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I saw a woman this morning who looked like someone I know from kestrels and it just made me sad that I won’t be seeing this whole group of people who are all friends en masse this summer.
I don’t know how the search for kestrels 2.0 is coming on but there’s a huge community that’s been disbanded and disbursed! I know there’s some alternatives but not everyone is going to the same place or at the same time. It truly was a unique place  |
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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago
Slough Windsor ish |
We only said this afternoon it looks like being a cracking Kestrels weekend.... A Russell bbq Sunday... open til midnight then back for more Monday. So sad.... hurry up Kestrels 2 we are waiting for you xxx |
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"We only said this afternoon it looks like being a cracking Kestrels weekend.... A Russell bbq Sunday... open til midnight then back for more Monday. So sad.... hurry up Kestrels 2 we are waiting for you xxx"
I was just saying what a shame they cant join forces with the Naturist only group in Crowthorne. 4 Acres separated up and swingers only areas another pool and stables etc Im sure it could be workable. 
Not sure The Naturists would like it much though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have met few people from kestrels(abfabs) at vanilla alternative and also met staff member there last night. I think VA is popular choice among kestrels(abfabs) members since closure. |
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over a year ago
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I was just saying what a shame they cant join forces with the Naturist only group in Crowthorne. 4 Acres separated up and swingers only areas another pool and stables etc Im sure it could be workable.
Not sure The Naturists would like it much though. "
Depends on whether they want better facilities, lower membership fees, which the fees from the sub let would give them. |
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I was just saying what a shame they cant join forces with the Naturist only group in Crowthorne. 4 Acres separated up and swingers only areas another pool and stables etc Im sure it could be workable.
Not sure The Naturists would like it much though.
Depends on whether they want better facilities, lower membership fees, which the fees from the sub let would give them."
Totally different environments, doubt the current members worry about the membership fees. |
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I was just saying what a shame they cant join forces with the Naturist only group in Crowthorne. 4 Acres separated up and swingers only areas another pool and stables etc Im sure it could be workable.
Not sure The Naturists would like it much though.
Depends on whether they want better facilities, lower membership fees, which the fees from the sub let would give them.
Totally different environments, doubt the current members worry about the membership fees. "
If it's this one they've been under threat in the past so maybe an input of money might not be a bad thing
West Sussex nudist holiday park popular with caravanners may be closed in order to make way for new homes development
Plans to build new homes on a plot of land occupied by a naturist holiday park have been submitted to Mid Sussex district council.
The 45 homes proposed to be built on a plot of land currently occupying Little Oaks Sun Club in Copthorne, West Sussex, would see a mix of one and two-bedroom apartments and two to four bedroom houses, 14 of which are said to be based on the government's Affordable Homes Programme.
Little Oaks is surrounded by four acres of secluded woodland and accommodates tents, caravans and motorhomes. Facilities include tennis courts, a swimming pool, jacuzzi and sauna, with activities including quizzes, parties, firework displays and barbeques. We at CaravanTimes assume caution is taken when it's time to turn the sausages.
What do you think? If these plans come into effect, would this be a travesty or should the naked campers and caravanners be forced to make way for new homes |
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I was just saying what a shame they cant join forces with the Naturist only group in Crowthorne. 4 Acres separated up and swingers only areas another pool and stables etc Im sure it could be workable.
Not sure The Naturists would like it much though.
Depends on whether they want better facilities, lower membership fees, which the fees from the sub let would give them.
Totally different environments, doubt the current members worry about the membership fees.
If it's this one they've been under threat in the past so maybe an input of money might not be a bad thing
West Sussex nudist holiday park popular with caravanners may be closed in order to make way for new homes development
Plans to build new homes on a plot of land occupied by a naturist holiday park have been submitted to Mid Sussex district council.
The 45 homes proposed to be built on a plot of land currently occupying Little Oaks Sun Club in Copthorne, West Sussex, would see a mix of one and two-bedroom apartments and two to four bedroom houses, 14 of which are said to be based on the government's Affordable Homes Programme.
Little Oaks is surrounded by four acres of secluded woodland and accommodates tents, caravans and motorhomes. Facilities include tennis courts, a swimming pool, jacuzzi and sauna, with activities including quizzes, parties, firework displays and barbeques. We at CaravanTimes assume caution is taken when it's time to turn the sausages.
