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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich

Nice one Boris

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man 2 weeks ago

Not far away

how many posts do you think it will take for the usual negativity to surface here?

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"

how many posts do you think it will take for the usual negativity to surface here?"

3?

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man 2 weeks ago

Not far away

you won't be far away with that guess!

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich

It wont be long for the doom and gloom brigade to appear.

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man 2 weeks ago

Not far away

who will be first I wonder??

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"who will be first I wonder?? "

They gotta find out what we're talking about first, they only search for bad news

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man 2 weeks ago

Not far away


"who will be first I wonder??

They gotta find out what we're talking about first, they only search for bad news "

that's very true

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By *onghMan 2 weeks ago

cardiff

Is this a new trade deal?

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By *ercuryMan 2 weeks ago

Grantham

Where's Lionel? Is he on the naughty step?

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"Is this a new trade deal?"

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man 2 weeks ago

Not far away


"Where's Lionel? Is he on the naughty step? "

lol I am quite new here but his name crops up a lot when there is something negative to say! guess he is in the sin bin!

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich

Australia next month by the look of it that will be 3 in the CPTPP so should open up a chance to be part of that.

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By *onghMan 2 weeks ago

cardiff

So the Canada deal just duplicates what we already have?

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By *kstallionMan 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Is this a new trade deal?

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology "

same as what happened with Japan then. Take a deal and improve it tailored to ouselfes rather than lots of countries

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So the Canada deal just duplicates what we already have?"

And the prize goes to

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By *onghMan 2 weeks ago

cardiff

Improved in what way?

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich


"Is this a new trade deal?

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology

same as what happened with Japan then. Take a deal and improve it tailored to ouselfes rather than lots of countries"

Exactly but as i said also a big step in joing the CPTPP taken from a gov press release.

he UK has taken a major step in the process of joining CPTPP (Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership), one of the world’s largest and most dynamic free trade areas.

International Trade Secretary, Liz Truss, alongside the current chair of the CPTPP Commission, Mexican Economy Minister Graciela Márquez, opened discussions between senior UK trade officials and Chief Negotiators from all 11 members of the Partnership to discuss potential UK accession.

This is the first time the UK has met with Chief Negotiators from all 11 members of the Partnership to discuss UK accession, and the first time CPTPP members have had such a discussion with a country seeking membership since the Partnership was created in 2018.

The UK held preparatory conversations with all CPTPP members. If the UK decides to apply, it will enter into a formal accession negotiation with all member states.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So the Canada deal just duplicates what we already have?"

We have been told by remainers for the last 4 years that you can't just do that and if you do it will take years

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By *oggoneMan 2 weeks ago

Derry


"Is this a new trade deal?

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology

same as what happened with Japan then. Take a deal and improve it tailored to ouselfes rather than lots of countries"

The Japan-EU deal has a favoured nation clause, meaning Japan can't extend better terms to another country.

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man 2 weeks ago

Not far away


"So the Canada deal just duplicates what we already have?

And the prize goes to "

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"Is this a new trade deal?

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology

same as what happened with Japan then. Take a deal and improve it tailored to ouselfes rather than lots of countries

The Japan-EU deal has a favoured nation clause, meaning Japan can't extend better terms to another country. "

We don't need better terms just different terms. We don't sell many olives

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By *onghMan 2 weeks ago

cardiff

So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had."

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man 2 weeks ago

Not far away


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh"

who would have thought it!

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By *onghMan 2 weeks ago

cardiff

Are the EU currently negotiating a new deal with Canada? If so, I guess we'll find out in the course.

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh"

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So the Canada deal just duplicates what we already have?

We have been told by remainers for the last 4 years that you can't just do that and if you do it will take years "

So four years ago, someone said something would take "years" and you're ridiculing them for that?

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"Is this a new trade deal?

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology

same as what happened with Japan then. Take a deal and improve it tailored to ouselfes rather than lots of countries

The Japan-EU deal has a favoured nation clause, meaning Japan can't extend better terms to another country. "

But can offer the same to the EU and others .

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By *kstallionMan 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Is this a new trade deal?

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology

same as what happened with Japan then. Take a deal and improve it tailored to ouselfes rather than lots of countries

The Japan-EU deal has a favoured nation clause, meaning Japan can't extend better terms to another country. "

no it means if they offer any improvements to another country (in this case the UK) it also has to be offered to the EU. The improvements center around whats best for the UK. This may or may not be also good for the EU. It was covered on the Japan thread

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha "

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

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By *oggoneMan 2 weeks ago

Derry


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had."

Boris got to be king, which was the entire purpose of the exercise.

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By *kstallionMan 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Is this a new trade deal?

It replicates the deal the EU has with them and with possible advantages on deals to do with technology

same as what happened with Japan then. Take a deal and improve it tailored to ouselfes rather than lots of countriesExactly but as i said also a big step in joing the CPTPP taken from a gov press release.

he UK has taken a major step in the process of joining CPTPP (Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership), one of the world’s largest and most dynamic free trade areas.

International Trade Secretary, Liz Truss, alongside the current chair of the CPTPP Commission, Mexican Economy Minister Graciela Márquez, opened discussions between senior UK trade officials and Chief Negotiators from all 11 members of the Partnership to discuss potential UK accession.

This is the first time the UK has met with Chief Negotiators from all 11 members of the Partnership to discuss UK accession, and the first time CPTPP members have had such a discussion with a country seeking membership since the Partnership was created in 2018.

The UK held preparatory conversations with all CPTPP members. If the UK decides to apply, it will enter into a formal accession negotiation with all member states."

the CPTPP is a big prize and if I am not mistaken even if a county is a member it is not restricted from being a member of other trade partnerships. For instance I think Australia are in the CPTPP and also part of the new Asia tade partnership

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By *ssexbloke72Man 2 weeks ago

Chigwell

Well it didn't take long for the doom and gloom people to turn up did it.! Lol

Also it's worth remembering that under EU rules no country can negotiate any deals whist a member of the EU.

So as the UK left the EU on 1st February 2020 all negotiations and deals have been carried out in 10 months and not 4 years.

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

"

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha "

well i would say one way we will be better off is we wont have to pay billions to trade with them now you may not think that is being better off but i do.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won."

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"Well it didn't take long for the doom and gloom people to turn up did it.! Lol

Also it's worth remembering that under EU rules no country can negotiate any deals whist a member of the EU.

So as the UK left the EU on 1st February 2020 all negotiations and deals have been carried out in 10 months and not 4 years."

You guys seem to be celebrating a "win", which in reality is just one small thing what we have managed not to lose.

If we win back all the things we lost from Brexit, would you celebrate wildly? And wouldn't that just be, being in the EU.

Leavers often accuse people of being "doom and gloom". But the reality of brexit is that the best case scenario, is still a massive bag of shit. So are you simply arguing that ignorance is bliss?

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news? "

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"Well it didn't take long for the doom and gloom people to turn up did it.! Lol

Also it's worth remembering that under EU rules no country can negotiate any deals whist a member of the EU.

So as the UK left the EU on 1st February 2020 all negotiations and deals have been carried out in 10 months and not 4 years.

You guys seem to be celebrating a "win", which in reality is just one small thing what we have managed not to lose.

If we win back all the things we lost from Brexit, would you celebrate wildly? And wouldn't that just be, being in the EU.

Leavers often accuse people of being "doom and gloom". But the reality of brexit is that the best case scenario, is still a massive bag of shit. So are you simply arguing that ignorance is bliss?"

What, you want your random questions answering?

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. "

so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. "

Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

"

We could always refuse to be part of any political changes with a veto on such subjects. Hence why Denmark held up Maastricht as no one could move with everyone. But you knew that of course.

Can you tell me Boris plans as he’s very quiet about the new future of the U.K.? Tax wise and deregulation wise which although hinted at in a positive way for business has shown no details of how it will effect employees. Why is it a secret?

