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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Jesus they just dug up the Welsh first minister. zzzz hes just sent me to sleep. Now Sturgeon Lego woman on. That pair nd what the US has as options makes Boris look normal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Jesus they just dug up the Welsh first minister. zzzz hes just sent me to sleep. Now Sturgeon Lego woman on. That pair nd what the US has as options makes Boris look normal "

What has this go to do with COVID?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Jesus they just dug up the Welsh first minister. zzzz hes just sent me to sleep. Now Sturgeon Lego woman on. That pair nd what the US has as options makes Boris look normal

What has this go to do with COVID? "

Government love

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Jesus they just dug up the Welsh first minister. zzzz hes just sent me to sleep. Now Sturgeon Lego woman on. That pair nd what the US has as options makes Boris look normal

What has this go to do with COVID?

Government love "

Pardon? You have put this in the COVID forum, I am not sure why

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By *s Fussy BiatchWoman  over a year ago

.

Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

What's a Lego woman?

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By *milingeyesWoman  over a year ago

mickeymousetown

Haha what a statement

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Am I saying that jesus people lighten up. Its laughing at the clueless government.

Who are in charge of covid.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

"

wow!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"What's a Lego woman?"

Seriously bad hair style and her personality

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality "

Thank god our pm doesnt have that issue

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality "

Boris?..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality

Thank god our pm doesnt have that issue "

Tbf id take him over them two. But their all quite clueless!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Am I saying that jesus people lighten up. Its laughing at the clueless government.

Who are in charge of covid. "

I think Covid begs to differ!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality

Thank god our pm doesnt have that issue "

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Am I saying that jesus people lighten up. Its laughing at the clueless government.

Who are in charge of covid.

I think Covid begs to differ! "

Well if covid is in charge we are all screwed forever

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By *milingeyesWoman  over a year ago

mickeymousetown

Well answer properly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality

Thank god our pm doesnt have that issue "

The blonde yeti

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Am I saying that jesus people lighten up. Its laughing at the clueless government.

Who are in charge of covid.

I think Covid begs to differ!

Well if covid is in charge we are all screwed forever "

Well it kinda took over the world....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well answer properly."

???

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By *un4us2getherCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Well answer properly."

She cant, shes a Boris fan.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well answer properly.

She cant, shes a Boris fan. "

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By *s Fussy BiatchWoman  over a year ago

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

wow!"

Yes wow what a thing to say

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well answer properly.

She cant, shes a Boris fan. "

Ooo. I must have missed where she said that

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well answer properly.

She cant, shes a Boris fan. "

Answer what the question that wasnt asked. Doh

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By * and R cple4Couple  over a year ago

swansea


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

wow!

Yes wow what a thing to say "

I can say what I like love

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk

Yea fuck the rest of the nation OP.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well answer properly.

She cant, shes a Boris fan.

Ooo. I must have missed where she said that "

Precisely I didn't I said their all as bad as each other

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By *s Fussy BiatchWoman  over a year ago

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

wow!

Yes wow what a thing to say

I can say what I like love "

Of course you can, if you want to make yourself look like an idiot that's your call who am I to point out what a stupid thing you came out with. Hey ho crack on

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yea fuck the rest of the nation OP. "

Did I say that? I said both so called leaders are useless. I also dont rate mine much.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I believe that the lady was making a comment on the self important, bombasts, who head the devolved nations, with more covid19, bollocks, restrictions. Yes glad I am English.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

wow!

Yes wow what a thing to say

Of course you can, if you want to make yourself look like an idiot that's your call who am I to point out what a stupid thing you came out with. Hey ho crack on"

Your stupid opinion

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Blimey there’s some thinly veiled animosity in here today

Have I missed something?

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk

Nothing like a good division post on a Friday

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

"

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I believe that the lady was making a comment on the self important, bombasts, who head the devolved nations, with more covid19, bollocks, restrictions. Yes glad I am English. "

Thank you someone without a chip on their shoulder. It was a joke on these clowns who are supposedly in charge.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Blimey there’s some thinly veiled animosity in here today

Have I missed something?"

Think they all need to get laid

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of "

Are you proud of the current government?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey there’s some thinly veiled animosity in here today

Have I missed something?

