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"https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-mps-overwhelmingly-back-eu-uk-trade-deal-ahead-of-end-of-transition-period-12175646 The House of Commons backs the agreement, struck between Boris Johnson and the EU on Christmas Eve, by 521 votes to 73. Done and dusted - had the TShirt now it's rags. "Almost as many MP's who voted for the EU referendum in the first place. | |||
"https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-mps-overwhelmingly-back-eu-uk-trade-deal-ahead-of-end-of-transition-period-12175646 The House of Commons backs the agreement, struck between Boris Johnson and the EU on Christmas Eve, by 521 votes to 73. Done and dusted - had the TShirt now it's rags.
Almost as many MP's who voted for the EU referendum in the first place.". . . and a majority of 448. And Sir Keir (getting with the programme at long last) said the agreement would: "put in place a floor from which we can build a strong future relationship with the EU". | |||
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"Parliamentary scrutiny no longer en vogue, ah well." It was either this dog shit deal, or no deal. | |||
"Parliamentary scrutiny no longer en vogue, ah well. It was either this dog shit deal, or no deal. " I know, it will be a good excuse in a few months when Boris is looking to renege on the deal. | |||
"Parliamentary scrutiny no longer en vogue, ah well." It was voted for in the commons AFTER they debated it. And has gone on to the Lords for further debate. | |||
"Parliamentary scrutiny no longer en vogue, ah well. It was voted for in the commons AFTER they debated it. And has gone on to the Lords for further debate. " Five hours. Two thousand pages of text. Four hundred pages an hour. Nearly seven pages every minute. On the upside Boris didn't have to prorogue parliament this time so that's nice. | |||
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"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works." 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. | |||
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"4 years and no debate huh? Clement Attlee's Labour Government taught us about prorogation in 1948. By doing it to stop the opposition stopping nationalisation taking place. So Boris has a good teacher. " And john major over maastricht, funny how remainers keep forgetting that little one. | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. " generations of grief for gods sake lol | |||
"4 years and no debate huh? Clement Attlee's Labour Government taught us about prorogation in 1948. By doing it to stop the opposition stopping nationalisation taking place. So Boris has a good teacher. And john major over maastricht, funny how remainers keep forgetting that little one." Indeed he did. | |||
"4 years and no debate huh? Clement Attlee's Labour Government taught us about prorogation in 1948. By doing it to stop the opposition stopping nationalisation taking place. So Boris has a good teacher. " You changed the subject, didn't you, you scallywag, tut. | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol" JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. | |||
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"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. " sky man howay like you believe a word that tit as ever said tell me about the grief this is going to do to you for generations then ? | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. " And predictions are never wrong are they? | |||
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"Clement Attlee the man who was a huge influence behind Mr Corbyn’s own ideology – and also someone the Labour leader praised in his pursuit of blocking no deal – also benefited from proroguing Parliament. Oh and you brought prorogation into the conversation. " Brexit is backed by te[sic] Commons Overwelmingly 521 votes to 73. The title of your post again, c'mon you got this. | |||
"Parliamentary scrutiny no longer en vogue, ah well. It was voted for in the commons AFTER they debated it. And has gone on to the Lords for further debate. Five hours. Two thousand pages of text. Four hundred pages an hour. Nearly seven pages every minute. On the upside Boris didn't have to prorogue parliament this time so that's nice." And you added. | |||
"Parliamentary scrutiny no longer en vogue, ah well. It was voted for in the commons AFTER they debated it. And has gone on to the Lords for further debate. Five hours. Two thousand pages of text. Four hundred pages an hour. Nearly seven pages every minute. On the upside Boris didn't have to prorogue parliament this time so that's nice. And you added. " Yes, I was saying it was good that he didn't have to prorogue parliament again. But 5 hours, tut. | |||
"Parliamentary scrutiny no longer en vogue, ah well. It was voted for in the commons AFTER they debated it. And has gone on to the Lords for further debate. Five hours. Two thousand pages of text. Four hundred pages an hour. Nearly seven pages every minute. On the upside Boris didn't have to prorogue parliament this time so that's nice. And you added. Yes, I was saying it was good that he didn't have to prorogue parliament again. But 5 hours, tut." So. You did bring prorogation into the conversation then. Told you so. Well Parliament are obviously overwhelmingly happy with the debate because they overwhelmingly voted for it. | |||
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"Done and dusted Let's see what the next few years brings." Back here same title three years from now. Back to the Future. | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. sky man howay like you believe a word that tit as ever said tell me about the grief this is going to do to you for generations then ?" Surely you know about brexit right? | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. And predictions are never wrong are they?" Predictions are often inaccurate. JRM was an advocate for the hardest possible brexit. So if anything, he's going to underestimate the damage caused by brexit. | |||
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"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. And predictions are never wrong are they? Predictions are often inaccurate. JRM was an advocate for the hardest possible brexit. So if anything, he's going to underestimate the damage caused by brexit. " Well here's what we know so far, Services where the UK had a surplus is out, Goods where the EU has a surplus is in. Then there's the loss of access to EU security databases. Northern Ireland has been hived off as an EU colony. Fishermen were thrown overboard. You'd cry if you didn't laugh. | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. And predictions are never wrong are they? Predictions are often inaccurate. JRM was an advocate for the hardest possible brexit. So if anything, he's going to underestimate the damage caused by brexit. " so let me guess you say more than 50 yrs then maybe a 100 ? Lol | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works. 4 years of nonsense 5 hours of debate Generations of grief. generations of grief for gods sake lol JRM predicted 50 years for the UK to get back to where we were in 2016. Assuming that's an optimistic prediction. That's still generations. And predictions are never wrong are they? Predictions are often inaccurate. JRM was an advocate for the hardest possible brexit. So if anything, he's going to underestimate the damage caused by brexit. so let me guess you say more than 50 yrs then maybe a 100 ? Lol " No idea. But the point is, it's not silly to suggest it will be generations before we recover from brexit. | |||
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"And good old Boris Johnson has said that is good for businesses to create more red tape to send goods to Europe what planet is this guy on and the rest of the morons that are in his cabinet." Actually. Europe has said we have to do the paperwork with the red tape. | |||
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"It’s done ! Royal Assent announced in both houses. "You mean we have been done... | |||
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"Skysurfer and Lionel are really pissed that there party voted to accept the deal ha ha. Next year you both may end up having to get jobs instead of living on benefits!!! "Do you often find many people ignore you? | |||
"So if it all goes Pete Tong, it's our own fault. Right?" 
