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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?"

As long as people associate identity with politics instead of competence, nothing much will change.

Judging by recent voting intention polls, the class system is very much alive and well in England and the masses are happy to turn a blind eye to Old Etonians earning millions whilst keeping the ordinary man in his place.

As a nation, we have never really taken inspiration from Oliver Twist - perhaps we should.

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By *ammskiMan  over a year ago

lytham st.annes

I think this happens in all politics,world wide

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By *ammskiMan  over a year ago

lytham st.annes

Doesn’t make it right though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think this happens in all politics,world wide "

Absolutely.

There seems to be some voter apathy. Whatever party it is, whatever country, people still vote for them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

What has the rest of the world got to do with it .

Isnt this supposed to be the prestigious society

That is the United Kingdom ?

The Auestion is a simple one ,

How far would you let things go ?

Is murder ok ?

Im not talking about wars , Im asking, if an MP killed to make sure they can scam the Electorate & public finances ,

Would that be to far ?

Or are we just not bothered what they vet upto ?

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?"

This happens in all parties but if Labour would you say anything?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?This happens in all parties but if Labour would you say anything?"

Absolutely, if Labour were in charge and were as self service and corrupt as the current government.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?This happens in all parties but if Labour would you say anything?"

The expenses “scandal” occurred under a Labour Government and the general public were suitably outraged over a few thousand pounds here and there.

This current level of corruption is on another level entirely and yet the cap doffers accept that Old Etonians are OK to grift whilst they suffer.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"What has the rest of the world got to do with it .

Isnt this supposed to be the prestigious society

That is the United Kingdom ?

The Auestion is a simple one ,

How far would you let things go ?

Is murder ok ?

Im not talking about wars , Im asking, if an MP killed to make sure they can scam the Electorate & public finances ,

Would that be to far ?

Or are we just not bothered what they vet upto ?

"

Yes it’s terrible

But some of us with a sense of persepective are talking about wars as well. Blair and Campbell should be in jail.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Agree to some extent regarding PPE etc....though there was a massive shortage world wide and was a case of get what you can from wherever it comes.

The latest 2 "scandals" are political point scoring from Starmer et al as they are way behind in polls on just about every measure.

Blair was giving away all sorts of PFI stuff to "Tony's Cronies" and was taking up positions with companies and lobbying like mad well within the 2 year window which the rules state.

Cameron out of office over 5 years before he started....no rules broken...no story here (other than maybe the rules need to be changed?).

Hancock and his sister and the NHS contract....?

1 The contract was awarded by the WELSH NHS. This was awarded by a LABOUR administration so kinda shot in the foot from Starmer.

2 Hancock and sister are shareholder...not directors/employees or anything with influence.

3 The contract was awarded in 2019. Hancock only bought shares last year.

You would think that, given his background, Starmer would check his facts before opening his mouth!

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth

Church enough mud some will stick,who cares about facts and truth these days, as for KS he is a barrister they rely on info from underlings so can make themselves look idiots if they dont check

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth

Chuck,blooming auto spell

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Agree to some extent regarding PPE etc....though there was a massive shortage world wide and was a case of get what you can from wherever it comes.

The latest 2 "scandals" are political point scoring from Starmer et al as they are way behind in polls on just about every measure.

Blair was giving away all sorts of PFI stuff to "Tony's Cronies" and was taking up positions with companies and lobbying like mad well within the 2 year window which the rules state.

Cameron out of office over 5 years before he started....no rules broken...no story here (other than maybe the rules need to be changed?).

Hancock and his sister and the NHS contract....?

1 The contract was awarded by the WELSH NHS. This was awarded by a LABOUR administration so kinda shot in the foot from Starmer.

2 Hancock and sister are shareholder...not directors/employees or anything with influence.

3 The contract was awarded in 2019. Hancock only bought shares last year.

You would think that, given his background, Starmer would check his facts before opening his mouth!"

