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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I love clubs, the sexiness, the openness the excitement. I have swung as a couple and a single and the couple nights are always so much more relaxed, would ladies happily be escorted with a single man ( no agenda ) or is it okay as ladies can attend anyway, please discuss...

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By *oodnitegirlWoman  over a year ago

Yorkshire

There was a thread on this the other day. Some do (I do but don't want him expecting just as we are company he is Deffo getting to play with me) some see it as single guys just wanting to get in cheap or on no single guys night

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London

I Think women are unlikely to hook up with a guy they don't know to go to a club. Most would see that as what it probably is : a means for the guy to get into a couples night with a larger proportion of women there. Obviously it's different if you know the guy already.

Personally we don't like couples only nights. Far too much chat and horrendous logistics of finding two couples where everyone likes each other

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

from reading many posts on the subject, I get the feeling many women would prefer to go with either a couple or another female friend as a man would expect sex

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I guess you are right its about knowing the person you are visiting with and being confident they are not trying to get a freebie (or more!)

And as for the couple dynamic , yes that can be tricky but worth it when you find that match!

It shouldn't be so complicated

But surely there are single women who would live to try clubs with knowledge they are going to be looked after...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I guess you are right its about knowing the person you are visiting with and being confident they are not trying to get a freebie (or more!)

And as for the couple dynamic , yes that can be tricky but worth it when you find that match!

It shouldn't be so complicated

But surely there are single women who would live to try clubs with knowledge they are going to be looked after..."

i can see what youre saying...but if they don't know you well already, then they can't really have any expectation that they'll be 'looked after' surely?..seen posts on here before from women going to clubs and being completely ignored,or left stranded there once their 'escort' has got in for a cheaper price than they would have done alone..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

It is those few who ruin it for the many!! It would appear that ladies would prefer to go together and not necessarily trust a guy not to want more, we let ourselves down

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By *ohohoWoman  over a year ago

Up North

I have attended clubs with single guys as a couple for several reasons.

- knowledge that at least I would know one person there.

- first time club experience for the guy.

- convienent place to meet.

However it does have its down sides.

- if you arrive as a couple you must leave as a couple.

- expectations that I would play with them and just them alone.

- being left alone whilst they spent quite a long time with others.

I found it better to attend clubs in the end either alone or with someone you know really well. The staff at clubs are normally very good at looking after single women so I never felt I needed to be looked after.

OP why do you want to attend with a woman rather than by yourself?

Nerves? Cost?

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By *dores blackmenWoman  over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

In 2013 I was taken to a club by a guy I met a few times locally,I was a pawn for him to meet other couples as he left me at the club,went off home without me as I dared to have a ffmm without him lol

After that day I never looked back.I got in my car and was off to many clubs and parties by myself,occasionally with a female friend

I am going to Jaydee's bbw event this friday,never been there before,got a hotel as along way,I'm happy to go by meself to pastures new,I like to be free to play with who I like

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I have attended clubs with single guys as a couple for several reasons.

- knowledge that at least I would know one person there.

- first time club experience for the guy.

- convienent place to meet.

No, Nerves and cost not an issue.

I enjoy the environment and the female interaction, I don't like the view that a lot of single males are after the same thing and have always enjoyed couple nights as they feel more relaxed and you dont get beaten in a single male bullrush if a couple go in a room and leave the door open a la single male nights

However it does have its down sides.

- if you arrive as a couple you must leave as a couple.

- expectations that I would play with them and just them alone.

- being left alone whilst they spent quite a long time with others.

I found it better to attend clubs in the end either alone or with someone you know really well. The staff at clubs are normally very good at looking after single women so I never felt I needed to be looked after.

OP why do you want to attend with a woman rather than by yourself?

Nerves? Cost?

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

And balls just posted right in the middle of your thread, still getting used to this forum lark !!!

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By *litterbabeWoman  over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I let someone escort me platonically to a club recently. I have known him for ages as friends and he was too shy to go alone.

It was a nightmare, for all the reasons covered in this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I love clubs, the sexiness, the openness the excitement. I have swung as a couple and a single and the couple nights are always so much more relaxed, would ladies happily be escorted with a single man ( no agenda ) or is it okay as ladies can attend anyway, please discuss... "

No. I don't need an 'escort', I am perfectly capable of leaving the house alone.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield

Taking a lady who you don't already know very well doesn't seem right to me.

1st, the woman isn't actually gaining anything, she just has a random guy with her, she wouldn't gain much and could be a hindrance to her.

2nd she would naturally expect to play with whoever she wants, including on her own with couples. That would leave you as a single man on a couples night.

3rd it smacks of a single guy trying to get in on couples night. That's one thing if you are a true fb couple, but not as just 'accompanying' a woman.

I don't think it's going to fly tbh.

MrB

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Oh booooooo, I was hoping to cheer myself up on a Monday morning but would appear my escorting days will be short lived, doomed!!

I guess it's about the individual, ladies have been let down and are rightly reluctant, why are some people so complicated and some men d**ks

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I love clubs, the sexiness, the openness the excitement. I have swung as a couple and a single and the couple nights are always so much more relaxed, would ladies happily be escorted with a single man ( no agenda ) or is it okay as ladies can attend anyway, please discuss...

No. I don't need an 'escort', I am perfectly capable of leaving the house alone."

Yes was looking for another descriptor but was considering escort in the gentlemenly way !

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester

It's all relative depends on the Man and the Woman. A lot of cynical women who have been butt hurt, or people suspicious of a guys agenda. Company is nice you know, I have taken ladies to clubs and had great times you just need communication beforehand.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It's all relative depends on the Man and the Woman. A lot of cynical women who have been butt hurt, or people suspicious of a guys agenda. Company is nice you know, I have taken ladies to clubs and had great times you just need communication beforehand. "

It's that predictive text again "butt hurt" you're not supporting my thread here

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"It's all relative depends on the Man and the Woman. A lot of cynical women who have been butt hurt, or people suspicious of a guys agenda. Company is nice you know, I have taken ladies to clubs and had great times you just need communication beforehand.

It's that predictive text again "butt hurt" you're not supporting my thread here "

no it's an actual saying look it up and used in the right context, I am in support.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It's all relative depends on the Man and the Woman. A lot of cynical women who have been butt hurt, or people suspicious of a guys agenda. Company is nice you know, I have taken ladies to clubs and had great times you just need communication beforehand.

It's that predictive text again "butt hurt" you're not supporting my thread here no it's an actual saying look it up and used in the right context, I am in support."

Every day is a school day ty rock

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To be honest I prefer going on my own plenty of people to chat to, to make me feel good and staff always looks out for me so always totally safe for single ladies talking about chams here x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Yes Chams is one of the finer ones but it was also where my couple experiences fell off as a single male tried to push my gf leg apart with his foot against hers, not good

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By *MFC PartiesWoman  over a year ago

Here, There & Everywhere

Read this thread with interest as i often have this conversation with potential guests

In my opinion, if someone feels that they need a 'chaperone' to attend one of our parties, then i suggest they are possibly not ready to join us

We - and every swinging venue - have experienced staff who will happily ensure that EVERY guest feels safe and comfortable

If necessary, we can even introduce them to other guests but tbh we find that our 'regulars' are pretty damn good at welcoming newbies into the fold

Custom made couples are accepted at some venues - we allow them - but we do have stipulations - you arrive together, you leave together

But i would ALWAYS advise anyone who considers 'coupling up' to look at the reasons for doing so

I also question just how well they know this person and their behaviour because if they disrespect club etiquette do they really want to be associated with them as chances are they will be judged too

Coupling up can be more hassle than its worth and i know SO MANY single ladies and single guys that have tried it and vowed NEVER to do it again!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

What a great post thanks and "chaperone" is such a better terminology, need to get my thesaurus out next time!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have taken a few....never expected to play just because we went together and did it for the company as opposed to cheap entry...always go out with the intention of just having a good night and anything else is a bonus

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


"I have attended clubs with single guys as a couple for several reasons.