Yeah right | |||
"Skysurfer and Lionel are really pissed that there party voted to accept the deal ha ha. Next year you both may end up having to get jobs instead of living on benefits!!! "You've made a lot of bizarre assumptions here. | |||
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"Skysurfer and Lionel are really pissed that there party voted to accept the deal ha ha. Next year you both may end up having to get jobs instead of living on benefits!!! "Who'd employ them? | |||
"Skysurfer and Lionel are really pissed that there party voted to accept the deal ha ha. Next year you both may end up having to get jobs instead of living on benefits!!!
You've made a lot of bizarre assumptions here.
"They are little charmers arent they? Wishing covid on people and making assumptions straight from the pages of the daily mail. Shame they are too simple to realise the people they kowtow too, wouldnt piss on them if they are on fire. Still its nice to know serfdom is alive and kicking. | |||
"Skysurfer and Lionel are really pissed that there party voted to accept the deal ha ha. Next year you both may end up having to get jobs instead of living on benefits!!!
You've made a lot of bizarre assumptions here.
They are little charmers arent they?
Wishing covid on people and making assumptions straight from the pages of the daily mail.
Shame they are too simple to realise the people they kowtow too, wouldnt piss on them if they are on fire.
Still its nice to know serfdom is alive and kicking."Personal insults come when they've run out of arguments. | |||
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"Why do people think this is it,the real negotiations will start in the new year,all this is a thin deal for a bit of free trade. It will take another 10 years to get this right,both parties know this. As we prosper we will dominate the EU in talks as we will be much stronger out of Europe."
Yeah I think last week proved that | |||
"Why do people think this is it,the real negotiations will start in the new year,all this is a thin deal for a bit of free trade. It will take another 10 years to get this right,both parties know this. As we prosper we will dominate the EU in talks as we will be much stronger out of Europe." 10 years! Blimey. The pro brexit narrative changes more frequently these days. And this claim is new: "As we prosper we will dominate the EU in talks as we will be much stronger out of Europe.". Huge news. Is there anywhere we can look up and read how this is going to happen, because this is a polar opposite to what it's currently looking like. | |||
"Why do people think this is it,the real negotiations will start in the new year,all this is a thin deal for a bit of free trade. It will take another 10 years to get this right,both parties know this. As we prosper we will dominate the EU in talks as we will be much stronger out of Europe.
Yeah I think last week proved that "Last week proved that reality is just no longer a thing for many. | |||
"So. What actually needs fixing that will take generations to do so? Or it that just a throw away line with no subtext. See I could offer that we are now totally free to make trade deals with the whole world while still having tariff free access to Europe as a sound reason why it's better to be out of Europe as a Monopoly Bloc. " Well, no we are not are we. If we deviate (by lowering) from any standards or regulations set by the EU, they have a legal right to impose tariffs on our goods an services, and have right to drag us into their courts. This works both ways, if we increase standards and the EU won't match, we can do the above, however, this unlikely with the Tories. In effect, we are no tied to EU regulations to so e extent. Just without single market access, customs unions rights, and a right to vote on matters. Oh yeah, btw, if the EU imposed tariffs on us, say over agriculture products, any nation they trade with, which also trades with us, is legally bound to put the same tariffs on us. So great, what have we actually gained. | |||
"So. What actually needs fixing that will take generations to do so? Or it that just a throw away line with no subtext. See I could offer that we are now totally free to make trade deals with the whole world while still having tariff free access to Europe as a sound reason why it's better to be out of Europe as a Monopoly Bloc. Well, no we are not are we. If we deviate (by lowering) from any standards or regulations set by the EU, they have a legal right to impose tariffs on our goods an services, and have right to drag us into their courts. This works both ways, if we increase standards and the EU won't match, we can do the above, however, this unlikely with the Tories. In effect, we are no tied to EU regulations to so e extent. Just without single market access, customs unions rights, and a right to vote on matters. Oh yeah, btw, if the EU imposed tariffs on us, say over agriculture products, any nation they trade with, which also trades with us, is legally bound to put the same tariffs on us. So great, what have we actually gained." If only there was some way of knowing that there are no benefits to brexit. If only someone had pointed this out in 2016.  | |||
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"So. What actually needs fixing that will take generations to do so? Or it that just a throw away line with no subtext. See I could offer that we are now totally free to make trade deals with the whole world while still having tariff free access to Europe as a sound reason why it's better to be out of Europe as a Monopoly Bloc. Well, no we are not are we. If we deviate (by lowering) from any standards or regulations set by the EU, they have a legal right to impose tariffs on our goods an services, and have right to drag us into their courts. This works both ways, if we increase standards and the EU won't match, we can do the above, however, this unlikely with the Tories. In effect, we are no tied to EU regulations to so e extent. Just without single market access, customs unions rights, and a right to vote on matters. Oh yeah, btw, if the EU imposed tariffs on us, say over agriculture products, any nation they trade with, which also trades with us, is legally bound to put the same tariffs on us. So great, what have we actually gained." As pointed out before by others this was what the EU wanted along with the ECJ making the judgment . It was not the outcome | |||
"So. What actually needs fixing that will take generations to do so? Or it that just a throw away line with no subtext. See I could offer that we are now totally free to make trade deals with the whole world while still having tariff free access to Europe as a sound reason why it's better to be out of Europe as a Monopoly Bloc. Well, no we are not are we. If we deviate (by lowering) from any standards or regulations set by the EU, they have a legal right to impose tariffs on our goods an services, and have right to drag us into their courts. This works both ways, if we increase standards and the EU won't match, we can do the above, however, this unlikely with the Tories. In effect, we are no tied to EU regulations to so e extent. Just without single market access, customs unions rights, and a right to vote on matters. Oh yeah, btw, if the EU imposed tariffs on us, say over agriculture products, any nation they trade with, which also trades with us, is legally bound to put the same tariffs on us. So great, what have we actually gained. As pointed out before by others this was what the EU wanted along with the ECJ making the judgment . It was not the outcome" I'm very sorry but the above is the outcome. We deviate, the EU slaps tariffs on our goods and services, as do our mutual trading partners. This is enforced by ECJ. Though so far this seems to be the only incident where the ECJ supercedes UK law. It is reciprocated however, we increase our standards, the EU doesn't comply, we put tariffs on their goods and services. This is enforced by the UK courts. This was agreed by Boris as an alternative to the level playing field. It's effectively the same, just watered down. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls. "Indeed. Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster. | |||