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha well i would say one way we will be better off is we wont have to pay billions to trade with them now you may not think that is being better off but i do."

The single issue of the banks funds moving on its own is now equal and soon to be more of a loss in tax than we paid into the EU. So sorry not the case at all. This isn’t taking into account the costs of customs and loss of trade. That’s massive losses.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

We could always refuse to be part of any political changes with a veto on such subjects. Hence why Denmark held up Maastricht as no one could move with everyone. But you knew that of course.

Can you tell me Boris plans as he’s very quiet about the new future of the U.K.? Tax wise and deregulation wise which although hinted at in a positive way for business has shown no details of how it will effect employees. Why is it a secret? "

No I can't but if I don't like them I can vote him out. How do you remove EU laws once they are in place?

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

We could always refuse to be part of any political changes with a veto on such subjects. Hence why Denmark held up Maastricht as no one could move with everyone. But you knew that of course.

Can you tell me Boris plans as he’s very quiet about the new future of the U.K.? Tax wise and deregulation wise which although hinted at in a positive way for business has shown no details of how it will effect employees. Why is it a secret?

No I can't but if I don't like them I can vote him out. How do you remove EU laws once they are in place? "

When was the last time legislation changes was so high up you’re agenda in the U.K. when you voted as that’s fascinating and like the U.K. all countries can decide not to ratify. You’re talking as though we couldn’t vote for EU MP’s too?

This idea that the EU had control is a negative view. We were the EU just as voters in the U.K. are the U.K. We all had a say.

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?"

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

We could always refuse to be part of any political changes with a veto on such subjects. Hence why Denmark held up Maastricht as no one could move with everyone. But you knew that of course.

Can you tell me Boris plans as he’s very quiet about the new future of the U.K.? Tax wise and deregulation wise which although hinted at in a positive way for business has shown no details of how it will effect employees. Why is it a secret?

No I can't but if I don't like them I can vote him out. How do you remove EU laws once they are in place?

When was the last time legislation changes was so high up you’re agenda in the U.K. when you voted as that’s fascinating and like the U.K. all countries can decide not to ratify. You’re talking as though we couldn’t vote for EU MP’s too?

This idea that the EU had control is a negative view. We were the EU just as voters in the U.K. are the U.K. We all had a say. "

If the Tory government puts an EU law into place and the majority of this country does not like it what can they do about it? Electing a Labour government is no use because they cannot remove it. Do you really not comprehend how undemocratic being a member of the EU is?

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright. "

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

"

Sure. So what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Sure. So what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that? "

More unrelated questions.

No matter how many random questions you ask, Brexit will not magic into some kind of positive for the UK.

These threads are depressing.

People in this country haven't learned a thing.

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

We could always refuse to be part of any political changes with a veto on such subjects. Hence why Denmark held up Maastricht as no one could move with everyone. But you knew that of course.

Can you tell me Boris plans as he’s very quiet about the new future of the U.K.? Tax wise and deregulation wise which although hinted at in a positive way for business has shown no details of how it will effect employees. Why is it a secret?

No I can't but if I don't like them I can vote him out. How do you remove EU laws once they are in place?

When was the last time legislation changes was so high up you’re agenda in the U.K. when you voted as that’s fascinating and like the U.K. all countries can decide not to ratify. You’re talking as though we couldn’t vote for EU MP’s too?

This idea that the EU had control is a negative view. We were the EU just as voters in the U.K. are the U.K. We all had a say.

If the Tory government puts an EU law into place and the majority of this country does not like it what can they do about it? Electing a Labour government is no use because they cannot remove it. Do you really not comprehend how undemocratic being a member of the EU is? "

No you’re elected MEP are there to fight for changes you want. You seem to believe it’s 27 countries against us. The EU is a broad range of politic views and repeatedly countries such as Poland sided with changes we wanted.

With your logic Yorkshire should be an independent country as they will want different things to Westminster so democracy doesn’t work for them.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Sure. So what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?

More unrelated questions.

No matter how many random questions you ask, Brexit will not magic into some kind of positive for the UK.

These threads are depressing.

People in this country haven't learned a thing. "

It's not unrelated at all, other blocs have trade rules sure, but they don't need all the waste of politic bollocks to go along with it do they? Why does Europe?

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

We could always refuse to be part of any political changes with a veto on such subjects. Hence why Denmark held up Maastricht as no one could move with everyone. But you knew that of course.

Can you tell me Boris plans as he’s very quiet about the new future of the U.K.? Tax wise and deregulation wise which although hinted at in a positive way for business has shown no details of how it will effect employees. Why is it a secret?

No I can't but if I don't like them I can vote him out. How do you remove EU laws once they are in place?

When was the last time legislation changes was so high up you’re agenda in the U.K. when you voted as that’s fascinating and like the U.K. all countries can decide not to ratify. You’re talking as though we couldn’t vote for EU MP’s too?

This idea that the EU had control is a negative view. We were the EU just as voters in the U.K. are the U.K. We all had a say.

If the Tory government puts an EU law into place and the majority of this country does not like it what can they do about it? Electing a Labour government is no use because they cannot remove it. Do you really not comprehend how undemocratic being a member of the EU is?

No you’re elected MEP are there to fight for changes you want. You seem to believe it’s 27 countries against us. The EU is a broad range of politic views and repeatedly countries such as Poland sided with changes we wanted.

With your logic Yorkshire should be an independent country as they will want different things to Westminster so democracy doesn’t work for them. "

Oh dear

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By *exy7Man 2 weeks ago

Bristol


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

We could always refuse to be part of any political changes with a veto on such subjects. Hence why Denmark held up Maastricht as no one could move with everyone. But you knew that of course.

Can you tell me Boris plans as he’s very quiet about the new future of the U.K.? Tax wise and deregulation wise which although hinted at in a positive way for business has shown no details of how it will effect employees. Why is it a secret?

No I can't but if I don't like them I can vote him out. How do you remove EU laws once they are in place?

When was the last time legislation changes was so high up you’re agenda in the U.K. when you voted as that’s fascinating and like the U.K. all countries can decide not to ratify. You’re talking as though we couldn’t vote for EU MP’s too?

This idea that the EU had control is a negative view. We were the EU just as voters in the U.K. are the U.K. We all had a say.

If the Tory government puts an EU law into place and the majority of this country does not like it what can they do about it? Electing a Labour government is no use because they cannot remove it. Do you really not comprehend how undemocratic being a member of the EU is?

No you’re elected MEP are there to fight for changes you want. You seem to believe it’s 27 countries against us. The EU is a broad range of politic views and repeatedly countries such as Poland sided with changes we wanted.

With your logic Yorkshire should be an independent country as they will want different things to Westminster so democracy doesn’t work for them.

Oh dear "

Bloody hell. It looks like the winner has spent the whole day on fabs arguing the toss about Brexit and Patel. Winners like you should give themselves a bit of time off to enjoy your unicorns and new life.

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Sure. So what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?

More unrelated questions.

No matter how many random questions you ask, Brexit will not magic into some kind of positive for the UK.

These threads are depressing.

People in this country haven't learned a thing.

It's not unrelated at all, other blocs have trade rules sure, but they don't need all the waste of politic bollocks to go along with it do they? Why does Europe? "

Are you trolling? You have to be at this point.

Surely no one can be this confused!

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By *ookyandlickyCouple 2 weeks ago

Larne

So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich

Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer

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By *exy7Man 2 weeks ago

Bristol


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Sure. So what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?

More unrelated questions.

No matter how many random questions you ask, Brexit will not magic into some kind of positive for the UK.

These threads are depressing.

People in this country haven't learned a thing.

It's not unrelated at all, other blocs have trade rules sure, but they don't need all the waste of politic bollocks to go along with it do they? Why does Europe?

Are you trolling? You have to be at this point.

Surely no one can be this confused!"

Look at the start of this thread. This troll is not here to talk about this Canada deal. He’s only interested in winding up people and see who’s going to be the first to poo poo this deal. The troll per excellence.

