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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ? |
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Wasn't that 150k records - and in the process of being recovered?
Not really into this culture of some idiot in IT deletes info' and someone else gets the sack.
Not a fan of Patel at all but I would be less of fan of the IT idiot - let them be the one that gets it. |
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for clarity....
A letter sent to senior officers on the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on Friday from deputy chief constable Naveed Malik, lead for the organisation on the PNC, outlines the scale of records affected: “In PNC approximately 213,000 offence records, 175,000 arrest records and 15,000 person records have potentially been deleted in error. In terms of understanding the potential linkage between records, a one-person record can have multiple arrest records and one arrest record can have multiple offences linked to it.”
The DNA database is connected to the PNC and has also been hit, the police chief’s letter reveals. It says: “Approximately 26,000 DNA records corresponding to 21,710 subjects have potentially been deleted in error, including records that have previously been marked for indefinite retention following conviction of serious offences.”
Technicians are also scrambling to recover tens of thousands of fingerprint records, according to the deputy chief constable’s letter, which says that “30,000 fingerprint records and 600 subject records have potentially been deleted in error”. |
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"The problem has been identified, and measures put into place so it can't happen again. "
Do we know what the problem is that lead to the records being deleted - data update, migration, software, someone accidentally pressing the “yes I do want I delete these records”?
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"The problem has been identified, and measures put into place so it can't happen again.
Do we know what the problem is that lead to the records being deleted - data update, migration, software, someone accidentally pressing the “yes I do want I delete these records”?
It’s very fishy. I think there’s more to this story, maybe even a libertarian policy that’s been exposed.
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The policing minister, Kit Malthouse, said “Unfortunately down to human error, some defective code was introduced as part of that routine maintenance earlier this week and that’s resulted in a deletion of some records and that’s currently under investigation.
We are now working very quickly with policing partners and within the Home Office to try and recover the data and assess the full extent of the problem.”
it seems the home secretaty priti patel has refused to give any kind of statement and chooses to hide behind her junior minister. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"The policing minister, Kit Malthouse, said “Unfortunately down to human error, some defective code was introduced as part of that routine maintenance earlier this week and that’s resulted in a deletion of some records and that’s currently under investigation.
We are now working very quickly with policing partners and within the Home Office to try and recover the data and assess the full extent of the problem.”
it seems the home secretaty priti patel has refused to give any kind of statement and chooses to hide behind her junior minister."
Or maybe she is busy trying to find out who is responsible and who can fix it.  |
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It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for."
It amazes me how you are able to compare apples with pairs.Priti would not have given the job to whoever caused this mess as it will be a civil servant ,Burnham acually approved and accoladed the continuation of the chief of gmp |
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"It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for.It amazes me how you are able to compare apples with pairs.Priti would not have given the job to whoever caused this mess as it will be a civil servant ,Burnham acually approved and accoladed the continuation of the chief of gmp "
As I recall you stated Burnham hired the person in question and sat in on his interview.
And when you were proved wrong you had a flounce.
And thank you for proving my point. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for.It amazes me how you are able to compare apples with pairs.Priti would not have given the job to whoever caused this mess as it will be a civil servant ,Burnham acually approved and accoladed the continuation of the chief of gmp
As I recall you stated Burnham hired the person in question and sat in on his interview.
And when you were proved wrong you had a flounce.
And thank you for proving my point."
No i think you will find i said that he rehired him and congratulated him on what a great job he was doing but you are diverting as usual when proved wrong. |
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"It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for.It amazes me how you are able to compare apples with pairs.Priti would not have given the job to whoever caused this mess as it will be a civil servant ,Burnham acually approved and accoladed the continuation of the chief of gmp
As I recall you stated Burnham hired the person in question and sat in on his interview.
And when you were proved wrong you had a flounce.
And thank you for proving my point.No i think you will find i said that he rehired him and congratulated him on what a great job he was doing but you are diverting as usual when proved wrong."
Ha ha
Fab totally embarrassed you and you got a strop on
You cant even admit you were talking shite and got found out |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for.It amazes me how you are able to compare apples with pairs.Priti would not have given the job to whoever caused this mess as it will be a civil servant ,Burnham acually approved and accoladed the continuation of the chief of gmp
As I recall you stated Burnham hired the person in question and sat in on his interview.