"So. What actually needs fixing that will take generations to do so? Or it that just a throw away line with no subtext. See I could offer that we are now totally free to make trade deals with the whole world while still having tariff free access to Europe as a sound reason why it's better to be out of Europe as a Monopoly Bloc. Well, no we are not are we. If we deviate (by lowering) from any standards or regulations set by the EU, they have a legal right to impose tariffs on our goods an services, and have right to drag us into their courts. This works both ways, if we increase standards and the EU won't match, we can do the above, however, this unlikely with the Tories. In effect, we are no tied to EU regulations to so e extent. Just without single market access, customs unions rights, and a right to vote on matters. Oh yeah, btw, if the EU imposed tariffs on us, say over agriculture products, any nation they trade with, which also trades with us, is legally bound to put the same tariffs on us. So great, what have we actually gained. As pointed out before by others this was what the EU wanted along with the ECJ making the judgment . It was not the outcome I'm very sorry but the above is the outcome. We deviate, the EU slaps tariffs on our goods and services, as do our mutual trading partners. This is enforced by ECJ. Though so far this seems to be the only incident where the ECJ supercedes UK law. It is reciprocated however, we increase our standards, the EU doesn't comply, we put tariffs on their goods and services. This is enforced by the UK courts. This was agreed by Boris as an alternative to the level playing field. It's effectively the same, just watered down." Please post a link showing this is the outcome especially with regards to the ECJ as everything I have read says any disputes go to international independent arbitration | |||
"So. What actually needs fixing that will take generations to do so? Or it that just a throw away line with no subtext. See I could offer that we are now totally free to make trade deals with the whole world while still having tariff free access to Europe as a sound reason why it's better to be out of Europe as a Monopoly Bloc. Well, no we are not are we. If we deviate (by lowering) from any standards or regulations set by the EU, they have a legal right to impose tariffs on our goods an services, and have right to drag us into their courts. This works both ways, if we increase standards and the EU won't match, we can do the above, however, this unlikely with the Tories. In effect, we are no tied to EU regulations to so e extent. Just without single market access, customs unions rights, and a right to vote on matters. Oh yeah, btw, if the EU imposed tariffs on us, say over agriculture products, any nation they trade with, which also trades with us, is legally bound to put the same tariffs on us. So great, what have we actually gained. As pointed out before by others this was what the EU wanted along with the ECJ making the judgment . It was not the outcome I'm very sorry but the above is the outcome. We deviate, the EU slaps tariffs on our goods and services, as do our mutual trading partners. This is enforced by ECJ. Though so far this seems to be the only incident where the ECJ supercedes UK law. It is reciprocated however, we increase our standards, the EU doesn't comply, we put tariffs on their goods and services. This is enforced by the UK courts. This was agreed by Boris as an alternative to the level playing field. It's effectively the same, just watered down. Please post a link showing this is the outcome especially with regards to the ECJ as everything I have read says any disputes go to international independent arbitration" Hi, I'll concede I completely misread the part on the disputes going to a international independent arbitration panel within the government published documents. Still, this is based on a failure of one party to adhere to the principles of the evolution clause with a legal document signed giving the right for either party's lawmakers to potentially supercede the other party's government, if supported by the panel. | |||
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"So. What actually needs fixing that will take generations to do so? Or it that just a throw away line with no subtext. See I could offer that we are now totally free to make trade deals with the whole world while still having tariff free access to Europe as a sound reason why it's better to be out of Europe as a Monopoly Bloc. Well, no we are not are we. If we deviate (by lowering) from any standards or regulations set by the EU, they have a legal right to impose tariffs on our goods an services, and have right to drag us into their courts. This works both ways, if we increase standards and the EU won't match, we can do the above, however, this unlikely with the Tories. In effect, we are no tied to EU regulations to so e extent. Just without single market access, customs unions rights, and a right to vote on matters. Oh yeah, btw, if the EU imposed tariffs on us, say over agriculture products, any nation they trade with, which also trades with us, is legally bound to put the same tariffs on us. So great, what have we actually gained. As pointed out before by others this was what the EU wanted along with the ECJ making the judgment . It was not the outcome I'm very sorry but the above is the outcome. We deviate, the EU slaps tariffs on our goods and services, as do our mutual trading partners. This is enforced by ECJ. Though so far this seems to be the only incident where the ECJ supercedes UK law. It is reciprocated however, we increase our standards, the EU doesn't comply, we put tariffs on their goods and services. This is enforced by the UK courts. This was agreed by Boris as an alternative to the level playing field. It's effectively the same, just watered down. Please post a link showing this is the outcome especially with regards to the ECJ as everything I have read says any disputes go to international independent arbitration Hi, I'll concede I completely misread the part on the disputes going to a international independent arbitration panel within the government published documents. Still, this is based on a failure of one party to adhere to the principles of the evolution clause with a legal document signed giving the right for either party's lawmakers to potentially supercede the other party's government, if supported by the panel." Thank you I thought that was the case. For me I'm glad to see the current rights being upheld and hopefully will be welcome to all those who was saying we would loose all these things | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster."well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol"So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on! The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day."it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day."Funny! He said that about you lol. And his OPINION is no less valued than your is. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day.
