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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms. "
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
"Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we."How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms. ", ah, but it is the will of ‘some’ people though | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once. "But they have been going on strike though. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
"Is this the Brexit you voted for?? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
"Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then! I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too! 
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
"Good on them then. If the UK has become dependent on French customs for their unicorn dream to work, hats off to the gammons. It looks like we have given control to the French. You couldn’t make it up. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
"So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing? Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?"Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. "you really sound like you hate this island | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Good on them then. If the UK has become dependent on French customs for their unicorn dream to work, hats off to the gammons. It looks like we have given control to the French. You couldn’t make it up. "When did France leave the eurozone ? Did we blink and miss it or did they not chose the euro and keep their own currency ? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island "In fairness it used to be great place here. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here."yet you still live here ? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?"We lost the right to live in other countries just recently. You might have seen something about it in the news. | |||
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"(It was just a crappy pun. I'm surprised the thread's turned into random arguments. Then again... this is fab.)" I believe it’ll be on the hafct terms ( huvnae a feckin clue terms ) sadly . | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
"no just 27 mate | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
no just 27 mate "Yeah we could move there freely. Now we can't. And surely you're not actually saying that everyone here has to comply quietly or leave the country! | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
no just 27 mate
Yeah we could move there freely. Now we can't.
And surely you're not actually saying that everyone here has to comply quietly or leave the country!
"no I was replying to one guy mate read back | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. "The french know how to strike, they don't stand outside waving banners. The air traffic controllers went on strike, they stood on the runway to grind things to a halt. | |||
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"(It was just a crappy pun. I'm surprised the thread's turned into random arguments. Then again... this is fab.)" I didn’t mean to start an argument over currency ... honest!,
The franc comment was supposed to add to the satirical image but never mind.
We are becoming like the USA a vitriol filled divided country. Sad isn’t it. | |||
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"We are becoming like the USA a vitriol filled divided country. Sad isn’t it. " This   | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms. "Ha, like it, and unfortunately you've probably called it correctly | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Ha, like it, and unfortunately you've probably called it correctly "Glad somebody liked the crap joke | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island "Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly. Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island. I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country. 
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. "my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you "Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it."lmao well I have said I’m shifat spelling and grammar before haven’t I ask _exy7 pulls me up all time on my grammar lol | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it.lmao well I have said I’m shifat spelling and grammar before haven’t I ask _exy7 pulls me up all time on my grammar lol"It's just really odd that you claim to be bad at spelling and yet attempt to correct somebody's spelling. Never mind. You seem happy enough, so all is well. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it.lmao well I have said I’m shifat spelling and grammar before haven’t I ask _exy7 pulls me up all time on my grammar lol
It's just really odd that you claim to be bad at spelling and yet attempt to correct somebody's spelling.
Never mind. You seem happy enough, so all is well."I have just got out of bed tho next door getting there drive done lol night shifts kill me lol | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it.lmao well I have said I’m shifat spelling and grammar before haven’t I ask _exy7 pulls me up all time on my grammar lol
It's just really odd that you claim to be bad at spelling and yet attempt to correct somebody's spelling.
Never mind. You seem happy enough, so all is well. I have just got out of bed tho next door getting there drive done lol night shifts kill me lol"Maybe the neighbour is a fabber who's getting his own back after a forum argument by doing his drive up. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it.lmao well I have said I’m shifat spelling and grammar before haven’t I ask _exy7 pulls me up all time on my grammar lol
It's just really odd that you claim to be bad at spelling and yet attempt to correct somebody's spelling.
Never mind. You seem happy enough, so all is well. I have just got out of bed tho next door getting there drive done lol night shifts kill me lol
Maybe the neighbour is a fabber who's getting his own back after a forum argument by doing his drive up. "haha ya never know on here like lol if anything he’s a leave voter by my guess never stops singing not a care in the world that lad lol | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it.lmao well I have said I’m shifat spelling and grammar before haven’t I ask _exy7 pulls me up all time on my grammar lol
It's just really odd that you claim to be bad at spelling and yet attempt to correct somebody's spelling.
Never mind. You seem happy enough, so all is well. I have just got out of bed tho next door getting there drive done lol night shifts kill me lol
Maybe the neighbour is a fabber who's getting his own back after a forum argument by doing his drive up. haha ya never know on here like lol if anything he’s a leave voter by my guess never stops singing not a care in the world that lad lol"Lucky chap, isn't he? You know the old saying: ignorance is bliss. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Possibly look up how to spell "hating" before you tell somebody else how to do it.lmao well I have said I’m shifat spelling and grammar before haven’t I ask _exy7 pulls me up all time on my grammar lol
It's just really odd that you claim to be bad at spelling and yet attempt to correct somebody's spelling.
Never mind. You seem happy enough, so all is well. I have just got out of bed tho next door getting there drive done lol night shifts kill me lol
Maybe the neighbour is a fabber who's getting his own back after a forum argument by doing his drive up. haha ya never know on here like lol if anything he’s a leave voter by my guess never stops singing not a care in the world that lad lol
Lucky chap, isn't he? You know the old saying: ignorance is bliss."haha nar he’s not arsed about anything pint half full type of guy got his place in the sun works a cpl months a yr it won’t really affect him tbh | |||
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"Marcon laughing id think not as any delays to the lorries going to the EU will also delay the EU goods coming into the UK as they depend on loads going both ways to keep costs down. If you think the EU can hurt the UK by this, think about this. It will also hurt part of the EU which depends on its goods passing through the UK. Any silly bugger EU delays will also delay goods to and from the Irish Republic. Wonder what the Irish voters will do when the EU allows their economy to suffer because the EU want to be twisted basterds with the UK. Open your eyes every one the UK is open for world goods at lower than EU costs so we will in a few years time see our living standards rise. The poor lower paid will see their wages go further in the shops. The UK leaving the EU is the best thing for our low paid workers. Leaving on WTO terms are fair to trade in both directions and our tax will not be thrown away to prepay for the right to trade. Yes the EU is not and never was a free trade area governments prepay for the right to trade with our tax." I always imagine reading this sort of post in 1 breath, waving my hands about wildly. | |||
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"Marcon laughing id think not as any delays to the lorries going to the EU will also delay the EU goods coming into the UK as they depend on loads going both ways to keep costs down. If you think the EU can hurt the UK by this, think about this. It will also hurt part of the EU which depends on its goods passing through the UK. Any silly bugger EU delays will also delay goods to and from the Irish Republic. Wonder what the Irish voters will do when the EU allows their economy to suffer because the EU want to be twisted basterds with the UK. Open your eyes every one the UK is open for world goods at lower than EU costs so we will in a few years time see our living standards rise. The poor lower paid will see their wages go further in the shops. The UK leaving the EU is the best thing for our low paid workers. Leaving on WTO terms are fair to trade in both directions and our tax will not be thrown away to prepay for the right to trade. Yes the EU is not and never was a free trade area governments prepay for the right to trade with our tax." Is this an example of how badly some people misunderstand the situation, or is this what you believe? If the latter, where do you get your views from, what news do you consume etc? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you "Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. "glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe "Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me. Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it... I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. | |||
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"Marcon laughing id think not as any delays to the lorries going to the EU will also delay the EU goods coming into the UK as they depend on loads going both ways to keep costs down. If you think the EU can hurt the UK by this, think about this. It will also hurt part of the EU which depends on its goods passing through the UK. Any silly bugger EU delays will also delay goods to and from the Irish Republic. Wonder what the Irish voters will do when the EU allows their economy to suffer because the EU want to be twisted basterds with the UK. Open your eyes every one the UK is open for world goods at lower than EU costs so we will in a few years time see our living standards rise. The poor lower paid will see their wages go further in the shops. The UK leaving the EU is the best thing for our low paid workers. Leaving on WTO terms are fair to trade in both directions and our tax will not be thrown away to prepay for the right to trade. Yes the EU is not and never was a free trade area governments prepay for the right to trade with our tax." 43% of our exports go to Europe Less that 5% of there good come here. They can afford to lose our goods we are totally fucked by losing the sales to them . So cheaper US sub standard meat will be on the shelves but as we won’t export anything people won’t have jobs to take advantage. Stena , P&O , Irish Ferries are having more and larger ferries delivered to ship cargo direct from Dublin to the continent avoiding transit in tne U.K. So Eire will be fine and given they are now the 7th richest country in the world I’m sure they are smiling as they watch their old enemy self destruct. As for deals elsewhere have you heard of logistics. The further you have to go, the costlier it gets. Unless you plan on exporting to China as they have still got a few empty containers going back. Of course they are desperate for our manufacturing! Lol Your post is nonsense. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. "I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater "A country I choose to live in? In what way did I choose to live here? Did you? Do you think I and remainers should clear off because you and unicorn believers decided to take this country to the dogs? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater
A country I choose to live in? In what way did I choose to live here? Did you? Do you think I and remainers should clear off because you and unicorn believers decided to take this country to the dogs?"no not at all going by yr past posts you can afford to live somewhere else I live here because I love the U.K. hate the weather but nothing I can do about that iv never said to anyone clear off who am I to say that | |||
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"You deleted 3 posts you should just leave them up so ppl can read yr reall thoughts lol" Deleted three posts because of predictive keypad. Just grow up, will you... | |||
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"You deleted 3 posts you should just leave them up so ppl can read yr reall thoughts lol Deleted three posts because of predictive keypad. Just grow up, will you... "ffs know one cares if you do a typo mate I’d never even heard the term till you told me | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater
A country I choose to live in? In what way did I choose to live here? Did you? Do you think I and remainers should clear off because you and unicorn believers decided to take this country to the dogs? no not at all going by yr past posts you can afford to live somewhere else I live here because I love the U.K. hate the weather but nothing I can do about that iv never said to anyone clear off who am I to say that "Why would I leave my country because some people have voted for Brexit? That I can afford it or not doesn’t make a difference. You resent having been put back into your box and humiliated by a lot of people here because your English is the equivalent of a toddler’s so you’re just posturing and playing stupid trying to pick on my posts and correct mistakes that don’t exist. Just grow up, will you? I’ll stop to feed the troll. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater
A country I choose to live in? In what way did I choose to live here? Did you? Do you think I and remainers should clear off because you and unicorn believers decided to take this country to the dogs? no not at all going by yr past posts you can afford to live somewhere else I live here because I love the U.K. hate the weather but nothing I can do about that iv never said to anyone clear off who am I to say that
Why would I leave my country because some people have voted for Brexit? That I can afford it or not doesn’t make a difference.
