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What totally obvious scams do people still fall for
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
Romance scammers that are experienced and play a very long game; over one year before an appropriate level of ingratiation has been achieved, prior to any requests for cash or fabricated crises.
Very long story short: I worked for over three years to bring an elderly guy I know, to his senses.
Eventually the penny did drop, but it was a hell of a struggle; he lost tens of thousands of pounds and it very adversely affected his health.
The scammer was highly skilled, very manipulative and was part of a gang.
The victim is also now on a suckers' list and is being contacted by others, because he was such an easy mark, as targeted victims are known.
The scammers are also often known as perps! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don’t know really. I’m just waiting on my African uncle who died last month to deposit all his life savings (6.4 million pounds!) into my bank.
Luckily they have my deets now. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
A ruse that I have used on several occasions is to play along with the scam, and act faux-naif (the Louis Theroux stance) and when I have learned enough about the scammer's modus operandi, simply blast them out if the water, metaphorically of course.
It is a great learning experience, and the scammer disappears forever wholly embarrassed and humiliated.
And they usually forewarn other scammers in their criminal network, so one's details are not added to any sucker's list!
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"Believing men on here  "
Some men on here are good men.
I'm talking about the men that think messaging and saying you you are beautiful, without any face pics, that they are single and looking for regular meets, just to get into one's knickers would be a complete scam if one believed them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Given the number of fake domme profiles showing up every week with same pictures before they get booted, I am assuming there are people still falling for it. |
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"Those snap filters, I'm yet to meet a single human with animal ears
I can buy some bunny ears if you want 
They need to be stitched on because I want a good tug on them 
Gorilla Glue  "
Didn't you get told not to play with glue, _ad nanna |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"Those snap filters, I'm yet to meet a single human with animal ears
I can buy some bunny ears if you want
They need to be stitched on because I want a good tug on them
Gorilla Glue
Didn't you get told not to play with glue, _ad nanna "
Well, yea, but I'm not called Bad Nanna for nothing  |
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"Those snap filters, I'm yet to meet a single human with animal ears
I can buy some bunny ears if you want
They need to be stitched on because I want a good tug on them
Gorilla Glue
Didn't you get told not to play with glue, _ad nanna
Well, yea, but I'm not called Bad Nanna for nothing "
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The lottery…
People from all walks off life but let’s face it primarily those from working class or less well off backgrounds spending little or more amounts of money on lottery tickets…
Most know it’s a scam anyway but try their luck or hopes on having a long shot chance/odds off striking the big win and taking in huge sums off money…
Reality is though is that the odds are significantly higher in losing you’re money then ever winning something on the lottery..
Ever notice how you rarely see bookmakers in upper class/wealthier areas yet they are many in more deprived or working class areas?
More people gamble then or go casinos with better chances off winning sure but as that old saying is “the house always wins” even if one is on a winning streak or a roll all it takes is a stroke off bad luck and boom it all goes down the toilet…
But people still go back for more for that thrill or chance off winning something next time and get something back to make up for the past losses so long as they feel the odds or luck is in their favour they will keep at it.. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Romance scams are the biggest scams in the world. Apparently £90 billion is lost a year !!  "
I still cannot understand people sending large sums of money to someone who they have never met or have only just met 
But still it keep on happening  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Romance scams are the biggest scams in the world. Apparently £90 billion is lost a year !!
I still cannot understand people sending large sums of money to someone who they have never met or have only just met
But still it keep on happening "
it’s like a grooming process they gain the one who there going to scams trust & tell these women what they want to hear mind I do feel sorry for the ones it have happened to there life savings just taken like that though |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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Thought of another one. Loyalty points.
My Sainsburys shop came with a voucher for "double points next time you spend £35 on fuel".
Given that they give one point per litre and diesel is currently £1.75 per litre, that's a bonus 20 points.
Which I think is worth tuppence.
Yay. That'll go straight in my Winter Heating jar |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Romance scams are the biggest scams in the world. Apparently £90 billion is lost a year !!
I still cannot understand people sending large sums of money to someone who they have never met or have only just met
But still it keep on happening "
My enemies are after me. Send me 10,000£. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Scammers study their prey very carefully and know what works for different categories of people; I recently worked very hard to try to wean an elderly man off a romance scam into which he had been drawn, and which was then expanded to include others who also exploited him.
There are several tactics one can use to avoid being scammed: educate yourself about scams; prepetrators, their targets, the methods used and defensive tactics
Scams are very often just variations of previous scams; learn about the original scam and update the latest iteration.
Some gullible individuals still fall for the old 419 scam from Nigeria, named after the penal code.
For elderly vulnerable people a landline gives good access for scammers, so I would advise getting rid of it for a mobile.
If you have a vulnerable relative or friend then restrict their access to money with their agreement
Scammers are very cunning; they know that there's more than one born every minute!
