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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57518980
The UK has asked the EU to extend a grace period for chilled meats until the end of September.
Exports of chilled meats from GB to NI are due to be banned at the end of June under the terms of the NI Protocol.
The Protocol is the part of the Brexit deal which keeps NI in the EU single market for goods.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Im hoping this one annoys Boat boy the most
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Why are you trying to annoy people on here? It is supposed to be a forum for discussions and this childish behaviour is exactly the reason i spend so little time on here, grow up. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Im hoping this one annoys Boat boy the most
Why are you trying to annoy people on here? It is supposed to be a forum for discussions and this childish behaviour is exactly the reason i spend so little time on here, grow up. "
I have to agree. Scattergun sarcasm and insults, coupled with childish name-calling, lends nothing to sensible debate.
The enjoyment is waning, and thats from someone who has been here far too many years! |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Im hoping this one annoys Boat boy the most
Why are you trying to annoy people on here? It is supposed to be a forum for discussions and this childish behaviour is exactly the reason i spend so little time on here, grow up.
I have to agree. Scattergun sarcasm and insults, coupled with childish name-calling, lends nothing to sensible debate.
The enjoyment is waning, and thats from someone who has been here far too many years! "
Its what people with empty lives do |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You guys have all been here long enough to know that it's unusual for any real debate to be had round here anymore.
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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I don’t care if Boris is annoyed and he probably won’t be as he doesn’t give a stuff.
The manufacturers and retailers however have every right to be annoyed.
Boris’ deal yet again shown to not be fit for purpose. He threatened during questions this week to take unilateral action. The guy is a nightmare. He negotiated this and signed up for it and now can’t run backwards fast enough. He blames EU intransigence yet he agreed to the deal as it was written!!!
Interesting how Cummings mentioned Boris wants to quit after the next election to earn some money and have fun.
I’m sure those businesses which are struggling due to his deal are delighted for him.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
There is a radical way around the NI problem.
Make everything imported into Ireland check free, and then make the checks outward, when products enter the EU.
This is just the inverse of whats happening at the moment, and as the EU are so keen on checks, then give the problem to them. After all, there's no sectarianism in Rotterdam or Antwerp.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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One in five checks on the whole of the eu boarders are made in NI if that doesn't tell you something about the eu you must be blind. How much stuff comes into the eu through Rotterdam for instance from outside the eu let alone the rest of the eu ? and yet they concentrate their checks on NI. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"There is a radical way around the NI problem.
Make everything imported into Ireland check free, and then make the checks outward, when products enter the EU.
This is just the inverse of whats happening at the moment, and as the EU are so keen on checks, then give the problem to them. After all, there's no sectarianism in Rotterdam or Antwerp.
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Interesting concept but can’t see the republic being too keen. They didn’t vote for more red tape we did! Anyway I thought Brexit was about taking control of our borders with the EU, not the other way around ? Interesting how it’s worked out though!! “There will be no border between northern Ireland and the mainland.’ I can her him ringing that out loudly!! Yet another cast iron promise made from paper mache!! Or was he just basically lying ? |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"One in five checks on the whole of the eu boarders are made in NI if that doesn't tell you something about the eu you must be blind. How much stuff comes into the eu through Rotterdam for instance from outside the eu let alone the rest of the eu ? and yet they concentrate their checks on NI. "
Most of what goes through Rotterdam is not for the Netherlands . It travels under T1 unless cleared in NL . The goods are checked by other country’s customs. The statistics don’t show the picture clearly . It’s not a simple comparison |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
A trusted trader should suffice, eg sainsbury,s and asda have no outlets in the republic so as long as they have a sticker on the packaging it should not be a problem but of course thats too simple and does not suit the eu mandate.
FFs you cant even take a guide dog to NI without the paperwork now even though it has been pointed out to then that the uk has not had one case of rabies since 1922 which was imported from europe.  |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"There is a radical way around the NI problem.
Make everything imported into Ireland check free, and then make the checks outward, when products enter the EU.
This is just the inverse of whats happening at the moment, and as the EU are so keen on checks, then give the problem to them. After all, there's no sectarianism in Rotterdam or Antwerp.
Interesting concept but can’t see the republic being too keen. They didn’t vote for more red tape we did! Anyway I thought Brexit was about taking control of our borders with the EU, not the other way around ? Interesting how it’s worked out though!! “There will be no border between northern Ireland and the mainland.’ I can her him ringing that out loudly!! Yet another cast iron promise made from paper mache!! Or was he just basically lying ? "
Yes, the problem is the bad agreement drawn up by politicians, instead of business!