And when you were proved wrong you had a flounce.
And thank you for proving my point.No i think you will find i said that he rehired him and congratulated him on what a great job he was doing but you are diverting as usual when proved wrong.
Ha ha
Fab totally embarrassed you and you got a strop on
You cant even admit you were talking shite and got found out "
You really do have a funny way of looking at things, the only person you embarrass every time you post is yourself and as for getting a strop dont class everyone by your own personal experiences because i never do either on here or in the real world. |
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"It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for.It amazes me how you are able to compare apples with pairs.Priti would not have given the job to whoever caused this mess as it will be a civil servant ,Burnham acually approved and accoladed the continuation of the chief of gmp
As I recall you stated Burnham hired the person in question and sat in on his interview.
And when you were proved wrong you had a flounce.
And thank you for proving my point.No i think you will find i said that he rehired him and congratulated him on what a great job he was doing but you are diverting as usual when proved wrong.
Ha ha
Fab totally embarrassed you and you got a strop on
You cant even admit you were talking shite and got found out You really do have a funny way of looking at things, the only person you embarrass every time you post is yourself and as for getting a strop dont class everyone by your own personal experiences because i never do either on here or in the real world. "
Translation
Yep I got found out but let's not dwell on that. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Why ? Did she delete them ?"
If a Football team gets relegated ,
Do they sack the players or get rid
Of those in charge ? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Why ? Did she delete them ?
If a Football team gets relegated ,
Do they sack the players or get rid
Of those in charge ?"
Hardly football though is it?
If a postman has been caught nicking the post do they sack the postmaster general?
If a copper is found to corrupt do they sack the police chief?
If a bank manager commits fraud do they sack the ceo? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Why ? Did she delete them ?
If a Football team gets relegated ,
Do they sack the players or get rid
Of those in charge ?Hardly football though is it?
If a postman has been caught nicking the post do they sack the postmaster general?
If a copper is found to corrupt do they sack the police chief?
If a bank manager commits fraud do they sack the ceo? "
If a Postie knicks from the post office
Everyone will be investigated & moved on
I know someone who had £26,000 out of registers male .
The top man at the sorting office was retired within
3 months 2 years before he needed to retire
A police chief who cant control his
Junior officers will be moved on
( No Control)
A bank Manager who allows fraud to take place
WILL BE Moved on
( Security is everything ). |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Why ? Did she delete them ?
If a Football team gets relegated ,
Do they sack the players or get rid
Of those in charge ?Hardly football though is it?
If a postman has been caught nicking the post do they sack the postmaster general?
If a copper is found to corrupt do they sack the police chief?
If a bank manager commits fraud do they sack the ceo?
If a Postie knicks from the post office
Everyone will be investigated & moved on
I know someone who had £26,000 out of registers male .
The top man at the sorting office was retired within
3 months 2 years before he needed to retire
A police chief who cant control his
Junior officers will be moved on
( No Control)
A bank Manager who allows fraud to take place
WILL BE Moved on
( Security is everything )."
Totally agree mate, but i think there will be a lot more in line managers further down the line who are responsible for the twat who did it so i think you have validated my point.  |
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Given the point in time we are at, my suspicion would go to a cock up as part of the severing connections between UK and EU database systems. The last minute nature of the agreement (christmas eve, to take effect new years day) will have left a bunch of IT nerds (meant in a kind way, not a derogatory way) rushing to implement something poorly specified and not at all understood by the ones barking out orders. There will have been software engineers and IT technicians trying to do too much in too little time, multiple teams working at cross purposes with each other, all told that this was LEGAL REQUIREMENTS and that they would be held personally responsible if it wasn't completed. [Anybody that has ever worked in IT knows the sort of shit that is dumped on the workers by the managers].
To be honest, I'm surprised that it wasn't a bigger mess. Normally a by product of any database update is a raft of extra backups of the information, but leaving the EU gave the problem of there being huge amounts of information that the UK police was no longer allowed to have any access to or copies of. It must have been a mad time of writing computer scripts to trawl through the records and irretrievably delete stuff, with backups not allowed because the requirement was to explicitly get rid of information that was now illegal to be held in the UK...