You resent having been put back into your box and humiliated by a lot of people here because your English is the equivalent of a toddler’s so you’re just posturing and playing stupid trying to pick on my posts and correct mistakes that don’t exist. Just grow up, will you?
I’ll stop to feed the troll.
"its you who’s picked on my posts about my spelling and grammar for months but I’m not arsed mate just leave it there then chill out it’s only a bit of fun it’s a swingers site for gods sake lol | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater
A country I choose to live in? In what way did I choose to live here? Did you? Do you think I and remainers should clear off because you and unicorn believers decided to take this country to the dogs? no not at all going by yr past posts you can afford to live somewhere else I live here because I love the U.K. hate the weather but nothing I can do about that iv never said to anyone clear off who am I to say that
Why would I leave my country because some people have voted for Brexit? That I can afford it or not doesn’t make a difference.
You resent having been put back into your box and humiliated by a lot of people here because your English is the equivalent of a toddler’s so you’re just posturing and playing stupid trying to pick on my posts and correct mistakes that don’t exist. Just grow up, will you?
I’ll stop to feed the troll.
"Any chance of being respectful to a fellow citizen?. They may have a different point of view and may make a few grammar errors but that's no read on to be so disrespectful | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater
A country I choose to live in? In what way did I choose to live here? Did you? Do you think I and remainers should clear off because you and unicorn believers decided to take this country to the dogs? no not at all going by yr past posts you can afford to live somewhere else I live here because I love the U.K. hate the weather but nothing I can do about that iv never said to anyone clear off who am I to say that
Why would I leave my country because some people have voted for Brexit? That I can afford it or not doesn’t make a difference.
You resent having been put back into your box and humiliated by a lot of people here because your English is the equivalent of a toddler’s so you’re just posturing and playing stupid trying to pick on my posts and correct mistakes that don’t exist. Just grow up, will you?
I’ll stop to feed the troll.
Any chance of being respectful to a fellow citizen?. They may have a different point of view and may make a few grammar errors but that's no read on to be so disrespectful"There are many ways to be disrespectful. Pissing somebody off because of a couple of deleted messages or making up spelling mistakes is ok for a while. However novelty soon wears off and it’s getting a bit tedious to have this type of childish debates. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
"No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago. S | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
"Or make it more competitive Or find another market You all sound as if there's only one solution and senario. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S" | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S "So brexiteers are in favour of freedom of movement within the EU and UK now? When did this turnaround happen? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S "When did we loose the right to live in other countries? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
"However the average tariff is only about 3 % so the impact should be minimal if any . Companies will simply adopt to changing circumstances. We have the advantage that not only will we continue to trade with the EU but will also trade with other countries on more competitive terns . The price of clothing will drop which in turn will help the less well off. It is difficult to see why anyone is too concerned about tax status . Any potentially punitive tariffs would simply mean that the UK would switch back to more manufacturing in the UK or source the product from another country . At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . MAN trucks have already promised that they will hold prices firm regardless of What is Negotiated. . | |||
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"At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . " I'm sure you read that by a nut job who was brainwashing the weak to believe something bad was actually good for them | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
However the average tariff is only about 3 % so the impact should be minimal if any . Companies will simply adopt to changing circumstances. We have the advantage that not only will we continue to trade with the EU but will also trade with other countries on more competitive terns . The price of clothing will drop which in turn will help the less well off. It is difficult to see why anyone is too concerned about tax status . Any potentially punitive tariffs would simply mean that the UK would switch back to more manufacturing in the UK or source the product from another country . At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . MAN trucks have already promised that they will hold prices firm regardless of What is Negotiated. . "Tax status matters because the rich elite (Such as the owner of the Daily Mail) are not paying any tax so your lower paid employee is paying more. Why doesn’t that bother you? The poorer would more likely be able to afford any clothes then. We’ve always been able to trade with other countries at decent rates due to the EU’s financial muscle. Tariffs of only 3%. Many companies in this country run at such small margins that 3% plus customs costs will wipe them out. In addition the EU can set the tariff at whatever they like. It depends on what we are trying to sell and if they think they need to protect jobs in the EU. We need those sales to keep jobs as they account for 43% of our exports. You can’t replace that overnight if ever. MAN sounds great. Let hope there’s enough Eastern European’s left in the U.K. to drive them!! MAN will increase prices after a while and you know that as well as I do. It’s a comfort blanket for the operators to keep market share but they won’t lose money as their parent won’t let them. The average margins in logistics actually used to run at 3% as there were too many family business running as enthusiasts rather than a business but I’m not sure today so I’ll check with the FTA. While you’re commenting on Logistics suppliers . I’m assuming you know only around 10% of permits requested by hauliers have been granted so far both here and on the continent. A lot of carriers are going to stop coming to the U.K. which will increase our export costs. Supply and demand . You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . | |||
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" --snip-- You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . " ...and that's the important piece isn't it? It doesn't matter how small the difference. If it's easier and more profitable to trade elsewhere, then that's what will happen. The power of The Market, and we all know how much the Right love The Market. | |||
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" --snip-- You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . ...and that's the important piece isn't it? It doesn't matter how small the difference. If it's easier and more profitable to trade elsewhere, then that's what will happen. The power of The Market, and we all know how much the Right love The Market. " We waited as late as we dare but the customers dictated they wouldn’t wait any longer. Decision made. Gutted and disappointed by our shit government damaging our own country’s business. | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one " People have asked this sort of question before. I don't think a Brexiter has yet produced a Brexit benefit that isn't all rainbows and unicorns. | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one " Good luck getting an answer Blue passports and something about bananas will be a trade off for living in some mad max type society | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one " Blue passports | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one Good luck getting an answer Blue passports and something about bananas will be a trade off for living in some mad max type society " All joking aside. It would be nice if there was some hidden benefit that only the leavers know about. And some big secret will be revealed when the transition period is up. | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one Good luck getting an answer Blue passports and something about bananas will be a trade off for living in some mad max type society All joking aside. It would be nice if there was some hidden benefit that only the leavers know about. And some big secret will be revealed when the transition period is up. " It's been asked a million times I think the most we have got is some vague theories about fishing. You have got to wonder how people are going to look back at us in 20/30 years time. | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one Good luck getting an answer Blue passports and something about bananas will be a trade off for living in some mad max type society All joking aside. It would be nice if there was some hidden benefit that only the leavers know about. And some big secret will be revealed when the transition period is up. " I think they voted for Brexit to ‘wind up the left’ whatever that means ? | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one Good luck getting an answer Blue passports and something about bananas will be a trade off for living in some mad max type society All joking aside. It would be nice if there was some hidden benefit that only the leavers know about. And some big secret will be revealed when the transition period is up. I think they voted for Brexit to ‘wind up the left’ whatever that means ? "Ultimately, this could end up being the most expensive practical joke of all time. | |||
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"many have still not got it?? the reason they want no deal is simple, The money men want our country to be used for their own profits. The cost of imports from europe will rise so we will be looking elsewhere for food and we will have to take USA meats and grains , and because they will impose tariffs on euro drugs we will then take USA drugs at higher prices. The NHS will be short of staff due to immigration rules so the privatisation companies will start to take over more and more with lower standards and less skilled strata of people so nurses training will be degraded like the apprentice system was in the uk from 3 or four years down to 12 months, most of our doctors come from asia and when they cut the numbers from there the system will start to implode and we will be stuck with a very poor NHS or you go private. The only winners from no deal are the wealthy, there is no outcome where the less wealthy or poor improve their lot. we will become the dumping country of the world with poor standards and bankrupt farms and only factory farming having any chance of sustaining itself. China has grown more than 8% every year on year for the last 12 years. The US will not be the friends that people think they will. There is no country/continent in the world that can or will be our saviour, we are a small island that costs a fortune to transport to. The japan deal was such a good deal even the torys have not mentioned it again The australia deal is non existent as they dont have one. The canada deal is so poor for us its dreadful do not forget they have easy access to the USA even with tariffs that we dont have To finalise it all the wealthy brexit backers have now left or in the process of leaving or never lived here for the last twenty years. The banks we backed have never repaid the benefits we give them. PLEASE someone tell me one benefit from leaving just one because I cannot see one Good luck getting an answer Blue passports and something about bananas will be a trade off for living in some mad max type society All joking aside. It would be nice if there was some hidden benefit that only the leavers know about. And some big secret will be revealed when the transition period is up. I think they voted for Brexit to ‘wind up the left’ whatever that means ?
