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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Been reading an online report about how police in Sweden have suggested that women shouldn't go out at night for fear of being sexually assaulted by migrants. Reportedly Sweden has taken in more migrants than other European countries with a significant rise in sex attacks being seen. One report stated that four men tried to grope a ten year old at a bus stop. Given that the source is the Express, should we dismiss the story as right wing rhetoric - or is this, given the attacks in Germany over the New Year, clear indication that the mass migration we are seeing in Europe can't - and won't - be workable?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The problem should never be about women going out .. The problem is always that any sex attackers whatever their ethnic background should NEVER assault anyone.

It's the men that need educating not the women although of course it makes sense for women to take precautions to protect themselves as much as possible

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The problem should never be about women going out .. The problem is always that any sex attackers whatever their ethnic background should NEVER assault anyone.

It's the men that need educating not the women although of course it makes sense for women to take precautions to protect themselves as much as possible "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is just the tip of the iceberg mark my words

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Have any offenders been caught and prosecuted thus proving that it's immigrants carrying out the offences? Sounds like media spin so far.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is the problem with all the right wing bullshit, most if it has no truth to it what so ever, and is believed by millions of face fuckers everywhere, its like some twisted version of the boy who cried wolf.

I personaly find it hard to believe anything the likes of Britain first says, but the danger is that people like myself could read a story and see it as right wing propaganda, and end up in danger.

It's tiring to have to research every story to get to the truth, and sometimes its almost impossible to substantiate the claims made, they're not putting Britain first, they are putting Britain in danger, I love my country, I live my flag, I enjoy the freedom of speech that previous generations gave their lives to uphold, but when these dick heads are trying to use those rights to stir up racial hatred, its like they are pissing on the graves of every dead soldier since ww1, I have nothing but contempt for them.

As for the story of migrants comiting crimes, I just don't know, but me nit kiwi.g is better than believing any old shit that's put out there on the internet, because if your going to do that, you are going to have to believe that every "single" male on fab is truly single, and hasn't git a wife at home.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was attack by a person on the site a few weeks ago ,for some reason he turned on me and punched me in the ribs ,he has deleted his account ,makes me wonder he has done it before ,I did ask my friend in Blue what can I do ,he said not a lot

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

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There are serious problems in Sweden and Germany with immigrants attacking young females especially at music festivals. The authorities have been accused of covering up these attacks fearing reprisals and racist attacks against innocent asylum seekers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's not just Express rhetoric, but I'm sure it's going to be reported in the most sensational way possible. There are classes being set up in Germany covering such basics as "women in this country are allowed to wear what they want and marry what they want".

It's the perhaps inevitable result of rapid immigration of (predominantly) young men without their families, who have a completely different attitude to women. There would probably be problems if huge gangs of young British men were dropped into a culturally different country all at once without their mams.

It's not unsolvable, but I don't think getting women to change their behaviour is the answer.

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

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"It's not just Express rhetoric, but I'm sure it's going to be reported in the most sensational way possible. There are classes being set up in Germany covering such basics as "women in this country are allowed to wear what they want and marry what they want".

It's the perhaps inevitable result of rapid immigration of (predominantly) young men without their families, who have a completely different attitude to women. There would probably be problems if huge gangs of young British men were dropped into a culturally different country all at once without their mams.

It's not unsolvable, but I don't think getting women to change their behaviour is the answer. "

You only have to look at Benidorm to see what it could be like

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was attack by a person on the site a few weeks ago ,for some reason he turned on me and punched me in the ribs ,he has deleted his account ,makes me wonder he has done it before ,I did ask my friend in Blue what can I do ,he said not a lot "

Hope you're ok now xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was attack by a person on the site a few weeks ago ,for some reason he turned on me and punched me in the ribs ,he has deleted his account ,makes me wonder he has done it before ,I did ask my friend in Blue what can I do ,he said not a lot "

Did you report it to the police , as that is assault. Doesn't matter how you met him , it is a crime.