Funny! He said that about you lol.
And his OPINION is no less valued than your is. "Don't worry about opinion. Brexit is a fact based issue. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job "I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit. Are people based their optimism on reality? | |||
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"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?"To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK. Now stop keep asking the same question "to death" | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?"now we have the chance of the free port on the biggest brown feild site in Western Europe which will create thousands of jobs it’s the site of the old steelworks the same one that went bust because we where in the EU our government were t allowed to help | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?now we have the chance of the free port on the biggest brown feild site in Western Europe which will create thousands of jobs it’s the site of the old steelworks the same one that went bust because we where in the EU our government were t allowed to help "Let's hope that puts an end to stupid questions
But somehow I doubt it | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death""This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death""The yoke | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?now we have the chance of the free port on the biggest brown feild site in Western Europe which will create thousands of jobs it’s the site of the old steelworks the same one that went bust because we where in the EU our government were t allowed to help "Okay. I don't know what any of this is about. Is there somewhere I can read up about it. And is there any reason this couldn't be done while we were in the EU? | |||
| |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
The yoke
"Good one eh Lionel, one you would be proud of  | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?  | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up? "I dunno dude. You said it. Not me. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?now we have the chance of the free port on the biggest brown feild site in Western Europe which will create thousands of jobs it’s the site of the old steelworks the same one that went bust because we where in the EU our government were t allowed to help
Okay. I don't know what any of this is about. Is there somewhere I can read up about it. And is there any reason this couldn't be done while we were in the EU?"Googled this. All I could find is Teesside getting grants from the EU to regenerate brownfield sites. Obviously those grants aren't coming in anymore. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me."I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground." | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?now we have the chance of the free port on the biggest brown feild site in Western Europe which will create thousands of jobs it’s the site of the old steelworks the same one that went bust because we where in the EU our government were t allowed to help
Okay. I don't know what any of this is about. Is there somewhere I can read up about it. And is there any reason this couldn't be done while we were in the EU?
Googled this. All I could find is Teesside getting grants from the EU to regenerate brownfield sites. Obviously those grants aren't coming in anymore.
"radio bbc tees about 8.15 to 8.45 this morn bud no the council bought the site of the tia owners after a few years haggling in court google away | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground." "Correct. You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in) You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from."1. I didn't vote leave. 2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION. 3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION. Are you noticing a pattern here? | |||
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"We'll sink or swim. Myths will be proven and disproven. I just don't want to hear any bullshit excuses if things get difficult. I also hope it'll be good for the UK and that means closing the gap between the richest and poorest of people. A bigger step towards more equality would benefit the country greatly." | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?"Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver. It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact. It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact. | |||
"We'll sink or swim. Myths will be proven and disproven. I just don't want to hear any bullshit excuses if things get difficult. I also hope it'll be good for the UK and that means closing the gap between the richest and poorest of people. A bigger step towards more equality would benefit the country greatly." Sadly brexit was explicitly about transferring power and wealth from ordinary people, to those at the top. This is essentially why people opposed brexit. To stop the gap between the rich and the rest of us widening. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact. "have you listened to the bbs tees interview yet mate ?just like to know ye thoughts onit | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact. "Rights & standards are linked to Tariffs, so unlikely to vary much but it does seems to be your opinion they will change. Always said it will hurt in the begining but it will get better | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact.
Rights & standards are linked to Tariffs, so unlikely to vary much but it does seems to be your opinion they will change.
Always said it will hurt in the begining but it will get better"I hope they don't erode the standards and protections. But I don't trust the Tories as far as I could throw them. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact.
Rights & standards are linked to Tariffs, so unlikely to vary much but it does seems to be your opinion they will change.
Always said it will hurt in the begining but it will get better"Also, we have to stay within these rights and standards then? But no longer have a seat at the decision making table. Seems like a step in the wrong direction. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact. have you listened to the bbs tees interview yet mate ?just like to know ye thoughts onit "No, what is it, where can I find it? | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact.