Nick Hancock was gifted shares. He checked through the appropriate channels on possible conflict of interests, and satisfied all the criteria, before accepting the shares.

Its a non-story.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?This happens in all parties but if Labour would you say anything?"

https://youtu.be/gRNEX8Oq5Y4

Watch the link .

Name me one former ex Labour MP trying to get his hands on

£60 million quid of Public finances .

Just one will do

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?This happens in all parties but if Labour would you say anything?

Absolutely, if Labour were in charge and were as self service and corrupt as the current government."

https://youtu.be/gRNEX8Oq5Y4

Same question for you .

Name 1 ex labour politician whi tried/is trying to get his hands

On £60 million quids worth of public finance ?

Just 1

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Agree to some extent regarding PPE etc....though there was a massive shortage world wide and was a case of get what you can from wherever it comes.

The latest 2 "scandals" are political point scoring from Starmer et al as they are way behind in polls on just about every measure.

Blair was giving away all sorts of PFI stuff to "Tony's Cronies" and was taking up positions with companies and lobbying like mad well within the 2 year window which the rules state.

Cameron out of office over 5 years before he started....no rules broken...no story here (other than maybe the rules need to be changed?).

Hancock and his sister and the NHS contract....?

1 The contract was awarded by the WELSH NHS. This was awarded by a LABOUR administration so kinda shot in the foot from Starmer.

2 Hancock and sister are shareholder...not directors/employees or anything with influence.

3 The contract was awarded in 2019. Hancock only bought shares last year.

You would think that, given his background, Starmer would check his facts before opening his mouth!"

Did Blair ever try to get his hamds on £60 million quid of public finance like Just call me DAVE is doing ?

https://youtu.be/gRNEX8Oq5Y4

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"What has the rest of the world got to do with it .

Isnt this supposed to be the prestigious society

That is the United Kingdom ?

The Auestion is a simple one ,

How far would you let things go ?

Is murder ok ?

Im not talking about wars , Im asking, if an MP killed to make sure they can scam the Electorate & public finances ,

Would that be to far ?

Or are we just not bothered what they vet upto ?

Yes it’s terrible

But some of us with a sense of persepective are talking about wars as well. Blair and Campbell should be in jail. "

A bloke who admits to riding around on a Kiddies bike talking about Jail .

Oh the Irony !!

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By *eparrain1Man  over a year ago

Stone


"Agree to some extent regarding PPE etc....though there was a massive shortage world wide and was a case of get what you can from wherever it comes.

The latest 2 "scandals" are political point scoring from Starmer et al as they are way behind in polls on just about every measure.

Great thread

I am not surprised that the ‘Daily Bile’ brigade is after you.. they always resort to point scoring and delusional diatribes..

Blair was giving away all sorts of PFI stuff to "Tony's Cronies" and was taking up positions with companies and lobbying like mad well within the 2 year window which the rules state.

Cameron out of office over 5 years before he started....no rules broken...no story here (other than maybe the rules need to be changed?).

Hancock and his sister and the NHS contract....?

1 The contract was awarded by the WELSH NHS. This was awarded by a LABOUR administration so kinda shot in the foot from Starmer.

2 Hancock and sister are shareholder...not directors/employees or anything with influence.

3 The contract was awarded in 2019. Hancock only bought shares last year.

You would think that, given his background, Starmer would check his facts before opening his mouth!

Did Blair ever try to get his hamds on £60 million quid of public finance like Just call me DAVE is doing ?

https://youtu.be/gRNEX8Oq5Y4

"

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes

Although its true that its quite common here and abroad for these things to happen its still wrong in my view. The rules need urgent review to make this sort of thing either impossible or far too costly for those that do it when caught

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By *isandhers691127Couple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"What has the rest of the world got to do with it .

Isnt this supposed to be the prestigious society

That is the United Kingdom ?

The Auestion is a simple one ,

How far would you let things go ?