What do you think? If these plans come into effect, would this be a travesty or should the naked campers and caravanners be forced to make way for new homes"
That don't want us anywhere....the proodish English ...now France that's a different matter very open
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By *lovisMan
over a year ago
Twickenham |
Diaspora
A diaspora is a scattered population whose origin lies in a separate geographic locale.
In particular, Diaspora has come to refer to involuntary mass dispersions of a population from its indigenous territories. |
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"Diaspora
A diaspora is a scattered population whose origin lies in a separate geographic locale.
In particular, Diaspora has come to refer to involuntary mass dispersions of a population from its indigenous territories. "
Great name for a new club |
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Only went once at night so never got to experience Kestrels itself.
Was a great concept and had great facilities.
There is a nudist club in Sharnbrook near me so I can at least get my sunbathing fix there. |
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Am gutted it’s gone. It was so nice strolling around as nature intended!!! And then party times in the evening.
It was so big as well as something for everyone. It’s the only club/venue I’ve ever been too!!! Any suggestions or recommendations would be welcomed please. Thanks x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Such a great club. When I first moved to London it was the first club I went to. That was 2015. Since then I’ve moved home but I’m still in contact with folks from club. A top top top club. And very very sad. |
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over a year ago
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"Such a great club. When I first moved to London it was the first club I went to. That was 2015. Since then I’ve moved home but I’m still in contact with folks from club. A top top top club. And very very sad. "
It was our first club too! |
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"Such a great club. When I first moved to London it was the first club I went to. That was 2015. Since then I’ve moved home but I’m still in contact with folks from club. A top top top club. And very very sad.
It was our first club too! "
Yes totally agree with all that. Not including one visit to Le Boudoir, it was my second club. I was told about it after chatting to a lovely couple at the first club I went to. Much preferred it at Kestrels too.
Really sad it's gone and only wish I'd started going years eatlier. I'd only been going since Aug 2016. Still 18 months is better than nothing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are good alternatives. Kestrel was always overly expensive, 40 quid for single men!!
I live right near kestrel n Eureka ( 20 plus fuel) was always a cheaper option.
We have Zeus spa, Hellfire n studlands beach just a 2 hour drive. There's enough options, people in West London home counties need to stop feeling sorry for themselves
Loads of house parties n socials have now bursted into the scene which wouldn't of happened before |
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"There are good alternatives. Kestrel was always overly expensive, 40 quid for single men!!
I live right near kestrel n Eureka ( 20 plus fuel) was always a cheaper option.
We have Zeus spa, Hellfire n studlands beach just a 2 hour drive. There's enough options, people in West London home counties need to stop feeling sorry for themselves
Loads of house parties n socials have now bursted into the scene which wouldn't of happened before"
Fair to say that someone hasn't completely understood the theme of this post and I for one am pleased you spent more time at Eurekas.
Ps - crap grammar in your final paragraph. |
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"There are good alternatives. Kestrel was always overly expensive, 40 quid for single men!!
I live right near kestrel n Eureka ( 20 plus fuel) was always a cheaper option.
We have Zeus spa, Hellfire n studlands beach just a 2 hour drive. There's enough options, people in West London home counties need to stop feeling sorry for themselves
Loads of house parties n socials have now bursted into the scene which wouldn't of happened before"
It might of been a little more expensive but lots of stuff were FREE!!! Like towels coffee tea soft drinks food you could bring in instead of paying OTT for rubbish food.... Shall I go on??? Also it was clean the only other place I've been to is the greenhouse now that was clean!!!! |
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By *lovisMan
over a year ago
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"There are good alternatives. Kestrel was always overly expensive, 40 quid for single men!!
I live right near kestrel n Eureka ( 20 plus fuel) was always a cheaper option.
We have Zeus spa, Hellfire n studlands beach just a 2 hour drive. There's enough options, people in West London home counties need to stop feeling sorry for themselves
Loads of house parties n socials have now bursted into the scene which wouldn't of happened before
It might of been a little more expensive but lots of stuff were FREE!!! Like towels coffee tea soft drinks food you could bring in instead of paying OTT for rubbish food.... Shall I go on??? Also it was clean the only other place I've been to is the greenhouse now that was clean!!!! "
And ice - don't forget the ice which would have been very welcome last weekend. |
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"There are good alternatives. Kestrel was always overly expensive, 40 quid for single men!!