Rights & standards are linked to Tariffs, so unlikely to vary much but it does seems to be your opinion they will change.
Always said it will hurt in the begining but it will get better
Also, we have to stay within these rights and standards then? But no longer have a seat at the decision making table. Seems like a step in the wrong direction. "But if we had as you say "a seat at the decision making table" surely UK helped put current standards & rights of workers in place. Why change em, especially if it impacts on the trade agreement? | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact.
Rights & standards are linked to Tariffs, so unlikely to vary much but it does seems to be your opinion they will change.
Always said it will hurt in the begining but it will get better
Also, we have to stay within these rights and standards then? But no longer have a seat at the decision making table. Seems like a step in the wrong direction.
But if we had as you say "a seat at the decision making table" surely UK helped put current standards & rights of workers in place. Why change em, especially if it impacts on the trade agreement? "Are you genuinely interested in why we might? If so there is a wealth of information out there on why people like Tim Martin helped to fund the leave campaigns. And if you read up about the possible trade deal with the US, you'll see the on going battle for removing standards. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?now we have the chance of the free port on the biggest brown feild site in Western Europe which will create thousands of jobs it’s the site of the old steelworks the same one that went bust because we where in the EU our government were t allowed to help
Okay. I don't know what any of this is about. Is there somewhere I can read up about it. And is there any reason this couldn't be done while we were in the EU?
Googled this. All I could find is Teesside getting grants from the EU to regenerate brownfield sites. Obviously those grants aren't coming in anymore.
"You do realise where that money came from in the first place. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact.
Rights & standards are linked to Tariffs, so unlikely to vary much but it does seems to be your opinion they will change.
Always said it will hurt in the begining but it will get better
Also, we have to stay within these rights and standards then? But no longer have a seat at the decision making table. Seems like a step in the wrong direction.
But if we had as you say "a seat at the decision making table" surely UK helped put current standards & rights of workers in place. Why change em, especially if it impacts on the trade agreement?
Are you genuinely interested in why we might? If so there is a wealth of information out there on why people like Tim Martin helped to fund the leave campaigns. And if you read up about the possible trade deal with the US, you'll see the on going battle for removing standards. "I do think you're worrying far to much and seeing things that "might" happen as done and dusted. Stop em make sure labour get their $hit together and stop it happening. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact. have you listened to the bbs tees interview yet mate ?just like to know ye thoughts onit
No, what is it, where can I find it?"it was an interview on bbctees this morning with the mayor fuck knows how ya find it tho bud I’m shit with stuff like that | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact. have you listened to the bbs tees interview yet mate ?just like to know ye thoughts onit
No, what is it, where can I find it? it was an interview on bbctees this morning with the mayor fuck knows how ya find it tho bud I’m shit with stuff like that "An interview a couple of months back. https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18777606.mayor-urges-government-give-teesside-first-freeport/ | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact.
Rights & standards are linked to Tariffs, so unlikely to vary much but it does seems to be your opinion they will change.
Always said it will hurt in the begining but it will get better
Also, we have to stay within these rights and standards then? But no longer have a seat at the decision making table. Seems like a step in the wrong direction.
But if we had as you say "a seat at the decision making table" surely UK helped put current standards & rights of workers in place. Why change em, especially if it impacts on the trade agreement? "Probably because if the rotors care for anything, its workers rights. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I know this has been done to death. But is there a single benefit to brexit for Teeside. Doesn't have to outweigh all the negatives. Just a benefit.
Are people based their optimism on reality?
To be out from under the yoke of the EU corruption is benefit enough for the whole of the UK.
Now stop keep asking the same question "to death"
This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground.
Is that based on billy from facebook or just something you made up?
I dunno dude. You said it. Not me.
I know it's Christmas but this is now becoming a pantomime I'm pretty sure you wrote "This is the most ridiculous reason to vote the country into the ground."
Correct.
You're the one saying you voted this country to be poorer, for us to have less opportunities, and to pave the way to removing rights and standards simply because you have some bizarre notion that we were under the "yoke of EU corruption". (As if the EU was some abstract organisation we had no say in)
You're the one making outrageous nonsensical statements. Then demanding I answer where I got my ideas from.
1. I didn't vote leave.
2. Your OPINION, the government will remove rights and standards, is just that you're OPINION.
3. Running the country into the ground is also your OPINION.
Are you noticing a pattern here?
Apologies. I think the second time I accused you of being a leaver.
It's not my opinion that the government can now remove the standards and rights. It's fact.
It's not my opinion that we will be worse off now. It's fact. have you listened to the bbs tees interview yet mate ?just like to know ye thoughts onit
No, what is it, where can I find it? it was an interview on bbctees this morning with the mayor fuck knows how ya find it tho bud I’m shit with stuff like that
An interview a couple of months back.
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18777606.mayor-urges-government-give-teesside-first-freeport/"no this morning between 8.15 and 8.45 ish | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls. "I'm sure the economic impact studies will answer that question in far less time | |||
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"First fact - Not OPINION - Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit. "Are we now expect to celebrate when one single thing, on one single day, isn't going awry? If we didn't vote brexit. We would also not have had delays on this day. | |||
"First fact - Not OPINION - Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.
Are we now expect to celebrate when one single thing, on one single day, isn't going awry?
If we didn't vote brexit. We would also not have had delays on this day.
"Yes. We've been told every seconds what is going to go wrong with OPINIONS so now we are answering back with FACTS. And if there wasn't a Brexit we would be talking about this anyway would we !!! | |||
"First fact - Not OPINION - Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.