- knowledge that at least I would know one person there.

- first time club experience for the guy.

- convienent place to meet.

However it does have its down sides.

- if you arrive as a couple you must leave as a couple.

- expectations that I would play with them and just them alone.

- being left alone whilst they spent quite a long time with others.

I found it better to attend clubs in the end either alone or with someone you know really well. The staff at clubs are normally very good at looking after single women so I never felt I needed to be looked after.

OP why do you want to attend with a woman rather than by yourself?

Nerves? Cost?

"

I've had a few women ask me to escort them to a club but I mostly decline. I prefer to go alone and I'm careful with which cart I attach my horse to as reputation is currency in this lifestyle.

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London

I go to clubs on my own, I don't need escorting, I'm a grown up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Think you would be better going on a night where single guys are allowed and there are couples who express a desire to play with single guys... It would be quite noticeable if you attended with a women purely to play with other people, especially if you did not play with her! Not welcomed on genuine 'couples only' nights and a lot of people would not be happy!

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By *MFC PartiesWoman  over a year ago

Here, There & Everywhere


" .... I prefer to go alone and I'm careful with which cart I attach my horse to as reputation is currency in this lifestyle. "

Love this phrase - and you just KNOW i'm gonna steal it!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Think you would be better going on a night where single guys are allowed and there are couples who express a desire to play with single guys... It would be quite noticeable if you attended with a women purely to play with other people, especially if you did not play with her! Not welcomed on genuine 'couples only' nights and a lot of people would not be happy! "

Yeah, this too.

Occasionally I've got the feeling that my partner and I aren't welcome at some couples nights because we don't live together and we also have other partners - which means we're not a 'genuine' couple.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman  over a year ago
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My Own Little World

Nope.

I wouldn't get I a car and drive miles to a club with a guy I don't know. And what guarantee would I have that I would get a ride back home, not dumped in a club, miles from home in the middle of the night with no way back, after he had got in on the cheap and emptied his balls.

Safety first

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If a man doesn't have the balls to walk into a club alone then he isn't much of a man...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman  over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

I only attend as a couple with someone if I have an existing and ongoing friendship with them. Anything else is often just a ticket. Plus I prefer guys with the balls to go alone, so many can't or won't!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thanks softie, I think the relationship is key which leads to the trust and then the further enjoyment of the lifestyle, it is apparent that a number of ladies have been let down but also that clubs support them, I must admit every club I have visited as a single I have always been made to feel very welcome

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman  over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"Thanks softie, I think the relationship is key which leads to the trust and then the further enjoyment of the lifestyle, it is apparent that a number of ladies have been let down but also that clubs support them, I must admit every club I have visited as a single I have always been made to feel very welcome "

If guys understood that it's the relationship comes first if you want repeat club visits as a couple many more would have these opportunities. They miss it though I think. I get first messages asking to be a club buddy without even finding out anything about me or if we get on. Very strange

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By *ohohoWoman  over a year ago

Up North


"

I've had a few women ask me to escort them to a club but I mostly decline. I prefer to go alone and I'm careful with which cart I attach my horse to as reputation is currency in this lifestyle. "

You are so right!

The last single guy I went to a club with apparently broke into some lockers whilst I was busy. They caught him on camera. I only found out much later by someone who worked at the club. Luckily I wasn't tarred with the same brush. But it could have easily meant a ban for me as well.

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton

I do like to be chaperoned but not just by anybody but I'm fine going to a club on my own if I know there will be people I know in there.

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman  over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!"

The problem is guys position it as one thing but often is the other

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield

Would they have to join the club as a couple membership? Not sure about rules for two singles going in as a 'couple'?

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By *ohohoWoman  over a year ago

Up North


"Would they have to join the club as a couple membership? Not sure about rules for two singles going in as a 'couple'?"

Not every club needs couples to join as a member.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"Would they have to join the club as a couple membership? Not sure about rules for two singles going in as a 'couple'?

Not every club needs couples to join as a member. "

True. We've been to one and just entered as non-members (doh !)

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple  over a year ago

Edinburgh.

Nothing worse than a single guy at a couples night. They are without exception a pain in the ass. If they are sleekit enough to get in on a woman's coat tails they will be a pest in the club.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I only go to clubs with guys I know well. I prefer to attend solo or with some girlfriends.

My reason for not wanting to go to a club with a fella I don't know well is about reputation - if the guy disappears off and acts like an idiot (wanky behaviour, following, gets d*unk and lairy, whatever really) that will impact on my reputation. I don't want to compromise my relationship with the club owners or staffjust because the guy is being a dick.

I like confident guys who will say "see you at the club" and actually turn up - not the endless stream of guys that want handholding.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I only go to clubs with guys I know well. I prefer to attend solo or with some girlfriends.

My reason for not wanting to go to a club with a fella I don't know well is about reputation - if the guy disappears off and acts like an idiot (wanky behaviour, following, gets d*unk and lairy, whatever really) that will impact on my reputation. I don't want to compromise my relationship with the club owners or staffjust because the guy is being a dick.

I like confident guys who will say "see you at the club" and actually turn up - not the endless stream of guys that want handholding. "

Abso-fucking-lutely

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


"I only go to clubs with guys I know well. I prefer to attend solo or with some girlfriends.

My reason for not wanting to go to a club with a fella I don't know well is about reputation - if the guy disappears off and acts like an idiot (wanky behaviour, following, gets d*unk and lairy, whatever really) that will impact on my reputation. I don't want to compromise my relationship with the club owners or staffjust because the guy is being a dick.

I like confident guys who will say "see you at the club" and actually turn up - not the endless stream of guys that want handholding. "

QFT!

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


" .... I prefer to go alone and I'm careful with which cart I attach my horse to as reputation is currency in this lifestyle.

Love this phrase - and you just KNOW i'm gonna steal it!! "

Or you could do the decent thing and pay the...er...royalties...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I Think women are unlikely to hook up with a guy they don't know to go to a club. Most would see that as what it probably is : a means for the guy to get into a couples night with a larger proportion of women there. Obviously it's different if you know the guy already.

Personally we don't like couples only nights. Far too much chat and horrendous logistics of finding two couples where everyone likes each other "

plenty of women do. When I first meet Mr.. he was bringing different women every week to club's and rarely played. In fact one week he escorted 3.. I was working at the club at the time..

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By *ohohoWoman  over a year ago

Up North


"Nothing worse than a single guy at a couples night. They are without exception a pain in the ass. If they are sleekit enough to get in on a woman's coat tails they will be a pest in the club. "

To be fair to single guys though I have always found the men who are part of a couple worse.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"Nothing worse than a single guy at a couples night. They are without exception a pain in the ass. If they are sleekit enough to get in on a woman's coat tails they will be a pest in the club. "
I wonder which part of the couple posted this

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London


"Nothing worse than a single guy at a couples night. They are without exception a pain in the ass. If they are sleekit enough to get in on a woman's coat tails they will be a pest in the club. I wonder which part of the couple posted this "

I only meet single men at clubs.