Think they all need to get laid "

Don’t we all

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government? "

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Nothing like a good division post on a Friday "

It was more on the fact the leaders are useless. Have zero personality to be in charge. Boris being just as bad

Quite light hearted and straight over people's heads

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By * and R cple4Couple  over a year ago

swansea


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality

Thank god our pm doesnt have that issue

Tbf id take him over them two. But their all quite clueless!"

Yeah he’s doing such a great job with tier 1,2,3 add onto that him fucking over Manchester and let’s not even get started on him and his cronies and the free school meals...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey there’s some thinly veiled animosity in here today

Have I missed something?

Think they all need to get laid

Don’t we all "

Unfortunately, there appears to be no provision for casual hookups in the Covid plan in any of the uk.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nothing like a good division post on a Friday

It was more on the fact the leaders are useless. Have zero personality to be in charge. Boris being just as bad

Quite light hearted and straight over people's heads"

I agree, they are all useless, your OP was a bit vague though,

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless. "

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless. "

So, you are not proud of the current government?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey there’s some thinly veiled animosity in here today

Have I missed something?

Think they all need to get laid

Don’t we all "

Amen to that!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality

Thank god our pm doesnt have that issue

Tbf id take him over them two. But their all quite clueless!Yeah he’s doing such a great job with tier 1,2,3 add onto that him fucking over Manchester and let’s not even get started on him and his cronies and the free school meals... "

What would you have him do re covid?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

So, you are not proud of the current government? "

I don’t do politics so it don’t matter who is the government. So.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Blimey there’s some thinly veiled animosity in here today

Have I missed something?

Think they all need to get laid

Don’t we all

Unfortunately, there appears to be no provision for casual hookups in the Covid plan in any of the uk. "

No afraid thats going to be a long time coming. No pun intended

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey there’s some thinly veiled animosity in here today

Have I missed something?

Think they all need to get laid

Don’t we all

Unfortunately, there appears to be no provision for casual hookups in the Covid plan in any of the uk.

No afraid thats going to be a long time coming. No pun intended "

Hmmm. My last orgasm was March.

It’s not been a great year for any of us.

Fuck you covid 19

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

2020 is still better than my 1st wife .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

So, you are not proud of the current government?

I don’t do politics so it don’t matter who is the government. So....."

Ah, so your reason for posting on a thread about the governments response to COVID is??

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

Given how much of a petty power trip the First Minister for Wales is on right now.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Given how much of a petty power trip the First Minister for Wales is on right now....."

I think him nd Sturgeon its all going to disappear after a few weeks of their rules. Well it didn't work in full lockdown in spring summer. Good luck during the winter. Our rates have gone down in the N east so tier 2 does work!

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Jesus they just dug up the Welsh first minister. zzzz hes just sent me to sleep. Now Sturgeon Lego woman on. That pair nd what the US has as options makes Boris look normal

What has this go to do with COVID? "

This is a political thread not a covid thread

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"What's a Lego woman?

Seriously bad hair style and her personality

Thank god our pm doesnt have that issue "

pmslll I can’t breath

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it."

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories."

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc"

You could argue that the Tories who have been in charge for over 10 years are responsible for the poor state of the UK from a financial perspective. Not to mention the B word.

If you take NZ as an example, it was the clear communication, keeping their own government in line, no bullshit approach that was good. None of which was impacted by financial matters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc"

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe "

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically "

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up"

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got."

The only thing they're doing their best at is shovelling huge amounts of money over to their mates.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got."

If this is the best they can do. Maybe we'd be better off with no government, and just take our chances in a Mad Max style society.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

If this is the best they can do. Maybe we'd be better off with no government, and just take our chances in a Mad Max style society."

Wouldn't put it past Patel to introduce a thunderdome

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got."

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

The only thing they're doing their best at is shovelling huge amounts of money over to their mates."

Far more billions have gone to the unemployed, out of work and small business people, do the maths instead of drama.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles "

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

The only thing they're doing their best at is shovelling huge amounts of money over to their mates.

Far more billions have gone to the unemployed, out of work and small business people, do the maths instead of drama."

12 billion on a test and trace system that's broken, much of it given to the likes of Serco. I'll just leave that here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

The only thing they're doing their best at is shovelling huge amounts of money over to their mates.

Far more billions have gone to the unemployed, out of work and small business people, do the maths instead of drama."

Ah, so it’s ok to waste the tax payers money on a useless track and trace system then?? You do realise that every penny that is paid toward furlough will be recouped through higher taxes??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events."