I live right near kestrel n Eureka ( 20 plus fuel) was always a cheaper option.
We have Zeus spa, Hellfire n studlands beach just a 2 hour drive. There's enough options, people in West London home counties need to stop feeling sorry for themselves
Loads of house parties n socials have now bursted into the scene which wouldn't of happened before
It might of been a little more expensive but lots of stuff were FREE!!! Like towels coffee tea soft drinks food you could bring in instead of paying OTT for rubbish food.... Shall I go on??? Also it was clean the only other place I've been to is the greenhouse now that was clean!!!!
And ice - don't forget the ice which would have been very welcome last weekend. "
And the occasionally ice cream |
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"There are good alternatives. Kestrel was always overly expensive, 40 quid for single men!!
I live right near kestrel n Eureka ( 20 plus fuel) was always a cheaper option.
We have Zeus spa, Hellfire n studlands beach just a 2 hour drive. There's enough options, people in West London home counties need to stop feeling sorry for themselves
Loads of house parties n socials have now bursted into the scene which wouldn't of happened before
It might of been a little more expensive but lots of stuff were FREE!!! Like towels coffee tea soft drinks food you could bring in instead of paying OTT for rubbish food.... Shall I go on??? Also it was clean the only other place I've been to is the greenhouse now that was clean!!!!
And ice - don't forget the ice which would have been very welcome last weekend.
And the occasionally ice cream "
Or more regular ice lollies lol argh dammit I miss the place! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its half term... it would have been my little holiday spot.
Forget the cost and what was free for that cost. Its the people, the community, I miss  "
Totally agree, everything under one roof and unique. So many great memories! |
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"Its half term... it would have been my little holiday spot.
Forget the cost and what was free for that cost. Its the people, the community, I miss
Totally agree, everything under one roof and unique. So many great memories!"
Lovely to see some familiar faces on this forum, so to speak |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its half term... it would have been my little holiday spot.
Forget the cost and what was free for that cost. Its the people, the community, I miss
Totally agree, everything under one roof and unique. So many great memories!
Lovely to see some familiar faces on this forum, so to speak "
Indeed. If Graham doesnt get his act together then all those great memories will remain just that! |
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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago
Slough Windsor ish |
"Its half term... it would have been my little holiday spot.
Forget the cost and what was free for that cost. Its the people, the community, I miss
Totally agree, everything under one roof and unique. So many great memories!
Lovely to see some familiar faces on this forum, so to speak
Indeed. If Graham doesnt get his act together then all those great memories will remain just that! "
Im certain he will be doing his best... it will be good to have another social in the meantime.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Still miss it and all tbe lovely prople we met there. Going to give eurekas a go in a couolr of weeks. Booked a csbim so hoping for good weather.
Floppsy x |
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By *inkycatWoman
over a year ago
High Wycombe |
I  suggested to Graham a social weekend for members round at mine - Garden isn’t overlooked, huge, I have a hot tub...he didn’t go for it. And I don’t want to give my address to randoms. Sad times because I miss it so much too and sit in the garden thinking how nice it would be to share! |
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"I suggested to Graham a social weekend for members round at mine - Garden isn’t overlooked, huge, I have a hot tub...he didn’t go for it. And I don’t want to give my address to randoms. Sad times because I miss it so much too and sit in the garden thinking how nice it would be to share! "
That would have been a good idea. It’s quite a while since the social the Graham organised. |
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"I suggested to Graham a social weekend for members round at mine - Garden isn’t overlooked, huge, I have a hot tub...he didn’t go for it. And I don’t want to give my address to randoms. Sad times because I miss it so much too and sit in the garden thinking how nice it would be to share! "
That's a shame maybe you should find out who the members were just arrange it yourself |
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By *inkycatWoman
over a year ago
High Wycombe |
"I suggested to Graham a social weekend for members round at mine - Garden isn’t overlooked, huge, I have a hot tub...he didn’t go for it. And I don’t want to give my address to randoms. Sad times because I miss it so much too and sit in the garden thinking how nice it would be to share!