Ultimately, this could end up being the most expensive practical joke of all time."The die hard Brexit nutters will think it is a price worth paying, it is all they now have to justify their vote, pathetic really | |||
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"Is it really that hard for our unicorn believers to spell out the benefits of Brexit? Are they not allowed to post on this thread? Where are they? " They tend to go quiet when asked for Brexit benefits. Until some brave Brexiter eventually pops up and says one of the following: Salty remoaner tears lol. We can't know the Brext benefits cos we aint left yet. It'll take a while till we all see our riches and personal hovercrafts! Won't affect me none. | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules! "So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island.
you really sound like you hate this island
Really? I wonder what makes you say this. Hating Brexit and the fools who voted for it, undoubtedly.
Hating this island, definitely not. But why should I be surprised in you struggling to make sense of posts written in English. You’ll have to tell me which post makes you say that I hate this island.
I guess it’s probably related to the cretinous belief of numerous brexiters that remainers hate this country.
As if leavers were more patriotic than anybody else. my English lmao you spelt hateing as hating twice mate and really you hate ppl who voted leave does that include your family and friends 17.4 million voted for it I’m sure some of them were close to you
Hateing...
Sums it all up! Another cracker of a post!
Nobody in my family voted for Brexit. And funnily enough, none of my friends either.
Still struggling to answer the question I see.Still waiting for you to tell me which post makes you say I hate this island.
As for hating ( or hateing in your world) I despise the 17.4 who have made this country the laughing stock it has become. That you like it or not, I couldn’t care less. glad I cheered you up trust me wasn’t my intention lol I find it hard to believe that none of yr family or friends voted leave given the number but I take yr word for it do you really hate ppl who chose to tick a different box to you I also find that hard to believe
Still struggling to answer the question, I see. What makes you say I hate this island or that you like it more than me.
Hating, despise, resent the 17.4 million. You choose. I’m not fussed, it’s just semantics isn’t it...
I know for a fact that nobody in my family would vote for this for a multitude of reasons. I probably know some brexiters but I’m certain that none of my friends did. I’m just going by yr posts over the months mate snidy come ya like our world beating island and yr own words you hate 17.4 million leave voters that’s a fair chunk of the population in a country you choose to live in like I said I’ll take yr word for it but I couldn’t say for a fact how any of my family friends workmates voted and I couldn’t careless tbh it wouldn’t change my opinion on any of them but then again I’m not a hater
A country I choose to live in? In what way did I choose to live here? Did you? Do you think I and remainers should clear off because you and unicorn believers decided to take this country to the dogs? no not at all going by yr past posts you can afford to live somewhere else I live here because I love the U.K. hate the weather but nothing I can do about that iv never said to anyone clear off who am I to say that
Why would I leave my country because some people have voted for Brexit? That I can afford it or not doesn’t make a difference.
You resent having been put back into your box and humiliated by a lot of people here because your English is the equivalent of a toddler’s so you’re just posturing and playing stupid trying to pick on my posts and correct mistakes that don’t exist. Just grow up, will you?
I’ll stop to feed the troll.
Any chance of being respectful to a fellow citizen?. They may have a different point of view and may make a few grammar errors but that's no read on to be so disrespectful
There are many ways to be disrespectful. Pissing somebody off because of a couple of deleted messages or making up spelling mistakes is ok for a while. However novelty soon wears off and it’s getting a bit tedious to have this type of childish debates. "It was a long shot thinking the insults would end and has proved to be just that. | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past"Blimey! This is just semantics. We lost the right to freely live in other countries without applying for visas. Which rules out the majority of people. | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past
Blimey! This is just semantics.
We lost the right to freely live in other countries without applying for visas. Which rules out the majority of people."The claim was made that we could not live in other countries. That is clearly false | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past
Blimey! This is just semantics.
We lost the right to freely live in other countries without applying for visas. Which rules out the majority of people.
The claim was made that we could not live in other countries. That is clearly false"No one has made that claim. | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past
Blimey! This is just semantics.
We lost the right to freely live in other countries without applying for visas. Which rules out the majority of people.
The claim was made that we could not live in other countries. That is clearly false
No one has made that claim."2 days ago near the top of this thread you wrote we lost the right to live in other countries recently. | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past"no... in theory if you want to live in any country in the eu 27 (with the exception of ireland), uk residents wishing to live in those countries will have to do exactly the same as what people will have to do if they want to live or work here... apply for residency! it wont be the same as getting a 90 day holiday visa! | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past
Blimey! This is just semantics.
We lost the right to freely live in other countries without applying for visas. Which rules out the majority of people.
The claim was made that we could not live in other countries. That is clearly false
No one has made that claim.
2 days ago near the top of this thread you wrote we lost the right to live in other countries recently."semantics.... for example... if you want to live in france.... you will have to apply for french residency! at the moment you don't have to.... from 31 december you will! okay... you can change the "not lost" to "about to lose".... | |||
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"Marcon laughing id think not as any delays to the lorries going to the EU will also delay the EU goods coming into the UK as they depend on loads going both ways to keep costs down. If you think the EU can hurt the UK by this, think about this. It will also hurt part of the EU which depends on its goods passing through the UK. Any silly bugger EU delays will also delay goods to and from the Irish Republic. Wonder what the Irish voters will do when the EU allows their economy to suffer because the EU want to be twisted basterds with the UK. Open your eyes every one the UK is open for world goods at lower than EU costs so we will in a few years time see our living standards rise. The poor lower paid will see their wages go further in the shops. The UK leaving the EU is the best thing for our low paid workers. Leaving on WTO terms are fair to trade in both directions and our tax will not be thrown away to prepay for the right to trade. Yes the EU is not and never was a free trade area governments prepay for the right to trade with our tax." Hi . A well written post . A few more points below to back you up . Big price reductions in food and consumer goods such as clothing and footwear: EU tariffs and other trade barriers raise clothing prices by up to 8%, and food prices by around 5%. The ability to reorient our future trade towards the most dynamic areas of growth, e.g. Asia, South America and Africa. The EU’s own analysis suggests a network of such deals could add 2% to UK GDP in the long term (see below – ‘further information’) Large competitive advantages in reducing damaging and unnecessary restrictions, which the EU itself estimates costs 4-6% of UK GDP (see below – ‘further information’) No longer paying £10bn a year to the EU in membership fees – which are equivalent to a ‘tariff’ of 6% on our exports to the EU Taking full control of fishing grounds – worth up to £3bn a year in the medium term Having a tailored, skills-based immigration policy without EU preferences, which could cut the benefit bill by £1.6bn per year This would constitute in total a major spending boost: tariff cults alone could boost consumer incomes by £15 billion – around £800 per family per year | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past
Blimey! This is just semantics.
We lost the right to freely live in other countries without applying for visas. Which rules out the majority of people.
The claim was made that we could not live in other countries. That is clearly false
No one has made that claim.
2 days ago near the top of this thread you wrote we lost the right to live in other countries recently."Correct. We have. Does not mean we can't apply to have the right to live there. But if a semantic related "win" here makes you feel better. I'm comfortable with that. The point was that a leaver was telling me if I don't like it here I should leave. Which I can't do, since people voted for that right to be removed. | |||
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" When did we loose the right to live in other countries? in the EU27.... it will happen on the 31st December 2020 when the "transition" agreement runs out! it will then have to be on a country by country agreements....... obviously if you meet their rules!
So we have not lost the right to live in other countries then. The difference will be we will now have to complete a visa just like the rest of the world. This does not equate to not having the right to live in other countries. People have moved to the EU from non EU countries in the past
Blimey! This is just semantics.
We lost the right to freely live in other countries without applying for visas. Which rules out the majority of people.
The claim was made that we could not live in other countries. That is clearly false
No one has made that claim.
2 days ago near the top of this thread you wrote we lost the right to live in other countries recently.
semantics....
for example... if you want to live in france.... you will have to apply for french residency!
at the moment you don't have to.... from 31 december you will!
okay... you can change the "not lost" to "about to lose"....