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London


"Nothing worse than a single guy at a couples night. They are without exception a pain in the ass. If they are sleekit enough to get in on a woman's coat tails they will be a pest in the club. I wonder which part of the couple posted this

I only meet single men at clubs. "

Ooops, that should read, at clubs, I only meet single men.

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple  over a year ago

Edinburgh.


"Nothing worse than a single guy at a couples night. They are without exception a pain in the ass. If they are sleekit enough to get in on a woman's coat tails they will be a pest in the club. I wonder which part of the couple posted this "

We are parts. How nice. just what we have seen.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I guess you are right its about knowing the person you are visiting with and being confident they are not trying to get a freebie (or more!)

And as for the couple dynamic , yes that can be tricky but worth it when you find that match!

It shouldn't be so complicated

But surely there are single women who would live to try clubs with knowledge they are going to be looked after..."

I have been attending clubs as a single lady regularly over the past few years when my husband is not able to come out ...... the management of the clubs look after us ladies very well, I have never felt the need for an escort.....Single blokes should pay their entrance fee and enjoy the fun! Xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have always thought that clubs should try single nights for a change x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!"

I suppose the real question is - is it the women who need chaperoning, or is it you?

Because I see no reason why you'd want to go to a club with a stranger, unless you didn't have the confidence to go on your own.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

More than comfortable enough going on my own and based on comments on my thread escorting a lady would not be needed or wanted, either my the female population or the couple community. Going to start a simpler thread tomorrow of "how to solve 3rd world debt"

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple  over a year ago

Edinburgh.


"More than comfortable enough going on my own and based on comments on my thread escorting a lady would not be needed or wanted, either my the female population or the couple community. Going to start a simpler thread tomorrow of "how to solve 3rd world debt" "
thing is if you are a decent guy you won't see the issue with it. You just have to go in and see a plonker like the ones we described in action and you will get why it's a no no. As is typical, people spoil what should be cool.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Nail on head, my original post was about the fact the vibe on couples night is more enjoyable, will settle on a good local club, cupids or armour and build up my friendships

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You got to be careful cowboy, play your cards wrong and you are one lady friend down. They are certainly more jealous and possessive than they let on

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You got to be careful cowboy, play your cards wrong and you are one lady friend down. They are certainly more jealous and possessive than they let on "

Love it, never been called cowboy before could be my new handle!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Done this a few times....but only with/for ladies I already knew/had met/friends.

It just sounds odd/needy for it to be done with a stranger.

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By *imon and saffyCouple  over a year ago

southampton

As others have said it's not a good idea.

If you were two singles who were going to play as a couple then that's fine. If not then issues start, it's a couples night because couples want to play with couples, a single man wanting to play on his own might be accepted by some but is likely to annoy loads of others.

Find a single woman that wants to play as a couple and you've cracked it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nail on head, my original post was about the fact the vibe on couples night is more enjoyable, will settle on a good local club, cupids or armour and build up my friendships"

You're not a couple - therefore you wouldn't be welcome at a couples night.

If all the couples at a couples night were just men chaperoning women, then it would just be a singles night.

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


"Done this a few times....but only with/for ladies I already knew/had met/friends.

It just sounds odd/needy for it to be done with a stranger."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Read this thread with interest as i often have this conversation with potential guests

In my opinion, if someone feels that they need a 'chaperone' to attend one of our parties, then i suggest they are possibly not ready to join us

We - and every swinging venue - have experienced staff who will happily ensure that EVERY guest feels safe and comfortable

If necessary, we can even introduce them to other guests but tbh we find that our 'regulars' are pretty damn good at welcoming newbies into the fold

Custom made couples are accepted at some venues - we allow them - but we do have stipulations - you arrive together, you leave together

But i would ALWAYS advise anyone who considers 'coupling up' to look at the reasons for doing so

I also question just how well they know this person and their behaviour because if they disrespect club etiquette do they really want to be associated with them as chances are they will be judged too

Coupling up can be more hassle than its worth and i know SO MANY single ladies and single guys that have tried it and vowed NEVER to do it again!

"

Interesting thread and I enjoyed reading this post because 'regulars' at BMFC have been trying to welcome me into the community for years

Apparently I will fit in

Heard only good things about BMFC from my friends, but I am a shy newbie so not been yet

@ all the single men:

I will come back in here later and share my opinions/experience on this topic because some things need to be said...

Don't panic guys I got your back!

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By *MFC PartiesWoman  over a year ago

Here, There & Everywhere


"

Interesting thread and I enjoyed reading this post because 'regulars' at BMFC have been trying to welcome me into the community for years

Apparently I will fit in

Heard only good things about BMFC from my friends, but I am a shy newbie so not been yet

@ all the single men:

I will come back in here later and share my opinions/experience on this topic because some things need to be said...

Don't panic guys I got your back!"

I KNOW that you will fit in too, but as we discussed at great length my procedures are in place because they work ...

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By *eady and Willing 9Man  over a year ago

Wherever the party is @


"I Think women are unlikely to hook up with a guy they don't know to go to a club. Most would see that as what it probably is : a means for the guy to get into a couples night with a larger proportion of women there. Obviously it's different if you know the guy already.

Personally we don't like couples only nights. Far too much chat and horrendous logistics of finding two couples where everyone likes each other "

Here here . It's a lot harder to please 4 people as opposed to only 2.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Interesting thread and I enjoyed reading this post because 'regulars' at BMFC have been trying to welcome me into the community for years

Apparently I will fit in

Heard only good things about BMFC from my friends, but I am a shy newbie so not been yet

@ all the single men:

I will come back in here later and share my opinions/experience on this topic because some things need to be said...

Don't panic guys I got your back!

I KNOW that you will fit in too, but as we discussed at great length my procedures are in place because they work ...

"

Ha ha you remember our conversations Helen! That was a long time ago

I knew from our phone call I belong at BMFC because your events all over the UK produce maximum pleasure for compatible people. Your procedures do work, but...

I am stubborn as fuck and this usually helps me in sticky situations and my procedures work for me. I have to admit in this situation being stubborn is my downfall and my friends remind me all the time.

Or...

What if I already been to BMFC under the radar? Snuck in through the back door

Only messing! I have not been, but one day the temptation will get the better of me

Right, going to start a new post back on the topic of this thread because it is important.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one "

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Here it goes...

I am single and have been since I joined Fab.

Single men:

Yes we already know some guys may have hidden motives, agenda, can be jealous and possessive. They can also be rude, abusive and numpties at times! This has been mentioned a million times. I admit have made minor errors in the past, which could have been avoided. I am a quick learner so don't repeat silly mistakes.

However...

I have been lucky enough to travel all around UK and go to some of the most well known clubs as a single and with female friends. Never had a negative experience and always been fun for everyone involved.

I have been to clubs with women who never met me before. Not like met them in the club... literally met them on the day and off we went to club together. Cheeky I know I love it

Here is an example:

Chatting to a woman on here 2 years ago... she said a few guys taken her to clubs and she did not enjoy it at all because they would get jelous when she got attention from other men. She had enough... so she said no matter what I say it will be too good to be true.

But somehow she trusted me and I explained the dynamics to her. We are not a couple nor do I expect anything in return. I took her on a Friday night where single men are allowed (yes I am brave!!) Everything I told her about the dynamics between us remained the same once we went into the club. She had no restrictions because I don't like restrictions on me...