Is murder ok ?

Im not talking about wars , Im asking, if an MP killed to make sure they can scam the Electorate & public finances ,

Would that be to far ?

Or are we just not bothered what they vet upto ?

Yes it’s terrible

But some of us with a sense of persepective are talking about wars as well. Blair and Campbell should be in jail. "

Oh I see you don't stand by your gentleman's agreement of no whataboutery.

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By *loughing the landMan  over a year ago

Cambridge


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?"

. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company "

So you are Happy that your leaders are skanking everyone then ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company "

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate.

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke.

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke.


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?"

Anderson (Labour Liverpool) and his brother . . . .

No Party is immune.

Choose your story de jour by excluding those you do like against those you don't.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the conservative government .... the best government money can buy

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By *loughing the landMan  over a year ago

Cambridge


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate."

.Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate. .Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about. "

More than £19 billion of Covid related contracts plus the billions wasted on Serco Test and Trace would suggest that poster above is recycling false information. Neither the £19 billion of mainly PPE contracts, nor Test and Trace was but through any kind of competitive and transparent process.

The poster above is not bothered though. He appreciates that as a mere pleb like the rest of us, we are happy for Old Etonians and the aristocracy to make millions from dodgy dealings. He, and we m, know our place and what is good for them would never be allowed for us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate. .Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about. "

Yeah, so apathy has transitioned into active defence of the government being self servicing.

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By *hybloke67Man  over a year ago

ROMFORD


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate. .Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about.

More than £19 billion of Covid related contracts plus the billions wasted on Serco Test and Trace would suggest that poster above is recycling false information. Neither the £19 billion of mainly PPE contracts, nor Test and Trace was but through any kind of competitive and transparent process.

The poster above is not bothered though. He appreciates that as a mere pleb like the rest of us, we are happy for Old Etonians and the aristocracy to make millions from dodgy dealings. He, and we m, know our place and what is good for them would never be allowed for us."

Are you suggesting Serco has received £19 Billion?

Also are you saying testing is a waste of time?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate. .Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about.

More than £19 billion of Covid related contracts plus the billions wasted on Serco Test and Trace would suggest that poster above is recycling false information. Neither the £19 billion of mainly PPE contracts, nor Test and Trace was but through any kind of competitive and transparent process.

The poster above is not bothered though. He appreciates that as a mere pleb like the rest of us, we are happy for Old Etonians and the aristocracy to make millions from dodgy dealings. He, and we m, know our place and what is good for them would never be allowed for us."

Not sure on total figures until this point but up to the end of Oct last year Full Fact tells us the Serco only had contracts worth £277m.

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By *loughing the landMan  over a year ago

Cambridge


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate. .Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about.

More than £19 billion of Covid related contracts plus the billions wasted on Serco Test and Trace would suggest that poster above is recycling false information. Neither the £19 billion of mainly PPE contracts, nor Test and Trace was but through any kind of competitive and transparent process.

The poster above is not bothered though. He appreciates that as a mere pleb like the rest of us, we are happy for Old Etonians and the aristocracy to make millions from dodgy dealings. He, and we m, know our place and what is good for them would never be allowed for us."

. Hello. The contracts referred to were secured in a time of national crisis and were required urgently. No rational organisation could wait three months to go through the normal authorisation process when peoples lives were at risk. It would be interesting to see what evidence there is ( if any ) to back up the statement that money was wasted on track and trace. A recent newspaper article with a worked example illustrated how highly efficient the system was. It looks like Serco and the government learned from the initial teething problems. I have never worked on a system implementation in my entire life that has gone according to plan . In this case the circumstances of the implementation were exceptional and the end result was achieved after encountering a few teething problems.

Would residents of the UK preferred that people died while we searched for better value for money contracts?.

The end result is that we have a world leading vaccination programme. Most people will overlook a few mistakes along the way in a time of crisis.