Are we now expect to celebrate when one single thing, on one single day, isn't going awry?
If we didn't vote brexit. We would also not have had delays on this day.
Yes. We've been told every seconds what is going to go wrong with OPINIONS so now we are answering back with FACTS.
And if there wasn't a Brexit we would be talking about this anyway would we !!!
"If there wasn't a brexit a lot of shit things wouldn't be happening. Enjoy celebrating each thing that doesn't go wrong while you continue to ignore everything else going on in the world around you. | |||
"First fact - Not OPINION - Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.
Are we now expect to celebrate when one single thing, on one single day, isn't going awry?
If we didn't vote brexit. We would also not have had delays on this day.
"But the majority voted for independence from the EU, they confirmed it, surprisingly with a massive vote for the party that promised to deliver it. We are we are, we all need to get on with it & make the best of what there is. | |||
" Enjoy celebrating each thing that doesn't go wrong while you continue to ignore everything else going on in the world around you. " Of course I will celebrate what is going right. I voted for it now I want to see it work. So I will celebrate where it does and be disappointed where it doesn't. But I will base all of those things on PROVEN FACTS not what my OPINION of them is. "while you continue to ignore everything else going on in the world around you." Is a semantically null sentence - what things are going wrong? How you you possibly know what I'm ignoring around me? Or is that just a throw away doesn't actually mean anything style of being angry with something that you don't like? A bit like taking your ball home I guess. | |||
"First fact - Not OPINION - Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.
Are we now expect to celebrate when one single thing, on one single day, isn't going awry?
If we didn't vote brexit. We would also not have had delays on this day.
Yes. We've been told every seconds what is going to go wrong with OPINIONS so now we are answering back with FACTS.
And if there wasn't a Brexit we would be talking about this anyway would we !!!
If there wasn't a brexit a lot of shit things wouldn't be happening.
Enjoy celebrating each thing that doesn't go wrong while you continue to ignore everything else going on in the world around you.
"yes they would, free movement of people the fundamental principle of the EU was broken by France with the last COVID thing. Yes it’s a pandemic but the where prepared only to let the french back in (with a negative test result) so what happened then, fair enough don’t let the British in (racist french) but the Dutch Belgium Polish & Spanish drivers too. Some European unity that is. | |||
" Enjoy celebrating each thing that doesn't go wrong while you continue to ignore everything else going on in the world around you. Of course I will celebrate what is going right. I voted for it now I want to see it work. So I will celebrate where it does and be disappointed where it doesn't. But I will base all of those things on PROVEN FACTS not what my OPINION of them is. while you continue to ignore everything else going on in the world around you. Is a semantically null sentence - what things are going wrong? How you you possibly know what I'm ignoring around me? Or is that just a throw away doesn't actually mean anything style of being angry with something that you don't like? A bit like taking your ball home I guess. " For example you're celebrating some trucks not being delayed on one single day. While ignoring the cost of brexit to the economy. Estimated to be well into the billions in 2020 alone. | |||
"First fact - Not OPINION - Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.
Are we now expect to celebrate when one single thing, on one single day, isn't going awry?
If we didn't vote brexit. We would also not have had delays on this day.
Yes. We've been told every seconds what is going to go wrong with OPINIONS so now we are answering back with FACTS.
And if there wasn't a Brexit we would be talking about this anyway would we !!!
If there wasn't a brexit a lot of shit things wouldn't be happening.
Enjoy celebrating each thing that doesn't go wrong while you continue to ignore everything else going on in the world around you.
yes they would, free movement of people the fundamental principle of the EU was broken by France with the last COVID thing. Yes it’s a pandemic but the where prepared only to let the french back in (with a negative test result) so what happened then, fair enough don’t let the British in (racist french) but the Dutch Belgium Polish & Spanish drivers too. Some European unity that is. "Obviously some are more equal than others in Europe & it is normally the French. | |||
"First fact - Not OPINION - Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.
Are we now expect to celebrate when one single thing, on one single day, isn't going awry?
If we didn't vote brexit. We would also not have had delays on this day.