She was soo happy that night we continued to go to clubs together when we could. Both as singles, but have fun bouncing off of each other.

After the 5th/6th club together I had arranged to attend a club with another female friend... she found out and switched! Just random, saying 'Why are you going to club without me' Eek

So those conversations progressed and was not fun anymore. Friendship had ended.

Fastforward 2 years similar situations have occured where it all starts great then the women prehaps not intentionally alter the dynamics of friendship where they can have fun, but I had restrictions on me

So guys...

I totally understand having been through certain situations that women are just as bad. In fact soo many women tell me and admit they are a lot worse when it comes to being jealous and possessive. It is what it is and we are all humans with emotions.

In reality women agree, but on Fab sometimes it comes across as men are the issue most of the time. That is not true and accurate

It is easy to say in general terms men or women this and that... what is right or wrong. It comes down to how compatible the single individuals are and honest communication is the key for long lasting friendships.

I know soo many singles who come together and have amazing time at clubs. Don't be put off... just be sensible, take safety measures and no always means no.

I agree with the policy:

'If you come together you leave together'

This protects men and women. The amount of times I been in a club and guys have told me they came with a woman and she ditched him as soon as they got in club she found another guy or couple and went off!

Over the years soo many women have said to me oh I need a lift to a club and can you pay the entrance fee and buy the drinks... er no! Guys there are always tell tell signs if a woman is going to use you. I know the temptation is difficult to resist, she looks hot and you just want to stand next to her for 5 seconds, but please don't put yourself in that position.

It has been an awesome Fab rollercoaster soo far and I have enjoyed learning soo much on my journey. I look forward to making many more friends with substance.

If you managed to read this whole post... bloody hell you love reading

Have fun and be safe everyone!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Great balanced post Adam, I started to get bored of my own thread as I was being told I was strange to start this discussion and have no confidence to go to a club, both incorrect !

I also saw a meet in the North today by a lady who wanted to be escorted to cupids, was so tempted to offer to show how enjoyable it could be but that was a game I didnt want to play as it didn't feel right.

I will continue with my journey of the lifestyle and I am sure I will meet positive and negative people of all different sex, background, etc, etc.

I am just happy I don't live in banbury!

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"Great balanced post Adam, I started to get bored of my own thread as I was being told I was strange to start this discussion and have no confidence to go to a club, both incorrect !

I also saw a meet in the North today by a lady who wanted to be escorted to cupids, was so tempted to offer to show how enjoyable it could be but that was a game I didnt want to play as it didn't feel right.

I will continue with my journey of the lifestyle and I am sure I will meet positive and negative people of all different sex, background, etc, etc.

I am just happy I don't live in banbury!"

Don't listen to the majority of people on the forum. Cynical armchair swingers a lot of them and Militant feminists as well.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

"

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Its not cynicism if its true.

I have been to clubs with men and woman, and in a huge group of people. I have experienced both the man ditching me once we're through the door, and the man who clung to me all night, audibly growling if anyone dared to venture near. I have also experienced men who have been excellent fun, and so I visited clubs with them again.

However, I find it easier and more relaxing to go to clubs with women as there is no chance of there being any misunderstandings, or groups where we can all have a laugh, but nip off for a quick knee trembler or two during the evening.

Each to their own. OP, you might struggle, but you might meet 'the one' and get a successful club buddy. No reason to not try at least.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I am just happy I don't live in banbury!"

Yeah, it's a very economically deprived area. It's not a great place to live because of that.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

I've been with a few men who were newbies and scared. I don't play at clubs so there was no expectation from them.

I did end up doing stuff at home with one of them later and seeing another for 18 months.

But they were all perfect gentlemen at the club

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nail on head, my original post was about the fact the vibe on couples night is more enjoyable, will settle on a good local club, cupids or armour and build up my friendships

You're not a couple - therefore you wouldn't be welcome at a couples night.

If all the couples at a couples night were just men chaperoning women, then it would just be a singles night."

as long as you go as a couple. There most clubs would let you in. I know many single ladies that take new gentlemen to clubs as a couple

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By *arksidesubCouple  over a year ago

not far from you..

...I have nobody to go with & very much enjoy clubs (especially La chambre) as I know this club well. Would love to get to know a female /couple non pushy, who I could attend with.

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!! "

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't need a chaperone, I'm a big girl now.

I would be pretty uncomfortable taking a single bloke to a couples night as it disingenuous and disrespectful to the club and other guests.

I don't go on my own to couples nights, why should you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate "

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...I have nobody to go with & very much enjoy clubs (especially La chambre) as I know this club well. Would love to get to know a female /couple non pushy, who I could attend with. "

Using this thread to shamelessly promote the offers will be rolling in

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Its not cynicism if its true.

I have been to clubs with men and woman, and in a huge group of people. I have experienced both the man ditching me once we're through the door, and the man who clung to me all night, audibly growling if anyone dared to venture near. I have also experienced men who have been excellent fun, and so I visited clubs with them again.

However, I find it easier and more relaxing to go to clubs with women as there is no chance of there being any misunderstandings, or groups where we can all have a laugh, but nip off for a quick knee trembler or two during the evening.

Each to their own. OP, you might struggle, but you might meet 'the one' and get a successful club buddy. No reason to not try at least."

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By *arksidesubCouple  over a year ago

not far from you..


"...I have nobody to go with & very much enjoy clubs (especially La chambre) as I know this club well. Would love to get to know a female /couple non pushy, who I could attend with.

Using this thread to shamelessly promote the offers will be rolling in "

If you don't ask...you don't get!

One can try

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...I have nobody to go with & very much enjoy clubs (especially La chambre) as I know this club well. Would love to get to know a female /couple non pushy, who I could attend with.

Using this thread to shamelessly promote the offers will be rolling in

If you don't ask...you don't get!

One can try"

I'm sure you will get if you are ever in the Manchester area or need help from the man with the tiger pouch then just holler

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

"

It's a vibe you get. I can often tell on sheer body language alone.

It's hard to explain but Genuine (for lack of a better word) couples have a natural chemistry and relaxed vibe with each other that FB couples or escorting couples don't.

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ? "

I said on "a" Saturday not this Saturday, haven't you read my post?

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

It's a vibe you get. I can often tell on sheer body language alone.

It's hard to explain but Genuine (for lack of a better word) couples have a natural chemistry and relaxed vibe with each other that FB couples or escorting couples don't.

"

I'm glad you can tell, I'm gonna start starring at couples now when out at clubs lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

It's a vibe you get. I can often tell on sheer body language alone.

It's hard to explain but Genuine (for lack of a better word) couples have a natural chemistry and relaxed vibe with each other that FB couples or escorting couples don't.

"

I disagree... quite a lot of play couple's seem to have better chemistry and more relaxed body language than many "proper" couples. Not all but definitely we have found this to be the case. And ive only been had a go at by couples from real couples.

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By *he PlaygroundsCouple  over a year ago

Somewhere Over The Rainbow


"Read this thread with interest as i often have this conversation with potential guests

In my opinion, if someone feels that they need a 'chaperone' to attend one of our parties, then i suggest they are possibly not ready to join us

We - and every swinging venue - have experienced staff who will happily ensure that EVERY guest feels safe and comfortable

If necessary, we can even introduce them to other guests but tbh we find that our 'regulars' are pretty damn good at welcoming newbies into the fold

Custom made couples are accepted at some venues - we allow them - but we do have stipulations - you arrive together, you leave together

But i would ALWAYS advise anyone who considers 'coupling up' to look at the reasons for doing so

I also question just how well they know this person and their behaviour because if they disrespect club etiquette do they really want to be associated with them as chances are they will be judged too

Coupling up can be more hassle than its worth and i know SO MANY single ladies and single guys that have tried it and vowed NEVER to do it again!