He got stuck on the Patel topic and he quit - that’s what leavers do.

When he does not know what to answer he asks questions unrelated to the topic in order to muddle the waters.

A complete waste of space with whom you can’t have a reasoned debate. But hey, apparently he’s a winner!

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By *exy7Man 2 weeks ago

Bristol


"Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer "

Make sure you’re back in 5 mins winner.

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer "

Is your definition of good news - getting back a fraction of what we voted to throw away?

It's like celebrating after being mugged, having a wallet full of cash stolen, then you find that the mugger dropped 10p as they ran off.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley

So we're meant to be celebrating not fucking up as part of brexit a deal we already have..

This time next year Rodney..

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away."

but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?

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By *exy7Man 2 weeks ago

Bristol


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away. but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?"

I guess a lot of you still believe in Santa. You can always live in hope he really exists.

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away. but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?"

Yeah. But do you celebrate every week when you don't win the lottery?

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By *losguygl3Man 2 weeks ago

Gloucester


"Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer "

What good news is that then? We have a temporary agreement with Canada a country that we have a net import from of $8bn. Whoop de do.

Directly attributable Brexit costs were £200bn before covid!!!

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away. but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?

Yeah. But do you celebrate every week when you don't win the lottery?"

im not celebrating bud I just think a Canada deal today is better than a no Canada deal yest no one is saying it’s better than the eu deal so how do we move on then ?

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away. but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?

I guess a lot of you still believe in Santa. You can always live in hope he really exists. "

always count on you to be a cock lol

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer "

Everyone is pleased we can keep some trade with Canada

The op made it out to be a roaring success.

It just isn’t is it!

No benefit resulting from Brexit yet then.

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer "

You disagree a lot and level insults to others views on a regular basis but you never have an argument of any merit to add to the debate.

You should have your own forum called “Utter Bollocks”.

That would amuse most on here pro or anti Brexit .

Enjoy your beer .

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By *kysurferMan 2 weeks ago

Boom Town


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away. but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?

Yeah. But do you celebrate every week when you don't win the lottery?im not celebrating bud I just think a Canada deal today is better than a no Canada deal yest no one is saying it’s better than the eu deal so how do we move on then ?"

We had a deal with Canada yesterday. Along with most other places. We voted to bin it. Then proceeded to waste years fighting for scraps back.

We got one scrap back.

We are moving on. But it's ridiculous that people started a thread here to belittle anyone not celebrating getting back one trade deal. Which if we hadn't left the EU, we would have already have had.

What a Daily Mail thing to celebrate.

I'm all for moving on, but we've got years of this kind of thing to deal with.

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By *exy7Man 2 weeks ago

Bristol


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away. but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?

I guess a lot of you still believe in Santa. You can always live in hope he really exists. always count on you to be a cock lol"

I’ll be your Santa!

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. so would you prefer that we didn’t do a deal with Canada then ?

I'd have preferred if we hadn't voted ourselves into a position where we had to waste years fighting to get back what we voted to throw away. but we did 4 yrs ago I’d prefer to win the lotto but that’s life so how do we move on from this then ?

I guess a lot of you still believe in Santa. You can always live in hope he really exists. always count on you to be a cock lol

I’ll be your Santa! "

yr not me type sexy bugger lol

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By *kstallionMan 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

"

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich


"Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer

Everyone is pleased we can keep some trade with Canada

The op made it out to be a roaring success.

It just isn’t is it!

No benefit resulting from Brexit yet then. "

Yet? of course not, did you expect it to be better the moment we left? i thought you were a business man and would know it would take time but its not the doom and gloom that remainers have been predicting for the last four years.

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components"

It’s similar to EU rules on sourcing limiting the percentage of the parts from outside the EU.

If it’s too great tariffs apply.

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By *kstallionMan 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components

It’s similar to EU rules on sourcing limiting the percentage of the parts from outside the EU.

If it’s too great tariffs apply. "

No real problem then as parts are localised and the same suppliers have operations in all areas

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By *kstallionMan 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Sure. So what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?

More unrelated questions.

No matter how many random questions you ask, Brexit will not magic into some kind of positive for the UK.

These threads are depressing.

People in this country haven't learned a thing.

It's not unrelated at all, other blocs have trade rules sure, but they don't need all the waste of politic bollocks to go along with it do they? Why does Europe? "

How much contribution will the UK have to make each year to be part of this trans Pacific club

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By *ebbie69Couple 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Nice one Boris "

Thank you for sharing. Always good to have good news especially this year.

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Sure. So what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?

More unrelated questions.

No matter how many random questions you ask, Brexit will not magic into some kind of positive for the UK.

These threads are depressing.

People in this country haven't learned a thing.

It's not unrelated at all, other blocs have trade rules sure, but they don't need all the waste of politic bollocks to go along with it do they? Why does Europe?

How much contribution will the UK have to make each year to be part of this trans Pacific club"

Its not the eu mate you dont pay no parliments to run ,no mep,s to pay, no presidents its just good old free trading with the freedom to impose tariffs

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich

just a footnote the cptpp with the uk in will be as big as the eu without the uk .

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components

It’s similar to EU rules on sourcing limiting the percentage of the parts from outside the EU.

If it’s too great tariffs apply.

No real problem then as parts are localised and the same suppliers have operations in all areas "

A really the percentage is 40% and the rules which are lead by America who want 65% so yes a bit of a problem

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By *ebbie69Couple 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"just a footnote the cptpp with the uk in will be as big as the eu without the uk . "

I found that out too when looking into it when it was mentioned on another thread. Was gobsmacked to learn of its size

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"just a footnote the cptpp with the uk in will be as big as the eu without the uk . "

Look at the countries involved and think how we intend to compete with them. They are not there out of altruism.

Just more bollocks to make you feel better the Brexit mess.

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By *ostafunMan 2 weeks ago

near ipswich


"just a footnote the cptpp with the uk in will be as big as the eu without the uk .

Look at the countries involved and think how we intend to compete with them. They are not there out of altruism.

Just more bollocks to make you feel better the Brexit mess. "

Not bollox mate, i just dont get why remainers are so down on the uk getting on with agreeing trade deals.it amazes me they would rather see the uk fail just to say i told you so on a bloody swingers site.

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components

It’s similar to EU rules on sourcing limiting the percentage of the parts from outside the EU.

If it’s too great tariffs apply.

No real problem then as parts are localised and the same suppliers have operations in all areas

A really the percentage is 40% and the rules which are lead by America who want 65% so yes a bit of a problem "

so is it good news or bad ?

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components

It’s similar to EU rules on sourcing limiting the percentage of the parts from outside the EU.

If it’s too great tariffs apply.

No real problem then as parts are localised and the same suppliers have operations in all areas

A really the percentage is 40% and the rules which are lead by America who want 65% so yes a bit of a problem so is it good news or bad ?"

If Nissan can source their parts more from the U.K. in short order not a problem. Sadly 25% gap is huge in parts terms.

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By *kstallionMan 2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components

It’s similar to EU rules on sourcing limiting the percentage of the parts from outside the EU.

If it’s too great tariffs apply.

No real problem then as parts are localised and the same suppliers have operations in all areas

A really the percentage is 40% and the rules which are lead by America who want 65% so yes a bit of a problem so is it good news or bad ?

If Nissan can source their parts more from the U.K. in short order not a problem. Sadly 25% gap is huge in parts terms. "

Parts supply is localised and has been for a long time. The suppliers have operations all over the world so identical parts are produced for each area without the need to ship them long distances.

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By *ackal1Couple 2 weeks ago

Manchester


"just a footnote the cptpp with the uk in will be as big as the eu without the uk .

Look at the countries involved and think how we intend to compete with them. They are not there out of altruism.

Just more bollocks to make you feel better the Brexit mess. Not bollox mate, i just dont get why remainers are so down on the uk getting on with agreeing trade deals.it amazes me they would rather see the uk fail just to say i told you so on a bloody swingers site. "

If you’d seen any of my earlier posts you would see I’ve repeatedly hoped we will all do well so no downer on anything. But keeping a deal we already had isn’t good news about Brexit it’s just a relief. Good for exporters to Canada. They can keep their business. Staying in the race isn’t winning fuck all.