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"Thinking real swingers use this site and paying for membership?"
The supporters fee isn't a scam. The benefits are clearly laid out and you can choose to pay it or continue using the site free.
https://www.fabswingers.com/supporters |
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"Happy Wednesdays everyone. Top of the hill day .  "
Hello, this is your bank....
You have recently has an accident..
I can't talk here what's you whatsapp/phone etc.
You have an outstanding fine, If you do not buy a gift voucher you will be arrested... |
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"You've got a life insurance that you haven't reviewed yet. Why haven't you reviewed it?" But I'm not going to tell you what company I'm calling from, and when you try asking about the review, I'll just keep repeating myself about the review, in a voice I reserve for dumb people. - that was my most recent experience of potential scam. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
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Ever notice how you rarely see bookmakers in upper class/wealthier areas yet they are many in more deprived or working class areas?
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Horse racing is the last civilian bastion of the class system.
The working classes can be found propping up the bookies all across the country.
The middle and upper classes are prancing around the rac courses, in their Sunday best.
The landed gentry, filthy rich and the like who own several horses and stables and generally hob-nobbing in the royal box or toff's area and raking it in.
Nothing like a bit of stereo typing to while a way a Sunday morning. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
Fundamentally, all scams and the majority of other human activities are just constructs or fabrications which facilitate the exercise of power by one group over another.
Scammers socially engineer themselves into a more advantageous position to exploit the weaker person.
The master, par excellence of social engineering was a guy called Kevin Mitnick
If you can place yourself in a position of having a greater level of valuable information than the scammer, the chances of being scammed are reduced.
Elderly folk are more easily scammed because they be more easily manipulated: more trusting naive, in senile cognitive decline, more pro-social in their attitudes, more responsive to fabricated crises that elicit a fundamental human response
Scammers are predatory psychopaths who are devoid of empathic human emotions
They prey on the weaker, more vulnerable, less savvy members of society to satisfy their greed, and smirk at their victims
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"Fundamentally, all scams and the majority of other human activities are just constructs or fabrications which facilitate the exercise of power by one group over another.
Scammers socially engineer themselves into a more advantageous position to exploit the weaker person.
The master, par excellence of social engineering was a guy called Kevin Mitnick
If you can place yourself in a position of having a greater level of valuable information than the scammer, the chances of being scammed are reduced.
Elderly folk are more easily scammed because they be more easily manipulated: more trusting naive, in senile cognitive decline, more pro-social in their attitudes, more responsive to fabricated crises that elicit a fundamental human response
Scammers are predatory psychopaths who are devoid of empathic human emotions
They prey on the weaker, more vulnerable, less savvy members of society to satisfy their greed, and smirk at their victims
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Sounds like something a scammer would say |
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The message from a young lady who loves ddlg.
I have been a member since 2010 and have a guess out of probably 100 or so chats have actually led to a meet, zero that's right zero.
They may be female, they may be young,they may be guys wanking furiously at the other end, but whatever the truth is they don't meet. Or is it just me lol |
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Ever notice how you rarely see bookmakers in upper class/wealthier areas yet they are many in more deprived or working class areas?
Horse racing is the last civilian bastion of the class system.
The working classes can be found propping up the bookies all across the country.
The middle and upper classes are prancing around the rac courses, in their Sunday best.
The landed gentry, filthy rich and the like who own several horses and stables and generally hob-nobbing in the royal box or toff's area and raking it in.
Nothing like a bit of stereo typing to while a way a Sunday morning."
Bookmaking for wealthy clients is a huge business. I know of several high end bookmakers who will regularly take a £million+ single bet. These types of clients don’t put that money on down at the high street shop.
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"Thinking real swingers use this site and paying for membership?
The supporters fee isn't a scam. The benefits are clearly laid out and you can choose to pay it or continue using the site free.
https://www.fabswingers.com/supporters"
Totally agree  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Romance scams are the biggest scams in the world. Apparently £90 billion is lost a year !!
I still cannot understand people sending large sums of money to someone who they have never met or have only just met
But still it keep on happening
My enemies are after me. Send me 10,000£."
I had a lad working for me who was scammed twice for entry into the UK, had children with both women and they just disappeared once their right to stay was issued.
Last I heard of him, he was involved with a lady from the US to whom he had proposed. I'm pretty sire that her litany of health issues and awaited surgeries weren't the driver for her UK citizenship!! |
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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago
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"The message from a young lady who loves ddlg.
I have been a member since 2010 and have a guess out of probably 100 or so chats have actually led to a meet, zero that's right zero.
They may be female, they may be young,they may be guys wanking furiously at the other end, but whatever the truth is they don't meet. Or is it just me lol"
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I’ll never know how anyone could fall for a romance scam. It’s cringeworthy listening to some of the stories you here.
First and foremost anyone can come across however they want online so that alone should ring alarm bells.
