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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
watching the news tonight which will be the 1st to have a run on? quality street, bog rolls again or turkeys. i wonder which other companies will be announcing shortages to sell more stuff.  |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
Cookstown |
"watching the news tonight which will be the 1st to have a run on? quality street, bog rolls again or turkeys. i wonder which other companies will be announcing shortages to sell more stuff.
David Beckham says he can't get the ingredients for his aftershave  "
Someone's taken the piss  |
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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago
Gloucestershire |
"watching the news tonight which will be the 1st to have a run on? quality street, bog rolls again or turkeys. i wonder which other companies will be announcing shortages to sell more stuff. "
If we had a responsible government which had the foresight to expect shortages, then it would have been easily avoidable, instead we lurch from crisis to crisis, and the economy suffers for it, and to make things worse a regressive tax which will be coming in will make us worse off which will then stall the recovery, they are not capable to meet our current and future situations, we require responsible leadership and this government currently isn’t up to the job. Just slogans not actions. |
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"The British turkey shortage was already predicted in the media, so some of yous might have to settle with one imported from the EU..."
Already bought my Turkey. I’m well ahead of the game. I’ve already plucked & stuffed it, on the big day all I have to do is kill it & cook it.
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"The British turkey shortage was already predicted in the media, so some of yous might have to settle with one imported from the EU...
Already bought my Turkey. I’m well ahead of the game. I’ve already plucked & stuffed it, on the big day all I have to do is kill it & cook it.
Sprouts are boiling away also."
Yep eaten mine, people need to get creative |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"The British turkey shortage was already predicted in the media, so some of yous might have to settle with one imported from the EU...
Already bought my Turkey. I’m well ahead of the game. I’ve already plucked & stuffed it, on the big day all I have to do is kill it & cook it.
Sprouts are boiling away also."
I do hope you haven’t stuffed and plucked it before killing it 
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"The British turkey shortage was already predicted in the media, so some of yous might have to settle with one imported from the EU..."
blurgh turkey not eaten that dry bird in years beef boiled bacon or chicken on offer at ours at christmas every year
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"The British turkey shortage was already predicted in the media, so some of yous might have to settle with one imported from the EU...blurgh turkey not eaten that dry bird in years beef boiled bacon or chicken on offer at ours at christmas every year"
Same here I like to change it up a bit rather than doing Turkey  |
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By *mmMandyTV/TS
over a year ago
Southampton |
I'll be telling the kids there's a shortage of EU vets to issue animal health certificates, so Santa couldn't bring his reindeer over the border.
Boris will recognise this as having escalated to a crisis when he gets back of his hols and issue 6 month visas to EU vets
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
It’s ok Grant Shapps is now letting foreign hauliers work their trucks in the U.K. for as long as they like. So our hauliers pay to stand their trucks idle and foreign hauliers take the cash and potential long term customers.
You can’t make this incompetence up. Is there literally anyone in charge who has a clue what they are doing?
Yes it will maybe help the supermarkets in the short term.. but hurt Uk hauliers even more. Brilliant just brilliant.
Just yet more smoke up everyones arse to cover up the core problems. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"It’s ok Grant Shapps is now letting foreign hauliers work their trucks in the U.K. for as long as they like. So our hauliers pay to stand their trucks idle and foreign hauliers take the cash and potential long term customers.
You can’t make this incompetence up. Is there literally anyone in charge who has a clue what they are doing?
Yes it will maybe help the supermarkets in the short term.. but hurt Uk hauliers even more. Brilliant just brilliant.
Just yet more smoke up everyones arse to cover up the core problems. "
Solution? |
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"The British turkey shortage was already predicted in the media, so some of yous might have to settle with one imported from the EU...
Already bought my Turkey. I’m well ahead of the game. I’ve already plucked & stuffed it, on the big day all I have to do is kill it & cook it.
Sprouts are boiling away also."
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"It’s ok Grant Shapps is now letting foreign hauliers work their trucks in the U.K. for as long as they like. So our hauliers pay to stand their trucks idle and foreign hauliers take the cash and potential long term customers.
You can’t make this incompetence up. Is there literally anyone in charge who has a clue what they are doing?
Yes it will maybe help the supermarkets in the short term.. but hurt Uk hauliers even more. Brilliant just brilliant.
Just yet more smoke up everyones arse to cover up the core problems.
Solution? "
Firstly no time limit on visas to attract more European drivers in the next few years. Maybe too late now.
Secondly suspend the need for the driver COC which will get a few older guys to help temporarily.
Then while they try to up the training programmes actually attack the real cause of the driver shortage and it’s not wages it’s how terrible the job is.
The actually driving is the easy bit . The traffic congestion is a pain but that’s years and years of under investment in our roads. Every transport minister stays for max two years as it’s not considered important.
Critical to drivers is how they are treated by industry and the government .
They have no provision designed in when industrial estates are built. No parking, No showers.
No showers or toilets at industrial premises. Wait until the morning driver!!! Where exactly?
Motorways service’s not secure . Not enough parking , law says he must stop!!! disgusting facilities and very few showers.