"If you see again what I wrote I included the fact you would need to complete a visa. Again the claim made we have lost our right or even going to loose our right to live in another country is false. The claim shouls be we are going to loose our automatic right to live in another EU country | |||
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"Marcon laughing id think not as any delays to the lorries going to the EU will also delay the EU goods coming into the UK as they depend on loads going both ways to keep costs down. If you think the EU can hurt the UK by this, think about this. It will also hurt part of the EU which depends on its goods passing through the UK. Any silly bugger EU delays will also delay goods to and from the Irish Republic. Wonder what the Irish voters will do when the EU allows their economy to suffer because the EU want to be twisted basterds with the UK. Open your eyes every one the UK is open for world goods at lower than EU costs so we will in a few years time see our living standards rise. The poor lower paid will see their wages go further in the shops. The UK leaving the EU is the best thing for our low paid workers. Leaving on WTO terms are fair to trade in both directions and our tax will not be thrown away to prepay for the right to trade. Yes the EU is not and never was a free trade area governments prepay for the right to trade with our tax. Hi . A well written post . A few more points below to back you up . Big price reductions in food and consumer goods such as clothing and footwear: EU tariffs and other trade barriers raise clothing prices by up to 8%, and food prices by around 5%. The ability to reorient our future trade towards the most dynamic areas of growth, e.g. Asia, South America and Africa. The EU’s own analysis suggests a network of such deals could add 2% to UK GDP in the long term (see below – ‘further information’) Large competitive advantages in reducing damaging and unnecessary restrictions, which the EU itself estimates costs 4-6% of UK GDP (see below – ‘further information’) No longer paying £10bn a year to the EU in membership fees – which are equivalent to a ‘tariff’ of 6% on our exports to the EU Taking full control of fishing grounds – worth up to £3bn a year in the medium term Having a tailored, skills-based immigration policy without EU preferences, which could cut the benefit bill by £1.6bn per year This would constitute in total a major spending boost: tariff cults alone could boost consumer incomes by £15 billion – around £800 per family per year " Ah, good copy and paste skills. You do know that "Benefits for Britain" is not a reliable source of information! | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
However the average tariff is only about 3 % so the impact should be minimal if any . Companies will simply adopt to changing circumstances. We have the advantage that not only will we continue to trade with the EU but will also trade with other countries on more competitive terns . The price of clothing will drop which in turn will help the less well off. It is difficult to see why anyone is too concerned about tax status . Any potentially punitive tariffs would simply mean that the UK would switch back to more manufacturing in the UK or source the product from another country . At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . MAN trucks have already promised that they will hold prices firm regardless of What is Negotiated. .
Tax status matters because the rich elite (Such as the owner of the Daily Mail) are not paying any tax so your lower paid employee is paying more. Why doesn’t that bother you?
The poorer would more likely be able to afford any clothes then.
We’ve always been able to trade with other countries at decent rates due to the EU’s financial muscle.
Tariffs of only 3%. Many companies in this country run at such small margins that 3% plus customs costs will wipe them out. In addition the EU can set the tariff at whatever they like.
It depends on what we are trying to sell and if they think they need to protect jobs in the EU. We need those sales to keep jobs as they account for 43% of our exports. You can’t replace that overnight if ever.
MAN sounds great. Let hope there’s enough Eastern European’s left in the U.K. to drive them!!
MAN will increase prices after a while and you know that as well as I do. It’s a comfort blanket for the operators to keep market share but they won’t lose money as their parent won’t let them.
The average margins in logistics actually used to run at 3% as there were too many family business running as enthusiasts rather than a business but I’m not sure today so I’ll check with the FTA.
While you’re commenting on Logistics suppliers . I’m assuming you know only around 10% of permits requested by hauliers have been granted so far both here and on the continent. A lot of carriers are going to stop coming to the U.K. which will increase our export costs. Supply and demand .
You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . "i fail to see what relevance taxation paid by either the Daily Mail and General Trust or the Rothschild family has . Last time I checked the Daily Mail and Grneral Trust had a Corporation tax charge of circa £21 million and there was a corresponding liability posted on the balance sheet plus a disclosure note explaining how the tax charge arose . It is people ( not companies ) that use the NHS and Education system. In the interests of fairness the cost of these services should be borne by the people who use the services , not companies . As far as I am aware , the Roschild family are domiciled abroad and would not be entitled to claim any benefits in the UK such as unemployment or pensions and would be unable to use the NHS . Any money transferred to the UK by them would be taxed on a remittance basis . | |||
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"Marcon laughing id think not as any delays to the lorries going to the EU will also delay the EU goods coming into the UK as they depend on loads going both ways to keep costs down. If you think the EU can hurt the UK by this, think about this. It will also hurt part of the EU which depends on its goods passing through the UK. Any silly bugger EU delays will also delay goods to and from the Irish Republic. Wonder what the Irish voters will do when the EU allows their economy to suffer because the EU want to be twisted basterds with the UK. Open your eyes every one the UK is open for world goods at lower than EU costs so we will in a few years time see our living standards rise. The poor lower paid will see their wages go further in the shops. The UK leaving the EU is the best thing for our low paid workers. Leaving on WTO terms are fair to trade in both directions and our tax will not be thrown away to prepay for the right to trade. Yes the EU is not and never was a free trade area governments prepay for the right to trade with our tax. Hi . A well written post . A few more points below to back you up . Big price reductions in food and consumer goods such as clothing and footwear: EU tariffs and other trade barriers raise clothing prices by up to 8%, and food prices by around 5%. The ability to reorient our future trade towards the most dynamic areas of growth, e.g. Asia, South America and Africa. The EU’s own analysis suggests a network of such deals could add 2% to UK GDP in the long term (see below – ‘further information’) Large competitive advantages in reducing damaging and unnecessary restrictions, which the EU itself estimates costs 4-6% of UK GDP (see below – ‘further information’) No longer paying £10bn a year to the EU in membership fees – which are equivalent to a ‘tariff’ of 6% on our exports to the EU Taking full control of fishing grounds – worth up to £3bn a year in the medium term Having a tailored, skills-based immigration policy without EU preferences, which could cut the benefit bill by £1.6bn per year This would constitute in total a major spending boost: tariff cults alone could boost consumer incomes by £15 billion – around £800 per family per year Ah, good copy and paste skills. You do know that "Benefits for Britain" is not a reliable source of information!" | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
However the average tariff is only about 3 % so the impact should be minimal if any . Companies will simply adopt to changing circumstances. We have the advantage that not only will we continue to trade with the EU but will also trade with other countries on more competitive terns . The price of clothing will drop which in turn will help the less well off. It is difficult to see why anyone is too concerned about tax status . Any potentially punitive tariffs would simply mean that the UK would switch back to more manufacturing in the UK or source the product from another country . At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . MAN trucks have already promised that they will hold prices firm regardless of What is Negotiated. .
Tax status matters because the rich elite (Such as the owner of the Daily Mail) are not paying any tax so your lower paid employee is paying more. Why doesn’t that bother you?
The poorer would more likely be able to afford any clothes then.
We’ve always been able to trade with other countries at decent rates due to the EU’s financial muscle.
Tariffs of only 3%. Many companies in this country run at such small margins that 3% plus customs costs will wipe them out. In addition the EU can set the tariff at whatever they like.
It depends on what we are trying to sell and if they think they need to protect jobs in the EU. We need those sales to keep jobs as they account for 43% of our exports. You can’t replace that overnight if ever.
MAN sounds great. Let hope there’s enough Eastern European’s left in the U.K. to drive them!!
MAN will increase prices after a while and you know that as well as I do. It’s a comfort blanket for the operators to keep market share but they won’t lose money as their parent won’t let them.
The average margins in logistics actually used to run at 3% as there were too many family business running as enthusiasts rather than a business but I’m not sure today so I’ll check with the FTA.
While you’re commenting on Logistics suppliers . I’m assuming you know only around 10% of permits requested by hauliers have been granted so far both here and on the continent. A lot of carriers are going to stop coming to the U.K. which will increase our export costs. Supply and demand .
You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . i fail to see what relevance taxation paid by either the Daily Mail and General Trust or the Rothschild family has .
Last time I checked the Daily Mail and Grneral Trust had a Corporation tax charge of circa £21 million and there was a corresponding liability posted on the balance sheet plus a disclosure note explaining how the tax charge arose .
It is people ( not companies ) that use the NHS and Education system. In the interests of fairness the cost of these services should be borne by the people who use the services , not companies .