Still the issue of customs and 45% of our exports with our biggest trade partner to sort out. Oh customs is here to stay so that’s sorted and will cost business massively.

I think a deal will be done but my money is on a compromise which will in the end be a worse deal than we had two years ago.

Boris is about hui self and being in charge along with having his moment in the history books. At least May wanted what’s best for us all. She didn’t resit Brexit as leader she tried to get a result. Boris just wants to appear churchillian but all he appears is like the old Argentine Junta with as much imagination.

That guy is destroying this country slowly but surely.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich

So this is how it goes -

Last year - we won't be able to trade around the world on the same terms as we did when we were part of the EU because they made the deals and they are so much bigger than us.

This year - OK we can trade around the world on the same terms as the EU but that's not moving forward, that's just staying where we are.

Next year - OK we have a deal with the EU and other large trading blocks around the world and we are doing well.

But...

But...

Anyway...

Brexiters are all thick and racist..

So there

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By *mmabluTV/TS 2 weeks ago

upton wirral


"So this is how it goes -

Last year - we won't be able to trade around the world on the same terms as we did when we were part of the EU because they made the deals and they are so much bigger than us.

This year - OK we can trade around the world on the same terms as the EU but that's not moving forward, that's just staying where we are.

Next year - OK we have a deal with the EU and other large trading blocks around the world and we are doing well.

But...

But...

Anyway...

Brexiters are all thick and racist..

So there "

This person should not be allowed to get away with this sort of abuse against brexiteers.

Why do you allow it yet we get barred for this sort of thing?

I am not and neither are most brexiteers racist it is totally offensive

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Nantwich


"So this is how it goes -

Last year - we won't be able to trade around the world on the same terms as we did when we were part of the EU because they made the deals and they are so much bigger than us.

This year - OK we can trade around the world on the same terms as the EU but that's not moving forward, that's just staying where we are.

Next year - OK we have a deal with the EU and other large trading blocks around the world and we are doing well.

But...

But...

Anyway...

Brexiters are all thick and racist..

So there This person should not be allowed to get away with this sort of abuse against brexiteers.

Why do you allow it yet we get barred for this sort of thing?

I am not and neither are most brexiteers racist it is totally offensive"

I'm a Brexiteer ya daft bugger

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By *mmabluTV/TS 2 weeks ago

upton wirral


"So this is how it goes -

Last year - we won't be able to trade around the world on the same terms as we did when we were part of the EU because they made the deals and they are so much bigger than us.

This year - OK we can trade around the world on the same terms as the EU but that's not moving forward, that's just staying where we are.

Next year - OK we have a deal with the EU and other large trading blocks around the world and we are doing well.

But...

But...

Anyway...

Brexiters are all thick and racist..

So there This person should not be allowed to get away with this sort of abuse against brexiteers.

Why do you allow it yet we get barred for this sort of thing?

I am not and neither are most brexiteers racist it is totally offensive

I'm a Brexiteer ya daft bugger "

I missed the sarcasm on first reading silly me

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By *oxychick35Couple 2 weeks ago

thornaby


"So it does just duplicate then? Yes, well done Boris for maintaining what we already had.

Yes well done. One 'small' country can get the same as the mighty EU eh

And so we can leave the EU and get much better deals than we had? So we are better off how exactly?

To say we are working towards better bi lateral trade as the EU is, isn’t getting a better deal. Not sure what the win is but please feel free to tell me how much better off this is going to make us as nothing has changed except we carry on as normal. Remember Brexit will remove the shackles of the EU and bring better trade deals is the watchword for Boris and Farage.

If our only aim is to match EU deals what’s the point of leaving? All I can see is making trading difficult with 50% of our world trade to match the same deals on the rest of the world isn’t success in anyone’s book.

Tell me the win here as I can’t see it! Agreeing to keep trading under the same terms is agreeing to continue. Wow four years of fucking mess to stay the same on one deal.

Still waiting for the unicorns ha ha

What’s the point of leaving?

We are no longer a part of the 'political project' for a start.

Speaking of which, can you tell me the future plans of the EU? Tax plans? Or whatever?

It boggles my mind how much misinformation is about the EU is believed by the population. However many years on from the referendum. Brexit dominating the news. And still people ask questions like this.

It's no wonder the leave vote won.

I see you can't answer the question but no matter it is a difficult one.

So would you agree that the deal with Canada is good news?

The deal with Canada is just one small thing that we've managed to cling on to. It's good news as in that it's not bad news. But in context, it's fuck all compared to what we had before. Which included a deal with Canada.

And you should know by now, that I don't play the 20 random questions games that you enjoy playing. Its a stepping stone mate, when we join the cptpp and probably the usa will too now biden is in as trump pulled out of joining it will be great for the uk so rejoice the future is looking bright.

Reading the actual rules on CPTPP is like another version of the rules on trading in the EU. State aid rules and cars have to be made with 50-60% parts from the exporting company or tariffs will apply so no Nissans going there.

In addition the biggest trading block the USA although they have not joined yet when they do have insisted on patent and copyright protections. These contain protections against intellectual business theft but also protection on their patents on drugs to be longer than the EU. That means if you buy the drugs you pay the makers artificially high prices unlike in the EU where your patent is time limited so cheaper drugs.

The CPTPP has rules copying other trade groups around the world. I though Brexit was about independence not leaving one group with rules for another.

Do the detail. I’ve just skimmed it and I’m sure I could uncover lots more restrictions. This isn’t winning guys it’s trying to hang on to trade.

Could you explain a bit more about the car parts as I don't quite understand. virtually No car company makes all its own components

It’s similar to EU rules on sourcing limiting the percentage of the parts from outside the EU.

If it’s too great tariffs apply.

No real problem then as parts are localised and the same suppliers have operations in all areas

A really the percentage is 40% and the rules which are lead by America who want 65% so yes a bit of a problem so is it good news or bad ?

If Nissan can source their parts more from the U.K. in short order not a problem. Sadly 25% gap is huge in parts terms. "

well arnt they switching from Barcelona to Sunderland with a lot of production so I’d assume they are confident with that

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By *abtastic999Man 2 weeks ago

manchester


"Nice one Boris "

‘Agreement in principle’ nothing set in stone as yet, it won’t be finalised until after December 31st

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By *bernathCouple 1 week ago

Gloucestershire

Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.

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By *oxychick35Couple 1 week ago

thornaby


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying."

lmfao so should we not even try to get other deals then just because we leaving eu ? So what do you want we can’t go back so should we stand still or move forward pls give us an answer yr confusing us thick leavers we can’t win we know the deal we had before won’t be as good now with the eu so should we just sink or swim. Pls educate us ???

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By *V-AliceTV/TS 1 week ago

Ayr


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying."

You can't polish a turd - you can only roll it in glitter.

I suppose what good news there is, regarding Canada, is that things aren't going to be worse when trading with them.

IF that does turn out to be the case.

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By *bernathCouple 1 week ago

Gloucestershire


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.lmfao so should we not even try to get other deals then just because we leaving eu ? So what do you want we can’t go back so should we stand still or move forward pls give us an answer yr confusing us thick leavers we can’t win we know the deal we had before won’t be as good now with the eu so should we just sink or swim. Pls educate us ???"

No we should, thats the mandate. But they have to be better than the deals we made when we were in the EU.

You understand? Is that any clearer?

Because getting a deal with the same terms as a deal similar to one struck during our time in the EU is pretty shit right? Pointless and a waste of money therefore it in brings out the question, was brexit an exercise in striking good trade deals? Or what it just a exercise to close us off from the rest of the world?

If those who wanted brexit cannot give us a better deal, then we kinda know they are full of shit, right?

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By *rDanielMan 1 week ago

Bristol

Well said!