But the majority voted for independence from the EU, they confirmed it, surprisingly with a massive vote for the party that promised to deliver it. We are we are, we all need to get on with it & make the best of what there is. "We do need to make the best of a shit situation. But that doesn't magically make brexit a good thing. UK was an independent nation the whole time we were in the EU. | |||
" For example you're celebrating some trucks not being delayed on one single day. While ignoring the cost of brexit to the economy. Estimated to be well into the billions in 2020 alone." Trucks not being delayed at the borders - Great News on the First day of Brexit. "While ignoring the cost of brexit to the economy. Estimated to be well into the billions in 2020 alone." Estimated in someones OPINION not yet a FACT. Just as many also estimate that we will have Billions more in trade deals - but I'm not celebrating those or swinging them around like a baseball bat because they are NOT YET FACTS. | |||
" For example you're celebrating some trucks not being delayed on one single day. While ignoring the cost of brexit to the economy. Estimated to be well into the billions in 2020 alone. Trucks not being delayed at the borders - Great News on the First day of Brexit. While ignoring the cost of brexit to the economy. Estimated to be well into the billions in 2020 alone. Estimated in someones OPINION not yet a FACT. Just as many also estimate that we will have Billions more in trade deals - but I'm not celebrating those or swinging them around like a baseball bat because they are NOT YET FACTS. " Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. Celebrating things not going wrong. Seems weird. Every moment of every day must be a joyous moment. Fair play to you. | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening." It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? "Celebrating things not going wrong. Seems weird. Every moment of every day must be a joyous moment. Fair play to you." Says more about the way 'you' live 'your' life than it does about mine. ______________________________ A word about "The Two Wolves": An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life: “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy. “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil–he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you–and inside every other person, too.” The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf will win?” The old Cherokee replied, “The one you feed.” From an Old Cherokee Proverb. Be kind to each other - be kind to yourself. | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? Celebrating things not going wrong. Seems weird. Every moment of every day must be a joyous moment. Fair play to you. Says more about the way 'you' live 'your' life than it does about mine. ______________________________ A word about "The Two Wolves": An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life: “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy. “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil–he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you–and inside every other person, too.” The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf will win?” The old Cherokee replied, “The one you feed.” From an Old Cherokee Proverb. Be kind to each other - be kind to yourself. "What's this got to do with burying your head in the sand? Wait.... My hand didn't fall off. Woo hoo! Party. Hold on... My hand didn't fall off again. Fuck yeah!!!! 1 second.... My hand is still attached.... Yeah!!! You get the point. Anyway I'm glad you're happy that we voted ourselves into a position for things to go wrong. Then one of the things didn't go wrong. | |||
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"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job "I read up about Ben Houchen. A Euro Sceptic Tory, strong on propaganda, catchphrases and meaningless rhetoric. Reading up about the impact of brexit on the north east was interesting. Most articles seem to agree that the impact will be felt more sharply than in the south east. The success of the region largely hinges on Westminster, if the government is prepared to replicate the EU funding and investment in the area. Cornwall is in a similar situation. The government has already said it won't match the investment from the EU. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I read up about Ben Houchen. A Euro Sceptic Tory, strong on propaganda, catchphrases and meaningless rhetoric.
Reading up about the impact of brexit on the north east was interesting. Most articles seem to agree that the impact will be felt more sharply than in the south east. The success of the region largely hinges on Westminster, if the government is prepared to replicate the EU funding and investment in the area.
Cornwall is in a similar situation. The government has already said it won't match the investment from the EU. "Same situation in N Ireland. Westminister hasn't covered the shortfall in Invest NI EU funding, it's down 15%. | |||
"From this point on it's ONLY opinion that Brexit will go well or not. And until we have at least a year or two under our belt. The rest is just sausage rolls.
Indeed.
Alas there are 0 indicators that this will be any good for the UK, and a large number of indications that it will continue to be a massive disaster.well I live in teesside and the mayor is over the moon and says the only ways up ah but that’s positive forgot yr looking for negatives lol
So brexit is good because the Mayor of Teeside doesn't understand what's going on!
The pro brexit argument gets more tenuous by the day. it’s good for teesside mate he’s just doing his job
I read up about Ben Houchen. A Euro Sceptic Tory, strong on propaganda, catchphrases and meaningless rhetoric.
Reading up about the impact of brexit on the north east was interesting. Most articles seem to agree that the impact will be felt more sharply than in the south east. The success of the region largely hinges on Westminster, if the government is prepared to replicate the EU funding and investment in the area.
Cornwall is in a similar situation. The government has already said it won't match the investment from the EU.
Same situation in N Ireland. Westminister hasn't covered the shortfall in Invest NI EU funding, it's down 15%."How much does NI pay into the EU now? | |||
" For example you're celebrating some trucks not being delayed on one single day. While ignoring the cost of brexit to the economy. Estimated to be well into the billions in 2020 alone. Trucks not being delayed at the borders - Great News on the First day of Brexit. While ignoring the cost of brexit to the economy. Estimated to be well into the billions in 2020 alone. Estimated in someones OPINION not yet a FACT. Just as many also estimate that we will have Billions more in trade deals - but I'm not celebrating those or swinging them around like a baseball bat because they are NOT YET FACTS. Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. Celebrating things not going wrong. Seems weird. Every moment of every day must be a joyous moment. Fair play to you." It won't be long at all before we get solid figures | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? " So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. " It wasn’t the government that tore its self to shreds & wasted time & money, it was parliament & their refusal to accept a result in a vote that took place & resulted in us leaving the EU. Know we know they should of worked on it together but they didn’t they all wanted gain political point at the expense of the rest of us. X | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. It wasn’t the government that tore its self to shreds & wasted time & money, it was parliament & their refusal to accept a result in a vote that took place & resulted in us leaving the EU. Know we know they should of worked on it together but they didn’t they all wanted gain political point at the expense of the rest of us. X" The likes of Boris voting down May's deal, then spending time maneuvering himself into a position to become PM. Then prologueing parliament, Then renaming May's deal and pushing it through. That kind of time wasting? | |||
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"In other news since the vote tampon tax is scrapped " in other news scotland have already made sanitary products free | |||