As far as I am aware , the Roschild family are domiciled abroad and would not be entitled to claim any benefits in the UK such as unemployment or pensions and would be unable to use the NHS . Any money transferred to the UK by them would be taxed on a remittance basis ."The wealth of a company is feared by a series of people and interests . Banking management and workers. All create that wealth but only the workers pay tax. For a country to be successful the economy must generate tax revenues. Most tax revenues are generated by commercial interests. Without companies paying corporation tax the country would be bankrupt so following your logic no company should pay tax. You can turn the lights off and shut down GB with that theory. The wealth earned by major investors is being hidden away by corporations to avoid tax. That wealth is then pocketed by the shareholder who pays himself via the holding company in a tax favourable regime such as the Turks and Cacao’s islands. So the owner gets wealthy by avoiding paying tax on his income whilst all his workers pay their share. If I take your logic it’s ok for me to avoid tax so long as I don’t phone for an ambulance? The owner of the Daily Mail will use the same roads my tax pays for and the street lighting and will expect the fire brigade to come out if his Stately home in Wiltshire is on fire. But I take you advice and tell him to fuck off and let it burn down as he doesn’t need our services paid for by the lower earning tax payers. Not sure about your Rothschild reference but to explain the status of the Daily mails owner. He lives in the UK using the “facilities” provided by Government who collect taxes to do so. but doesn’t pay for anything. Copied Rothermere family, Daily Mail A Lady Rothermere trust is recorded in Jersey. It appears to refer to the late Lord Rothermere's second wife, Maiko Lee, of Korean nationality. She did not respond to our invitations to comment. Rothermere's son Jonathan by his first wife inherited the Daily Mail, also through a Jersey trust, and a Bermuda-registered offshore entity. Jonathan is estimated to be worth £760m. He has not denied claiming tax concessions as a "non-dom", on the grounds that his father lived in Paris. He resides at Ferne Park, a stately home in Wiltshire built for him by architect Quinlan Terry. This situation stinks to high heaven and is morally wrong. We should all pay our fair share. To pay nothing when you earn so much more is disgraceful. . Explain to me how someone worth £760m should pay nothing and yet my father is taxed on his pension payments from a pension he paid into all his life. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
However the average tariff is only about 3 % so the impact should be minimal if any . Companies will simply adopt to changing circumstances. We have the advantage that not only will we continue to trade with the EU but will also trade with other countries on more competitive terns . The price of clothing will drop which in turn will help the less well off. It is difficult to see why anyone is too concerned about tax status . Any potentially punitive tariffs would simply mean that the UK would switch back to more manufacturing in the UK or source the product from another country . At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . MAN trucks have already promised that they will hold prices firm regardless of What is Negotiated. .
Tax status matters because the rich elite (Such as the owner of the Daily Mail) are not paying any tax so your lower paid employee is paying more. Why doesn’t that bother you?
The poorer would more likely be able to afford any clothes then.
We’ve always been able to trade with other countries at decent rates due to the EU’s financial muscle.
Tariffs of only 3%. Many companies in this country run at such small margins that 3% plus customs costs will wipe them out. In addition the EU can set the tariff at whatever they like.
It depends on what we are trying to sell and if they think they need to protect jobs in the EU. We need those sales to keep jobs as they account for 43% of our exports. You can’t replace that overnight if ever.
MAN sounds great. Let hope there’s enough Eastern European’s left in the U.K. to drive them!!
MAN will increase prices after a while and you know that as well as I do. It’s a comfort blanket for the operators to keep market share but they won’t lose money as their parent won’t let them.
The average margins in logistics actually used to run at 3% as there were too many family business running as enthusiasts rather than a business but I’m not sure today so I’ll check with the FTA.
While you’re commenting on Logistics suppliers . I’m assuming you know only around 10% of permits requested by hauliers have been granted so far both here and on the continent. A lot of carriers are going to stop coming to the U.K. which will increase our export costs. Supply and demand .
You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . i fail to see what relevance taxation paid by either the Daily Mail and General Trust or the Rothschild family has .
Last time I checked the Daily Mail and Grneral Trust had a Corporation tax charge of circa £21 million and there was a corresponding liability posted on the balance sheet plus a disclosure note explaining how the tax charge arose .
It is people ( not companies ) that use the NHS and Education system. In the interests of fairness the cost of these services should be borne by the people who use the services , not companies .
As far as I am aware , the Roschild family are domiciled abroad and would not be entitled to claim any benefits in the UK such as unemployment or pensions and would be unable to use the NHS . Any money transferred to the UK by them would be taxed on a remittance basis .
The wealth of a company is feared by a series of people and interests . Banking management and workers. All create that wealth but only the workers pay tax.
For a country to be successful the economy must generate tax revenues. Most tax revenues are generated by commercial interests. Without companies paying corporation tax the country would be bankrupt so following your logic no company should pay tax.
You can turn the lights off and shut down GB with that theory.
The wealth earned by major investors is being hidden away by corporations to avoid tax.
That wealth is then pocketed by the shareholder who pays himself via the holding company in a tax favourable regime such as the Turks and Cacao’s islands.
So the owner gets wealthy by avoiding paying tax on his income whilst all his workers pay their share.
If I take your logic it’s ok for me to avoid tax so long as I don’t phone for an ambulance?
The owner of the Daily Mail will use the same roads my tax pays for and the street lighting and will expect the fire brigade to come out if his Stately home in Wiltshire is on fire. But I take you advice and tell him to fuck off and let it burn down as he doesn’t need our services paid for by the lower earning tax payers.
Not sure about your Rothschild reference but to explain the status of the Daily mails owner. He lives in the UK using the “facilities” provided by Government who collect taxes to do so. but doesn’t pay for anything.
Copied
Rothermere family, Daily Mail
A Lady Rothermere trust is recorded in Jersey. It appears to refer to the late Lord Rothermere's second wife, Maiko Lee, of Korean nationality. She did not respond to our invitations to comment. Rothermere's son Jonathan by his first wife inherited the Daily Mail, also through a Jersey trust, and a Bermuda-registered offshore entity. Jonathan is estimated to be worth £760m. He has not denied claiming tax concessions as a "non-dom", on the grounds that his father lived in Paris. He resides at Ferne Park, a stately home in Wiltshire built for him by architect Quinlan Terry.
This situation stinks to high heaven and is morally wrong. We should all pay our fair share. To pay nothing when you earn so much more is disgraceful. .
Explain to me how someone worth £760m should pay nothing and yet my father is taxed on his pension payments from a pension he paid into all his life.
"However a Trust is entirely different to the income of a specific individual. Income can only be drawn out of a trust in accordance with the aim of the trust and the permission of the trustees. If the Rothermeres are non domiciled in the Uk , they will still be taxed on any income earned in the UK plus any worldwide income on a remittance basis . Since 2016 an additional charge has also become payable. All the family have done is organise their affairs in order to minimise their tax liabilities. I think we can be satisfied that the taxation which they pay more than covers the cost of any service which they use . | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries? "We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left. One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence."No one said "all the bank's would leave". Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen. Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
However the average tariff is only about 3 % so the impact should be minimal if any . Companies will simply adopt to changing circumstances. We have the advantage that not only will we continue to trade with the EU but will also trade with other countries on more competitive terns . The price of clothing will drop which in turn will help the less well off. It is difficult to see why anyone is too concerned about tax status . Any potentially punitive tariffs would simply mean that the UK would switch back to more manufacturing in the UK or source the product from another country . At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . MAN trucks have already promised that they will hold prices firm regardless of What is Negotiated. .
Tax status matters because the rich elite (Such as the owner of the Daily Mail) are not paying any tax so your lower paid employee is paying more. Why doesn’t that bother you?
The poorer would more likely be able to afford any clothes then.
We’ve always been able to trade with other countries at decent rates due to the EU’s financial muscle.
Tariffs of only 3%. Many companies in this country run at such small margins that 3% plus customs costs will wipe them out. In addition the EU can set the tariff at whatever they like.
It depends on what we are trying to sell and if they think they need to protect jobs in the EU. We need those sales to keep jobs as they account for 43% of our exports. You can’t replace that overnight if ever.
MAN sounds great. Let hope there’s enough Eastern European’s left in the U.K. to drive them!!
MAN will increase prices after a while and you know that as well as I do. It’s a comfort blanket for the operators to keep market share but they won’t lose money as their parent won’t let them.
The average margins in logistics actually used to run at 3% as there were too many family business running as enthusiasts rather than a business but I’m not sure today so I’ll check with the FTA.
While you’re commenting on Logistics suppliers . I’m assuming you know only around 10% of permits requested by hauliers have been granted so far both here and on the continent. A lot of carriers are going to stop coming to the U.K. which will increase our export costs. Supply and demand .
You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . i fail to see what relevance taxation paid by either the Daily Mail and General Trust or the Rothschild family has .
Last time I checked the Daily Mail and Grneral Trust had a Corporation tax charge of circa £21 million and there was a corresponding liability posted on the balance sheet plus a disclosure note explaining how the tax charge arose .
It is people ( not companies ) that use the NHS and Education system. In the interests of fairness the cost of these services should be borne by the people who use the services , not companies .
As far as I am aware , the Roschild family are domiciled abroad and would not be entitled to claim any benefits in the UK such as unemployment or pensions and would be unable to use the NHS . Any money transferred to the UK by them would be taxed on a remittance basis .
The wealth of a company is feared by a series of people and interests . Banking management and workers. All create that wealth but only the workers pay tax.
For a country to be successful the economy must generate tax revenues. Most tax revenues are generated by commercial interests. Without companies paying corporation tax the country would be bankrupt so following your logic no company should pay tax.
You can turn the lights off and shut down GB with that theory.
The wealth earned by major investors is being hidden away by corporations to avoid tax.
That wealth is then pocketed by the shareholder who pays himself via the holding company in a tax favourable regime such as the Turks and Cacao’s islands.