Brexit was to benefit 1% of the population.


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.lmfao so should we not even try to get other deals then just because we leaving eu ? So what do you want we can’t go back so should we stand still or move forward pls give us an answer yr confusing us thick leavers we can’t win we know the deal we had before won’t be as good now with the eu so should we just sink or swim. Pls educate us ???

No we should, thats the mandate. But they have to be better than the deals we made when we were in the EU.

You understand? Is that any clearer?

Because getting a deal with the same terms as a deal similar to one struck during our time in the EU is pretty shit right? Pointless and a waste of money therefore it in brings out the question, was brexit an exercise in striking good trade deals? Or what it just a exercise to close us off from the rest of the world?

If those who wanted brexit cannot give us a better deal, then we kinda know they are full of shit, right?"

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By *L RogueMan 1 week ago

London


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?"

Good question. OP?

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By *rDanielMan 1 week ago

Bristol


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?"

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU..."

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

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By *rDanielMan 1 week ago

Bristol

I've compared it with EU because some crazy people think you can just turn your back to EU over night... This is not a play area where you can take your toys and play somewhere else.

It took years to build this relationship...


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that? "

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that? "

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

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By *andy 1Couple 1 week ago

northeast


"Posting this has been quite amusing really, mention a bit of good news for the UK and the usual suspects don't let you down.

Time for a beer "

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By (user no longer on site) 1 week ago

A fool will always be a fool. How can brexshiters enjoy the same as it was. brexshiters will even turn shit into success. This is how the far right works.

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying."

Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"A fool will always be a fool. How can brexshiters enjoy the same as it was. brexshiters will even turn shit into success. This is how the far right works."
Got anything constructive to say for a change rather than just your usual insults with no substance?

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By *L RogueMan 1 week ago

London


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU..."

I did...it's clear of £200billion in 2015 jumping to nearly £300billion last year.

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress."

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘?

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? "

Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ? "

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich

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By *exy7Man 1 week ago

Bristol

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By *exy7Man 1 week ago

Bristol

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By *exy7Man 1 week ago

Bristol


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world "

The EU is so lucky to have a winner it can rely on and who can tell what would make sense for them. They will also notice that you still can’t mention one benefit of Brexit for the U.K. apart from pissing off the remainers.

You can twist the truth as much as you want the EU remains our biggest trading partner and they won’t lie down. They’re still holding us by the balls, even more now Biden has been elected.

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world "

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

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By *kysurferMan 1 week ago

Boom Town


"A fool will always be a fool. How can brexshiters enjoy the same as it was. brexshiters will even turn shit into success. This is how the far right works.Got anything constructive to say for a change rather than just your usual insults with no substance?"

In fairness though. It's right and on theme for the thread.

The main point here is to look at how easy it is to fool some people.

Take away all the trade deals, give one back, watch them celebrate.

The power of the right wing media is supreme.

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By *exy7Man 1 week ago

Bristol

I’m watching Sunak not answering about the consequences on Britain in case of no deal. The guy avoided answering on three occasions. Not the beginning of an answer. And the guy is chancellor of the exchequer. Pathetic but so typical of this gvt.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have? "

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

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By *exy7Man 1 week ago

Bristol


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating? "

Find us the posts because as always you’re talking out of your arse. As always you probably won’t mention your sources, winner. That the part of trade with the EU is shrinking doesn’t make a difference. It is still our biggest trading partner. The people who will be affected by this won’t give a toss that it’s growing or shrinking.

Have you planned another full day here by the way? You’ve started your shift early.

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By *coptoCouple 1 week ago

Côte d'Azur and Great Yarmouth

"what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?"

Is that a joke? EU Parliament = UK Parliament; Commission = UK Civil Service. So the President of the Commission = the UK’s Simon Case, but whereas Charles Michel will be replaced as President of the European Council, we’ve got the Windsors for perpetuity.

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By *ebbie69Couple 1 week ago

milton keynes

I think the OP must be mistaken on this Canada deal. It's only 10 months since we legally left the EU and was told pathetic little UK cannot do deals with other countries like the all powerful EU . Even if we did it would be at least 5 to 10 years. Shame on you OP

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"I think the OP must be mistaken on this Canada deal. It's only 10 months since we legally left the EU and was told pathetic little UK cannot do deals with other countries like the all powerful EU . Even if we did it would be at least 5 to 10 years. Shame on you OP "

Who said that? One of the reasons that we left the EU was to get better trade deals with other countries? Do you agree?

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating? "

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one. "

Why are you blaming remainers for the delay ? We could have left 2 years ago if it wasn’t for Boris and his ERG friends

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


""what is an EU parliament, presidents, commission etc etc, all about? Why do we need all that?"

Is that a joke? EU Parliament = UK Parliament; Commission = UK Civil Service. So the President of the Commission = the UK’s Simon Case, but whereas Charles Michel will be replaced as President of the European Council, we’ve got the Windsors for perpetuity."

Exactly. Countries and groups of countries can trade and do deals with eachother without any of that nonsense. Even European ones

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table "

If you think 40 is greater than 60 maybe you should go back to school. And until the transition period ends we are not allowed to do new deals, or get 'better deals' as I expect you know really. I don't know, how many deals do we have on the table?

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"I think the OP must be mistaken on this Canada deal. It's only 10 months since we legally left the EU and was told pathetic little UK cannot do deals with other countries like the all powerful EU . Even if we did it would be at least 5 to 10 years. Shame on you OP "

Sorry,

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table

If you think 40 is greater than 60 maybe you should go back to school. And until the transition period ends we are not allowed to do new deals, or get 'better deals' as I expect you know really. I don't know, how many deals do we have on the table? "

I think you are getting confused, I will ask you again, who is the UKs largest trading partner (btw, ‘the rest of the world’ isn’t a trading bloc’) . If we aren’t allowed to do ‘new deals’ why have we done them with Japan and Canada?

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table

If you think 40 is greater than 60 maybe you should go back to school. And until the transition period ends we are not allowed to do new deals, or get 'better deals' as I expect you know really. I don't know, how many deals do we have on the table?

I think you are getting confused, I will ask you again, who is the UKs largest trading partner (btw, ‘the rest of the world’ isn’t a trading bloc’) . If we aren’t allowed to do ‘new deals’ why have we done them with Japan and Canada? "

Why use semantics? When you say partner, what we are really talking about is customer isn't it? So who is the Uk's biggest customer? The EU or the rest of the world? They are not 'new deals' with Japan and Canada, they are a continuation of the deals we already have with the EU and will continue after the transition period, when we will be allowed to improve on those deals

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table

If you think 40 is greater than 60 maybe you should go back to school. And until the transition period ends we are not allowed to do new deals, or get 'better deals' as I expect you know really. I don't know, how many deals do we have on the table?

I think you are getting confused, I will ask you again, who is the UKs largest trading partner (btw, ‘the rest of the world’ isn’t a trading bloc’) . If we aren’t allowed to do ‘new deals’ why have we done them with Japan and Canada? "

Of course the eu is the largest trading block with the uk at the moment, we have been tied into it for the last 50 years, will they be in 5 years time who knows.Do you think countries of the eu will not be trading with us next year? There will be plenty of countries that will also be damaged by a no deal but as usual the eu political dream overides this and is more important than the damage it will do to their citizens.

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By *ackal1Couple 1 week ago

Manchester


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one. "

Erm didn’t we have 40 years to improve trade with Canada? The EU didn’t stop us trading with Canada on the same terms as this .

You’ve got high ambition for our manufacturing base which is only 20% of our economy.

Finance cars and tech are our biggest exports.

Finance is moving cars is waiting for a deal or not . And tech whilst it’s is a valuable industry doesn’t employ enough to keep us going as a nation sadly.

It’s good that we kept a deal but don’t pretend it’s anything better as it isn’t.

The money we are losing over this will be a nightmare to get back.

I hope we do get there but not convinced we have the money now or the educated workforce in enough numbers .

