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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

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By *till gameMan  over a year ago

Oldham

Could have sworn it was the uk that left the eu ?

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news"

England left the EU?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

"

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe "

Wait, WHAT!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe "

We definitely left the EU ...but we definitely didn't leave Europe...

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By *lder budweiserMan  over a year ago

Stirlingshire

Politics forum please, Moderators

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe "

Tom, What about Scotland and Wales? What did they do?

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS  over a year ago

lanson


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England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe "

Wasn't it the UK that left the EU..

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news"

The European broadcasting union predates the EU by a long long way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags."

Well I'll call this one out: only participating nation flags, the rainbow and the pride flags. They don't allow Palestinian flags. Still strange that they say they're apolitical but have banned Russia. That's not happened in the past afaik.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Politics forum please, Moderators "

Actually… no… this is where a history lesson may be in order….

The EBU is made up of public service broadcasters all across Europe and has associate members all over the world

To be honest.. without the EBU…. You would have had no pan European coverage of for example the Olympics, or the World Cup/euros

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By *till gameMan  over a year ago

Oldham

Obviously a deliberate trigger to try and attract attention to his post, must be a sun newspaper reader

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

As long as they don't mess with the TDF coverage

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politics forum please, Moderators

Actually… no… this is where a history lesson may be in order….

The EBU is made up of public service broadcasters all across Europe and has associate members all over the world

To be honest.. without the EBU…. You would have had no pan European coverage of for example the Olympics, or the World Cup/euros"

I can appreciate The Euro cup, but Olympics or World Cup? Surely that'll be a remit of the Worldwide Broadcasting Union?

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By *rixie_BlondeWoman  over a year ago

London (She/Her)


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe

Tom, What about Scotland and Wales? What did they do?"

They’re still in the EU, obviously, along with NI. Which is why there hadn’t been any border tension spilling over in NI over these past few years

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe "

England is still in Europe.

And I’m pretty sure it was the UK that left the EU, not England on its own.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe

Tom, What about Scotland and Wales? What did they do?"

… and Northern Ireland

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies"

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

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By *idnight RamblerMan  over a year ago

Pershore

Why does a trade bloc need a flag? Come to think of it why do they need an anthem, a president, a parliament, courts, judges, overseas ambassadors ....? Almost sounds like it's own country eh?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

"

Yes Glyn. Keep up !

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By *endalshaggersCouple  over a year ago

Lake District

The UK GEOGRAPHICALLY is still in the continent of Europe wether the "bloc" likes it or not. Whilst I'm not certain it was the wisest move the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang".

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS  over a year ago

lanson


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

Yes Glyn. Keep up !"

Well what do you expect - the farming industry did vote leave....irony at it's purest....

Anyway, I'm sure the UK government will replace the EU funding streams with some equally generous successor scheme's of their own...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The UK GEOGRAPHICALLY is still in the continent of Europe wether the "bloc" likes it or not. Whilst I'm not certain it was the wisest move the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang". "

Agreed and they are trying to punish England ever since. The new tariffs are a prime example

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By *lynJMan  over a year ago

Morden


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

Yes Glyn. Keep up !"

Why would they subsidise our farmers. We left the EU.

Similarly, we're not subsidising their farmers any longer either.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

Yes Glyn. Keep up !

Well what do you expect - the farming industry did vote leave....irony at it's purest....

Anyway, I'm sure the UK government will replace the EU funding streams with some equally generous successor scheme's of their own... "

I'm so glad we have that £300 million extra every week for our NHS. We're finally swimming in cash!

Any minute.... Now.

I said .... Now.

Ok.... Now.

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By *icolerobbieCouple  over a year ago

walsall


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

Yes Glyn. Keep up !

Why would they subsidise our farmers. We left the EU.

Similarly, we're not subsidising their farmers any longer either."

But they still want our cider and strawberries….we shall fight them in the fields and we shall fight them in the orchards!