But we are in the here and now. Of course, Eire won't be happy but would they be happy if we now said "no deal", and went to WTO? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"One in five checks on the whole of the eu boarders are made in NI if that doesn't tell you something about the eu you must be blind. How much stuff comes into the eu through Rotterdam for instance from outside the eu let alone the rest of the eu ? and yet they concentrate their checks on NI.
Most of what goes through Rotterdam is not for the Netherlands . It travels under T1 unless cleared in NL . The goods are checked by other country’s customs. The statistics don’t show the picture clearly . It’s not a simple comparison "
I was using that as an example it does not retract from the fact that one in five checks of imports to the whole of the eu are at this moment taking place in NI.Doesnt that tell you anything? |
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My memory must be failing me as I'm sure I remember a few months ago,alex,the daily mail (we did it)and its sheep like followers celebrating what a great deal it was and lording it over the sceptics
In a completely shocking development it turns out this isnt the case,however never fear,its still all the eus fault.
Brilliant. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"My memory must be failing me as I'm sure I remember a few months ago,alex,the daily mail (we did it)and its sheep like followers celebrating what a great deal it was and lording it over the sceptics
In a completely shocking development it turns out this isnt the case,however never fear,its still all the eus fault.
Brilliant."
Tell me this lionel without all your political bias why would the eu checks be 1 in 5 of all imports to the eu be in NI? bearing in mind no food standard rules have changed in the last 6 months and are exactly the same as before.
Just answer the question i dont want any whataboutery why do you think that is? |
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57518980
The UK has asked the EU to extend a grace period for chilled meats until the end of September.
Exports of chilled meats from GB to NI are due to be banned at the end of June under the terms of the NI Protocol.
The Protocol is the part of the Brexit deal which keeps NI in the EU single market for goods.
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but you said begs the eu wtf |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"A trusted trader should suffice, eg sainsbury,s and asda have no outlets in the republic so as long as they have a sticker on the packaging it should not be a problem but of course thats too simple and does not suit the eu mandate.
FFs you cant even take a guide dog to NI without the paperwork now even though it has been pointed out to then that the uk has not had one case of rabies since 1922 which was imported from europe. "
Each country runs their own checks
Speak to Ireland not the EU.
We have issues with polish customs checking absolutely everything. Certain German routes waved past other stop and check.
We wanted all this shit remember rather than push back on federalism while a member. Farage could have done more to change the EU rather than just taking the money and saying we need to leave. No plan just bigoted rhetoric. |
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"A trusted trader should suffice, eg sainsbury,s and asda have no outlets in the republic so as long as they have a sticker on the packaging it should not be a problem but of course thats too simple and does not suit the eu mandate.
FFs you cant even take a guide dog to NI without the paperwork now even though it has been pointed out to then that the uk has not had one case of rabies since 1922 which was imported from europe.
Each country runs their own checks
Speak to Ireland not the EU.
We have issues with polish customs checking absolutely everything. Certain German routes waved past other stop and check.
We wanted all this shit remember rather than push back on federalism while a member. Farage could have done more to change the EU rather than just taking the money and saying we need to leave. No plan just bigoted rhetoric. "
So you're just saying the countries run by Brussels are a shambles of non cooperation and jobsworths.
Thank God we're out |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"A trusted trader should suffice, eg sainsbury,s and asda have no outlets in the republic so as long as they have a sticker on the packaging it should not be a problem but of course thats too simple and does not suit the eu mandate.
FFs you cant even take a guide dog to NI without the paperwork now even though it has been pointed out to then that the uk has not had one case of rabies since 1922 which was imported from europe.
Each country runs their own checks
Speak to Ireland not the EU.
We have issues with polish customs checking absolutely everything. Certain German routes waved past other stop and check.
We wanted all this shit remember rather than push back on federalism while a member. Farage could have done more to change the EU rather than just taking the money and saying we need to leave. No plan just bigoted rhetoric. "
I dont think its Ireland doing the checks in NI its the eu if it was lord frost would be talking to them instead and it would be sorted as Ireland wants it sorted too they have the most to lose if they go to WTO rules. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
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Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about? |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"A trusted trader should suffice, eg sainsbury,s and asda have no outlets in the republic so as long as they have a sticker on the packaging it should not be a problem but of course thats too simple and does not suit the eu mandate.
FFs you cant even take a guide dog to NI without the paperwork now even though it has been pointed out to then that the uk has not had one case of rabies since 1922 which was imported from europe.
Each country runs their own checks
Speak to Ireland not the EU.
We have issues with polish customs checking absolutely everything. Certain German routes waved past other stop and check.