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ?

I said on "a" Saturday not this Saturday, haven't you read my post? "

Touche , I might let you come with me on 'a' Sunday to Friday then (Ps why is there not a male emoticon blinking alluringly )

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ?

I said on "a" Saturday not this Saturday, haven't you read my post?

Touche , I might let you come with me on 'a' Sunday to Friday then (Ps why is there not a male emoticon blinking alluringly )

"

Are you flirting with me?

(Ps because men look scary blinking alluringly)

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ?

I said on "a" Saturday not this Saturday, haven't you read my post?

Touche , I might let you come with me on 'a' Sunday to Friday then (Ps why is there not a male emoticon blinking alluringly )

Are you flirting with me?

(Ps because men look scary blinking alluringly) "

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ?

I said on "a" Saturday not this Saturday, haven't you read my post?

Touche , I might let you come with me on 'a' Sunday to Friday then (Ps why is there not a male emoticon blinking alluringly )

Are you flirting with me?

(Ps because men look scary blinking alluringly) "

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ?

I said on "a" Saturday not this Saturday, haven't you read my post?

Touche , I might let you come with me on 'a' Sunday to Friday then (Ps why is there not a male emoticon blinking alluringly )

Are you flirting with me?

(Ps because men look scary blinking alluringly) "

I most certainly am and I think my alluring blink looks very appealing ( in fairness you are right I'm a more of a smouldering look kind of guy, if I tried my blink you would think I was having a stroke, not that there is anything funny about that people !!!)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nail on head, my original post was about the fact the vibe on couples night is more enjoyable, will settle on a good local club, cupids or armour and build up my friendships

You're not a couple - therefore you wouldn't be welcome at a couples night.

If all the couples at a couples night were just men chaperoning women, then it would just be a singles night. as long as you go as a couple. There most clubs would let you in. I know many single ladies that take new gentlemen to clubs as a couple "

But the OP said with no expectation to do anything with him. Which means you're effectively single inside the club.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

It's a vibe you get. I can often tell on sheer body language alone.

It's hard to explain but Genuine (for lack of a better word) couples have a natural chemistry and relaxed vibe with each other that FB couples or escorting couples don't.

"

I suspect that largely depends on amount of time you've known each other as much as anything else.

My longest term partner and I have been together over five years now, but we get turned down by "genuine" couples because we're "just fuckbuddies" apparently.

We've played with plenty of non-escalator couples of varying kinds who were more relaxed than their escalator counterparts.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley

How does this work? Women give out their home address to strangers on the internet who then drive to their home and then she gets into the stranger’s car. Unlicensed minicab!

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

It's a vibe you get. I can often tell on sheer body language alone.

It's hard to explain but Genuine (for lack of a better word) couples have a natural chemistry and relaxed vibe with each other that FB couples or escorting couples don't.

I disagree... quite a lot of play couple's seem to have better chemistry and more relaxed body language than many "proper" couples. Not all but definitely we have found this to be the case. And ive only been had a go at by couples from real couples. "

Maybe it's because I'm speaking from the experience of a single fem as opposed to that of a couple, so I read different things into people/couple perhaps

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

We've played with plenty of non-escalator couples of varying kinds who were more relaxed than their escalator counterparts."

What's an escalator couple?

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"

We've played with plenty of non-escalator couples of varying kinds who were more relaxed than their escalator counterparts.

What's an escalator couple?"

Ones who 'ride' [bareback]

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've escorted ladies to a few clubs. I think it works, if you are both under the assumption that nothing is expected. The ladies gets a companion, the fella gets in somewhere he otherwise wouldn't. Anything else is a bonus.

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By *litterbabeWoman  over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I I have no idea about the escalator term... that's a new one on me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I took a lady to her first club on Saturday night and it was great fun.

It was only our second meet but we got on well enough the first time and chatted quite a bit so both felt comfortable doing it. While it's true I wouldn't have gotten in the club if on my own it wasn't the motivation for taking her, in fact we only played with each other all night and were happy to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am thinking of going to a club. The amount of offers of an escort are ridiculous.

I clocked on quickly that most guys are wanting to be able to get in cheaper as a couple the as a single guy.

So if I choose to have an escort after everythin I've reaob this threas, I'll be driving and it will be made clear that we go as singles not a couple

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!"

i think for the most partit has remained on topic.... i just don't think you are liking the answers you are getting and hence look at it as a personal slant against you...

I have been asked to couple up to go to clubs, and it is something i very very rarely do...

I don't see a different between going to a club on my own not really knowing anyone .......and going to a club with someone i don't know again meeting people i don't know...

in fact the latter compounds the uncertainties...

i don't really want to be judged by the company i chose if the person is quite frankly an arse......

i have happy to meet people there, i am happy to give people a lift home, but i would hope that you are adult enough in your own right to be able to meet and talk to people without another person being there....

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!"

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

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By *ohohoWoman  over a year ago

Up North


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol? "

I don't think it has

I think anyone escorting anyone to a club needs to think long and hard about it. Male or female. Just more women have spoken up in this thread. Going with someone you know is different. But a stranger is a risk for anyone for all the reasons mentioned in this thread.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol? "

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do."

Yeah but single women are welcome at all these couple's nights. So there is no hypocrisy in that.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol? "

i think thats the way he "perceived" the thread went because people were not agreeing with him.....

the victim card gets played around here a bit too quick at times.....

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do. Yeah but single women are welcome at all these couple's nights. So there is no hypocrisy in that. "

Probably because more couples want single women than they want single men. The club owners permit those who are wanted and restrict those, who are not

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

For me it's the whole feeling like a meal ticket aspect that's just a bit seedy

I want to go to a couples night so I'll go with a fem to get in

I've been with guys to clubs for their nervous first visit, but these are guys I've previously met and made friends with and we've just arrived together, but both gone as singles

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

i think thats the way he "perceived" the thread went because people were not agreeing with him.....

the victim card gets played around here a bit too quick at times.....

"

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do. Yeah but single women are welcome at all these couple's nights. So there is no hypocrisy in that.

Probably because more couples want single women than they want single men. The club owners permit those who are wanted and restrict those, who are not"

Yeah I know why a lot of this swinging is built on misogyny and double standards. Women are the draw and always will be.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do. Yeah but single women are welcome at all these couple's nights. So there is no hypocrisy in that. "

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do. Yeah but single women are welcome at all these couple's nights. So there is no hypocrisy in that.

Probably because more couples want single women than they want single men. The club owners permit those who are wanted and restrict those, who are not Yeah I know why a lot of this swinging is built on misogyny and double standards. Women are the draw and always will be. "

That is not entirely true. Men are the 'draw' in Gay swinging

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

Yeah I know why a lot of this swinging is built on misogyny and double standards. Women are the draw and always will be. "

Well, I don't think you understand it then.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do. Yeah but single women are welcome at all these couple's nights. So there is no hypocrisy in that.

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men."

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would be pretty uncomfortable taking a single bloke to a couples night as it disingenuous and disrespectful to the club and other guests."