How many leaders boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients? You don’t need hindsight to realise that was idiotic?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

The only thing they're doing their best at is shovelling huge amounts of money over to their mates.

Far more billions have gone to the unemployed, out of work and small business people, do the maths instead of drama.

12 billion on a test and trace system that's broken, much of it given to the likes of Serco. I'll just leave that here."

Leave it where you like, the maths is still wrong

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events."

In fairness. They were constantly criticised and told to follow scientific advice and advice from the WHO all along.

People were rushing to suggest better ways to handle the situation.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

How many leaders boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients? You don’t need hindsight to realise that was idiotic? "

Nothing to do with trying to bolster the nation subdue panic and try to keep things together?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events."

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

How many leaders boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients? You don’t need hindsight to realise that was idiotic?

Nothing to do with trying to bolster the nation subdue panic and try to keep things together?"

Hahahaha, so shaking hands with COVID patients was good for moral and was meant to prevent panic ? Gotcha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have the tiniest suspicion warmandwet aint gonna listen to anything they don't wanna hear.

Have a wonderful day

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere . "

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different"

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

How many leaders boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients? You don’t need hindsight to realise that was idiotic?

Nothing to do with trying to bolster the nation subdue panic and try to keep things together?

Hahahaha, so shaking hands with COVID patients was good for moral and was meant to prevent panic ? Gotcha "

I didn't see any panic so it must have worked except for the crazies who went out bog roll hunting of course

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

How many leaders boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients? You don’t need hindsight to realise that was idiotic?

Nothing to do with trying to bolster the nation subdue panic and try to keep things together?

Hahahaha, so shaking hands with COVID patients was good for moral and was meant to prevent panic ? Gotcha

I didn't see any panic so it must have worked except for the crazies who went out bog roll hunting of course "

The crazies were the people who decided to follow Boris’s example and get close to people with COVID, compared to buying bog roll that was really stupid

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe "

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

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"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

The only thing they're doing their best at is shovelling huge amounts of money over to their mates.

Far more billions have gone to the unemployed, out of work and small business people, do the maths instead of drama.

12 billion on a test and trace system that's broken, much of it given to the likes of Serco. I'll just leave that here."

Tbf, they might as well have given it to group 4 or British layland as the British public are too stubborn to isolate when told to.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1"

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

The only thing they're doing their best at is shovelling huge amounts of money over to their mates.

Far more billions have gone to the unemployed, out of work and small business people, do the maths instead of drama.

12 billion on a test and trace system that's broken, much of it given to the likes of Serco. I'll just leave that here.

Tbf, they might as well have given it to group 4 or British layland as the British public are too stubborn to isolate when told to. "

I have to agree, but it doesn’t help when MPs from all parties including the chief government advisor deicide to break and bend the rules to suit themselves

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

How many leaders boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients? You don’t need hindsight to realise that was idiotic?

Nothing to do with trying to bolster the nation subdue panic and try to keep things together?

Hahahaha, so shaking hands with COVID patients was good for moral and was meant to prevent panic ? Gotcha "

Boris getting covid did raise moral.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

How many leaders boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients? You don’t need hindsight to realise that was idiotic?

Nothing to do with trying to bolster the nation subdue panic and try to keep things together?

Hahahaha, so shaking hands with COVID patients was good for moral and was meant to prevent panic ? Gotcha

Boris getting covid did raise moral."

Ha, apparently he caught it to prevent panic

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then? "

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe"

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ? "

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe"

Be thankful for the work done by the NHS. Places like Spain and Italy have great health systems but they got overwhelmed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table."

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

Be thankful for the work done by the NHS. Places like Spain and Italy have great health systems but they got overwhelmed "

It will be sorely missed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table."

Actually we are fifth, behind the might of Andorra and San Marino as well as Belgium and Spain , according to Johns Hopkins

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now? "

apparantly COVID wasmt in the top ten of cases of deaths in the U.K. for the last month ?

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby

Dementia was at the top

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

Be thankful for the work done by the NHS. Places like Spain and Italy have great health systems but they got overwhelmed

It will be sorely missed."

Heroes everyone of them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now? apparantly COVID wasmt in the top ten of cases of deaths in the U.K. for the last month ?"