That would have been a good idea. It’s quite a while since the social the Graham organised. "
That’s why I suggested it - thought they could have opened it to members and seen what the response was like. Maybe I should find a way. |
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"I suggested to Graham a social weekend for members round at mine - Garden isn’t overlooked, huge, I have a hot tub...he didn’t go for it. And I don’t want to give my address to randoms. Sad times because I miss it so much too and sit in the garden thinking how nice it would be to share!
That would have been a good idea. It’s quite a while since the social the Graham organised.
That’s why I suggested it - thought they could have opened it to members and seen what the response was like. Maybe I should find a way. "
Cat maybe if you get a couple of members that you already personally know to verify a small group of people (however many you want to invite) as genuine and known at the club themselves as regulars from the club. I’d be happy to help you x |
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By *inkycatWoman
over a year ago
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"I suggested to Graham a social weekend for members round at mine - Garden isn’t overlooked, huge, I have a hot tub...he didn’t go for it. And I don’t want to give my address to randoms. Sad times because I miss it so much too and sit in the garden thinking how nice it would be to share!
That would have been a good idea. It’s quite a while since the social the Graham organised.
That’s why I suggested it - thought they could have opened it to members and seen what the response was like. Maybe I should find a way.
Cat maybe if you get a couple of members that you already personally know to verify a small group of people (however many you want to invite) as genuine and known at the club themselves as regulars from the club. I’d be happy to help you x"
That would be fab, thank you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its half term... it would have been my little holiday spot.
Forget the cost and what was free for that cost. Its the people, the community, I miss
Absolutely. "
Yes it was about the people and community. We have been to other places since and regularly bump into others from Kestrels, it’s always good to catch up. |
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Given recent weather it is a nightmare that there's no realistic alternative "turn up and get kit off" venue..
We were in Brighton at the weekend and it was lovely to spend some time on the nudist beach. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Definitely missing Kestrels
Looking at spending the day/evening at either VA or Eureka's in the near future and hoping they might be similar (fingers crossed emoji)
Mrs x |
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"Definitely missing Kestrels
Looking at spending the day/evening at either VA or Eureka's in the near future and hoping they might be similar (fingers crossed emoji)
Mrs x"
Unfortunately (Mrs) there isn't Eureka is good but if it rains there isn't much room inside if there are 200 people there...... |
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"Definitely missing Kestrels
Looking at spending the day/evening at either VA or Eureka's in the near future and hoping they might be similar (fingers crossed emoji)
Mrs x
Unfortunately (Mrs) there isn't Eureka is good but if it rains there isn't much room inside if there are 200 people there...... "
Ah! 
Will definately be doing some more research then. Our days off together are rare and I want to find a venue which is relaxing, has a pool and we can have fun if we want to.
Mrs x |
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"Definitely missing Kestrels
Looking at spending the day/evening at either VA or Eureka's in the near future and hoping they might be similar (fingers crossed emoji)
Mrs x
Unfortunately (Mrs) there isn't Eureka is good but if it rains there isn't much room inside if there are 200 people there......
Ah!
Will definately be doing some more research then. Our days off together are rare and I want to find a venue which is relaxing, has a pool and we can have fun if we want to.
Mrs x"
We now do Eurekas on a sunny day or Bristol Gardens if it’s not! |
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"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796033/Couple-ran-sex-dungeon-nudist-spa-Surrey-fined-45-000.html
That sucks big time. Hasn't the council had their pound of flesh? "
Seemingly not. I might easily be wrong, but I'd say assuming everything in the article is true, this makes a new venue unlikely.
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I’m gutted for them. Not sure how it’s the proceeds of crime when before the court case re planning kestrels was a council agreed spa club. I’m also saddened to see David’s kids brought into this report and hope they don’t get bullied for it. |
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Bad luck for them.
Such a shame for it to be portrayed as a sex dungeon place rather than what it was for me, a lovely Naturist place to relax in the day with friends. Why are nudity and sex regarded as a bad thing? |
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"I’m gutted for them. Not sure how it’s the proceeds of crime when before the court case re planning kestrels was a council agreed spa club. I’m also saddened to see David’s kids brought into this report and hope they don’t get bullied for it. "
It was only from Jan 2017 till Feb that the comment about the illegal gains not the whole time it was open....just saying |
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"Bad luck for them.