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By *rnortholtMan  over a year ago

Waveney Valley & London

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was attack by a person on the site a few weeks ago ,for some reason he turned on me and punched me in the ribs ,he has deleted his account ,makes me wonder he has done it before ,I did ask my friend in Blue what can I do ,he said not a lot

Did you report it to the police , as that is assault. Doesn't matter how you met him , it is a crime. "

this... As you should have been seen. And all injuries noted and then let them deal with it

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By *rnortholtMan  over a year ago

Waveney Valley & London

Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's a very real concern in Sweden. Was chatting away on Skype recently to a friend who talked in depth about his small town.

Will be solved by not burying heads in the sand while screaming racism. It needs people educating and real investment rather than leave people walking the streets bored.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!"

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies"

I'm sorry for using the words twats, and thrusting there, my auto correct is a pervert

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies"

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Should we also therefore discount positive immigration stories as utter bollocks made up by the regressive left!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I see the Express mentions an attack on a 10 yr old girl. An 8 yr old girl was molested in a Greggs in the UK recently.

If they reported both stories than they aren't biased.

I do tend to think newspapers have a few agendas; to make money, and to pander to what they think people want to hear, and to promote certain ways of thinking.

You'd be better off getting actual news from the source and in this day and age it's completely possible to, several sources is better to get different view points.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Th headline contradicts the story btw, so this for me suggests false reporting and not a credible source. So d the pictures, and i do believe they have sensationalised a fairly important issue for their own agenda.

Although the story itself doesn't give me any reason to doubt what is being said, other things ruin that stories credibility.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The crime may or may not have happened my problem is does this news paper report all the crime in Sweden? It seems to me that the paper is picking certain stories to relay its message

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS  over a year ago

Larne


"I was attack by a person on the site a few weeks ago ,for some reason he turned on me and punched me in the ribs ,he has deleted his account ,makes me wonder he has done it before ,I did ask my friend in Blue what can I do ,he said not a lot "

Surely that is untrue can the site not give up his ip address ?

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

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The original story has been highlighted by women's groups not right wing groups and I have both heard the accounts and read the testaments of eye witnesses and victims

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The crime may or may not have happened my problem is does this news paper report all the crime in Sweden? It seems to me that the paper is picking certain stories to relay its message"
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The truth is actually the opposite.

Most of sexual immigration crimes have been swept under the carpet for a long time by the current govs in both Germany and Sweden, they were how shall we say worried about right wing parties gaining support, that sounds like there caring but in reality, they were just worried about losing political seats to them!.

Personally if you have a certain cultural religious aspect coming in waves by immigration/refugee(this particular problem was known about for a long time, there's an Egyptian film that won a few awards awhile back that pointed to where this particular crime originates from) that and the gov knew there would be certain crimes committed by them because of the difference in backgrounds and then did nothing and shouted down people pointing out the problems as racist, then thar government is culpable surely!.

Finland, Sweden and Norway have all now recently started classes for immigrants, making sure they absolutely know the differences in cultural backgrounds

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies.

Should we also therefore discount positive immigration stories as utter bollocks made up by the regressive left!"

I think what is very clear is that the politically correct left have tried for many, many years now to shut down any debate about immigration by screaming accusations of bigot, xenophobia, or racist to people who express concerns. Gordon Brown called a life long Labour supporter a "bigoted woman" in Rochdale during the general election campaign in 2010 when she asked him a question about mass immigration from the EU, he didn't realise his microphone was still on when he got back in the car, lol.

Even the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby said today in the news it is NOT racist to talk about problems or concerns with immigration.

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By *rnortholtMan  over a year ago

Waveney Valley & London


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies.

Should we also therefore discount positive immigration stories as utter bollocks made up by the regressive left!

I think what is very clear is that the politically correct left have tried for many, many years now to shut down any debate about immigration by screaming accusations of bigot, xenophobia, or racist to people who express concerns. Gordon Brown called a life long Labour supporter a "bigoted woman" in Rochdale during the general election campaign in 2010 when she asked him a question about mass immigration from the EU, he didn't realise his microphone was still on when he got back in the car, lol.

Even the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby said today in the news it is NOT racist to talk about problems or concerns with immigration. "

Widespread change is bound to cause concern, whether it's plans to build a new rail line like HS2, changes to the courts like the current closure of magistrates, increased Sunday trading hours or the biggest of them all at the moment, the mass movement of people into Europe.