That is good news, that must mean the restrictions, masks and other measures are working

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now? "

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Actually we are fifth, behind the might of Andorra and San Marino as well as Belgium and Spain , according to Johns Hopkins "

Sorry 5th, yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Actually we are fifth, behind the might of Andorra and San Marino as well as Belgium and Spain , according to Johns Hopkins

Sorry 5th, yes"

And why was it ok for the government to compare the UK with other European nations in March, april & May but not a good idea now?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe"

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Actually we are fifth, behind the might of Andorra and San Marino as well as Belgium and Spain , according to Johns Hopkins

Sorry 5th, yes

And why was it ok for the government to compare the UK with other European nations in March, april & May but not a good idea now? "

Because most people have realised you can't compare "apples with oranges"

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves? "

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Actually we are fifth, behind the might of Andorra and San Marino as well as Belgium and Spain , according to Johns Hopkins

Sorry 5th, yes

And why was it ok for the government to compare the UK with other European nations in March, april & May but not a good idea now?

Because most people have realised you can't compare "apples with oranges""

People? or do you mean the government? Why do you think we have the highest number of deaths in Europe?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries"

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Actually we are fifth, behind the might of Andorra and San Marino as well as Belgium and Spain , according to Johns Hopkins

Sorry 5th, yes

And why was it ok for the government to compare the UK with other European nations in March, april & May but not a good idea now?

Because most people have realised you can't compare "apples with oranges"

People? or do you mean the government? Why do you think we have the highest number of deaths in Europe? "

We do NOT have the highest number of deaths by million of population

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges? "

Now you're just being silly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly "

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not? "

No, we are comparing quality of the testing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

No, we are comparing quality of the testing"

With other European nations?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

No, we are comparing quality of the testing

With other European nations? "

Any nation, that you have first hand knowledge of will do. Your opinion is not required just the facts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

No, we are comparing quality of the testing

With other European nations?

Any nation, that you have first hand knowledge of will do. Your opinion is not required just the facts. "

But we we have a ‘different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play’ comparing with other nations is like comparing apples with oranges? Correct

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

No, we are comparing quality of the testing

With other European nations?

Any nation, that you have first hand knowledge of will do. Your opinion is not required just the facts.

But we we have a ‘different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play’ comparing with other nations is like comparing apples with oranges? Correct "

Absolutely, who did you get that quote from So lets refer back to how then are you measuring the quality of the UK testing system?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

No, we are comparing quality of the testing

With other European nations?

Any nation, that you have first hand knowledge of will do. Your opinion is not required just the facts.

But we we have a ‘different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play’ comparing with other nations is like comparing apples with oranges? Correct

Absolutely, who did you get that quote from So lets refer back to how then are you measuring the quality of the UK testing system?"

I am not, you are? How are you comparing the quality of testing in the UK?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

No, we are comparing quality of the testing

With other European nations?

Any nation, that you have first hand knowledge of will do. Your opinion is not required just the facts.

But we we have a ‘different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play’ comparing with other nations is like comparing apples with oranges? Correct

Absolutely, who did you get that quote from So lets refer back to how then are you measuring the quality of the UK testing system?

I am not, you are? How are you comparing the quality of testing in the UK? "

I refer you to your statement "Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Cos being English somehow makes you better than any other nationality?

England...The only nation in the world that it’s citizens can’t be proud of

Are you proud of the current government?

I don’t vote. And whoever was the government would do the same job. All clueless.

Think to be fair to Boris hes facing something no one has. So not sure how anyone else would deal with it.

We can be sure how other people would deal with it. By looking at how other people have dealt with it.

Mostly, better than Boris and the Tories.

Such as where ? For eg New Zealand seem to have handled it better. However their country was in much better position financially before covid etc

The UK have the highest deaths in Europe

Not per million of population they haven't, and you can't compare it realistically

It is difficult to compare, but this government makes mistakes and instead of admitting and learning from them just tells lies and blunders into the next fuck up

They have to be dynamic as the situation requires it, trying to avoid panic, not demoralise and try to maintain moral. They have to rely on people and experts who have never lived through a pandemic and so of course the experts will also make mistakes. Should the government admit the "sage" staff got it wrong and cause more confusion or should they just let the unwashed masses live happily in their ignorance?

They are doing the best they can with what they've got.