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"The UK GEOGRAPHICALLY is still in the continent of Europe wether the "bloc" likes it or not. Whilst I'm not certain it was the wisest move the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang".

Agreed and they are trying to punish England ever since. The new tariffs are a prime example"

England?

Again?

As others have pointed out, the UK left the EU, not England on her own.

As you have said to others, “keep up”

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By *onameyet2Man  over a year ago

chorley


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

Yes Glyn. Keep up !

Why would they subsidise our farmers. We left the EU.

Similarly, we're not subsidising their farmers any longer either."

Do we subsidise farmers or mainly rich Tory landowners?

Just asking!

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By *till gameMan  over a year ago

Oldham


"The UK GEOGRAPHICALLY is still in the continent of Europe wether the "bloc" likes it or not. Whilst I'm not certain it was the wisest move the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang".

Agreed and they are trying to punish England ever since. The new tariffs are a prime example

England?

Again?

As others have pointed out, the UK left the EU, not England on her own.

As you have said to others, “keep up” "

It’s deliberate mate, he is just trying get a rise from people, I’d just ignore him

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By *ark73XXXMan  over a year ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire

My advice is to ignore these threads

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"My advice is to ignore these threads "

But you just commented ...

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man  over a year ago

BRIDPORT


"My advice is to ignore these threads

But you just commented ... "

The draw is too strong Tom, they just can’t resist

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By *ark73XXXMan  over a year ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"My advice is to ignore these threads

But you just commented ... "

I commented on the posting not the content

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"My advice is to ignore these threads

But you just commented ...

I commented on the posting not the content "

Why comment at all?

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By *ark73XXXMan  over a year ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"My advice is to ignore these threads

But you just commented ...

I commented on the posting not the content

Why comment at all?"

Why post at all?

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By *ulfilthmentMan  over a year ago

Here and there


"The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags.

Well I'll call this one out: only participating nation flags, the rainbow and the pride flags. They don't allow Palestinian flags. Still strange that they say they're apolitical but have banned Russia. That's not happened in the past afaik."

They banned Russia because of oppression of national broadcasters’ employees and state censorship of their output.

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By *iddlesticksMan  over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe "

Are we now in Asia, I hope so, I’d like to be in China.

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By *allipygousMan  over a year ago

Leicester


"My advice is to ignore these threads

But you just commented ...

I commented on the posting not the content

Why comment at all?

Why post at all? "

Mark73 and Still game, give up and stop trying to have the last word, Mark73

The fact you felt the need to comment on something you're telling folk to ignore and then defend yourselves is funny as fuck. Especially you Mark73

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By *ark73XXXMan  over a year ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"My advice is to ignore these threads

But you just commented ...

I commented on the posting not the content

Why comment at all?

Why post at all?

Mark73 and Still game, give up and stop trying to have the last word, Mark73

The fact you felt the need to comment on something you're telling folk to ignore and then defend yourselves is funny as fuck. Especially you Mark73 "

Strange message - all the best to you

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By *mma29Couple  over a year ago

wirral

I'm going to ignore these posts by commenting on them each day its the only way.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"And these buggers have ended the farming subsidies

Tom, do you mean the EU has stopped subsidising UK farmers?

Yes Glyn. Keep up !

Why would they subsidise our farmers. We left the EU.

Similarly, we're not subsidising their farmers any longer either.

Do we subsidise farmers or mainly rich Tory landowners?

Just asking!"

Farmers

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo


"

Careful, you’re not allowed to criticise him!

"

You are not allowed to attack people no...which is not the same as critising a post which is allowed. The post you quoted attacked the poster which is against forum rules.

https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules

Your post implies Tom has special treatment. He doesn't.

Back to the OP

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By *ylonseeker2023Man  over a year ago

Harwich

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By *ylonseeker2023Man  over a year ago

Harwich


"Could have sworn it was the uk that left the eu ?"

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By *erry bull1Man  over a year ago

doncaster


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe "

England is still a European country , it is no longer a member of the European Union

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By *batMan  over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"..... the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang". "

In what way?