We wanted all this shit remember rather than push back on federalism while a member. Farage could have done more to change the EU rather than just taking the money and saying we need to leave. No plan just bigoted rhetoric.
So you're just saying the countries run by Brussels are a shambles of non cooperation and jobsworths.
Thank God we're out "
Each country runs its own border checks nothing to do with Brussels running anything.
Twist it how you like Chris you support this mess 100% so feel free to bathe in that glory of success. Erm didn’t leavers claim we’d check the borders and yet here we are six months later with no border checks?? So even without the EU in control as you put it we can’t keep up with our European friends as we’re not ready. Are we winning in the race for being incompetent there?? Looks like it to me. Shambolic is a good word to describe this mess. No border controls until at least 2022. Winner winner TV dinner !! 
Still excited to find out where that £350m is being spent!! |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?"
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
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so back on track  so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks? |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks? "
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. "
The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens."
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens.
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! "
Bery well put .
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens.
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! "
Nothing like a netflix subscription as you well know and trade with the eu will not stop either however much to try to scaremonger just like all the jobs going to be lost by the new ferry routes that you predicted along with countless other things.Its to do with respecting the GF agreement which is a unique situation and relies on goodwill from both sides.I was happy to see that macron was sent a copy so he can swat up on it. |
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"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens.
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! Nothing like a netflix subscription as you well know and trade with the eu will not stop either however much to try to scaremonger just like all the jobs going to be lost by the new ferry routes that you predicted along with countless other things.Its to do with respecting the GF agreement which is a unique situation and relies on goodwill from both sides.I was happy to see that macron was sent a copy so he can swat up on it."
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens.
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! Nothing like a netflix subscription as you well know and trade with the eu will not stop either however much to try to scaremonger just like all the jobs going to be lost by the new ferry routes that you predicted along with countless other things.Its to do with respecting the GF agreement which is a unique situation and relies on goodwill from both sides.I was happy to see that macron was sent a copy so he can swat up on it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1405532039831425033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1405532039831425033%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
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Errr you were saying ?"
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens.
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! Nothing like a netflix subscription as you well know and trade with the eu will not stop either however much to try to scaremonger just like all the jobs going to be lost by the new ferry routes that you predicted along with countless other things.Its to do with respecting the GF agreement which is a unique situation and relies on goodwill from both sides.I was happy to see that macron was sent a copy so he can swat up on it."
Trade probably won’t stop I agree with you but Boris threatening this is just bollocks and he knows it!
The cost to export to Ireland is going up over and over again due Brexit costs and to a shortage of Irish trucks going home through the U.K. .
It’s affecting trade . Look up the details in trade magazines if you don’t believe me. I don’t care if you believe me or not.
The trailer operators shipping unaccompanied out of the U.K. to the continent are declining new routes . The lack of self drive traffic and worsening lack of drivers is causing problems at ports like Immingham and Felixstowe. Our major carriers are struggling to cope with existing work. They are not interested in delays to Ireland so don’t want that work either. They need the trucks moving not waiting.
Boris has to sort this but I don’t see how he can.
The customs Union was the only choice that worked but he dismissed that.
Now being pragmatic on that would have been a better approach instead he chose a belligerent attitude which has caused a total fuck up.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens.
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! Nothing like a netflix subscription as you well know and trade with the eu will not stop either however much to try to scaremonger just like all the jobs going to be lost by the new ferry routes that you predicted along with countless other things.Its to do with respecting the GF agreement which is a unique situation and relies on goodwill from both sides.I was happy to see that macron was sent a copy so he can swat up on it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1405532039831425033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1405532039831425033%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
https://www.ft.com/content/e0663ada-b8e8-40bf-aa85-da518712cfa8?segmentID=635a35f9-12b4-dbf5-9fe6-6b8e6ffb143e
Errr you were saying ?What has that to do with the NI boarder? "
Its to do with The uks boarder with the EU .
The UK no longer being in the EU
Jobs being cut because of the Brexit bonus
Scaremongering i think you said .
Brexit isnt just about the Lack of sausages
In the 6 counties .
Its about far far more than that . |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Read a report in The Grocer today and we can start expecting items to be missing off shelves due to manufacturers cutting back on food lines. There is a chronic shortage of Labour in the food harvesting, processing and logistics industry according to their contributors. .
Major meat processor mentions a 10% shortage of staff. Deliveries are being cancelled . Due to the holiday season coming it’s going to get worse.
English jobs for English workers ?? Well the jobs are there where are the workers??
The visa restrictions are putting foreign workers off .