For the record:

Most clubs around UK don't mind. It is not disingenuous and disrespectful. As long as both singles understand the rules you come together therefore especially the man can't go into 'couples rooms' only alone... (unless invited in some cases )

And some clubs do have rules where people have to stay together while in the club. Not able to wonder off as singles... clubs appreciate many singles play together and want to enjoy club scene on couples nights with other couples.

In terms of other guests:

Many guests want a man or woman to come with a playmate for full swap. The guests who only want 'real couples' in a relationship can tell the difference.

Me personally if I go with someone we always make it clear to other guests we are not a couple, couple

Single blokes:

As you were!

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining. "

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed."

No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy. "

It's not hypocrisy. They just don't want loads of single blokes on that particular night. On other nights yes, and on those they are more than welcome. On couples nights single women can go, that is the 'hypocrisy' you are on about. Newsflash - men and women are different and interact in different ways and in different numbers.

Most people are here to have fun, not seek out non-existent grievances. Relax and look for fun instead.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy. "

I don't understand. What is the hypocrisy (the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case)?

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

It's not hypocrisy. They just don't want loads of single blokes on that particular night. On other nights yes, and on those they are more than welcome. On couples nights single women can go, that is the 'hypocrisy' you are on about. Newsflash - men and women are different and interact in different ways and in different numbers.

Most people are here to have fun, not seek out non-existent grievances. Relax and look for fun instead. "

You could balance numbers of singles. Of course it's hypocritical that single women are allowed and single men aren't. Single women aren't all impeccably behaved either it's just thought single men are more of a risk. I am not seeking out grievances just don't tell me something isn't hypocritical when it clearly is.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley

Those couples who visit clubs on couples and single women only nights, do not want to meet single men; they want to meet single women

Those single women who visit clubs on couples and single women only nights, do not want to meet single men; they want to meet couples

Those couples and single women who want to meet single men visit clubs on nights when single men are welcome too

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy. "

but different nights are meant to appeal to different people.....

for example would you complaining if i that night were a greedy girl night... would couples complain because they night isn't aimed at that?

you can argue the point... or you can argue the prinicple,

if you are arguement the point, why would you want to go on a night where you in general are not wanted?

if you are arguement the principle then all know where they are not all "all inclusive" would have to go.... Black for white, BBW, bi night, cougars and cubs, greedy girls

so... pick your poison!

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

It's not hypocrisy. They just don't want loads of single blokes on that particular night. On other nights yes, and on those they are more than welcome. On couples nights single women can go, that is the 'hypocrisy' you are on about. Newsflash - men and women are different and interact in different ways and in different numbers.

Most people are here to have fun, not seek out non-existent grievances. Relax and look for fun instead. You could balance numbers of singles. Of course it's hypocritical that single women are allowed and single men aren't. Single women aren't all impeccably behaved either it's just thought single men are more of a risk. I am not seeking out grievances just don't tell me something isn't hypocritical when it clearly is."

Single men and single women are different, the play is different, the dynamic is different, the people who go are often different.

On certain nights some couples go who specifically don't want single men there. The clubs cater for that. Single women being there isn't an issue to those couples.

It's not hypocrisy, it's different dynamics of swinging events.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Single men and single women are different, the play is different, the dynamic is different, the people who go are often different.

On certain nights some couples go who specifically don't want single men there. The clubs cater for that. Single women being there isn't an issue to those couples.

It's not hypocrisy, it's different dynamics of swinging events."

actually... this is where i will disagree with you...

because if a couple want a single.... i don't think the dynamic between a couple and a single woman, and a couple and a single man are different......

and actually there is a point where i will agree with rock

you are right in the case that on some nights there are couples that don't want a single man.... but there are also couples that won't want a single woman ... but you aren't barring them from going!

so you are telling couples that only want single men that there are not really welcome on a couples and single woman... and thats where i think you are heading towards a dangerous line....

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

but different nights are meant to appeal to different people.....

for example would you complaining if i that night were a greedy girl night... would couples complain because they night isn't aimed at that?

you can argue the point... or you can argue the prinicple,

if you are arguement the point, why would you want to go on a night where you in general are not wanted?

if you are arguement the principle then all know where they are not all "all inclusive" would have to go.... Black for white, BBW, bi night, cougars and cubs, greedy girls

so... pick your poison!"

I understand, I'm not trying to make it all inclusive it is more the point. If I want to go a couples only I will take a woman like I have done in clubs where there aren't strict entry policies e.g a verified fab couple, showing utility bills etc.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

Single men and single women are different, the play is different, the dynamic is different, the people who go are often different.

On certain nights some couples go who specifically don't want single men there. The clubs cater for that. Single women being there isn't an issue to those couples.

It's not hypocrisy, it's different dynamics of swinging events.

actually... this is where i will disagree with you...

because if a couple want a single.... i don't think the dynamic between a couple and a single woman, and a couple and a single man are different......

and actually there is a point where i will agree with rock

you are right in the case that on some nights there are couples that don't want a single man.... but there are also couples that won't want a single woman ... but you aren't barring them from going!

so you are telling couples that only want single men that there are not really welcome on a couples and single woman... and thats where i think you are heading towards a dangerous line...."

They just have a biased opinion.

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Some clubs wouldn't allow you in as a couple when you're not one

How would they know though?

There are different types of couples,

how do people know who are real and who aren't? I'm not talking about the ones who leave the other half although I do know married couples who do do that so even that isn't a real indication.

I can never tell.

Let's go and party at chams kailey, I will treat you like a lady and entertain you (non-sexually) with some great northern humour!!!

Your not using me to get in on a Saturday mate

Can't do Saturday, I'm in Amsterdam, havent you read my status ?

I said on "a" Saturday not this Saturday, haven't you read my post?

Touche , I might let you come with me on 'a' Sunday to Friday then (Ps why is there not a male emoticon blinking alluringly )

Are you flirting with me?

(Ps because men look scary blinking alluringly)

I most certainly am and I think my alluring blink looks very appealing ( in fairness you are right I'm a more of a smouldering look kind of guy, if I tried my blink you would think I was having a stroke, not that there is anything funny about that people !!!)"

You just watch where you smoulder mate

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

Single men and single women are different, the play is different, the dynamic is different, the people who go are often different.

On certain nights some couples go who specifically don't want single men there. The clubs cater for that. Single women being there isn't an issue to those couples.

It's not hypocrisy, it's different dynamics of swinging events.

actually... this is where i will disagree with you...

because if a couple want a single.... i don't think the dynamic between a couple and a single woman, and a couple and a single man are different......

and actually there is a point where i will agree with rock

you are right in the case that on some nights there are couples that don't want a single man.... but there are also couples that won't want a single woman ... but you aren't barring them from going!

so you are telling couples that only want single men that there are not really welcome on a couples and single woman... and thats where i think you are heading towards a dangerous line...."

There's two different things here, which I'll try to answer separately.

First. Generalising here btw. The dynamics in a ffm and a mmf are different. The ffm tends to be bi women and a guy and is very much a 3 way play. An mmf is 'generally' straight men and a woman. Different play, different dynamic.

Your second point. The couples who don't want single women are there for mfmf play. No need or want for exclusion.

Surely the proof is in the pudding? Most clubs offer equally popular couples / single fem nights and mixed nights. Many people go to both.

I just don't get on with this situation where people latch on to an anti-single guy culture.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"Jeez, this thread was more about whether ladies would enjoy being "chaperoned" (which i agree is now the best description ) and whether they would enjoy company, somehow its developed into men trying to get in on the cheap and blokes being unreliable, all good discussion though which I guess is what a forum us about!

