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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton

Mystery post? I’ll put something in though...

According to the OBR, who provide the government with public finance analysis, Brexit is costing the exchequer £32bn or £615m a week. This £32bn, caused by Brexit and Brexit alone, is the amount by which taxes will have to be higher or spending lower.

WINNING!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mystery post? I’ll put something in though...

According to the OBR, who provide the government with public finance analysis, Brexit is costing the exchequer £32bn or £615m a week. This £32bn, caused by Brexit and Brexit alone, is the amount by which taxes will have to be higher or spending lower.

WINNING!!!!!"

Don’t worry, we have just signed a trade deal with Greenland , things are looking up

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By *ayturners turn hayMan  over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Mystery post? I’ll put something in though...

According to the OBR, who provide the government with public finance analysis, Brexit is costing the exchequer £32bn or £615m a week. This £32bn, caused by Brexit and Brexit alone, is the amount by which taxes will have to be higher or spending lower.

WINNING!!!!!"

. I think that we can safely ignore these estimates . The key issue facing most companies currently is inflation and countries across Europe face similar problems . The only difference which Brexit has made is that our trading terms are slightly different to those before .

A new study of the Treasury’s modelling of Brexit outcomes is extremely critical of the HMT approach, citing deficiencies in methodology, unrealistic assumptions, and misrepresentations of the facts. Strikingly, the new paper’s re-estimates of Brexit effects suggest EU membership may have had no significant impact either on UK trade or FDI into the UK. This study supports the conclusions of research by other economists who have been similarly critical of the modelling of Brexit – by the Treasury and other organisations – but the new article’s criticisms could have gone further still

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mystery post? I’ll put something in though...

According to the OBR, who provide the government with public finance analysis, Brexit is costing the exchequer £32bn or £615m a week. This £32bn, caused by Brexit and Brexit alone, is the amount by which taxes will have to be higher or spending lower.

WINNING!!!!!. I think that we can safely ignore these estimates . The key issue facing most companies currently is inflation and countries across Europe face similar problems . The only difference which Brexit has made is that our trading terms are slightly different to those before .

A new study of the Treasury’s modelling of Brexit outcomes is extremely critical of the HMT approach, citing deficiencies in methodology, unrealistic assumptions, and misrepresentations of the facts. Strikingly, the new paper’s re-estimates of Brexit effects suggest EU membership may have had no significant impact either on UK trade or FDI into the UK. This study supports the conclusions of research by other economists who have been similarly critical of the modelling of Brexit – by the Treasury and other organisations – but the new article’s criticisms could have gone further still

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Just to clarify , are you blaming HMT for the massive Brexit turd?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

i prefer to listen to the accurate figures given by the star economists of the OBR and do my own research. one only has to look at how poorly the stock market is performing to know that britain is the only country which is doing so very badly and this is proven to be the fault of brexit. luckily we have an opposition which is throuroughly holding the government to account and forcing them to make u-turns on every one of their policies.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Mystery post? I’ll put something in though...

According to the OBR, who provide the government with public finance analysis, Brexit is costing the exchequer £32bn or £615m a week. This £32bn, caused by Brexit and Brexit alone, is the amount by which taxes will have to be higher or spending lower.

WINNING!!!!!. I think that we can safely ignore these estimates . The key issue facing most companies currently is inflation and countries across Europe face similar problems . The only difference which Brexit has made is that our trading terms are slightly different to those before .

A new study of the Treasury’s modelling of Brexit outcomes is extremely critical of the HMT approach, citing deficiencies in methodology, unrealistic assumptions, and misrepresentations of the facts. Strikingly, the new paper’s re-estimates of Brexit effects suggest EU membership may have had no significant impact either on UK trade or FDI into the UK. This study supports the conclusions of research by other economists who have been similarly critical of the modelling of Brexit – by the Treasury and other organisations – but the new article’s criticisms could have gone further still

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Excellent. Don't worry about reality. Let's focus on something else, that'll work.

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By *ayturners turn hayMan  over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"i prefer to listen to the accurate figures given by the star economists of the OBR and do my own research. one only has to look at how poorly the stock market is performing to know that britain is the only country which is doing so very badly and this is proven to be the fault of brexit. luckily we have an opposition which is throuroughly holding the government to account and forcing them to make u-turns on every one of their policies. "
. I think you will find that the FTSE rose by 15 % last year and dividend payments are at an all time high. These are hardly signs of a struggling economy and in addition the figures are easily verified.