Saving lives takes preference to rigorous adherence to admin. procedures.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth

If all these amounts are fraud or corruption and plainly are in the public domain why havent the police arrested anyone yet ? If anyone has broken the law chuck the book at them

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate. .Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about.

More than £19 billion of Covid related contracts plus the billions wasted on Serco Test and Trace would suggest that poster above is recycling false information. Neither the £19 billion of mainly PPE contracts, nor Test and Trace was but through any kind of competitive and transparent process.

The poster above is not bothered though. He appreciates that as a mere pleb like the rest of us, we are happy for Old Etonians and the aristocracy to make millions from dodgy dealings. He, and we m, know our place and what is good for them would never be allowed for us.. Hello. The contracts referred to were secured in a time of national crisis and were required urgently. No rational organisation could wait three months to go through the normal authorisation process when peoples lives were at risk. It would be interesting to see what evidence there is ( if any ) to back up the statement that money was wasted on track and trace. A recent newspaper article with a worked example illustrated how highly efficient the system was. It looks like Serco and the government learned from the initial teething problems. I have never worked on a system implementation in my entire life that has gone according to plan . In this case the circumstances of the implementation were exceptional and the end result was achieved after encountering a few teething problems.

Would residents of the UK preferred that people died while we searched for better value for money contracts?.

The end result is that we have a world leading vaccination programme. Most people will overlook a few mistakes along the way in a time of crisis.

Saving lives takes preference to rigorous adherence to admin. procedures. "

Is that why the uk govt bought out of date ppe from turkey &

Refused all help from british companies willing to make as much as they could at a moments notice with no up front costs to the government ?

Real People willing to do everything they cod to help there fellow citizens only to be refused by the tory party

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If all these amounts are fraud or corruption and plainly are in the public domain why havent the police arrested anyone yet ? If anyone has broken the law chuck the book at them "

Didnt Cummings break lockdown law 1st ?

Oy sorry there was small print that nobody else got to see .

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?. It is hardly corruption unless money changes hands and the transactions are not transparent . Whether we like it or not , these scenarios happy throughout the world and even within trade unions . In many cases jobs for dockers and tube drivers were handed out based on family connections and influence , not on merit . Likewise Unite union and the influence with the Flanagan Construction company

Sadly, I think your apathy is shared by a large proportion of the electorate. .Hello. At best all friendship / connections will do is help you to climb the first rung of the ladder. Any government payments have to go through a rigorous authorisation process . It would be extremely difficult , if not impossible to circumvent all these stages. You need to get a purchase order approved, the service provided receipted ,and for the payment to be authorised all parameters must match . At the initial tendering stage you will also be competing against a number of other organisations.

With all these controls in place , I do not think that we have too much to worry about.

More than £19 billion of Covid related contracts plus the billions wasted on Serco Test and Trace would suggest that poster above is recycling false information. Neither the £19 billion of mainly PPE contracts, nor Test and Trace was but through any kind of competitive and transparent process.

The poster above is not bothered though. He appreciates that as a mere pleb like the rest of us, we are happy for Old Etonians and the aristocracy to make millions from dodgy dealings. He, and we m, know our place and what is good for them would never be allowed for us.

Are you suggesting Serco has received £19 Billion?

Also are you saying testing is a waste of time?"

Reading the post would be helpful.

Read,

Consider,

Pause,

Respond.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"If all these amounts are fraud or corruption and plainly are in the public domain why havent the police arrested anyone yet ? If anyone has broken the law chuck the book at them "

There will be an enquiry in due courses.

If the (current version of the) Conservatives are in Government at the time, the enquiry will actually be a cover up. If a reasonable Government is in power, we might just see people being held to account.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?This happens in all parties but if Labour would you say anything?

https://youtu.be/gRNEX8Oq5Y4

Watch the link .

Name me one former ex Labour MP trying to get his hands on

£60 million quid of Public finances .