Such a shame for it to be portrayed as a sex dungeon place rather than what it was for me, a lovely Naturist place to relax in the day with friends. Why are nudity and sex regarded as a bad thing? "
Because there are too many narrow minded people about.... the English have always been known for that!!! |
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Putting the rights & wrongs of this to one side there is a lesson to be learnt here. That being that councils who object to clubs and want to shut them down will always get there way and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is more to come before this mess comes to an end. |
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"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796033/Couple-ran-sex-dungeon-nudist-spa-Surrey-fined-45-000.html
That sucks big time. Hasn't the council had their pound of flesh?
Seemingly not. I might easily be wrong, but I'd say assuming everything in the article is true, this makes a new venue unlikely.
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Especially as it sounds like there's more fines to come. |
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By *inkycatWoman
over a year ago
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"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796033/Couple-ran-sex-dungeon-nudist-spa-Surrey-fined-45-000.html
That sucks big time. Hasn't the council had their pound of flesh?
Seemingly not. I might easily be wrong, but I'd say assuming everything in the article is true, this makes a new venue unlikely.
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Might explain why they didn’t go for my suggestion - must have had other stuff on their minds
Such a shame. |
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"Putting the rights & wrongs of this to one side there is a lesson to be learnt here. That being that councils who object to clubs and want to shut them down will always get there way and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is more to come before this mess comes to an end."
Without wanting to get slated here (and before you do, trust me I'm just as disappointed/upset/annoyed as you all are over the closure and missing the place a lot); I'd say the lesson to be learned here is to not knowingly break the law, especially continue to break the law when official notification has been served that this is the case.
Maybe the owners got what seemed like decent legal advice that they stood a good chance of winning, I don't know. However, whatever we think of the council, the owners are at least partially responsible for this happening. You don't build structures without checking you're legally entitled or have permission to do so.
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"Putting the rights & wrongs of this to one side there is a lesson to be learnt here. That being that councils who object to clubs and want to shut them down will always get there way and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is more to come before this mess comes to an end.
Without wanting to get slated here (and before you do, trust me I'm just as disappointed/upset/annoyed as you all are over the closure and missing the place a lot); I'd say the lesson to be learned here is to not knowingly break the law, especially continue to break the law when official notification has been served that this is the case.
Maybe the owners got what seemed like decent legal advice that they stood a good chance of winning, I don't know. However, whatever we think of the council, the owners are at least partially responsible for this happening. You don't build structures without checking you're legally entitled or have permission to do so.
[runs and hides ]"
Haven’t read the latest article as I refuse to have anything to do with the Daily Heil. But as the above poster quite rightly states, the owners of Kestrels flouted the planing laws in more than one occasion and are now paying the heavy price for breaking the law. (We miss the club too, especially in the summer), but if you knowingly break the law you have to accept the consequences. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The final court order giving them a year to shut down which was fairly generous. They have only been fined for ignoring that one which they were silly to do.
We really miss the place whatever the rights and wrongs are. |
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"The final court order giving them a year to shut down which was fairly generous. They have only been fined for ignoring that one which they were silly to do.
We really miss the place whatever the rights and wrongs are."
Was it a year to shut down completely, or just remove the "offending" structures? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The final court order giving them a year to shut down which was fairly generous. They have only been fined for ignoring that one which they were silly to do.
We really miss the place whatever the rights and wrongs are.
Was it a year to shut down completely, or just remove the "offending" structures?"
Either way they didn’t comply! |
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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago
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The Daily Heil love to embellish the truth. Never ones to allow truth get in the way of a good story.
Stanwell Moor a desirable residential area? Really? Directly under the flightpath and next to a busy junction of M25? We still occassionally use Polash , the Indian takeawayin the village, the owner there was telling us thevillage shop and they had really suffered since the club closed. The property was not in the middle of any residential area, it was on the outskirts and never affected anyone. I seem to recall there were no local complaints at the planning enquiry, it was soley a planning permission issue. But who knows.
As for living off the proceeds of crime..... typical clickbait of The Daily Heil.
They are bang out of order to have brought Anne and Davids children into the story though, simply unnecessary and unfair.