Wow! Another thread being turned into a 'man-basher'? Who'd have thought lol?

I don't think it's anti-man (I am one).

The Op was trying to be genuine in saying he had no expectation of play. That is completely the right way. He perhaps hadn't seen the consequence that he would then be a single man inside a couples night. This evolves into the 'what about fb's ' which is a similar type discussion, but a separate one really.

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do."

My comment was tongue in cheek

Having been a lonely guy in a club full of couples, I can attest it's not a great position to be in

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy. "

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something?

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? "

No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight."

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son. Maybe you really should wait for your mentor TheSuperfreak to come and help you instead of trying to use words you don't understand fully.

In this case I'm not defending women, I'm attacking your inability to think independently and critically.

Don't let me stop you though. Every day is a school day and all that...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't bother going as a single man any more as spent too much time feeling like billy no mates. I will either go with a lady friend or not at all.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son. Maybe you really should wait for your mentor TheSuperfreak to come and help you instead of trying to use words you don't understand fully.

In this case I'm not defending women, I'm attacking your inability to think independently and critically.

Don't let me stop you though. Every day is a school day and all that... "

I quoted him once because he gave a good answer to something. You are trying to attack me when you don't understand what I'm saying. White knight doesn't necessarily mean protecting women either. It means coming to someone's aid so there is a lesson for you boy. So the whole concept of allowing 1 set of singles but not others isn't hypocritical in the slightest then? I understand the dynamics and why etc but that still doesn't mean it isn't hypocritical.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

"

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

I personally think it is a bad idea. Not anti-man, just not the right thing to do.

My comment was tongue in cheek

Having been a lonely guy in a club full of couples, I can attest it's not a great position to be in "

My bad. It's sometimes hard to pick up on a tongue in cheek comment, when written down

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple  over a year ago

Bristol

We would have to know a guy pretty well for wiggles to go alone to a club with them as a chaperone.

As others have stated wiggles wouldn't want to be tied to them if they screw up.

On other hand we have met some great singles at clubs, that have changed our old view of single guys.. think a couples only night now would feel more for us.

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son. Maybe you really should wait for your mentor TheSuperfreak to come and help you instead of trying to use words you don't understand fully.

In this case I'm not defending women, I'm attacking your inability to think independently and critically.

Don't let me stop you though. Every day is a school day and all that... I quoted him once because he gave a good answer to something. You are trying to attack me when you don't understand what I'm saying. White knight doesn't necessarily mean protecting women either. It means coming to someone's aid so there is a lesson for you boy. So the whole concept of allowing 1 set of singles but not others isn't hypocritical in the slightest then? I understand the dynamics and why etc but that still doesn't mean it isn't hypocritical. "

Ok. Sensible reply now.

Every day I can attend club "X" at any time. Apart from one day. Out of the whole week. Please tell me how that is discriminatory? What is the problem with going to another club? Or maybe coming back another day?

Maybe I'm looking at this strangely but I see swinging as mostly a hobby. It's not vital to my existence. Not allowed to sit in a cafe and eat my dinner? Yeah, I might have a problem with that. Not allow to partake in sexytime with people who don't want me to be there? Meh!

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple  over a year ago

Bristol


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son. Maybe you really should wait for your mentor TheSuperfreak to come and help you instead of trying to use words you don't understand fully.

In this case I'm not defending women, I'm attacking your inability to think independently and critically.

Don't let me stop you though. Every day is a school day and all that... I quoted him once because he gave a good answer to something. You are trying to attack me when you don't understand what I'm saying. White knight doesn't necessarily mean protecting women either. It means coming to someone's aid so there is a lesson for you boy. So the whole concept of allowing 1 set of singles but not others isn't hypocritical in the slightest then? I understand the dynamics and why etc but that still doesn't mean it isn't hypocritical.

Ok. Sensible reply now.

Every day I can attend club "X" at any time. Apart from one day. Out of the whole week. Please tell me how that is discriminatory? What is the problem with going to another club? Or maybe coming back another day?

Maybe I'm looking at this strangely but I see swinging as mostly a hobby. It's not vital to my existence. Not allowed to sit in a cafe and eat my dinner? Yeah, I might have a problem with that. Not allow to partake in sexytime with people who don't want me to be there? Meh! "

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son. Maybe you really should wait for your mentor TheSuperfreak to come and help you instead of trying to use words you don't understand fully.

In this case I'm not defending women, I'm attacking your inability to think independently and critically.

Don't let me stop you though. Every day is a school day and all that... I quoted him once because he gave a good answer to something. You are trying to attack me when you don't understand what I'm saying. White knight doesn't necessarily mean protecting women either. It means coming to someone's aid so there is a lesson for you boy. So the whole concept of allowing 1 set of singles but not others isn't hypocritical in the slightest then? I understand the dynamics and why etc but that still doesn't mean it isn't hypocritical.

Ok. Sensible reply now.

Every day I can attend club "X" at any time. Apart from one day. Out of the whole week. Please tell me how that is discriminatory? What is the problem with going to another club? Or maybe coming back another day?

Maybe I'm looking at this strangely but I see swinging as mostly a hobby. It's not vital to my existence. Not allowed to sit in a cafe and eat my dinner? Yeah, I might have a problem with that. Not allow to partake in sexytime with people who don't want me to be there? Meh! "

If you read the thread you would see I'm not trying to change it. Just pointing out the hypocrisy in the concept of it. If I wanna go a couples only I'd take a woman like I have done where there aren't strict entry policies.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

"

You don't know what white knight means either then.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

Ok. Sensible reply now.

Every day I can attend club "X" at any time. Apart from one day. Out of the whole week. Please tell me how that is discriminatory? What is the problem with going to another club? Or maybe coming back another day?

Maybe I'm looking at this strangely but I see swinging as mostly a hobby. It's not vital to my existence. Not allowed to sit in a cafe and eat my dinner? Yeah, I might have a problem with that. Not allow to partake in sexytime with people who don't want me to be there? Meh! "

Nail. Head.

Chilled out reasonable understanding of swinging is so much more appealing than chips on shoulders.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then. "

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"

That's something completely different. Those nights are for couples and single ladies. It's not hypocrisy, the rule on that night is no single men.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

Funny phrase but meaningless in this context. Those nights aren't for single men. You don't like it, but that's what it is. Other days and nights are mixed. No used in exactly the right context. Yeah it's a rule i understand but the whole idea couples and single ladies only is hypocrisy.

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son. Maybe you really should wait for your mentor TheSuperfreak to come and help you instead of trying to use words you don't understand fully.

In this case I'm not defending women, I'm attacking your inability to think independently and critically.

Don't let me stop you though. Every day is a school day and all that... I quoted him once because he gave a good answer to something. You are trying to attack me when you don't understand what I'm saying. White knight doesn't necessarily mean protecting women either. It means coming to someone's aid so there is a lesson for you boy. So the whole concept of allowing 1 set of singles but not others isn't hypocritical in the slightest then? I understand the dynamics and why etc but that still doesn't mean it isn't hypocritical.

Ok. Sensible reply now.

Every day I can attend club "X" at any time. Apart from one day. Out of the whole week. Please tell me how that is discriminatory? What is the problem with going to another club? Or maybe coming back another day?