The investment needed to follow such as California is astronomical and we have debt coming out of our ears.

The only attraction we can offer is low tax to company’s like Ireland has done.

That will only benefit a few sadly.

Let’s see what happens but don’t hold your breath that it’s all going to be ok.

Boris and Gove will no doubt polish their best spin when we see what we are losing with any delays and excess customs issues in the new year. Business which are affected very badly will indeed just fuck off to Europe.

It’s easy for them just not the workers.

We are about to jump of that cliff penniless. Let’s hope theirs a old dumped mattress at the bottom so we are not dead completely

You never know there may be a discarded trampoline . .

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By *ackal1Couple 1 week ago

Manchester


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table

If you think 40 is greater than 60 maybe you should go back to school. And until the transition period ends we are not allowed to do new deals, or get 'better deals' as I expect you know really. I don't know, how many deals do we have on the table?

I think you are getting confused, I will ask you again, who is the UKs largest trading partner (btw, ‘the rest of the world’ isn’t a trading bloc’) . If we aren’t allowed to do ‘new deals’ why have we done them with Japan and Canada? Of course the eu is the largest trading block with the uk at the moment, we have been tied into it for the last 50 years, will they be in 5 years time who knows.Do you think countries of the eu will not be trading with us next year? There will be plenty of countries that will also be damaged by a no deal but as usual the eu political dream overides this and is more important than the damage it will do to their citizens."

We were never tied into trading with Europe where did you get that nonsense. We have always been able to trade with anyone and business chose to trade with Europe because it is cheap and efficient to trade with your neighbour especially as they have to manufacture under the same rules .

Business will continue to trade with the EU. It’s whether we can afford to trade with them now if no deal whether they will want to trade with us that’s the problem.

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one.

Erm didn’t we have 40 years to improve trade with Canada? The EU didn’t stop us trading with Canada on the same terms as this .

You’ve got high ambition for our manufacturing base which is only 20% of our economy.

Finance cars and tech are our biggest exports.

Finance is moving cars is waiting for a deal or not . And tech whilst it’s is a valuable industry doesn’t employ enough to keep us going as a nation sadly.

It’s good that we kept a deal but don’t pretend it’s anything better as it isn’t.

The money we are losing over this will be a nightmare to get back.

I hope we do get there but not convinced we have the money now or the educated workforce in enough numbers .

The investment needed to follow such as California is astronomical and we have debt coming out of our ears.

The only attraction we can offer is low tax to company’s like Ireland has done.

That will only benefit a few sadly.

Let’s see what happens but don’t hold your breath that it’s all going to be ok.

Boris and Gove will no doubt polish their best spin when we see what we are losing with any delays and excess customs issues in the new year. Business which are affected very badly will indeed just fuck off to Europe.

It’s easy for them just not the workers.

We are about to jump of that cliff penniless. Let’s hope theirs a old dumped mattress at the bottom so we are not dead completely

You never know there may be a discarded trampoline . . "

erm no we had to trade with canada ,japan etc under the eu trade deal, for continuity canda has agreed to continue this and agreed to new talks next year including tech and fianance.Now as an international businessman you must understand this trade deals are not done overnight but it shows faith in wanting to trade with the 6 largest economy in the world.

Do you think the eu will just stop trading with the uk on the 1st jan? will we have no bmw,s aldi,s.vw,s etc in the showrooms next year? you keep talking as if this is a one way street which it is definitly not the uk in 2019 had an overall DEFICIT of £79 billion.Now do the maths.

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table

If you think 40 is greater than 60 maybe you should go back to school. And until the transition period ends we are not allowed to do new deals, or get 'better deals' as I expect you know really. I don't know, how many deals do we have on the table?

I think you are getting confused, I will ask you again, who is the UKs largest trading partner (btw, ‘the rest of the world’ isn’t a trading bloc’) . If we aren’t allowed to do ‘new deals’ why have we done them with Japan and Canada? Of course the eu is the largest trading block with the uk at the moment, we have been tied into it for the last 50 years, will they be in 5 years time who knows.Do you think countries of the eu will not be trading with us next year? There will be plenty of countries that will also be damaged by a no deal but as usual the eu political dream overides this and is more important than the damage it will do to their citizens."

Of course they will be trading with the UK, but we were promised a great easy deal with the EU, maybe this will happen before December 31st?

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By *exy7Man 1 week ago

Bristol


"So how much does the uk export to Canada ?

Good question. OP?

The UK has well-established trade links with Canada, and in the year up to March 2019 UK exports totalled £10.7 billion (ONS, 2019).

Compare that with EU...

It's not a great amount in the scheme of things no but it proves that the UK can get deals equally as good as the EU and probably better once we are free to negotiate bespoke deals in the New year, after all we won't be held back by Walloon farmers will we? And if it's so irrelevant, makes you wonder why the EU spent 7 years working on the deal doesn't it? And why compare it to trade with the EU? Do you think we are going to lose that?

Do you think we will get the same or better deal with the EU than we had ?

Doesn't matter what I think but if the EU has any sense it will remain the same. But I'll stick my neck out and say that whatever happens you won't notice the difference, our percentage share of trade with the EU is growing less and less every year anyway compared to trade with the rest of the world

Is it our largest trading partner or not ? Why are you ‘celebrating’ a trade deal with Canada which is exactly the same as the one we already have?

EU 40% and shrinking

Rest of the world 60% and growing. You do the maths. I am celebrating because for the last 4 years people like yourself have been saying that we would not get the same terms with other countries once we were out of the EU. You have even said yourself in this thread that it is good news. Aren't you celebrating?

I have done the Maths, the EU is out largest trading partner . Why aren’t we getting ‘better’ trading deals with other countries now we have left the EU, getting the same isn’t an improvement . We left 10 months ago, the WA ends in 6 weeks, how many desks do we have on the table

If you think 40 is greater than 60 maybe you should go back to school. And until the transition period ends we are not allowed to do new deals, or get 'better deals' as I expect you know really. I don't know, how many deals do we have on the table? "

Is the ‘rest of the world’ a new trading bloc created an hour ago to justify your crappy and biased argument?

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one.

Erm didn’t we have 40 years to improve trade with Canada? The EU didn’t stop us trading with Canada on the same terms as this .

You’ve got high ambition for our manufacturing base which is only 20% of our economy.

Finance cars and tech are our biggest exports.

Finance is moving cars is waiting for a deal or not . And tech whilst it’s is a valuable industry doesn’t employ enough to keep us going as a nation sadly.

It’s good that we kept a deal but don’t pretend it’s anything better as it isn’t.

The money we are losing over this will be a nightmare to get back.

I hope we do get there but not convinced we have the money now or the educated workforce in enough numbers .

The investment needed to follow such as California is astronomical and we have debt coming out of our ears.

The only attraction we can offer is low tax to company’s like Ireland has done.

That will only benefit a few sadly.

Let’s see what happens but don’t hold your breath that it’s all going to be ok.

Boris and Gove will no doubt polish their best spin when we see what we are losing with any delays and excess customs issues in the new year. Business which are affected very badly will indeed just fuck off to Europe.

It’s easy for them just not the workers.

We are about to jump of that cliff penniless. Let’s hope theirs a old dumped mattress at the bottom so we are not dead completely

You never know there may be a discarded trampoline . . erm no we had to trade with canada ,japan etc under the eu trade deal, for continuity canda has agreed to continue this and agreed to new talks next year including tech and fianance.Now as an international businessman you must understand this trade deals are not done overnight but it shows faith in wanting to trade with the 6 largest economy in the world.

Do you think the eu will just stop trading with the uk on the 1st jan? will we have no bmw,s aldi,s.vw,s etc in the showrooms next year? you keep talking as if this is a one way street which it is definitly not the uk in 2019 had an overall DEFICIT of £79 billion.Now do the maths.

"

So we are going to get the same or a better deal

with the EU than the one we had?

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one.