I just wish Graham and Anne the very best of luck xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I feel so sorry for both
Graham and Ann, when you see the fines that real violent criminals get you would have thought that they were running a drugs factory. Really it feel so sorry for them both. Thank you for providing Kestrels, I am so sorry that you have been left with this message. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I really doubt the entire machinery of the state is ‘out to get them’. They took a chance taking on the battle, they could have pulled out. "
I hope for their sake that is true. The problem is that they did more than take a chance on winning, they carried on when they had lost. And if you think that the club only took £45k in the 13 months to closing then thats crazy. |
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By *horty4Man
over a year ago
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"I really doubt the entire machinery of the state is ‘out to get them’. They took a chance taking on the battle, they could have pulled out.
I hope for their sake that is true. The problem is that they did more than take a chance on winning, they carried on when they had lost. And if you think that the club only took £45k in the 13 months to closing then thats crazy. "
I can just see MI5 “drop that ISIS dirty bomb operation, a pensioner has built a shed on the green built and people are rolling around in it having sex. The queen has called, take it down she said” |
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"I really doubt the entire machinery of the state is ‘out to get them’. They took a chance taking on the battle, they could have pulled out.
I hope for their sake that is true. The problem is that they did more than take a chance on winning, they carried on when they had lost. And if you think that the club only took £45k in the 13 months to closing then thats crazy.
I can just see MI5 “drop that ISIS dirty bomb operation, a pensioner has built a shed on the green built and people are rolling around in it having sex. The queen has called, take it down she said” "
And now you are just being a bit silly |
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It’s sad times indeed. I do miss the place not just my fetish nights but the community of people who attended. A big loss and I wish the team all the best and Hope sentencing is suspended rather than serving. |
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Agree with most comments however pushing back to the council with poor legal representation there will be only1 winner ( council) we miss it hugely as it became a big part of our social scene and also helped my partner with health issues, and now if looking for an alternative venue the local councils plus surrounding councils will be 0 tolerance
On their opportunity’s if that’s what they intend to do, I feel sad for the owners as they did supply a great service and were good fun people let’s just hope the courts will be lenient as they have been punished financially , yes the law is the law but some of the courts rulings on harsher subjects have been lighter , we all could say it could of been run better but they did what they did with the hand that they were dealt with . |
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It was The best and first Place i have ever visited, Nowhere comes
As close im afraid .. it was the most lovely relaxed non judgemental place for Fun, and the Atmosphere was Superb i always Enjoyed myself and met new Friends . ...  |
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" It was The best and first Place i have ever visited, Nowhere comes
As close im afraid .. it was the most lovely relaxed non judgemental place for Fun, and the Atmosphere was Superb i always Enjoyed myself and met new Friends . ... "
These are exactly the same thoughts I have about Kestrels... Gutted it's gone! |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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"The Daily Heil love to embellish the truth. Never ones to allow truth get in the way of a good story.
Stanwell Moor a desirable residential area? Really? Directly under the flightpath and next to a busy junction of M25? We still occassionally use Polash , the Indian takeawayin the village, the owner there was telling us thevillage shop and they had really suffered since the club closed. The property was not in the middle of any residential area, it was on the outskirts and never affected anyone. I seem to recall there were no local complaints at the planning enquiry, it was soley a planning permission issue. But who knows.
As for living off the proceeds of crime..... typical clickbait of The Daily Heil.
They are bang out of order to have brought Anne and Davids children into the story though, simply unnecessary and unfair.
I just wish Graham and Anne the very best of luck xx"
I believe the site was a commercial vehicle repair/breaker establishment before becoming Kestrels. Perhaps the council should insist on the site returning to such use! |
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"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796033/Couple-ran-sex-dungeon-nudist-spa-Surrey-fined-45-000.html
Such a shame it has come to this. "
I've just seen this online. Absolutely awful isn't it!! There was never any noise or the neighbours being bothered. So much more real crime out there and they chase after these lovely people x |
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By *lovisMan
over a year ago
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"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796033/Couple-ran-sex-dungeon-nudist-spa-Surrey-fined-45-000.html
Such a shame it has come to this.
I've just seen this online. Absolutely awful isn't it!! There was never any noise or the neighbours being bothered. So much more real crime out there and they chase after these lovely people x"
I've always thought that there would be an uproar from locals if they knew how much the whole process has cost them. This seems to be the councils attempt to claw back some of the money so they can say ' yes - it cost us xxx thousand but we got back £45K and we're going for more ' |
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"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796033/Couple-ran-sex-dungeon-nudist-spa-Surrey-fined-45-000.html
Such a shame it has come to this.