We’ve never been caught by any scam but know people who nearly did. I scrutinise everything and anything. They generally pick on the elderly and vulnerable. |
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"The call out fee some trades people charge. Just extortionate "
Come on now how can that be a scam. It’s expensive granted so we would never call anyone out unless it was crucial. We’ve had the boiler pack up of a weekend so put extra laters on and waited until Monday.
They need to earn a living and you are calling them out to do a job out of hours. You are using their time. Do you really think they want to be called out when they could be doing their own thing. They sacrifice down time to deal with your emergency. |
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"I’ll never know how anyone could fall for a romance scam. It’s cringeworthy listening to some of the stories you here.
First and foremost anyone can come across however they want online so that alone should ring alarm bells.
We’ve never been caught by any scam but know people who nearly did. I scrutinise everything and anything. They generally pick on the elderly and vulnerable. "
Having dementia (like my Dad) renders a person liable to be scammed in the most obvious ways. It's very difficult to prevent, short of shutting your relative into a hermetically sealed box with no phone etc. My Dad has been scammed several times (not romance ones, but "obvious" scams to people who have their mental faculties intact). |
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"I’ll never know how anyone could fall for a romance scam. It’s cringeworthy listening to some of the stories you here.
First and foremost anyone can come across however they want online so that alone should ring alarm bells.
We’ve never been caught by any scam but know people who nearly did. I scrutinise everything and anything. They generally pick on the elderly and vulnerable. "
I hope I never feel so desperately lonely to fall prey to a romance scam. I recently watched the sixth commandment |
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"Nothing is obvious if your mental capacity is compromised.
Exactly.
My mum was victim of the same scam twice.
Never feel complacent even if your mental capacity isn't compromised. "
Indeed. Scammers actively work on techniques to override our suspicion.
There but the grace of God go I sort of thing. |
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"I’ll never know how anyone could fall for a romance scam. It’s cringeworthy listening to some of the stories you here.
First and foremost anyone can come across however they want online so that alone should ring alarm bells.
We’ve never been caught by any scam but know people who nearly did. I scrutinise everything and anything. They generally pick on the elderly and vulnerable.
I hope I never feel so desperately lonely to fall prey to a romance scam. I recently watched the sixth commandment "
It's loneliness that these people prey on. A friend big my mother's has been systematically bled dry over thirty years. Everyone warned her and on some level I think she knew what was going on but preferred the illusion to her reality. |
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"Nothing is obvious if your mental capacity is compromised.
Exactly.
My mum was victim of the same scam twice.
Never feel complacent even if your mental capacity isn't compromised.
Indeed. Scammers actively work on techniques to override our suspicion.
There but the grace of God go I sort of thing."
Yep. |
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By *arkus1812Man 35 weeks ago
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My elderly neighbour received a call from someone purporting to be her daughter, after a few more softening up calls the said daughter asked for a loan of £3800 to buy a computer, my neighbour told her that she would have to ask her brother as he has power of attorny, the daughter replied that she did not have a brother to which my neighbour responded by saying that she never had a daughter. The phone went dead. |
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"Nothing is obvious if your mental capacity is compromised.
Exactly.
My mum was victim of the same scam twice.
Never feel complacent even if your mental capacity isn't compromised.
Indeed. Scammers actively work on techniques to override our suspicion.
There but the grace of God go I sort of thing.
Yep. "
Many scams work on either fear or greed combined with urgency . It’s very well known that even the smartest people can fall for this because your decision making gets all messed up. I used to work in IT and client left me a voicemail saying Microsoft had called him about a virus ending with I’m sure it’s sorted now but just wanted to let you know . And then less than 2 minutes later he left another VM realising he’d been scammed and couldn’t believe how stupid he’d been but that’s how it works - fear and urgency has a massive hit rate. |
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"Nothing is obvious if your mental capacity is compromised.
Exactly.
My mum was victim of the same scam twice.
Never feel complacent even if your mental capacity isn't compromised.
Indeed. Scammers actively work on techniques to override our suspicion.
There but the grace of God go I sort of thing.
Yep.
Many scams work on either fear or greed combined with urgency . It’s very well known that even the smartest people can fall for this because your decision making gets all messed up. I used to work in IT and client left me a voicemail saying Microsoft had called him about a virus ending with I’m sure it’s sorted now but just wanted to let you know . And then less than 2 minutes later he left another VM realising he’d been scammed and couldn’t believe how stupid he’d been but that’s how it works - fear and urgency has a massive hit rate."
I'm not saying it's universally successful, but my rule of life - it started with chuggers and has expanded out is, if you approach me, my answer is no.
Can you give to Save the Harvard Frat Boy? no.
Can I help you fix your computer? no.
Are you interested in...? no.
