to put their loved one through that" Hi waves lol xx | |||
" Greedy girl nights... I've never seen a greedy girl told to stop playing in an open room on a non-greedy girl night. Black/White nights... I've never seen a black man/woman told to stop playing in an open room on a non black/white night. Fet Nights... I've only seen mild fetish on non-Fet nights but no one told them to stop playing in an open room. Bi nights... I've never seen 2 women told to stop playing in an open room on a non-bi night. 2 men however...? The fact that male bisexuality is the only 'organised' event that has to stay strictly to that organised event speaks volumes about mainstream attitude to male bisexuality and maybe it's time to address that within a so-called sexually liberated group. Ive never seen a guy told to stop playing with a guy when it has happened on a none "bi guy" night.. However I have overheard people commenting about the slut taking all the cock in the round room. I have seen and heard people comment about interacial ( yes it was dealt with) I have known couples be banned from clubs for doing their kink thing in a normal night at a club ( even though majority of clubs now have dungeon or fet areas) So it makes sense although maybe they should rename nights to "bi Guys " so that way there is no confusion. we have seen guys with guys at none "bi" events. We just walk on by ( thought I would make sure the song stayed in there a bit more) So if all clubs started to allow guy on guy as they do on bi nights.. we would go to "straight" nights and I would not bother playing with women as I can take it or leave it as I would only play with a woman in a group situation x Not sure if bi guys would work as the women may feel they are out of place - the club we go to, there are a lot of gay guys too, so Mr has a choice/chance to play with a bi guy or a gay guy and its so much better - straight guys looking for women there have plenty, plenty of options elsewhere, but again saying bi guys segregates them ... and we have had the experience of Mr being frowned upon on bi nights at vanilla clubs. Indeed, we were all set to go to a club and there was a thread on here about a bunch of bi people going, as I was perusing the profiles of those going, I came across one of the single women and her profile said 'no blacks' hmm, I start thinking, so, we are in a room, all having fun, and she notices Mr is involved - what would or could happen? How can I put someone I love in a situation like that, without getting very upset and angry - so we did not go, we could not go because I am not going to have my evening spoiled by someone like that. " Completely off topic here, but I've read this whole thread and have to say I admire your openness and inclusiveness and frequently found myself agreeing with your thoughts. T x | |||
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"My. What a big repost you have "Oh lol, didn't even realise! My bad haha x | |||
"My. What a big repost you have
Oh lol, didn't even realise! My bad haha x"It's great when you get into a club and suddenly realise how big yours really is, innit? Lol | |||
"My. What a big repost you have
Oh lol, didn't even realise! My bad haha x
It's great when you get into a club and suddenly realise how big yours really is, innit? Lol "I wouldn't know lol | |||
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"That must have been quite an upsetting moment when realisation dawns? We know exactly what you mean though and no-one wants to put their loved one through that Hi waves lol xx"Hello back x | |||
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