All sorts of people will comment with their own agendas, but most people here seem to indicate a sensible conversation can be had which is very reassuring.

On a perhaps more important note to members of this community, the police will take seriously the attack on any member. As I've said elsewhere, they're currently investigating those who've been targeting members of the sister site Fab Guys, arranging meets and hen robbing people, so please if you have been a victim of crime through swinging, do report it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My son was on a night out in Southampton while on Christmas leave. Two eastern Europeans tried to mug him. They learned a lesson that night. Never try to mug a paratrooper !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies.

Should we also therefore discount positive immigration stories as utter bollocks made up by the regressive left!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies.

Should we also therefore discount positive immigration stories as utter bollocks made up by the regressive left!

I think what is very clear is that the politically correct left have tried for many, many years now to shut down any debate about immigration by screaming accusations of bigot, xenophobia, or racist to people who express concerns. Gordon Brown called a life long Labour supporter a "bigoted woman" in Rochdale during the general election campaign in 2010 when she asked him a question about mass immigration from the EU, he didn't realise his microphone was still on when he got back in the car, lol.

Even the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby said today in the news it is NOT racist to talk about problems or concerns with immigration. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think.my point has been lost in a cycle if left wing right wing pc gone mad, not pc enough crap.

What I'm saying is don't buy into the media hype, and be careful what you believe on the internet, the whole reason that pc has gone mad, is because racism was such a problem in the 70s and early 80s that people started bringing out rules, and those rules didn't work, we are an island people, and as such get jittery if we think we are being invaded, I get that, but by making the people of thus country fear migrants, you make the people hate migrants. And when you make people hate another section of society. Those people defend themselves, and then it escelates into rioting it worse, you get Hitlers Germany.

All I'm saying us stop and think, before you get angry about anything that you read on the internet, if something is not quite right, it over the top, look for the source of the item, I have traced stories back to fake face book accounts, that have no history weeks before the story, I've seen items apparently released by the nhs, that are nothing to do with the nhs at all, the people who are making up these "news" stories are clever, they.know how to give a legitimate spin to it all, its called the art of putting truth in a lie, and they know that most won't challenge it or have enough doubt to do anything but believe the story.

My main point is, with all the lies out there, when something bad happens, some will nit be prepared, we owe it to ourselves to have the truth, to look for it, and nit let these bullshiters get away with it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sadly Butler, it's not all nonsense.

I'm sure there is some spin but you only have to look at what happened at Bassingbourn, where Libyan military cadets were involved in a series of male and female rapes to see that it's not purely media or right wing tosh.

There were several documented attacks in Egypt's Taria Square during it occupation in the "Arab Spring."

If you've come from somewhere where the rule of law has broken down after years where the state has shown a lack of respect for its own people combined sometimes with cultural/religious overtones, then the result is what's been happening in some parts of Europe recently.

But before anyone goes all Trump on Islam, remember it wasn't that long ago that any north European woman visiting Catholic Italy, was almost guaranteed to get her bottom pinched!

No its nit all.nonsense, and twats the problem, there was a story a couple if months ago, about a soldier bring turned away from a Tesco store, because he was in uniform, I looked into thrusting story, and there isn't even a Tesco store in the location stated, let alone, one where a soldier was turned away, it was made up, I read some if the comments under the story, and it was just vile hatred, just as I suspect it was designed to do.

What I am saying is, these stories cloud the while issue for everyone, I'm hesitant to believe negative stories about migration, and some if it turns out to be true, but the reason for my doubt in the first place is because there are so many lies.

Should we also therefore discount positive immigration stories as utter bollocks made up by the regressive left!"

No I'm saying if you don't think that a "positive" story is real, research it, and go back to the source, and if indeed it is a load if shite, then you have every right to publicly call them out in it, and demand that they either defend it, or retract it.

I've found one if those too, a group if Muslims supposedly cleaning up after the riots in london, the picture the showed looked odd, so u looked into it, the photo was taken from a piece about community service lol

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