If I'm concerned that there is something wrong with my computer or I might be interested in the plight of the frat boy, I might find them myself, but if you contact me cold, the answer is no. |
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"I’ll never know how anyone could fall for a romance scam. It’s cringeworthy listening to some of the stories you here.
First and foremost anyone can come across however they want online so that alone should ring alarm bells.
We’ve never been caught by any scam but know people who nearly did. I scrutinise everything and anything. They generally pick on the elderly and vulnerable.
Having dementia (like my Dad) renders a person liable to be scammed in the most obvious ways. It's very difficult to prevent, short of shutting your relative into a hermetically sealed box with no phone etc. My Dad has been scammed several times (not romance ones, but "obvious" scams to people who have their mental faculties intact)."
I can imagine. It’s generally the elder generation who fall victim and it’s scary not just for them but for their families because you can’t help but worry about their welfare.
I think also the older generation are too trusting because Kat’s grandparent received a telephone call from someone pretending to be from BT. They said there was an internet problem and so on. They were just about to go along with it until her father realised what was happening and snatched the phone and gave them a bollocking. They kept trying again because once someone falls victim they prey all the more. |
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"I’ll never know how anyone could fall for a romance scam. It’s cringeworthy listening to some of the stories you here.
First and foremost anyone can come across however they want online so that alone should ring alarm bells.
We’ve never been caught by any scam but know people who nearly did. I scrutinise everything and anything. They generally pick on the elderly and vulnerable.
Having dementia (like my Dad) renders a person liable to be scammed in the most obvious ways. It's very difficult to prevent, short of shutting your relative into a hermetically sealed box with no phone etc. My Dad has been scammed several times (not romance ones, but "obvious" scams to people who have their mental faculties intact).
I can imagine. It’s generally the elder generation who fall victim and it’s scary not just for them but for their families because you can’t help but worry about their welfare.
I think also the older generation are too trusting because Kat’s grandparent received a telephone call from someone pretending to be from BT. They said there was an internet problem and so on. They were just about to go along with it until her father realised what was happening and snatched the phone and gave them a bollocking. They kept trying again because once someone falls victim they prey all the more. "
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The thing about scams is they're all totally obvious...until they're not and you fall for one.
We've got my dad to the stage now where he won't give any information at all on the phone and he shows us any letters of emails he gets from banks etc. |
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"The thing about scams is they're all totally obvious...until they're not and you fall for one.
We've got my dad to the stage now where he won't give any information at all on the phone and he shows us any letters of emails he gets from banks etc."
My Dad forgets to do those things, mostly  |
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"The thing about scams is they're all totally obvious...until they're not and you fall for one.
We've got my dad to the stage now where he won't give any information at all on the phone and he shows us any letters of emails he gets from banks etc.
My Dad forgets to do those things, mostly "
That's the problem. My dad has full (ish) capacity. He's naive about some things and will blindly trust 'authority' but that's not new. We drummed into him that he must never give sensitive details to anyone after he told us that if the bank rings you have to give them your pin number and pass word.
We drummed it into my mum too but unfortunately she forgot and that coupled with her desire not to be rude and to conceal the how bad things really were meant she was very vulnerable. |
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"The thing about scams is they're all totally obvious...until they're not and you fall for one.
We've got my dad to the stage now where he won't give any information at all on the phone and he shows us any letters of emails he gets from banks etc.
My Dad forgets to do those things, mostly
That's the problem. My dad has full (ish) capacity. He's naive about some things and will blindly trust 'authority' but that's not new. We drummed into him that he must never give sensitive details to anyone after he told us that if the bank rings you have to give them your pin number and pass word.
We drummed it into my mum too but unfortunately she forgot and that coupled with her desire not to be rude and to conceal the how bad things really were meant she was very vulnerable."
We try to monitor Dad's stuff as often as we can, considering he lives over an hour away. It's so hard
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"The thing about scams is they're all totally obvious...until they're not and you fall for one.
We've got my dad to the stage now where he won't give any information at all on the phone and he shows us any letters of emails he gets from banks etc.
My Dad forgets to do those things, mostly
That's the problem. My dad has full (ish) capacity. He's naive about some things and will blindly trust 'authority' but that's not new. We drummed into him that he must never give sensitive details to anyone after he told us that if the bank rings you have to give them your pin number and pass word.
We drummed it into my mum too but unfortunately she forgot and that coupled with her desire not to be rude and to conceal the how bad things really were meant she was very vulnerable.
We try to monitor Dad's stuff as often as we can, considering he lives over an hour away. It's so hard
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You and I can only do so much. |
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Maybe not obvious but vet bills. Paid 90 odd quid for a 10min consult and some cream today and I'm still livid thinking about it.
I looked up the cream and it was £10-12. They charged £40 for it. It would have been even more if I'd taken a bacterial wash you can buy over the counter.
A prescription and buying it online would have cost £25 total. |
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