Can you give any examples of EU bitterness towards the UK?

Gbat

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"..... the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang".

In what way?

Can you give any examples of EU bitterness towards the UK?

Gbat "

Yes

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By *idnight RamblerMan  over a year ago

Pershore


"..... the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang".

In what way?

Can you give any examples of EU bitterness towards the UK?

Gbat "

They are stealing our sand eels and our Puffins are dying.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

They are punishing us...

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By *ermbiMan  over a year ago

Ballyshannon


"..... the EU seem very bitter to those who don't want to "be in their gang".

In what way?

Can you give any examples of EU bitterness towards the UK?

Gbat

They are stealing our sand eels and our Puffins are dying. "

If that is bitterness we are all doomed. Get a grip.

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By *batMan  over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"They are punishing us..."

How?

Gbat

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Not one EU country voted for the English Song Batty.

That is punishment

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"They are punishing us..."

How?

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"Not one EU country voted for the English Song Batty.

That is punishment

"

That wasn’t an eu decision.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"The Eurovision say they allow the Pride Rainbow flag. "

In contrast, our Government said this week that Civil Servants are not allowed to wear Pride rainbow lanyards.

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By *allipygousMan  over a year ago

Leicester


"The Eurovision say they allow the Pride Rainbow flag.

In contrast, our Government said this week that Civil Servants are not allowed to wear Pride rainbow lanyards. "

But why should they be allowed to, Sally? You can't walk around with a lanyard showing your political affiliation, why should a rainbow lanyard be allowed?

Looking for open debate, not a slanging match. Block buttons are optional

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

I think a rainbow lanyard shows support for equality for all genders and sexualities so is a welcoming gesture, not political.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"I think a rainbow lanyard shows support for equality for all genders and sexualities so is a welcoming gesture, not political. "

That’s my take on it too

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By *xmcdTV/TS  over a year ago

Wrexham


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe

Wait, WHAT!! "

So where is England now?

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By *xmcdTV/TS  over a year ago

Wrexham


"Not one EU country voted for the English Song Batty.

That is punishment

"

How many votes did the Welsh song get? I bet it was a million

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

The only lanyards worn should be the ones provided by your company. You will not have a claim if you do not wear the official one and something happens like the lanyard being caught on the lift doors

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By *allipygousMan  over a year ago

Leicester


"I think a rainbow lanyard shows support for equality for all genders and sexualities so is a welcoming gesture, not political. "

It's lost its original meaning and has been hijacked. I'd agree it has no place in the workplace.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reports that EU officials want heads to roll and resignations over this.

It's only a bloomin flag FFS.

It it were not for Essex Tom most people would not have known it was not there...

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"Reports that senior managers in the EU are unhappy that Eurovision do not allow the EU flag to be flown. They believe that it fuels Eurosceptic nations such as England who left Europe completely and are no longer part of it. The Eurovision say they allow nation flags and the Pride Rainbow flag. They do not allow political flags. Surprisingly Eurovision is not run by the EU at all so why should their flag be there ? It's all over the news

England left the EU?

Yes. It was a few years back but there was a big vote and England left the EU. England are no longer in Europe

Wait, WHAT!!

So where is England now? "

Just right of wales, just below Scotland, just above France. In Europe

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By *ggdrasil66Man  over a year ago

Saltdean

We are not in the EU, thank god. But we are still Europeans. Always will be, nothing wrong with that.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tom prefers the word 'Continentals'. We are an island off Europe. They are Continentals.

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By *ggdrasil66Man  over a year ago

Saltdean

Our Islands used to be part of mainland (or continental) Europe. Over hundreds of millions of years, the tectonic plates have moved us away, hence we became islands.

More useless information, feel free to yawn.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Yes. Dinosaurs could walk freely between England and France as could early man presumably. The Dorset coast is full of dinosaur bones. When we became an island presumably dinosaurs were hunted to extinction as mankind discovered how to make fire and to cook meat. They also discovered how to preserve meat with sea salt.

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