Maybe I'm looking at this strangely but I see swinging as mostly a hobby. It's not vital to my existence. Not allowed to sit in a cafe and eat my dinner? Yeah, I might have a problem with that. Not allow to partake in sexytime with people who don't want me to be there? Meh! "

Exactly; there are clubs which exclusively have activities which I do not like. I can visit those clubs and stand around like a lemon complaining or I can just go to a club where I am welcomed. I know where I will go

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it."

He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women. "

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go "

Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence. "

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night.

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. "

I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

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By *ilk_TreMan  over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


" ... I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence. "

I haven't even got warmed up yet.

In fact, please keep your profile hidden. I'm going to run a book on how old you are. I'll set the line at 21 and I'll take the under while everyone else can but on the over. I'm quite confident that I'll make a killing!

I'm sure I'm heading for a trip to "Time out town" but I just...can't...resist...

Surely it should be illegal to have this much fun on a Wednesday night...

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


" ... I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

I haven't even got warmed up yet.

In fact, please keep your profile hidden. I'm going to run a book on how old you are. I'll set the line at 21 and I'll take the under while everyone else can but on the over. I'm quite confident that I'll make a killing!

I'm sure I'm heading for a trip to "Time out town" but I just...can't...resist...

Surely it should be illegal to have this much fun on a Wednesday night..."

You gonna have to up you're game then. I'm not sad enough to report anyone I can defend myself.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well. "

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion "

Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. "

Now, that is hypocritical, as if it is the same guy I am thinking of, then he himself is quite a chubby chappie

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same. "

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual "

No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

Now, that is hypocritical, as if it is the same guy I am thinking of, then he himself is quite a chubby chappie "

Yea that him he is overweight himself

Funny how one of us mere dumbasses managed to give a better example of hypocrisy than the intellectual amongst us

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent. "

Nah just seems that way to someone that treats their opinion as if it's that of gods

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent.

Nah just seems that way to someone that treats their opinion as if it's that of gods "

You do realise the irony of now of your post before about people disagreeing and letting go yet you can't let go with me.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent.

Nah just seems that way to someone that treats their opinion as if it's that of gods You do realise the irony of now of your post before about people disagreeing and letting go yet you can't let go with me. "

Well at least I understand the true meaning of hypocrisy

And while arguably I won't let it go neither still will you, so it could merely be perceived to be actually adding emphasis to my earlier point rather than irony

It's all about perspective and you are as equally biased to yours as you've accused others of being, so by your perspective we're both capable of irony

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent.

Nah just seems that way to someone that treats their opinion as if it's that of gods You do realise the irony of now of your post before about people disagreeing and letting go yet you can't let go with me.

Well at least I understand the true meaning of hypocrisy

And while arguably I won't let it go neither still will you, so it could merely be perceived to be actually adding emphasis to my earlier point rather than irony

It's all about perspective and you are as equally biased to yours as you've accused others of being, so by your perspective we're both capable of irony

"

I understand the meaning clearly. No I'm not preaching something then contradicting myself. I'm not telling people to stop contributing.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent.

Nah just seems that way to someone that treats their opinion as if it's that of gods You do realise the irony of now of your post before about people disagreeing and letting go yet you can't let go with me.

Well at least I understand the true meaning of hypocrisy

And while arguably I won't let it go neither still will you, so it could merely be perceived to be actually adding emphasis to my earlier point rather than irony

It's all about perspective and you are as equally biased to yours as you've accused others of being, so by your perspective we're both capable of irony

I understand the meaning clearly. No I'm not preaching something then contradicting myself. I'm not telling people to stop contributing. "

You have serval times you just can't see it

Bless ya

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By *op gooserMan  over a year ago

chester


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent.

Nah just seems that way to someone that treats their opinion as if it's that of gods You do realise the irony of now of your post before about people disagreeing and letting go yet you can't let go with me.

Well at least I understand the true meaning of hypocrisy

And while arguably I won't let it go neither still will you, so it could merely be perceived to be actually adding emphasis to my earlier point rather than irony

It's all about perspective and you are as equally biased to yours as you've accused others of being, so by your perspective we're both capable of irony

I understand the meaning clearly. No I'm not preaching something then contradicting myself. I'm not telling people to stop contributing.

You have serval times you just can't see it

Bless ya "

Humour me and highlight it then?

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"

On. Those. Nights.

Geez! Are you fucking stupid or something? No far from it but you must be to not to see it white knight.

Oops! Poor use of jargon, son.

You don't know what white knight means either then.

Yes thanks. And I also like the fact that a black guy is relaxed enough to joke about it.

I think you missed it. He wasn't joking, he assumed like I think you did that it just meant protecting women.

Yea he was being jovial it's why he's also made a serious response

You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to your opinion. People don't agree with you, just have a bit of grace and let it go Well I don't think he was being there, you are being a white knight now it's a forum for debate. I won't lie down especially when someone is trying to insult my intelligence.

From where I'm standing you do a good enough job of that all on your own

For example

There's a profile called city slickers that organise parties, they don't allow fat women to attend, now I could bitch about how unfair that is all day if I wanted to, or call them hypocrites because they regularly view my profile and I'm clearly ok to perve on and not worthy to attend their events in a similar argument you're making. I wouldn't however, I just think fine I'll leave them to it and ok those parties aren't for me, ill look elsewhere, you know the way a single guy would/should on a couples and fems only night. I don't think so just schooled some on this thread haha. Like I said i'm not trying to change it. I know what i have to do if i wannna go. That comparison doesn't really work either if you lost weight you could possibly go if you are deemed attractive enough as well.

Well then the comparison does work as there's things we can both do get around these things if we choose to

Or could just carrying on bitching about it in the spirit of "debate", seems unproductive to me though, clearly weren't intellectually unequal in order for me to come to that logical conclusion Behave yourself I have seen you do the same on BBW threads etc you are being a hypocrite. The guy attacked me, without even reading the thread and I defended you would do the same.

Your only defence is to call everyone that disagrees with you or has a policy you don't agree with an hypocrite.

It's hardly the best defence of a self proclaimed intellectual No I only use it when it is appropriate. Usually I just tell them they are wrong which on here is frequent.

Nah just seems that way to someone that treats their opinion as if it's that of gods You do realise the irony of now of your post before about people disagreeing and letting go yet you can't let go with me.

Well at least I understand the true meaning of hypocrisy

And while arguably I won't let it go neither still will you, so it could merely be perceived to be actually adding emphasis to my earlier point rather than irony

It's all about perspective and you are as equally biased to yours as you've accused others of being, so by your perspective we're both capable of irony

I understand the meaning clearly. No I'm not preaching something then contradicting myself. I'm not telling people to stop contributing.

You have serval times you just can't see it

Bless ya Humour me and highlight it then? "

I've already given you the examples, as the intellectual you claim to be you shouldn't need me to highlight them further.

But continue to engage me and prove my points further

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

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By *empting Devil.Woman  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

But surely there are single women who would love to try clubs with knowledge they are going to be looked after..."

Single women are generally looked after really well by the clubs themselves. So no need for an escort unless you are confident of him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Hi all, well this thread is about to reach its maximum post length which for a first OP is rewarding that I chose a subject so many people are passionate about.

I will reinforce this was about debate and my enjoyment of clubs and the opportunity of having company which i would enjoy (without expectation) and enjoying the flirtation with sexy people. Don't take the lifestyle to seriously and advise where possible, onto the next thread and seeing if a smoulder becomes a flame!

Personal thanks to the comments from the ladies it has provided me with a far more balanced view of the subject.

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