Erm didn’t we have 40 years to improve trade with Canada? The EU didn’t stop us trading with Canada on the same terms as this .

You’ve got high ambition for our manufacturing base which is only 20% of our economy.

Finance cars and tech are our biggest exports.

Finance is moving cars is waiting for a deal or not . And tech whilst it’s is a valuable industry doesn’t employ enough to keep us going as a nation sadly.

It’s good that we kept a deal but don’t pretend it’s anything better as it isn’t.

The money we are losing over this will be a nightmare to get back.

I hope we do get there but not convinced we have the money now or the educated workforce in enough numbers .

The investment needed to follow such as California is astronomical and we have debt coming out of our ears.

The only attraction we can offer is low tax to company’s like Ireland has done.

That will only benefit a few sadly.

Let’s see what happens but don’t hold your breath that it’s all going to be ok.

Boris and Gove will no doubt polish their best spin when we see what we are losing with any delays and excess customs issues in the new year. Business which are affected very badly will indeed just fuck off to Europe.

It’s easy for them just not the workers.

We are about to jump of that cliff penniless. Let’s hope theirs a old dumped mattress at the bottom so we are not dead completely

You never know there may be a discarded trampoline . . erm no we had to trade with canada ,japan etc under the eu trade deal, for continuity canda has agreed to continue this and agreed to new talks next year including tech and fianance.Now as an international businessman you must understand this trade deals are not done overnight but it shows faith in wanting to trade with the 6 largest economy in the world.

Do you think the eu will just stop trading with the uk on the 1st jan? will we have no bmw,s aldi,s.vw,s etc in the showrooms next year? you keep talking as if this is a one way street which it is definitly not the uk in 2019 had an overall DEFICIT of £79 billion.Now do the maths.

So we are going to get the same or a better deal

with the EU than the one we had? "

Who knows probably worse because we wont be paying into the club but we were not getting a great deal for our money anyway our share in exports to the eu fell from 54% in 2002 to 43% in 2019 at that rate in a few years it wouldnt have been worth it anyway.

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By *ackal1Couple 1 week ago

Manchester


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one.

Erm didn’t we have 40 years to improve trade with Canada? The EU didn’t stop us trading with Canada on the same terms as this .

You’ve got high ambition for our manufacturing base which is only 20% of our economy.

Finance cars and tech are our biggest exports.

Finance is moving cars is waiting for a deal or not . And tech whilst it’s is a valuable industry doesn’t employ enough to keep us going as a nation sadly.

It’s good that we kept a deal but don’t pretend it’s anything better as it isn’t.

The money we are losing over this will be a nightmare to get back.

I hope we do get there but not convinced we have the money now or the educated workforce in enough numbers .

The investment needed to follow such as California is astronomical and we have debt coming out of our ears.

The only attraction we can offer is low tax to company’s like Ireland has done.

That will only benefit a few sadly.

Let’s see what happens but don’t hold your breath that it’s all going to be ok.

Boris and Gove will no doubt polish their best spin when we see what we are losing with any delays and excess customs issues in the new year. Business which are affected very badly will indeed just fuck off to Europe.

It’s easy for them just not the workers.

We are about to jump of that cliff penniless. Let’s hope theirs a old dumped mattress at the bottom so we are not dead completely

You never know there may be a discarded trampoline . . erm no we had to trade with canada ,japan etc under the eu trade deal, for continuity canda has agreed to continue this and agreed to new talks next year including tech and fianance.Now as an international businessman you must understand this trade deals are not done overnight but it shows faith in wanting to trade with the 6 largest economy in the world.

Do you think the eu will just stop trading with the uk on the 1st jan? will we have no bmw,s aldi,s.vw,s etc in the showrooms next year? you keep talking as if this is a one way street which it is definitly not the uk in 2019 had an overall DEFICIT of £79 billion.Now do the maths.

"

Leave the sarcastic comments out on a personal level. I shared information with you about my circumstances and your comments are rude and pathetic . Have I insulted you personally?

Do a bit more details maths and discover what percentage of trade each country does with us.

You will find apart from Ireland we account for 5% or less . Germany 3%

They account for 45% of our trade as a whole.

They are less desperate for trade to continue and can afford to say fuck off we can’t.

What are the benefits of our trade deal over the EU one with Canada I’m curious as to what is different and how much more money we can make?

Genuine question as you seem confident it’s better .

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By *bernathCouple 1 week ago

Gloucestershire


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one.

Erm didn’t we have 40 years to improve trade with Canada? The EU didn’t stop us trading with Canada on the same terms as this .

You’ve got high ambition for our manufacturing base which is only 20% of our economy.

Finance cars and tech are our biggest exports.

Finance is moving cars is waiting for a deal or not . And tech whilst it’s is a valuable industry doesn’t employ enough to keep us going as a nation sadly.

It’s good that we kept a deal but don’t pretend it’s anything better as it isn’t.

The money we are losing over this will be a nightmare to get back.

I hope we do get there but not convinced we have the money now or the educated workforce in enough numbers .

The investment needed to follow such as California is astronomical and we have debt coming out of our ears.

The only attraction we can offer is low tax to company’s like Ireland has done.

That will only benefit a few sadly.

Let’s see what happens but don’t hold your breath that it’s all going to be ok.

Boris and Gove will no doubt polish their best spin when we see what we are losing with any delays and excess customs issues in the new year. Business which are affected very badly will indeed just fuck off to Europe.

It’s easy for them just not the workers.

We are about to jump of that cliff penniless. Let’s hope theirs a old dumped mattress at the bottom so we are not dead completely

You never know there may be a discarded trampoline . . erm no we had to trade with canada ,japan etc under the eu trade deal, for continuity canda has agreed to continue this and agreed to new talks next year including tech and fianance.Now as an international businessman you must understand this trade deals are not done overnight but it shows faith in wanting to trade with the 6 largest economy in the world.

Do you think the eu will just stop trading with the uk on the 1st jan? will we have no bmw,s aldi,s.vw,s etc in the showrooms next year? you keep talking as if this is a one way street which it is definitly not the uk in 2019 had an overall DEFICIT of £79 billion.Now do the maths.

So we are going to get the same or a better deal

with the EU than the one we had? Who knows probably worse because we wont be paying into the club but we were not getting a great deal for our money anyway our share in exports to the eu fell from 54% in 2002 to 43% in 2019 at that rate in a few years it wouldnt have been worth it anyway."

This is going to be an arguement which will rage on for ages now, will any future trade deals the UK do going to be better than what we had in the EU?

People on both sides of the previous debate are going to be watching if this government can fulfill its promise to provide the best possible outcome because we went it alone.

This is going to be a long four years, barring any future disasters which may happen.

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By *ebbie69Couple 1 week ago

milton keynes

If we are getting the same deals with these other countries without paying into the club I take it as a positive

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By *emini TVTV/TS 1 week ago

Vu Vu Land


"Is this a new trade deal?"

We’re celebrating staying as we are.

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By *ackal1Couple 1 week ago

Manchester


"If we are getting the same deals with these other countries without paying into the club I take it as a positive"

Look at the companies that have moved part or all of their registration to the EU from the U.K. .

We are paying considerably more . Even before customs cost kick in.

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"If we are getting the same deals with these other countries without paying into the club I take it as a positive"

Yeah, good point, are you expecting the UK to get the same or better deal with the EU (our largest trading partner)? If we do then that will be a real cause to celebrate

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By *eroy1000Man 1 week ago

milton keynes


"Question,

Will we have better deals?

All good saying we got a deal.

We left for better deals than the EU, so the measure should how better our deal is compared to previous deals struck by the EU.

Don’t polish a turd and tell me its a diamond.

Just saying.Its a continuation of the present deal which keeps the status quo but with new talks on tech etc to start in the new year,thats not polishing a turd its progress.

I thought we left the EU to get better deals? I am glad we have got a deal with Canada but it is exactly the same as the one we had, why is that a reason to ‘celebrate ‘? Have patience mate next year the new trade talks including tech, finance etc We have been delayed 4 years now due to remainers im sure you can wait another one.