Just one will do

"

Blair and his cronies....more like £600 billion and change in PFI funding which NGS and Schools are still spending huge chunks of their budget on....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

NHS**

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the Tory government install one of their close chums as chair of the 7th corruption inquiry since 2010. there will clearly be a need for an 8th inquiry because of this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As another story breaks ,

Is Corruption acceptable on any

Scale now .

Bodge shagging the yank for 4 years

Then gives her public money .

Hancock & his sister

Jenrick & his dodgy dealing with the builders . Grant Schapps , or is he

Michael Green still ?

Countless PPE scandal .

So just how far are you prepared to accept cronyism ( corruption ) before you say,

Oh thats a bit to much ?This happens in all parties but if Labour would you say anything?

https://youtu.be/gRNEX8Oq5Y4

Watch the link .

Name me one former ex Labour MP trying to get his hands on

£60 million quid of Public finances .

Just one will do

Blair and his cronies....more like £600 billion and change in PFI funding which NGS and Schools are still spending huge chunks of their budget on...."

A Link of said story, to provide proof please.

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By *andy 1Couple  over a year ago

northeast


"Agree to some extent regarding PPE etc....though there was a massive shortage world wide and was a case of get what you can from wherever it comes.

The latest 2 "scandals" are political point scoring from Starmer et al as they are way behind in polls on just about every measure.

Blair was giving away all sorts of PFI stuff to "Tony's Cronies" and was taking up positions with companies and lobbying like mad well within the 2 year window which the rules state.

Cameron out of office over 5 years before he started....no rules broken...no story here (other than maybe the rules need to be changed?).

Hancock and his sister and the NHS contract....?

1 The contract was awarded by the WELSH NHS. This was awarded by a LABOUR administration so kinda shot in the foot from Starmer.

2 Hancock and sister are shareholder...not directors/employees or anything with influence.

3 The contract was awarded in 2019. Hancock only bought shares last year.

You would think that, given his background, Starmer would check his facts before opening his mouth!"

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By *mwirralMan  over a year ago

wirral

Basically the tories are in because there was no credible opposition at the time of the election, I thought starmer may provide a better opposition but to be honest he has been rubbish, and Labour are still not providing a credible opposition

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Basically the tories are in because there was no credible opposition at the time of the election, I thought starmer may provide a better opposition but to be honest he has been rubbish, and Labour are still not providing a credible opposition "

The upcoming elections should provide an opportunity for Labour to make some gains especially with what's been revealed about Cameron ect . These sort of elections are often used as a protest vote by voters and a building block by opposition parties

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Basically the tories are in because there was no credible opposition at the time of the election, I thought starmer may provide a better opposition but to be honest he has been rubbish, and Labour are still not providing a credible opposition

The upcoming elections should provide an opportunity for Labour to make some gains especially with what's been revealed about Cameron ect . These sort of elections are often used as a protest vote by voters and a building block by opposition parties"

The Camaron business is discusting but will not effect any voting as people are not concerned with this.

The BBC being anti Tory is making a big issue of this but it is like the EU there anti Tory bias seems to have little effect on voting.

The reason is that people realise that all polititions are the same in all parties.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Basically the tories are in because there was no credible opposition at the time of the election, I thought starmer may provide a better opposition but to be honest he has been rubbish, and Labour are still not providing a credible opposition

The upcoming elections should provide an opportunity for Labour to make some gains especially with what's been revealed about Cameron ect . These sort of elections are often used as a protest vote by voters and a building block by opposition partiesThe Camaron business is discusting but will not effect any voting as people are not concerned with this.

The BBC being anti Tory is making a big issue of this but it is like the EU there anti Tory bias seems to have little effect on voting.

The reason is that people realise that all polititions are the same in all parties."

Tony Benn wasn't. Probably the last MP to have any integrity whatsoever. I would never have voted for him but had massive respect....shame his son isn't of the same cloth.

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