Of course the poor buggers working the computer keyboards will be crucified, the ones at the top responsible for the mess will be given a pay rise... |
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PNC is, was and always will be crap anyway. It’s a computer system from the 70’s and hasn’t aged well. Clunky code and notoriously difficult to work with. Not surprised something like this happened tbh. |
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"Will never understand why all important records are not printed on paper and stored surely all records should be duplicated.The reliance on computers I crazy when will society grasp this?"
You can't hack a paper document from Russia.
Only downside is the room would have to be massive, to store them all. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"Will never understand why all important records are not printed on paper and stored surely all records should be duplicated.The reliance on computers I crazy when will society grasp this?
You can't hack a paper document from Russia.
Only downside is the room would have to be massive, to store them all."
they used to do this had huge buildings to store them in old mills were good for this but they were very vulnerable to fires tried to find my grandfarthers ww1 service records saddly destroyed in a warehouse fire during the blitz in ww2 so only have his discharge card |
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"Will never understand why all important records are not printed on paper and stored surely all records should be duplicated.The reliance on computers I crazy when will society grasp this?
You can't hack a paper document from Russia.
Only downside is the room would have to be massive, to store them all.they used to do this had huge buildings to store them in old mills were good for this but they were very vulnerable to fires tried to find my grandfarthers ww1 service records saddly destroyed in a warehouse fire during the blitz in ww2 so only have his discharge card "
Click of a button or burn the building down! Ones much easier  |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Will never understand why all important records are not printed on paper and stored surely all records should be duplicated.The reliance on computers I crazy when will society grasp this?
Agree "
I think that old paper documents breach new data ptotection laws. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"Will never understand why all important records are not printed on paper and stored surely all records should be duplicated.The reliance on computers I crazy when will society grasp this?
Agree
I think that old paper documents breach new data ptotection laws. "
Then lets change the law |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Will never understand why all important records are not printed on paper and stored surely all records should be duplicated.The reliance on computers I crazy when will society grasp this?
Agree
I think that old paper documents breach new data ptotection laws. Then lets change the law"
Change the new data protection laws back to the old data protection laws? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Why ? Did she delete them ?
If a Football team gets relegated ,
Do they sack the players or get rid
Of those in charge ?Hardly football though is it?
If a postman has been caught nicking the post do they sack the postmaster general?
If a copper is found to corrupt do they sack the police chief?
If a bank manager commits fraud do they sack the ceo?
If a Postie knicks from the post office
Everyone will be investigated & moved on
I know someone who had £26,000 out of registers male .
The top man at the sorting office was retired within
3 months 2 years before he needed to retire
A police chief who cant control his
Junior officers will be moved on
( No Control)
A bank Manager who allows fraud to take place
WILL BE Moved on
( Security is everything ).Totally agree mate, but i think there will be a lot more in line managers further down the line who are responsible for the twat who did it so i think you have validated my point. "
Not that old garbage line again eh
Err i fink youve validated my point .
Poppycock Pumpkin
I have dismantled your point
You know it
You try to agree
Then claim i validated you
This isnt Fab Verifications
This is Politics thread
Validate your own blinking points
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"Will never understand why all important records are not printed on paper and stored surely all records should be duplicated.The reliance on computers I crazy when will society grasp this?"
Unfortunately emma, the sheer amount of the records now makes it impossible to use paper storage. Much of the value of the information is not just in the bare details of a data entry, but in the cross connections between the records. The paper records would be unusable in any timely manner for crime investigation (reading through tens of thousands of pages to find connections, something that takes just seconds on computer systems?), nor even as a backup for lost data (hunting through millions of pages just to find which bits had gone missing from the computers, then spending multiple man years re-entering the information). It is almost impossible to comprehend the sheer volume of information that is now stored within national computer systems. A single disk drive within a home computer system can now hold at least the equivalent of 50 million pages of printed text. This means that (quick calculation) to print the information stored on a £25 disk drive would now cost in the region of £250,000 just for the paper alone... |
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?"
This is bullshit, the Home Secretary is not at fault. She may be a super arsehole, but pressuring her to accept liability for an issue which was beyond her control. |
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?"
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.? |
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"It would be interesting to hear the views of the people who called for burnham to go,when gmp were not investigating crimes properly.
As cat said..its a human error.
There are plenty of other things priti is accountable for."
Now calm down calm down our kid. Maybe Burnham was glad GMP didn’t investigate crimes properly or they may of found that Scouse accent he use to have. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?"