The OBR are simply using a model and the output will depend the accuracy of the input and the assumptions made. With models you can probably manipulate data to get any result that you want..

All the models used by the various Covid modelling experts proved highly inaccurate in their attempts to predict the number of deaths .

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"i prefer to listen to the accurate figures given by the star economists of the OBR and do my own research. one only has to look at how poorly the stock market is performing to know that britain is the only country which is doing so very badly and this is proven to be the fault of brexit. luckily we have an opposition which is throuroughly holding the government to account and forcing them to make u-turns on every one of their policies. . I think you will find that the FTSE rose by 15 % last year and dividend payments are at an all time high. These are hardly signs of a struggling economy and in addition the figures are easily verified.

The OBR are simply using a model and the output will depend the accuracy of the input and the assumptions made. With models you can probably manipulate data to get any result that you want..

All the models used by the various Covid modelling experts proved highly inaccurate in their attempts to predict the number of deaths . "

hi, thanks for the reply. i prefer to do my own research rather than listen to internet warriors. cyber life is not real life and the accurate facts from the OBR and my own research from specialist publications show that stocks in the uk are down 23% over the last 12 years due to the brexit effect. it's safe to say that the sources for this information are infalable and as such it isn't necessary for me to post links. luckily we have a political opposition who are forcing the paralysed government to make u-turns on every policy they attempt to form. hope this helps

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By *nonymousSwingerMan  over a year ago

cambridge


"Mystery post? I’ll put something in though...

According to the OBR, who provide the government with public finance analysis, Brexit is costing the exchequer £32bn or £615m a week. This £32bn, caused by Brexit and Brexit alone, is the amount by which taxes will have to be higher or spending lower.

WINNING!!!!!. I think that we can safely ignore these estimates . The key issue facing most companies currently is inflation and countries across Europe face similar problems . The only difference which Brexit has made is that our trading terms are slightly different to those before .

A new study of the Treasury’s modelling of Brexit outcomes is extremely critical of the HMT approach, citing deficiencies in methodology, unrealistic assumptions, and misrepresentations of the facts. Strikingly, the new paper’s re-estimates of Brexit effects suggest EU membership may have had no significant impact either on UK trade or FDI into the UK. This study supports the conclusions of research by other economists who have been similarly critical of the modelling of Brexit – by the Treasury and other organisations – but the new article’s criticisms could have gone further still

"

So the HMT’s wrong modelling is the reason why trucks are stuck in kent for 1-4 days?? Whilst not an economist, or working in logistics, I’d argue that’s lorry having to double its journey time due to paperwork does sound like the inefficiency and problems that everyone was previously warning about.

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By *ayturners turn hayMan  over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"i prefer to listen to the accurate figures given by the star economists of the OBR and do my own research. one only has to look at how poorly the stock market is performing to know that britain is the only country which is doing so very badly and this is proven to be the fault of brexit. luckily we have an opposition which is throuroughly holding the government to account and forcing them to make u-turns on every one of their policies. . I think you will find that the FTSE rose by 15 % last year and dividend payments are at an all time high. These are hardly signs of a struggling economy and in addition the figures are easily verified.

The OBR are simply using a model and the output will depend the accuracy of the input and the assumptions made. With models you can probably manipulate data to get any result that you want..

All the models used by the various Covid modelling experts proved highly inaccurate in their attempts to predict the number of deaths .

hi, thanks for the reply. i prefer to do my own research rather than listen to internet warriors. cyber life is not real life and the accurate facts from the OBR and my own research from specialist publications show that stocks in the uk are down 23% over the last 12 years due to the brexit effect. it's safe to say that the sources for this information are infalable and as such it isn't necessary for me to post links. luckily we have a political opposition who are forcing the paralysed government to make u-turns on every policy they attempt to form. hope this helps "

. It would be interesting to know why you believe that stocks are down 23% over the past 12 years due to Brexit . The FTSE as at the end of January 2010 was circa 5160 and as at the close of business on Friday was 7466 . I calculate that to be a rise of 46 % . This ignores any dividend income earned . For the FTSE all share index as at January 2010 it stood at 2700 and as the close of business on Friday was 4182 equating to a rise of 54 % .

These figures are very different to those quoted by you and are easily checked .