It’s all going swimmingly. Oh wait that’s the flood of immigrants since we can’t man the borders properly due to staff shortages.
Has any of that any relevance at all to the NI protocol which we are talking about?
Export and import of “chilled meats” mentioned in OP, into and out of the EU. The food production companies are being hit by both the protocol and the new regulators. Logistics will lose patience soon and hike up prices again or just avoid NI .
Manufacturers will limit supply to sustainable viable routes. If they have to chose then why bother with NI .
Enough relevance for you??
so back on track so are you still taking the stance that its not the eu and its Ireland doing all these un necessary checks?
I’m dating the rules are to enforce random checks.
The U.K. have given up mostly as no staff.
The Republic are free to do as many or as few as they like just like us.
The rules once protected us from dodgy food so now we complain that it protects the members of the EU.
The can stop every truck if they want or wave all through. It’s their choice. ( not sure of legal ruling on this numbers to check if I’m honest)
We are finding with our shipments each country has variations.
Northern Spain happy days move on. Southern Spain ( we hate you fucking Brits) stop and wait. The uk are taking a pragmatic view, nothing has changed as yet all, the rules are still the same so why would they just to disrupt things unlike the eu who im sure some still think like macron and if they make it hard enough the uk "will be begging to rejoin after a year".Once they get their head around that wont happen im sure they will start thinking of the damage they are doing to their citizens.
So if you cancel your Netflix subscription but you want to watch films will your argument be that Netflix should be more pragmatic and let you watch some films!!
Boris signed us up for this and it’s a contract which we accepted being pragmatic is just irrelevant . We either agreed the process and deal or we didn’t it’s not a vague agreement open to interpretation it’s written and it what we wanted isn’t it!
Wanting to be pragmatic on a problem
Is fine but this is an international agreement which Boris signed. We can’t be picky and say actually I want you to be pragmatic as I don’t like that bit!!
It’s a deal which we aren’t abiding by.
We rely on imports and international trade with the EU . Over 40% of our exports.
If trade is stopped we lose 40% each country in the EU will lose a fraction of that . I know who will give in first !! Nothing like a netflix subscription as you well know and trade with the eu will not stop either however much to try to scaremonger just like all the jobs going to be lost by the new ferry routes that you predicted along with countless other things.Its to do with respecting the GF agreement which is a unique situation and relies on goodwill from both sides.I was happy to see that macron was sent a copy so he can swat up on it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1405532039831425033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1405532039831425033%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
https://www.ft.com/content/e0663ada-b8e8-40bf-aa85-da518712cfa8?segmentID=635a35f9-12b4-dbf5-9fe6-6b8e6ffb143e
Errr you were saying ?What has that to do with the NI boarder?
Its to do with The uks boarder with the EU .
The UK no longer being in the EU
Jobs being cut because of the Brexit bonus
Scaremongering i think you said .
Brexit isnt just about the Lack of sausages
In the 6 counties .
Its about far far more than that ."
Its either not enough workers one minute and now jobs being cut which is it? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57518980
The UK has asked the EU to extend a grace period for chilled meats until the end of September.
Exports of chilled meats from GB to NI are due to be banned at the end of June under the terms of the NI Protocol.
The Protocol is the part of the Brexit deal which keeps NI in the EU single market for goods.
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Well it’s not like they weren’t warned about a border down the Irish Sea…. Oh.. wait… they were! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57518980
The UK has asked the EU to extend a grace period for chilled meats until the end of September.
Exports of chilled meats from GB to NI are due to be banned at the end of June under the terms of the NI Protocol.
The Protocol is the part of the Brexit deal which keeps NI in the EU single market for goods.
Well it’s not like they weren’t warned about a border down the Irish Sea…. Oh.. wait… they were! "
Just the once was it ?
Or rather a few times ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A trusted trader should suffice, eg sainsbury,s and asda have no outlets in the republic so as long as they have a sticker on the packaging it should not be a problem but of course thats too simple and does not suit the eu mandate.
FFs you cant even take a guide dog to NI without the paperwork now even though it has been pointed out to then that the uk has not had one case of rabies since 1922 which was imported from europe.
Each country runs their own checks
Speak to Ireland not the EU.
We have issues with polish customs checking absolutely everything. Certain German routes waved past other stop and check.
We wanted all this shit remember rather than push back on federalism while a member. Farage could have done more to change the EU rather than just taking the money and saying we need to leave. No plan just bigoted rhetoric. I dont think its Ireland doing the checks in NI its the eu if it was lord frost would be talking to them instead and it would be sorted as Ireland wants it sorted too they have the most to lose if they go to WTO rules."
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