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
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What if there's something wrong with the paint?  |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
This is bullshit, the Home Secretary is not at fault. She may be a super arsehole, but pressuring her to accept liability for an issue which was beyond her control. "
At last someone whos common sense overrides their political bias. |
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
This is bullshit, the Home Secretary is not at fault. She may be a super arsehole, but pressuring her to accept liability for an issue which was beyond her control. At last someone whos common sense overrides their political bias. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
"
So by this annalogy your saying the IT guys told pritti they don't have the correct materials ( skill set ) like your purple paint only point, and she supplied more people with the correct skill set ( more IT Personel) that could do the job , ie she supplied the correct paint to do the job correctly , she inspected the door herself prior to painting to.
Is this what happened.
OR
Did pretti hire a tradesman ( painter ) IT staff to do a job they are trained for and expect them to do the job just like you would hire a painter to paint a green door as instructed. And expect any issues painting the door would be looked at and resolved.
While stripping the green door ready for repainting the door is found to have woodworm below the surface but the painter paints over it anyway. When the door is finished and looks awful its hardly prittis fault the door looks awful. |
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
So by this annalogy your saying the IT guys told pritti they don't have the correct materials ( skill set ) like your purple paint only point, and she supplied more people with the correct skill set ( more IT Personel) that could do the job , ie she supplied the correct paint to do the job correctly , she inspected the door herself prior to painting to.
Is this what happened.
OR
Did pretti hire a tradesman ( painter ) IT staff to do a job they are trained for and expect them to do the job just like you would hire a painter to paint a green door as instructed. And expect any issues painting the door would be looked at and resolved.
While stripping the green door ready for repainting the door is found to have woodworm below the surface but the painter paints over it anyway. When the door is finished and looks awful its hardly prittis fault the door looks awful. "
By this analogy, if patel is abusive and threatening towards the tradesmen (allegedly her default mode of behaviour), doesn't give them clear instruction, doesn't give them the time they need, will not let them explain to her the complexities of door painting (stripping away old flaking paint, priming of surface, patch test of this new unproven type of paint, spare door in case there is some corrosive action between the incompatible primer-undercoat-gloss layers that rots holes in the PVC door), but keeps ordering "there's 100 million doors to be done, you're starting on them christmas day and they'd better be finished by new years eve or I'll have your balls" - who is at fault?
Every single person that has worked in IT at the coalface of actually using the keyboard will recognise this. Yes, not all bosses are bad, some are excellent. But when the very top of the organisation is run by inadequacy and fear, the tradesmen doing the job are often fucked before they have even started. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
What if there's something wrong with the paint? "
A 3rd note says.
If there is Something wrong with the Green Paint
Dont Paint the Door .
If you decide to use some other paint
I will DELETE YOU !!
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
So by this annalogy your saying the IT guys told pritti they don't have the correct materials ( skill set ) like your purple paint only point, and she supplied more people with the correct skill set ( more IT Personel) that could do the job , ie she supplied the correct paint to do the job correctly , she inspected the door herself prior to painting to.
Is this what happened.
OR
Did pretti hire a tradesman ( painter ) IT staff to do a job they are trained for and expect them to do the job just like you would hire a painter to paint a green door as instructed. And expect any issues painting the door would be looked at and resolved.
While stripping the green door ready for repainting the door is found to have woodworm below the surface but the painter paints over it anyway. When the door is finished and looks awful its hardly prittis fault the door looks awful. "
What are you talking about ?
Its a brand New Door
When i took over the ownership of the House
I bought NEW DOORS for My Own Security !
They needed Painting
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
So by this annalogy your saying the IT guys told pritti they don't have the correct materials ( skill set ) like your purple paint only point, and she supplied more people with the correct skill set ( more IT Personel) that could do the job , ie she supplied the correct paint to do the job correctly , she inspected the door herself prior to painting to.
Is this what happened.
OR
Did pretti hire a tradesman ( painter ) IT staff to do a job they are trained for and expect them to do the job just like you would hire a painter to paint a green door as instructed. And expect any issues painting the door would be looked at and resolved.
While stripping the green door ready for repainting the door is found to have woodworm below the surface but the painter paints over it anyway. When the door is finished and looks awful its hardly prittis fault the door looks awful.