So the owner gets wealthy by avoiding paying tax on his income whilst all his workers pay their share.
If I take your logic it’s ok for me to avoid tax so long as I don’t phone for an ambulance?
The owner of the Daily Mail will use the same roads my tax pays for and the street lighting and will expect the fire brigade to come out if his Stately home in Wiltshire is on fire. But I take you advice and tell him to fuck off and let it burn down as he doesn’t need our services paid for by the lower earning tax payers.
Not sure about your Rothschild reference but to explain the status of the Daily mails owner. He lives in the UK using the “facilities” provided by Government who collect taxes to do so. but doesn’t pay for anything.
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Rothermere family, Daily Mail
A Lady Rothermere trust is recorded in Jersey. It appears to refer to the late Lord Rothermere's second wife, Maiko Lee, of Korean nationality. She did not respond to our invitations to comment. Rothermere's son Jonathan by his first wife inherited the Daily Mail, also through a Jersey trust, and a Bermuda-registered offshore entity. Jonathan is estimated to be worth £760m. He has not denied claiming tax concessions as a "non-dom", on the grounds that his father lived in Paris. He resides at Ferne Park, a stately home in Wiltshire built for him by architect Quinlan Terry.
This situation stinks to high heaven and is morally wrong. We should all pay our fair share. To pay nothing when you earn so much more is disgraceful. .
Explain to me how someone worth £760m should pay nothing and yet my father is taxed on his pension payments from a pension he paid into all his life.
However a Trust is entirely different to the income of a specific individual. Income can only be drawn out of a trust in accordance with the aim of the trust and the permission of the trustees. If the Rothermeres are non domiciled in the Uk , they will still be taxed on any income earned in the UK plus any worldwide income on a remittance basis . Since 2016 an additional charge has also become payable.
All the family have done is organise their affairs in order to minimise their tax liabilities. I think we can be satisfied that the taxation which they pay more than covers the cost of any service which they use . "I have at no point said they have done anything illegal or without the consent of the government. Your argument is that it’s ok for rich Elite to avoid paying income tax on a trust which is purely another tax avoidance tool but as a percentage a pensioner pays ten times more. You’re missing the point. People call some unemployed scrounges etc when they claim for everything and live a lifestyle on benefits. They again are dong nothing illegal but who’s paying? Yes the guy in the middle who works for a living. It’s the same principal so whilst non domicile is not illegal, it’s morally wrong and the EU were going after such arrangements to stop the movement of wealth to avoid tax. So in effect everyone pays their fair share. I’m not a supporter of tax the super rich to death as that discourages growth and investment. But it has gone to far. The basic question on a trust is if it’s not to avoid tax then why do it? | |||
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" --snip-- No one said "all the bank's would leave". Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen. Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one. " A significant number of financial services companies have moved business and jobs out of the UK... Good report on it at new financial dot org, something like 300 firms. Including BoA, Barclays and HSBC. | |||
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" --snip-- No one said "all the bank's would leave". Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen. Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one. A significant number of financial services companies have moved business and jobs out of the UK... Good report on it at new financial dot org, something like 300 firms. Including BoA, Barclays and HSBC. " Be interesting to see how much tax take has gone. I wonder if it’s above the money we paid the EU yet?? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one."The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote. The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro. And what again is currently being negotiated to happen? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
"Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit? "Yep It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid"Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?"Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs... | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
"Uh hu Where do you get your news, information, etc? I'm genuinely interested to know. | |||
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"Just discovered 10% of banking funds have been moved so far, so in tax terms it works out at £7.5 Billion lost to HMRC. How many hospitals is that? Another Brexit win! " What period is that over? It's an interesting figure, as it's quite close to what we were paying in per year. Obviously that cost went to running things like the EMA etc. that we now have to replicate ourselves, so we are probably already worse off, and it's not really all started yet. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs..."The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either. Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it. One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking."Haha, that is funny. Which of the ‘major players’ do you think will be the next to leave the EU and why would they? Do you think we will get a better trade deal with the likes of China and the US than the EU? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking."Where do you get this ideas from? I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume "Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling "Do you or are you another fortune teller? And what would that be exactly? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?"Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking."Is immigration out of control? | |||
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" One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking." What are we going to trade ? I see the illegal migrants have stopped arriving ?? | |||
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" One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking. What are we going to trade ? I see the illegal migrants have stopped arriving ??" Asylum seekers | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Is immigration out of control?"It is in Benidorm | |||
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" One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking. What are we going to trade ? I see the illegal migrants have stopped arriving ??" Have we left them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? | |||
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" One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking. What are we going to trade ? I see the illegal migrants have stopped arriving ?? Asylum seekers
"Two different groups. Though really we should think about encouraging more illegal migrants, now the legal ones from the EU have dried up. The economy needs them. | |||
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" One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking. What are we going to trade ? I see the illegal migrants have stopped arriving ?? Asylum seekers
Two different groups. Though really we should think about encouraging more illegal migrants, now the legal ones from the EU have dried up. The economy needs them."I agree, I was being facetious | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish "You have no idea what I voted for for a start. We will be able to have better control of our own borders. You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this. Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017. "1 in 7? Wow, what is that in total and what will this mean if we get a no deal or a bad deal? German cars become more expensive in the UK? What do you mean ‘most EU nations will want to trade with us’? And how much is fishing worth to the UKs economy? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
"Sterling was 1.37 in 2015 it’s now 1.09 If you cut your wages by the same amount 20% I suspect you wouldn’t be saying that’s nothing! It’s huge!, We are a massively net importer which makes goods more expensive. Our manufactured goodS will be cheaper to export if we don’t import the materials to make them. Sadly as a service industry country we don’t make a lot but some services could be cheaper. Just harder to sell due to borders. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017. "Trade implies movement of goods in BOTH directions | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017. "What do we make? Germany is renowned for selling cars France .wine Us..? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
Trade implies movement of goods in BOTH directions"Exactly, BMW and other car manufacturers will have to make thousands of job cute in the UK if we leave without a deal | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Haha, that is funny. Which of the ‘major players’ do you think will be the next to leave the EU and why would they? Do you think we will get a better trade deal with the likes of China and the US than the EU? "I think yes, the potential is there with both China and the US. Unlike the EU which will have all members scrambling for a piece of the pie, and we all know that not all members are benefiting as well as some, negotiations will be simply focused on us and not with all the others. Like anything that is to happen no one can be certain and I don't believe anyone can say with any certainty what will happen either way. What was happening arguably needed changing and the brexit decision has given that opportunity. Whether one agrees with it or not, majority voted for it, it's a democratic society and there are times one has to accept that and move forward and work together for the best of all. Covid has illustrated how people don't like doing that if they don't get their way too. You think the EU isn't crumbling and hasn't shown those signs for at least a decade or more? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
Trade implies movement of goods in BOTH directions
Exactly, BMW and other car manufacturers will have to make thousands of job cute in the UK if we leave without a deal "wasmt that long ago ppl were saying Nissan will move to Europe as that happened ? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
Trade implies movement of goods in BOTH directions
Exactly, BMW and other car manufacturers will have to make thousands of job cute in the UK if we leave without a deal wasmt that long ago ppl were saying Nissan will move to Europe as that happened ?"If we leave without a deal Nissan have stated that they will, | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
What do we make?
Germany is renowned for selling cars
France .wine
Us..?"And your point? Maybe your view of trade is only manufacturing, but there's a bit more to trade than, in your words, 'what is made'. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
What do we make?
Germany is renowned for selling cars
France .wine
Us..?
And your point? Maybe your view of trade is only manufacturing, but there's a bit more to trade than, in your words, 'what is made'. "So what are the UK renowned for? What is our biggest trade sector? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
What do we make?
Germany is renowned for selling cars
France .wine
Us..?
And your point? Maybe your view of trade is only manufacturing, but there's a bit more to trade than, in your words, 'what is made'. "I'm just wondering what will we have to sell. I'm no economist but isnt a trade mainly built around the service area and the city now? As an aside.. let say..for arguments sake..it is a total cluster fuck..do you think anyone will take responsibility? | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
S
When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
What do we make?
Germany is renowned for selling cars
France .wine
Us..?
And your point? Maybe your view of trade is only manufacturing, but there's a bit more to trade than, in your words, 'what is made'.
I'm just wondering what will we have to sell.
I'm no economist but isnt a trade mainly built around the service area and the city now?