Are they? Is the track and trace system the ‘best they can do’? Was the A level results fiasco ‘the best they can do’ . The lies they told about testing capacity ‘the best they can do’? A PM who boasted about shaking hands with COVID patients then catching the virus , is that ‘the best they can do’? The financially package they are offering is very good the rest has been a shambles

Any proof anyone else in UK could have done better (without hindsight), i don't remember anybody rushing forward claiming they had a better method or solution. Many fcuk wits did claim AFTER the events.

We were 2 weeks behind most of Europe so we had longer and the benefit of watching how the virus spread elsewhere .

that is just comparing apples with oranges and yes both are fruits and round, the rest is all different

Is it? Do we have a different type of COVID than Italy, France and Spain? We had a head start , now we have the most deaths in Europe

we have a different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play. You have no proof it started in Europe before here, nobody has. We've covered "most deaths" we are about 6th on the table not number 1

Most deaths in Europe, I thought it would make more sense to compare the UK to its nearest neighbours, do we have the worst health care and transport system in Europe then?

6th in Europe, do the research. The systems are different i didn't say better or worse, but it all makes a difference when discussing the pandemic dynamics.

EG better health system might mean a more accurate figure of deaths, a worse transport system, easier movement of infected persons. This not UK i am talking about it is Europe

We have the most deaths in Europe, do your research . When Italy had the highest deaths the government were always using them as a comparison , why can’t we still use them to compare ?

Dynamics, things change deaths per million of population, we are 6th on the european table.

Who mentioned the death rate? We have the most deaths in Europe, and the second highest percentage of case rate . The government were very keen to compare the UK to the likes of Italy , France & Spain at the start of the pandemic but stopped when we over took them , why? Why was it ok at the start but irrelevant now?

Even if you measure by no of cases we are still not number 1 by million of population, we are 15th in Europe

Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?

I don't know how you are measuring the "poor testing" but i know first hand the UK is doing far more than many european countries

How do you know? I thought comparisons with other European countries was like comparing apples with oranges?

Now you're just being silly

Am I? Are we comparing with other European countries or not?

No, we are comparing quality of the testing

With other European nations?

Any nation, that you have first hand knowledge of will do. Your opinion is not required just the facts.

But we we have a ‘different population, different demographic, different health system, different transportation system, may factors are at play’ comparing with other nations is like comparing apples with oranges? Correct

Absolutely, who did you get that quote from So lets refer back to how then are you measuring the quality of the UK testing system?

I am not, you are? How are you comparing the quality of testing in the UK?

I refer you to your statement "Could that be down to poor testing? I am not sure what that proves?" "

Yeah, it was a question rather than a statement. So the U.K. has the highest testing rate in Europe? That is encouraging, do you think testing works better with a good and reliable track and trace system in place?

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By *ogJamMan  over a year ago

Chicago


"Jesus they just dug up the Welsh first minister. zzzz hes just sent me to sleep. Now Sturgeon Lego woman on. That pair nd what the US has as options makes Boris look normal "

The reality check has come to roost. Most politicians have not a clue what to do with the current world situation they have to save lives they have to make sure economy's run they have to raise taxes its world wide not just there in your country. Right now you don't really want an exiting leader you want a sensible one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Those demigogues, and petty tyrants over the border must make people think do we really want to be a independent nation? More petty rules and nonsense to destroy the economy and mental health of the nation. Very glad I am in England.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Those demigogues, and petty tyrants over the border must make people think do we really want to be a independent nation? More petty rules and nonsense to destroy the economy and mental health of the nation. Very glad I am in England. "

Whilst Im very glad that your glad you are in england Im very very very glad I live in Wales.

Id take Mark or Nicola over Boris any day of the week.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Those demigogues, and petty tyrants over the border must make people think do we really want to be a independent nation? More petty rules and nonsense to destroy the economy and mental health of the nation. Very glad I am in England.

Whilst Im very glad that your glad you are in england Im very very very glad I live in Wales.

Id take Mark or Nicola over Boris any day of the week."

Absolutely this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sooner have bojo, at least he is not all pretentious and puffed up, with pompous self importance. I would like a independent England.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sooner have bojo, at least he is not all pretentious and puffed up, with pompous self importance. I would like a independent England. "

So would I.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sooner have bojo, at least he is not all pretentious and puffed up, with pompous self importance. I would like a independent England. "

Boris is a poor excuse of a man who blatantly lies through his teeth. He hasnt got the courage or the decency to admit when he has been wrong or made mistakes . Instead he tries to lay the blame at anyones door rather than him and his goverment answer for their actions.