What are you talking about ?
Its a brand New Door
When i took over the ownership of the House
I bought NEW DOORS for My Own Security !
They needed Painting
"
Yeah but in this case it actually is a scabby old door (police national computer system) that has been given so many coats of paint over the years, has had so much post shoved through its letter box, doesn't even fit in the door frame properly any more. And the instruction was to remove every single trace of green paint from the door, without making the slightest chip in the purple, yellow, white, red, sky blue pink layers. And the tradesman mutters under his breath "how the fuck do i do that then", but the owner of the door shouts at him "just fucking do it because the no green paint law comes in at midnight and if the jobs not finished it's YOUR fault". |
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I’m sure she didn’t write the contract, & I’m sure she wouldn’t be aware of every detail in every contract that her department signs, that’s the job of the civil service, you know the ones that are in Whitehall all their working lives no matter who is in power, or the lawyers they employ to check things? Does anyone else remember yes minister or yes prime minister from the 80’s? Apparently according to both sides of the house for a comedy it was very realistic x |
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After reading this thread I'm never getting ANY kind of work done on my house again . Ps I paint my own fucking doors before anyone says anything else about door painting. I blame shakin Stevens for all this green door painting shit anyways. |
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"And the Case of 213,000 delted records
As Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
Is she under pressure to resign or
Will she Coerce a Civil Servant to go ?
Did she go in & do the job herself, has she got a degree in I.T. If a painter came to your house to paint your door & you told them you wanted it painting green, & they painted it purple would it be your fault or the painter who did the job.?
It would be mine
I should have bought green paint & done it myself
Its only a f*cking door , id think to myself .
Its not like a painter is really that clever
Big sign on the door saying Green please
Ive got Purple though
2nd note on the door
I dont care if youve got f*cking Purple
I said Green & the tin is below your eyes!!.
See just shows
No matter how many times you tell someone to do
Something they might f*ck it up.
Therefore its ALWAYS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to
Make sure your painters are competent & Have the
Correct Colour Paint !!
So by this annalogy your saying the IT guys told pritti they don't have the correct materials ( skill set ) like your purple paint only point, and she supplied more people with the correct skill set ( more IT Personel) that could do the job , ie she supplied the correct paint to do the job correctly , she inspected the door herself prior to painting to.
Is this what happened.
OR
Did pretti hire a tradesman ( painter ) IT staff to do a job they are trained for and expect them to do the job just like you would hire a painter to paint a green door as instructed. And expect any issues painting the door would be looked at and resolved.
While stripping the green door ready for repainting the door is found to have woodworm below the surface but the painter paints over it anyway. When the door is finished and looks awful its hardly prittis fault the door looks awful.
What are you talking about ?
Its a brand New Door
When i took over the ownership of the House
I bought NEW DOORS for My Own Security !
They needed Painting
Yeah but in this case it actually is a scabby old door (police national computer system) that has been given so many coats of paint over the years, has had so much post shoved through its letter box, doesn't even fit in the door frame properly any more. And the instruction was to remove every single trace of green paint from the door, without making the slightest chip in the purple, yellow, white, red, sky blue pink layers. And the tradesman mutters under his breath "how the fuck do i do that then", but the owner of the door shouts at him "just fucking do it because the no green paint law comes in at midnight and if the jobs not finished it's YOUR fault"."
Im a General Builder
No Job to Small .
So the Analogy of purple Paint has
been totally wasted on me
I much prefered my Football manager/player Sceanario
As im far less likely to bump into a Manager or a pro player
On here , who could shut me down
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"I’m sure she didn’t write the contract, & I’m sure she wouldn’t be aware of every detail in every contract that her department signs, that’s the job of the civil service, you know the ones that are in Whitehall all their working lives no matter who is in power, or the lawyers they employ to check things? Does anyone else remember yes minister or yes prime minister from the 80’s? Apparently according to both sides of the house for a comedy it was very realistic x"
Didnt she say she was here to shake up the
Civil Service ?
Obviously didnt shake it up well enough
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"After reading this thread I'm never getting ANY kind of work done on my house again . Ps I paint my own fucking doors before anyone says anything else about door painting. I blame shakin Stevens for all this green door painting shit anyways."
It was painted Purple But some wally said i wanted
it painted Green .
Id only ever paint My fornt door Red .
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