As an aside.. let say..for arguments sake..it is a total cluster fuck..do you think anyone will take responsibility?"Boris the clown will | |||
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" I think yes, the potential is there with both China and the US. Unlike the EU which will have all members scrambling for a piece of the pie, and we all know that not all members are benefiting as well as some, negotiations will be simply focused on us and not with all the others. Like anything that is to happen no one can be certain and I don't believe anyone can say with any certainty what will happen either way. What was happening arguably needed changing and the brexit decision has given that opportunity. Whether one agrees with it or not, majority voted for it, it's a democratic society and there are times one has to accept that and move forward and work together for the best of all. Covid has illustrated how people don't like doing that if they don't get their way too. You think the EU isn't crumbling and hasn't shown those signs for at least a decade or more?" I'd love to know where you get all this from. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
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When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking."Over 324 institutions from the city have registered in the EU and 10% of all assets have moved so far. If a no deal happens then expect that number to rise. Paris is the biggest destination followed by Amsterdam then Frankfurt. The 7.5Billion tax take has gone too and set to rise. Another saving for Brexit FFS do the maths in tax alone we will be worse off than being in EU and then add trade barriers to that and it’s just free fall negative all the way. JCB sales around the world areN’t just going to quadruple. France is the leading light for the EU so going nowhere. The EU didn’t tell us how many immigrants to take . They asked if we would take asylum seekers and refugees as a percentage across Europe. If you want less immigration you better start reading the facts. The immigrants who work are leaving the immigrants who don’t are increasing. By far the biggest immigration route is LEGAL dependants and students from the Indian sub continent. At least 100k more than Europe even before Brexit. There are literally hundreds of thousands of them (around 600k last time I looked) but you worried about 50k workers from Romania. So your immigration vote is just wasted . Sad and ignorant. Btw students usually end up staying and working which is good but I think they may chose another country now. No point in trying to work in a declining nation. Strangely we were doing well before Brexit. | |||
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" I think yes, the potential is there with both China and the US. Unlike the EU which will have all members scrambling for a piece of the pie, and we all know that not all members are benefiting as well as some, negotiations will be simply focused on us and not with all the others. Like anything that is to happen no one can be certain and I don't believe anyone can say with any certainty what will happen either way. What was happening arguably needed changing and the brexit decision has given that opportunity. Whether one agrees with it or not, majority voted for it, it's a democratic society and there are times one has to accept that and move forward and work together for the best of all. Covid has illustrated how people don't like doing that if they don't get their way too. You think the EU isn't crumbling and hasn't shown those signs for at least a decade or more? I'd love to know where you get all this from. " Havent countries been fighting to join the eu? | |||
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" I think yes, the potential is there with both China and the US. Unlike the EU which will have all members scrambling for a piece of the pie, and we all know that not all members are benefiting as well as some, negotiations will be simply focused on us and not with all the others. Like anything that is to happen no one can be certain and I don't believe anyone can say with any certainty what will happen either way. What was happening arguably needed changing and the brexit decision has given that opportunity. Whether one agrees with it or not, majority voted for it, it's a democratic society and there are times one has to accept that and move forward and work together for the best of all. Covid has illustrated how people don't like doing that if they don't get their way too. You think the EU isn't crumbling and hasn't shown those signs for at least a decade or more? I'd love to know where you get all this from. Havent countries been fighting to join the eu?" Yes exactly, they go to huge lengths just to have a hope of joining. I am curious where this guy gets his views. They're so removed from reality, even beyond the Daily Express. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
So travel disruption is a good, or bad thing?
Good if it's in the name of Brexit, and bad if it's in the name of people who want better working conditions?
Don’t be cheeky! The French should not be allowed to strike! How dare they! Or at least it should not impact our world beating island. you really sound like you hate this island
In fairness it used to be great place here. yet you still live here ?
We lost the right to live in other countries just recently.
You might have seen something about it in the news.
No we didn’t, got friends who’ve only just completed on their house in Italy, moved in about three weeks ago.
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When did we loose the right to live in other countries?
We never did, but remainers circulated that around as one of the things we would loose if we left.
One thing I've notice though is remainers seem to know the future, saying all the doomsday scenarios that we were going to experience. All the banks were going to pull out there head offices out of London and move. The sterling was going to crash and it's value was going to be so weak against the Euro it was going to make it impossible to trade with Europe in particular. Our standards in food hygiene, Health and safety laws, standard of living would drop significantly against other European countries were all going to drop to name few of the crystal ball predictions. Another was we weren't going to be able to be competitive against the EU market. The jury is still open on all of these. I don't think any of these will ever come about either. Most of these were said in fear rather than on any factual evidence.
No one said "all the bank's would leave".
Aside from that. All the rest had happened, or is currently being negotiated to happen.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for news about a single tangible benefit from brexit. But alas, no one has yet been able to provide one.
The banks leaving was one common ideas they had repeatedly muted. I had given good reasons why they wouldn't apart from cost and the fact they couldn't agree to move together either in the months after all the remainers panicked with vote.
The Sterling never crashed as they seem to assure everyone, it didn't even dropped below the Euro.
And what again is currently being negotiated to happen?
Did you find a single tangible benefit of Brexit?
Yep
It will take the economic focus away from tackling Covid
Or maybe you all over thought the economic issue which was after all based upon speculation?
Somebody touched on this above. The banks have moved a huge amount of assets from the UK to the EU. Also, the UK credit rating was recently downgraded by Moody's. Not good early signs...
The banks are the most risk adverse and conservative institutions we have. I'm very surprised at it being only 10%, then again they may not completely trust where it's been currently put either. The EU isn't as stable as many believe, it's been developing large cracks for the past 10 years and plastered over them. It's not hard for banks to move money back either.
Its just a matter of time before another large player moves out. There's at least 3 countries that have muted the idea in the background and France is one of them. They were all banking on making it a horrendously difficult transition so it wouldn't happen with the view of scaring anyone else who might have been considering it.
One positive....we can trade with who we want without being limited to how much now. We can take back more control on immigration instead of being told by the EU how many we should be taking.
Where do you get this ideas from?
I'm really curious what news you read/watch/consume
Tbh, I think we all know why he voted for Brexit, the last line is very telling
Do you or are you another fortune teller?
And what would that be exactly?
Immigration, which is fair enough, because the rest of what you said was utter rubbish
You have no idea what I voted for for a start.
We will be able to have better control of our own borders.
You know or should know that the EU did curb/limit free trade by its members to anyone else. Part of the fishing rights is based upon this.
Our trade options have been opened up. Most EU countries will want to trade with us and I don't think we'll have lost must EU trade once the dust settles. Germany of all countries do not want to loose that. 1 in 7 German cars were sold to the UK in 2017.
Trade implies movement of goods in BOTH directions
Exactly, BMW and other car manufacturers will have to make thousands of job cute in the UK if we leave without a deal "1 in 7 cars in the U.K. true but as a whole the UK accounts for less than 3% of their exports so I don’t think they are quaking in their boots just yet. Their cars will just get costlier to import and so we will not have the extra spec to compensate. Nice strong arms from those wind up windows!, | |||
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"regarding the fishing the vast majority of fish caught by uk boats depends on sales in europe because the fish caught are not the ones that suit our tastes, With tariffs they will be dearer in europe so the costs will rise and therefore sales will drop The boats work on tight margins as it is so any drop in sales will mean quite a few will go out of business and they will be selling their licenses to the european boats so with in a short period of time they will be much worse off in the scottish ports and No one will give a damn /" Sounds like another Brexit bonus, | |||
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"regarding the fishing the vast majority of fish caught by uk boats depends on sales in europe because the fish caught are not the ones that suit our tastes, With tariffs they will be dearer in europe so the costs will rise and therefore sales will drop The boats work on tight margins as it is so any drop in sales will mean quite a few will go out of business and they will be selling their licenses to the european boats so with in a short period of time they will be much worse off in the scottish ports and No one will give a damn /" Idont think that will happen as we dont have a very big fishing fleet now. It will be good for fish stocks in the future but i cant see the people of europe just stop eating fish. | |||
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"regarding the fishing the vast majority of fish caught by uk boats depends on sales in europe because the fish caught are not the ones that suit our tastes, With tariffs they will be dearer in europe so the costs will rise and therefore sales will drop The boats work on tight margins as it is so any drop in sales will mean quite a few will go out of business and they will be selling their licenses to the european boats so with in a short period of time they will be much worse off in the scottish ports and No one will give a damn /Idont think that will happen as we dont have a very big fishing fleet now. It will be good for fish stocks in the future but i cant see the people of europe just stop eating fish." I thought the UK are hoping to build their new post Brexit economy on the fishing industry, it is one of the main reasons we cant get a deal | |||
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"you dont seem to see the fish we land are for the european market not uk, they are quality but any more costs will lose that market, the european boats will use the quota they buy from uk boats to land in belguim/france without tariffs and the uk ports will close" It's almost like there is no upside to brexit! | |||
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"you dont seem to see the fish we land are for the european market not uk, they are quality but any more costs will lose that market, the european boats will use the quota they buy from uk boats to land in belguim/france without tariffs and the uk ports will close" well someone is catching the fish i buy every week from my fish shop and yes we may be selling it to europe ,when the new quotas come in we will be catching fish for the uk market and that should keep our little fleet busy. | |||
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"you dont seem to see the fish we land are for the european market not uk, they are quality but any more costs will lose that market, the european boats will use the quota they buy from uk boats to land in belguim/france without tariffs and the uk ports will closewell someone is catching the fish i buy every week from my fish shop and yes we may be selling it to europe ,when the new quotas come in we will be catching fish for the uk market and that should keep our little fleet busy. "‘Little fleet’ ??? I think we will all be eating fish for every meal if that is going to be the only Brexit benefit | |||
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"you dont seem to see the fish we land are for the european market not uk, they are quality but any more costs will lose that market, the european boats will use the quota they buy from uk boats to land in belguim/france without tariffs and the uk ports will closewell someone is catching the fish i buy every week from my fish shop and yes we may be selling it to europe ,when the new quotas come in we will be catching fish for the uk market and that should keep our little fleet busy.