Him and his croonies have no idea how many in the UK struggling everyday just to get by. As long as him and his wealthy friends are alright why worry about anyone else. He even covers and makes excuses for them when they break covid rules but then expects everyone else to abide by the rules.

Hes is a gutless spineless self serving hyporcrite who treats people who beg to differ with him with contempt and disdain. England are welcome to him.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Sooner have bojo, at least he is not all pretentious and puffed up, with pompous self importance. I would like a independent England. "

I'm assuming this is a wind up?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Sooner have bojo, at least he is not all pretentious and puffed up, with pompous self importance. I would like a independent England.

Boris is a poor excuse of a man who blatantly lies through his teeth. He hasnt got the courage or the decency to admit when he has been wrong or made mistakes . Instead he tries to lay the blame at anyones door rather than him and his goverment answer for their actions.

Him and his croonies have no idea how many in the UK struggling everyday just to get by. As long as him and his wealthy friends are alright why worry about anyone else. He even covers and makes excuses for them when they break covid rules but then expects everyone else to abide by the rules.

Hes is a gutless spineless self serving hyporcrite who treats people who beg to differ with him with contempt and disdain. England are welcome to him.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sooner have bojo, at least he is not all pretentious and puffed up, with pompous self importance. I would like a independent England.

Boris is a poor excuse of a man who blatantly lies through his teeth. He hasnt got the courage or the decency to admit when he has been wrong or made mistakes . Instead he tries to lay the blame at anyones door rather than him and his goverment answer for their actions.

Him and his croonies have no idea how many in the UK struggling everyday just to get by. As long as him and his wealthy friends are alright why worry about anyone else. He even covers and makes excuses for them when they break covid rules but then expects everyone else to abide by the rules.

Hes is a gutless spineless self serving hyporcrite who treats people who beg to differ with him with contempt and disdain. England are welcome to him.

"

I thought that was giving him credit he doesn't deserve

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No wind up, England goes its own way, and so does the rest of the UK. Though I would give Ireland the best possible trade deal, after leaving the EU. They were once part of our country, but greatly wronged, so would give them preferential treatment on any trade deal.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"Sooner have bojo, at least he is not all pretentious and puffed up, with pompous self importance. I would like a independent England. "

And So the once mighty British Empire shrinks to just little England?

All because far too many English people believe that “others” should be punished for daring to question the sheer superiority of the Omnipotent English.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"No wind up, England goes its own way, and so does the rest of the UK. Though I would give Ireland the best possible trade deal, after leaving the EU. They were once part of our country, but greatly wronged, so would give them preferential treatment on any trade deal. "

And what would the WTO say about that “preferential” deal?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"No wind up, England goes its own way, and so does the rest of the UK. Though I would give Ireland the best possible trade deal, after leaving the EU. They were once part of our country, but greatly wronged, so would give them preferential treatment on any trade deal. "

You dont think johnson is pretentious or poofed up?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

What miracle do Scotland and Wales think is going to happen in a few weeks?? Id love to know

Considering covid 19 wasn't eradicated in 4 months. Stopping selling everything in site woo!

Our tiers are working considering where student ridden, and figures have gone up since Sept. Not due to pubs the figures are slowly decreasing and our economy is still going as best it can. So yep I'd take that any day over a 2 week loss for so many . So just go back to normal after 2 weeks

. Realising whoops it aint made much difference to what we were doing before. Except some businesses have gone under and people are isolated nd lonely. Poor mental health is through the roof.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What miracle do Scotland and Wales think is going to happen in a few weeks?? Id love to know

Considering covid 19 wasn't eradicated in 4 months. Stopping selling everything in site woo!

Our tiers are working considering where student ridden, and figures have gone up since Sept. Not due to pubs the figures are slowly decreasing and our economy is still going as best it can. So yep I'd take that any day over a 2 week loss for so many . So just go back to normal after 2 weeks

. Realising whoops it aint made much difference to what we were doing before. Except some businesses have gone under and people are isolated nd lonely. Poor mental health is through the roof. "

Not really sure where Wales or Scotland have said they are expecting a mircale or that they will be going back to normal in 2 weeks.

Only yesterday Welsh minister Lee Waters said this firebreak was unlikely to be the last in Wales.

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