I've just seen this online. Absolutely awful isn't it!! There was never any noise or the neighbours being bothered. So much more real crime out there and they chase after these lovely people x"
For some people it was a haven.....I can say that it catered for everyone even ppl with dimentia used to come with their partner for a bit of sun...... |
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"Been super missing Kestrels. Every hot day this year has not been as enjoyable because the option of kestrels isn't there. I'd never thought I'd be so dejected about a swingers spa closing! "
I think your right for all of the people that used to go it was their summer hideaway.....mine included |
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"Been super missing Kestrels. Every hot day this year has not been as enjoyable because the option of kestrels isn't there. I'd never thought I'd be so dejected about a swingers spa closing!
I think your right for all of the people that used to go it was their summer hideaway.....mine included "
We used to nip down for a couple of hours after work, it was perfect for us! |
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"Maybe all the people who used to go there should send into the council their thoughts and start a petition?? "
What would the petition be for though? The owners hadn't got a leg to stand on once they lost their appeal and continued to trade. I agree that it's sad, but they were given very poor legal advice it would seem. |
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"Maybe all the people who used to go there should send into the council their thoughts and start a petition??
What would the petition be for though? The owners hadn't got a leg to stand on once they lost their appeal and continued to trade. I agree that it's sad, but they were given very poor legal advice it would seem. "
I totally agree. Planning made a ruling and the owners went against that ruling and continued to trade. |
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"Maybe all the people who used to go there should send into the council their thoughts and start a petition??
What would the petition be for though? The owners hadn't got a leg to stand on once they lost their appeal and continued to trade. I agree that it's sad, but they were given very poor legal advice it would seem. "
No lawyer would have told them they could defy a court order. That must have been their decision. |
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As I have explained on here before, once the initial planning ruling was appealed the whole process was run through the Planning Inspectorate which is an executive agency of the Department for Communities and Local Government ...
So effectively all costs for the successive appeals were covered by the government and paid from their coffers not the local councils.
The prosecution would however aim to deter future planning infringers by highlighting the cost of ignoring court orders.Tthe majority of the cost of this prosecution were apparently born by the CPS so again not a cost to the council, which is why they could be so dogged/vindictive.
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"Could anyone tell us what the latest news is and Where all the kestrel people have gone as a local alternative?
V sad the other day to discover this news after being away for a few months ??????
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Eurekas private parties or clubs from what I read. |
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"Maybe all the people who used to go there should send into the council their thoughts and start a petition??
What would the petition be for though? The owners hadn't got a leg to stand on once they lost their appeal and continued to trade. I agree that it's sad, but they were given very poor legal advice it would seem.
No lawyer would have told them they could defy a court order. That must have been their decision. "
That's what I would have thought too. Having said that, reading through the 'legal' notices they put up on the perimeter fence a few weeks/months before they closed, it does make me wonder. The style of language used was neither formal (in a legal sense) or even particularly professional in parts! |
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"Bad luck for them.
Such a shame for it to be portrayed as a sex dungeon place rather than what it was for me, a lovely Naturist place to relax in the day with friends. Why are nudity and sex regarded as a bad thing? "
“Kinky” sex sells shitty newspapers - if we didn’t buy them, the world would be a better place. |
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Basically people in Kent are blessed. Not only do they have vastly cheaper house prices compared to likes of Surrey/Middlesex/Bucks.... except for Seven Oaks and Bromley area perhaps, they have a choice of 4 kestrel style clubs to attend during the day.
Eureka, Silverleigh, Dv8 ( nice BBQ apparently) and a spa in Rochester which I cannot mention!!
West of London absolutely fuck all!! East of London it's fuck galore!!! |
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"Basically people in Kent are blessed. Not only do they have vastly cheaper house prices compared to likes of Surrey/Middlesex/Bucks.... except for Seven Oaks and Bromley area perhaps, they have a choice of 4 kestrel style clubs to attend during the day.
Eureka, Silverleigh, Dv8 ( nice BBQ apparently) and a spa in Rochester which I cannot mention!!
West of London absolutely fuck all!! East of London it's fuck galore!!!"
Ooo does DV8 have a pool??? |
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"Any Kestrels mates going to TattyRubx at hellfire this Friday ? Always a great night"
Yep. It will be so good to catch up with kestrels friends whilst partaking in a bit of tomfoolery |
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