‘Little fleet’ ??? I think we will all be eating fish for every meal if that is going to be the only Brexit benefit "It might make the population a bit more brainy then maybe they will be able to understand covid rules. | |||
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"you dont seem to see the fish we land are for the european market not uk, they are quality but any more costs will lose that market, the european boats will use the quota they buy from uk boats to land in belguim/france without tariffs and the uk ports will closewell someone is catching the fish i buy every week from my fish shop and yes we may be selling it to europe ,when the new quotas come in we will be catching fish for the uk market and that should keep our little fleet busy.
"Yep, the Icelandic fishing fleet mainly. We import 70% of the seafood eaten in the UK, and export 80% of our catch. No one in the UK wants Herring. | |||
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"you dont seem to see the fish we land are for the european market not uk, they are quality but any more costs will lose that market, the european boats will use the quota they buy from uk boats to land in belguim/france without tariffs and the uk ports will closewell someone is catching the fish i buy every week from my fish shop and yes we may be selling it to europe ,when the new quotas come in we will be catching fish for the uk market and that should keep our little fleet busy.
Yep, the Icelandic fishing fleet mainly. We import 70% of the seafood eaten in the UK, and export 80% of our catch.
No one in the UK wants Herring. "Crackers isn't it though if it all goes to pot all we will get is herring if we are lucky. | |||
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"you dont seem to see the fish we land are for the european market not uk, they are quality but any more costs will lose that market, the european boats will use the quota they buy from uk boats to land in belguim/france without tariffs and the uk ports will closewell someone is catching the fish i buy every week from my fish shop and yes we may be selling it to europe ,when the new quotas come in we will be catching fish for the uk market and that should keep our little fleet busy.
Yep, the Icelandic fishing fleet mainly. We import 70% of the seafood eaten in the UK, and export 80% of our catch.
No one in the UK wants Herring. "im sure if nigella or jamie started cooking it on tv it will become so. Do we only have herring in uk waters then? i can remember a time when you would never have seen squid in the shops seems very popular now. | |||
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit "
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
Do you honestly believe they can protect every job?
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
Do you honestly believe they can protect every job?
Surely talk of job losses is just Project Fear?
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
Do you honestly believe they can protect every job?
Surely talk of job losses is just Project Fear?
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
Do you honestly believe they can protect every job?
Surely talk of job losses is just Project Fear?
What in a pandemic are you for real?
"Ah! Of course, the pandemic, nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit. As predicted the ensuing disaster will be blamed on everything but what was voted for. | |||
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
Do you honestly believe they can protect every job?
Surely talk of job losses is just Project Fear?
What in a pandemic are you for real?
Ah! Of course, the pandemic, nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit.
As predicted the ensuing disaster will be blamed on everything but what was voted for. "Unless you have failed to notice they are both going on at the same time and would suggest more people are unemployed due to covid than brexit unless you can show me anything different. | |||
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"when will people realise . its is not about the actual fish as they hatch well away from our fishing areas, we do not own one fish the are nomadic and swim a long way throughout their life, It is about who you allow fishing in your costal waters, the rites for catching fish were sold off over the years under conservative governments, by uk boats that couldnt make a living because the fish in our waters were not suitable for the uk market, and what we are arguing about now is so stupid and it is a way of our lot showing the country is fighting its corner and it was not their fault that brexit is a no deal, and the idiots who voted for it will believe them and say well done boris dont let them frenchies have OUR fish, while his cronies make a fortune on the markets, Not one of the government MPs will be made redundant and be forced onto the povery line, its easy to stand up and say no, I still have never heard one person who,s job will be gone and family lose their home and be on universal credit for the forseable future say good old boris he did it right let my lot starve but we got our brexit
There was a Tory on any questions last week who said there will be a few bumps along the road.
When pressed he admitted he was talking about job losses.
So losing a job and not being able to feed your family is a "bump '
That's the contempt these cunts have for us.
And the clincher is..you actually have people cheering them onto do this.
Do you honestly believe they can protect every job?
Surely talk of job losses is just Project Fear?
What in a pandemic are you for real?
Ah! Of course, the pandemic, nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit.
As predicted the ensuing disaster will be blamed on everything but what was voted for. Unless you have failed to notice they are both going on at the same time and would suggest more people are unemployed due to covid than brexit unless you can show me anything different. "Is this a Brexit benefit? That it's potentially not as bad as Covid-19 in the short term. | |||
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"We'll actually leave on WTF terms.
Macron must be pissing himself laughing at how self destructive we have been!
What can we do today Angela? .. oh yes let’s get the border guys to go on strike in Calais and see how long we can make the queues in England. 100 Francs it’s over 10km.
What fun they are going to have.
Because we know the French don't already have regular strikes dont we.
How many times have the French customs gone on strike in the past 20 years causing delays on the English side? I’ll give you a clue. It’s less than once.
But they have been going on strike though.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/20/french-customs-strike-continues-to-cause-cross-channel-travel-chaos
Guess you don’t have a sense or humour then!
I didn’t think for one moment that Merkel and Macron would actually have that chat either. Just in case you thought that was a claim too!
You like to pick fault with people on trivial side issues to claim minor victories but never say what’s good about Brexit.
There was never a plan from
Boris after Brexit . Tax haven status remains and that’s what was behind the whole thing.
Brexit is costing business now and it will be costing a lot of jobs without a deal. If you make something expensive to import people don’t buy it. That’s how tariffs work.
If a U.K. product goes up in price due to tariffs above an EU produced alternative then it won’t sell. If you don’t sell you close your business.
However the average tariff is only about 3 % so the impact should be minimal if any . Companies will simply adopt to changing circumstances. We have the advantage that not only will we continue to trade with the EU but will also trade with other countries on more competitive terns . The price of clothing will drop which in turn will help the less well off. It is difficult to see why anyone is too concerned about tax status . Any potentially punitive tariffs would simply mean that the UK would switch back to more manufacturing in the UK or source the product from another country . At world level all tariffs simply cancel out . MAN trucks have already promised that they will hold prices firm regardless of What is Negotiated. .
Tax status matters because the rich elite (Such as the owner of the Daily Mail) are not paying any tax so your lower paid employee is paying more. Why doesn’t that bother you?
The poorer would more likely be able to afford any clothes then.
We’ve always been able to trade with other countries at decent rates due to the EU’s financial muscle.
Tariffs of only 3%. Many companies in this country run at such small margins that 3% plus customs costs will wipe them out. In addition the EU can set the tariff at whatever they like.
It depends on what we are trying to sell and if they think they need to protect jobs in the EU. We need those sales to keep jobs as they account for 43% of our exports. You can’t replace that overnight if ever.
MAN sounds great. Let hope there’s enough Eastern European’s left in the U.K. to drive them!!
MAN will increase prices after a while and you know that as well as I do. It’s a comfort blanket for the operators to keep market share but they won’t lose money as their parent won’t let them.
The average margins in logistics actually used to run at 3% as there were too many family business running as enthusiasts rather than a business but I’m not sure today so I’ll check with the FTA.
While you’re commenting on Logistics suppliers . I’m assuming you know only around 10% of permits requested by hauliers have been granted so far both here and on the continent. A lot of carriers are going to stop coming to the U.K. which will increase our export costs. Supply and demand .
You’re right though companies will adapt. We have. We’re moving jobs to Europe . "But here’s the thing, Ford shuts factories all over Europe, Car production moves from one European factory to another & a factory closes. Xerox shuts down their HQ in Marlow & moves it to Dublin as do many others from various HQs in Europe. All of these things happen because of better incentives offered by one Member state over another. In the case of Dublin from memory it was a ten year tax break! Don’t hear much crying going on then do we? People still lost jobs, incomes, houses, but no one said “Hang on we are supposed to be one market? factories shouldn’t close in one member country & open in another due to local Incentives WTF?” The only people gaining from this model are the companies! Sure Carlos in Valencia got a job but Joe in Southampton lost his so a nett affect of naff all. Except the EU built someone a nice new factory in Spain & it’s rent free for five years for the 2500 jobs, meanwhile the other Government pays unemployment & housing benefit etc. to the 2500 who lost their jobs so again a nett effect of probably zero financially for the EU as a whole! Go drive around the Pyrenees on the Spanish side, fantastic big motorway sized roads with fck all traffic on them all 100% funded by the EU. I’m sure all the European skiers in their 4x4’s are grateful in the winter months but not sure how much regeneration has actually happened in the years since they built them. These are the sort of issues that made me vote leave but they are by no means the only ones. Fuck all to do with “Little England” fuck all to do with immigrants. Just the waste, inconsistency & double dealing that has gone on for years & years. S | |||
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