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West


"i prefer to listen to the accurate figures given by the star economists of the OBR and do my own research. one only has to look at how poorly the stock market is performing to know that britain is the only country which is doing so very badly and this is proven to be the fault of brexit. luckily we have an opposition which is throuroughly holding the government to account and forcing them to make u-turns on every one of their policies. . I think you will find that the FTSE rose by 15 % last year and dividend payments are at an all time high. These are hardly signs of a struggling economy and in addition the figures are easily verified.

The OBR are simply using a model and the output will depend the accuracy of the input and the assumptions made. With models you can probably manipulate data to get any result that you want..

All the models used by the various Covid modelling experts proved highly inaccurate in their attempts to predict the number of deaths .

hi, thanks for the reply. i prefer to do my own research rather than listen to internet warriors. cyber life is not real life and the accurate facts from the OBR and my own research from specialist publications show that stocks in the uk are down 23% over the last 12 years due to the brexit effect. it's safe to say that the sources for this information are infalable and as such it isn't necessary for me to post links. luckily we have a political opposition who are forcing the paralysed government to make u-turns on every policy they attempt to form. hope this helps . It would be interesting to know why you believe that stocks are down 23% over the past 12 years due to Brexit . The FTSE as at the end of January 2010 was circa 5160 and as at the close of business on Friday was 7466 . I calculate that to be a rise of 46 % . This ignores any dividend income earned . For the FTSE all share index as at January 2010 it stood at 2700 and as the close of business on Friday was 4182 equating to a rise of 54 % .

These figures are very different to those quoted by you and are easily checked . "

Pat, I am genuinely intrigued as to why you maintain, or have had - and subsequently discarded literally dozens of profiles on this site? I might pull your leg from time to time, but I seriously do wonder why you have had or maintain so many profiles? Why do you do it?

Anyone who has been on this site for more than a few weeks can immediately recognise the style and syntax of you thread contributions and so it is obvious who you are even if under a second, third, fourth or however many different profile names you use?

Do you get banned and re-emerge as seemingly someone new, or do you just get bored with one of your profiles and decide to invent a new one?

I am genuinely interested in knowing your thought process?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"i prefer to listen to the accurate figures given by the star economists of the OBR and do my own research. one only has to look at how poorly the stock market is performing to know that britain is the only country which is doing so very badly and this is proven to be the fault of brexit. luckily we have an opposition which is throuroughly holding the government to account and forcing them to make u-turns on every one of their policies. . I think you will find that the FTSE rose by 15 % last year and dividend payments are at an all time high. These are hardly signs of a struggling economy and in addition the figures are easily verified.

The OBR are simply using a model and the output will depend the accuracy of the input and the assumptions made. With models you can probably manipulate data to get any result that you want..

All the models used by the various Covid modelling experts proved highly inaccurate in their attempts to predict the number of deaths .

hi, thanks for the reply. i prefer to do my own research rather than listen to internet warriors. cyber life is not real life and the accurate facts from the OBR and my own research from specialist publications show that stocks in the uk are down 23% over the last 12 years due to the brexit effect. it's safe to say that the sources for this information are infalable and as such it isn't necessary for me to post links. luckily we have a political opposition who are forcing the paralysed government to make u-turns on every policy they attempt to form. hope this helps . It would be interesting to know why you believe that stocks are down 23% over the past 12 years due to Brexit . The FTSE as at the end of January 2010 was circa 5160 and as at the close of business on Friday was 7466 . I calculate that to be a rise of 46 % . This ignores any dividend income earned . For the FTSE all share index as at January 2010 it stood at 2700 and as the close of business on Friday was 4182 equating to a rise of 54 % .

These figures are very different to those quoted by you and are easily checked . "

hi, thanks for your reply. i prefer to listen to the star economists of the OBR rather than what rendoms people write on a porn site and i prefer to do my own research for the factual figures proven by experts in their field who have access to sources that need no checking as they are so accurate. luckily, we have the OBR to turn to for the best knowledge on the figures. hope this helps

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West

Apologies for the weird nature of this post but I was having router issues and the post did not appear to have been received and so I posted again only to think I had double powered and so deleted what I thought was a double post - but it wasn’t.

To be honest, someone posted not long after what I meant to post and that was the the FT had published some of the Governments own data projections from the OBR that Brexit alone was costing £32 billion per year and that tax rises, or austerity cuts of that amount would be needed to stay afloat.

The current NI rise of 10% on current rates is only an attempt to limit the Covid bleed. Much more severe tax rises will be needed to cope with the Brexit fallout.

Was this written on the side of a bus?

I didn’t see it.

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