"In other news since the vote tampon tax is scrapped in other news scotland have already made sanitary products free " Sadly not in Scotland | |||
"I'm assuming boris didn't announce the arrival of this weeks €350 million because the banks are closed, anyway will be good to have it monday." He said he’s going to hang on to it , just in case there’s a bit of bother lurking round the corner ... | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. It wasn’t the government that tore its self to shreds & wasted time & money, it was parliament & their refusal to accept a result in a vote that took place & resulted in us leaving the EU. Know we know they should of worked on it together but they didn’t they all wanted gain political point at the expense of the rest of us. X The likes of Boris voting down May's deal, then spending time maneuvering himself into a position to become PM. Then prologueing parliament, Then renaming May's deal and pushing it through. That kind of time wasting? " Was Boris the only one to turn down Mays deal? I’m sure she told both of those little posh boys the other day that they both voted against her deal. Was he the only jester in the house of cards playing games & that’s both sides of the political divide & berexit divide, nope it’s just he played the better game. X | |||
"I'm assuming boris didn't announce the arrival of this weeks €350 million because the banks are closed, anyway will be good to have it monday. He said he’s going to hang on to it , just in case there’s a bit of bother lurking round the corner ... " When is it we stop paying £ into the EU or have we already done so? If we have stopped he has no excuse but if not it’s not there. You won’t pay me next years wage in advance will you? | |||
"In other news since the vote tampon tax is scrapped in other news scotland have already made sanitary products free Sadly not in Scotland" then vote wisely next time round | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. It wasn’t the government that tore its self to shreds & wasted time & money, it was parliament & their refusal to accept a result in a vote that took place & resulted in us leaving the EU. Know we know they should of worked on it together but they didn’t they all wanted gain political point at the expense of the rest of us. X The likes of Boris voting down May's deal, then spending time maneuvering himself into a position to become PM. Then prologueing parliament, Then renaming May's deal and pushing it through. That kind of time wasting? Was Boris the only one to turn down Mays deal? I’m sure she told both of those little posh boys the other day that they both voted against her deal. Was he the only jester in the house of cards playing games & that’s both sides of the political divide & berexit divide, nope it’s just he played the better game. X" I dunno what your point is anymore. All I'm saying is that Boris Johnson, who you seem to think is beyond criticism, who delayed things. You seemed to be trying to be everyone else for his part in this clusterfuck. | |||
"All.the relevant parties where given advance copies. As is the normal procedure before a commons debate. Along with advance submission of questions to the house PM and relevant Ministers. Learn how your parliamentary system works." | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. It wasn’t the government that tore its self to shreds & wasted time & money, it was parliament & their refusal to accept a result in a vote that took place & resulted in us leaving the EU. Know we know they should of worked on it together but they didn’t they all wanted gain political point at the expense of the rest of us. X The likes of Boris voting down May's deal, then spending time maneuvering himself into a position to become PM. Then prologueing parliament, Then renaming May's deal and pushing it through. That kind of time wasting? Was Boris the only one to turn down Mays deal? I’m sure she told both of those little posh boys the other day that they both voted against her deal. Was he the only jester in the house of cards playing games & that’s both sides of the political divide & berexit divide, nope it’s just he played the better game. X I dunno what your point is anymore. All I'm saying is that Boris Johnson, who you seem to think is beyond criticism, who delayed things. You seemed to be trying to be everyone else for his part in this clusterfuck." Basically my point is we can’t just blame one idiot because he wasn’t the only idiot in the village of Westminster playing the game of what they like to call politics. That is what the majority of MP’s do, they are carrier politicians with little thought or regard for the rest of us. Are you denying that they should of at least come together to try to sort out what most would call a mess & others an opportunity? | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. It wasn’t the government that tore its self to shreds & wasted time & money, it was parliament & their refusal to accept a result in a vote that took place & resulted in us leaving the EU. Know we know they should of worked on it together but they didn’t they all wanted gain political point at the expense of the rest of us. X The likes of Boris voting down May's deal, then spending time maneuvering himself into a position to become PM. Then prologueing parliament, Then renaming May's deal and pushing it through. That kind of time wasting? Was Boris the only one to turn down Mays deal? I’m sure she told both of those little posh boys the other day that they both voted against her deal. Was he the only jester in the house of cards playing games & that’s both sides of the political divide & berexit divide, nope it’s just he played the better game. X I dunno what your point is anymore. All I'm saying is that Boris Johnson, who you seem to think is beyond criticism, who delayed things. You seemed to be trying to be everyone else for his part in this clusterfuck. Basically my point is we can’t just blame one idiot because he wasn’t the only idiot in the village of Westminster playing the game of what they like to call politics. That is what the majority of MP’s do, they are carrier politicians with little thought or regard for the rest of us. Are you denying that they should of at least come together to try to sort out what most would call a mess & others an opportunity?" I completely agree with the first part of your post. I don't really know what your asking in the second part. The government should have tried to put together a proposal to attempt to get the least damaging brexit possible, instead of dicking around with leadership contests and lining their own pockets. The opposition should have put their proposal forward for the least damaging form of brexit and then proceeded to scrutinise the government. | |||
" Fact that it cost the economy billions. Just because economics is fickle and we don't know the exact figure. Doesn't mean it's not happening. It also doesn't mean it is. Or show us the FACTS that it is? So without a definitive figure something is only an opinion and cannot be true? Quite Conveniant I know for a fact that people have died in the world today but according to you it's only my opinion that people have died because I don't have figures to prove it. Just take the Bank of England's billions splurge of QE just to mitigate the referendum result for starters. Billions of lost investment over the years while the UK Government tore it's self to shreds dithering over actually getting on with Brexit. There can never be a definitive figure put on something so complex as this but common sense would indicate with what information is available that Brexit has cost an astronomical amount of money unless your embarrassed to admit it because you voted for it. Then you need your piss weak argument over requiring exact figures or it's just opinion is in your mind your free get out of jail card because your argument is totally floored. It wasn’t the government that tore its self to shreds & wasted time & money, it was parliament & their refusal to accept a result in a vote that took place & resulted in us leaving the EU. Know we know they should of worked on it together but they didn’t they all wanted gain political point at the expense of the rest of us. X The likes of Boris voting down May's deal, then spending time maneuvering himself into a position to become PM. Then prologueing parliament, Then renaming May's deal and pushing it through. That kind of time wasting? " Yup, that kind of tearing to shreds and time wasting | |||