Can’t plan a stop accurately due to traffic congestion,
Absolutely no provision for trucks away from motorways on A and B roads.
New roads built with narrow lay byes which is as safe as stopping on a hard shoulder . No toilets no showers.
Few off road lay byes, no showers no toilets.
Food provision nationally mostly burgers and chips. Take healthy food , good idea but drivers who plan to be home don’t buy food to throw away. Should they stock up for a week? They may be back home every day that week? Or do they just waste money on some basic healthy stuff and guess they may need it?
Driver is 10 mins late at a DC due to traffic . Go to the back of the queue and wait 5 hours . He’s not getting home that night.
Oh and his times up but the nearest shop is five miles away so where does he wash and eat?
Wet wipes and a Mars bar for you son.
There are a few good truck stops but only a tiny fraction of what’s needed.
They struggle to be economic due to the amount of land needed. There will never be enough.
Councils should be forced to make provision in every town over 10k people for at least parking and toilet facilities.
The overall point is the drivers need much better treatment and support. They are never considered in any developments or new roads.
They leave because it’s getting worse and not worth the hassle.
Next time you take a journey on an A road, imagine you have 15 mins left to find somewhere to park a 16.5mtr truck. It has to be safe as that cargo is valuable and you need to sleep. Hopefully you can find food and a shower. It’s a lot harder than you think.
They can’t pull in to a lot of petrol stations that cars can to get food. Not enough parking next to that SPAR to get a salad .
The driver has to stop now because if he doesn’t he’s going to be fined!
I drove one of my own trucks many years ago so have first hand knowledge of how shit it was then and it’s ten times worse now.
It will take years to fix. Higher wages will help recruit but driver retention in the industry, that’s the issue.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"It’s ok Grant Shapps is now letting foreign hauliers work their trucks in the U.K. for as long as they like. So our hauliers pay to stand their trucks idle and foreign hauliers take the cash and potential long term customers.
You can’t make this incompetence up. Is there literally anyone in charge who has a clue what they are doing?
Yes it will maybe help the supermarkets in the short term.. but hurt Uk hauliers even more. Brilliant just brilliant.
Just yet more smoke up everyones arse to cover up the core problems. "
As the Dutch transport representative said on the news today it will not make any difference as there is a shortage of drivers all over Europe. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"It’s ok Grant Shapps is now letting foreign hauliers work their trucks in the U.K. for as long as they like. So our hauliers pay to stand their trucks idle and foreign hauliers take the cash and potential long term customers.
You can’t make this incompetence up. Is there literally anyone in charge who has a clue what they are doing?
Yes it will maybe help the supermarkets in the short term.. but hurt Uk hauliers even more. Brilliant just brilliant.
Just yet more smoke up everyones arse to cover up the core problems. As the Dutch transport representative said on the news today it will not make any difference as there is a shortage of drivers all over Europe."
It will impact a little bit as the European hauliers may chose to play politics and work direct for the likes of B&Q or Tesco’s to push the DHLs of this world’s noses out. They will charge handsomely for doing it though. But it won’t help going forward it will only hurt U.K. hauliers . Some contracts may be lost. The U.K. hauliers need drivers now not in a years time Now.
There are some massive haulage companies on the continent with 7k plus trucks .
DHL have about that number as the UK’s biggest logistics provider but they do in-house work mostly with their own trucks like deliveries for brewery’s or high value liner haul. They sub- contract the big volume and general stuff . |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"It’s ok Grant Shapps is now letting foreign hauliers work their trucks in the U.K. for as long as they like. So our hauliers pay to stand their trucks idle and foreign hauliers take the cash and potential long term customers.
You can’t make this incompetence up. Is there literally anyone in charge who has a clue what they are doing?
Yes it will maybe help the supermarkets in the short term.. but hurt Uk hauliers even more. Brilliant just brilliant.
Just yet more smoke up everyones arse to cover up the core problems. As the Dutch transport representative said on the news today it will not make any difference as there is a shortage of drivers all over Europe.
It will impact a little bit as the European hauliers may chose to play politics and work direct for the likes of B&Q or Tesco’s to push the DHLs of this world’s noses out. They will charge handsomely for doing it though. But it won’t help going forward it will only hurt U.K. hauliers . Some contracts may be lost. The U.K. hauliers need drivers now not in a years time Now.
There are some massive haulage companies on the continent with 7k plus trucks .
DHL have about that number as the UK’s biggest logistics provider but they do in-house work mostly with their own trucks like deliveries for brewery’s or high value liner haul. They sub- contract the big volume and general stuff . "
DHL sub-contract the stuff they cannot make high profits from
Ask any courier who is self employed and they will tell you that most of the money is made by the big companies who have the contracts with the CEO’s lapping up all of the money while paying the minimum they can get away with on the pretext that it’s the customers who don’t want to pay.
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By *mmMandyTV/TS
over a year ago
Southampton |
The biggest hauliers in this country are the supermarkets, they have had front row seats to this developing crisis for years.
I am not aware of any supermarket that has begun any form of "in house" training for drivers, they just expect somebody else to sort it out for them and bare the cost.
its a crisis of their own making.
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