Erm didn’t we have 40 years to improve trade with Canada? The EU didn’t stop us trading with Canada on the same terms as this .

You’ve got high ambition for our manufacturing base which is only 20% of our economy.

Finance cars and tech are our biggest exports.

Finance is moving cars is waiting for a deal or not . And tech whilst it’s is a valuable industry doesn’t employ enough to keep us going as a nation sadly.

It’s good that we kept a deal but don’t pretend it’s anything better as it isn’t.

The money we are losing over this will be a nightmare to get back.

I hope we do get there but not convinced we have the money now or the educated workforce in enough numbers .

The investment needed to follow such as California is astronomical and we have debt coming out of our ears.

The only attraction we can offer is low tax to company’s like Ireland has done.

That will only benefit a few sadly.

Let’s see what happens but don’t hold your breath that it’s all going to be ok.

Boris and Gove will no doubt polish their best spin when we see what we are losing with any delays and excess customs issues in the new year. Business which are affected very badly will indeed just fuck off to Europe.

It’s easy for them just not the workers.

We are about to jump of that cliff penniless. Let’s hope theirs a old dumped mattress at the bottom so we are not dead completely

You never know there may be a discarded trampoline . . erm no we had to trade with canada ,japan etc under the eu trade deal, for continuity canda has agreed to continue this and agreed to new talks next year including tech and fianance.Now as an international businessman you must understand this trade deals are not done overnight but it shows faith in wanting to trade with the 6 largest economy in the world.

Do you think the eu will just stop trading with the uk on the 1st jan? will we have no bmw,s aldi,s.vw,s etc in the showrooms next year? you keep talking as if this is a one way street which it is definitly not the uk in 2019 had an overall DEFICIT of £79 billion.Now do the maths.

"

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich

Not to mention nationalisation

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By *exy-milf2Woman 1 week ago

Cambridge

You can't celebrate the status quo - or can you?

You do realise you're celebrating keeping things as they are?

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By *oo hotCouple 1 week ago

North West

This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters."

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters."

whats staying the same?

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By *bernathCouple 1 week ago

Gloucestershire


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated? "

The way things are heading it might as well be, where’s the payoff? No point having this freedom when it means we get no benefits from it?

I expect awesome deals, where Britain reigns supreme. If we get the same deals as our future competitors then its not good for us or this country.

We need a powerhouse if we are going to ride the wave of prosperity.

Time is ticking this country is getting impatient.

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By *angbangfunMan 1 week ago

london


"So the Canada deal just duplicates what we already have?

And the prize goes to "

Did you Give the Prize out yet ?

What was it ?

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By *oo hotCouple 1 week ago

North West


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated? "

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”"

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh"

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

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By *oo hotCouple 1 week ago

North West

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By *kysurferMan 1 week ago

Boom Town


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh"

I enjoy how you made up something that you imagined a remainer would say, then felt smug that it was wrong.

The reality is, we've lost all our deals. Except one or two which we've managed to claw back. Meanwhile Brexit cost the country £200 billion in 2020. And you guys are celebrating.

This thread really does sum up how strong a grip the right wing media has on the UK.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals . "

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period? "

Then why are you ‘celebrating’ a none existent deal then ?

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

Then why are you ‘celebrating’ a none existent deal then ? "

Non existent

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By *kysurferMan 1 week ago

Boom Town


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period? "

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

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By *ovebjsMan 1 week ago

Bristol


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period? "

Nothing to stop the U.K. from arranging new deals in the transition period just not allowed to sign them until after

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer."

Let’s be honest, the only reason the likes of silver voted for Brexit was to ‘get one over’ remain voters, that’s all they had and all they have now. I bet he is dying to say ‘we won get over it’ ,

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By *kysurferMan 1 week ago

Boom Town


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

Let’s be honest, the only reason the likes of silver voted for Brexit was to ‘get one over’ remain voters, that’s all they had and all they have now. I bet he is dying to say ‘we won get over it’ , "

It's crazy.

I don't understand why people like showing off how they voted brexit and at the same time how they don't understand the implications of brexit.

Boggles the mind.

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

Let’s be honest, the only reason the likes of silver voted for Brexit was to ‘get one over’ remain voters, that’s all they had and all they have now. I bet he is dying to say ‘we won get over it’ ,

It's crazy.

I don't understand why people like showing off how they voted brexit and at the same time how they don't understand the implications of brexit.

Boggles the mind."

Exact, Numerous posters have asked numerous times what the tangible benefits of Brexit could be and the best they have had to offer is ‘higher wages’ and ‘cheaper imports’ sometime in the future. You can see how easy it was for the leave campaign to brainwash some of these people. It is obvious what the 2 main reasons for them voting for Brexit, immigration and getting one over remain voters.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer."

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why

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By *abtastic999Man 1 week ago

manchester


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why "

Because none of them read the daily Mail?

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By *losguygl3Man 1 week ago

Gloucester


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why "

Because they are intelligent, educated and understand what is going to happen. Obvious really. But it gets boring just repeating 'I told you so' to the idiots still in denial.

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why

Because they are intelligent, educated and understand what is going to happen. Obvious really. But it gets boring just repeating 'I told you so' to the idiots still in denial."

but not as intelligent as the ultra rich eh?

Idiots? Funny how people use insults when they have no argument or point to make.

Denial about what?

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”"

Exactly a roll over deal just like the transition period with the eu and talks on a bespoke deal next year you remainers seem very impatient now after holding brexit up for 4 years

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why

Because they are intelligent, educated and understand what is going to happen. Obvious really. But it gets boring just repeating 'I told you so' to the idiots still in denial."

what so everyone else in the country are thick then?

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By *emini TVTV/TS 1 week ago

Vu Vu Land


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why "

Apart from Manchester. Manchester voted remain.

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By *ercuryMan 1 week ago

Grantham


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why

Because they are intelligent, educated and understand what is going to happen. Obvious really. But it gets boring just repeating 'I told you so' to the idiots still in denial."

That "intelligent and educated" that they couldn't win the Referendum, in what really was a one horse race!

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By *ilverhorn OP   Man 1 week ago

Nantwich


"This thread is mental.

Celebrating things staying the same just about sums up the truth bending illusion of this Leave supporting Government and its supporters.

But things are not staying the same are they? And you have the nerve to call other people uneducated?

The Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU.

Leave voters: “Fuck the EU (our closest trading neighbours) we don’t need them we would be better off with no deal and trading on WTO rules.”

Also Leave voters: “fantastic news we have two trade deals with countries on the other side of the world that give us the exact same benefits as before. It’s a win to have trade deals.”

Yes we know the Canada deal is a rollover of what we had whilst in the EU, that saves any disruption while we are negotiating new bespoke deals in the new year. Good news surely.

Leavers: we would be better off with no deal and trading under WTO terms than having a BAD DEAL. You missed that bit.

Remainers: We will lose out on the all the deals that have been arranged while members of the EU and will have to start from scratch and will only get worse deals because we are not part of the world's largest trading bloc.

Well obviously not eh

So, this isn’t about getting a good deal this is all about getting ‘ one over’ the remain voters? The deal with Canada is no better than the one we had, we were promised better deals .

We don't need to 'get one over' remain voters, that happened in 2016 with the result of the referendum. And how many times do you have to be told that we are not allowed to make new deals or improved deals until after the transition period?

The only people who "got one over" anyone in 2016, are the ultra rich, and US corporations who duped people into voting themselves poorer.

You really need to take your nose out of the Guardian. Who gives a fuck about the ultra rich? They are gonna be ultra rich whatever, sad but true. Most of the rich and powerful either voted for remain or backed remain. Most politicians backed remain, you know, the ones that you constantly slag off. All the bosses organisations backed remain. All the multi nationals backed remain. London was the only region in England to back remain. Maybe ask yourself why

Apart from Manchester. Manchester voted remain."

The Manchester Region didn't

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