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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Why is it that so many from the west seem to think that we are the only ones being fed the truth about everything?

Of course there are many who take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, no matter the source, but there seem to be so many that absorb everything our media puts out and believe in it religiously…

There’s an inherent “we are enlightened, the rest of the world is lied to and manipulated” attitude that must piss off the rest of the world and I think plays directly into the hands of paid up social engineers.

What are your thoughts? Do we need to change our view of the rest of the world? Are we being played? Or are we more informed than anyone else?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Why is it that so many from the west seem to think that we are the only ones being fed the truth about everything?

Of course there are many who take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, no matter the source, but there seem to be so many that absorb everything our media puts out and believe in it religiously…

There’s an inherent “we are enlightened, the rest of the world is lied to and manipulated” attitude that must piss off the rest of the world and I think plays directly into the hands of paid up social engineers.

What are your thoughts? Do we need to change our view of the rest of the world? Are we being played? Or are we more informed than anyone else?

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Being able to consume media from different sources should give a more considered view.

Where is choice most readily available?

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"Why is it that so many from the west seem to think that we are the only ones being fed the truth about everything?

Of course there are many who take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, no matter the source, but there seem to be so many that absorb everything our media puts out and believe in it religiously…

There’s an inherent “we are enlightened, the rest of the world is lied to and manipulated” attitude that must piss off the rest of the world and I think plays directly into the hands of paid up social engineers.

What are your thoughts? Do we need to change our view of the rest of the world? Are we being played? Or are we more informed than anyone else?

Being able to consume media from different sources should give a more considered view.

Where is choice most readily available? "

Not in Russia just for example

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Why is it that so many from the west seem to think that we are the only ones being fed the truth about everything?

Of course there are many who take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, no matter the source, but there seem to be so many that absorb everything our media puts out and believe in it religiously…

There’s an inherent “we are enlightened, the rest of the world is lied to and manipulated” attitude that must piss off the rest of the world and I think plays directly into the hands of paid up social engineers.

What are your thoughts? Do we need to change our view of the rest of the world? Are we being played? Or are we more informed than anyone else?

Being able to consume media from different sources should give a more considered view.

Where is choice most readily available? "

How many news sources are owned by Rupert Murdoch?

And I’m sure the internet makes our news sources available worldwide? Which would mean readily available.

Also, just because we have a plethora of sources, does that instantly mean we are more enlightened? Our supermarkets have a plethora of choices, until you look at the label and see Pepsico or some other major corporation on the back of almost every thing in your basket?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everyone has an angle, from A Russian Oligarch to a Western Media mogul to a pleb who think’s s/he knows it all be because they've red it in the Fail or seen something on Tick Tock and know their vote was the one that mattered.

Everyone Has a spin and a game of some sort. The increasingly challenging balancing act is figuring out what is really going on. Top tip os to follow the money as it is the deeds not the words that usually reveal the truth. Sadly.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

I think our press are pretty savvy when it comes to truth but its true everyone has an angle.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan  over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

who exactly is this 'the west' that you are attempting to make a point about?

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Why is it that so many from the west seem to think that we are the only ones being fed the truth about everything?

Of course there are many who take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, no matter the source, but there seem to be so many that absorb everything our media puts out and believe in it religiously…

There’s an inherent “we are enlightened, the rest of the world is lied to and manipulated” attitude that must piss off the rest of the world and I think plays directly into the hands of paid up social engineers.

What are your thoughts? Do we need to change our view of the rest of the world? Are we being played? Or are we more informed than anyone else?

Being able to consume media from different sources should give a more considered view.

Where is choice most readily available?

How many news sources are owned by Rupert Murdoch?

And I’m sure the internet makes our news sources available worldwide? Which would mean readily available.

Also, just because we have a plethora of sources, does that instantly mean we are more enlightened? Our supermarkets have a plethora of choices, until you look at the label and see Pepsico or some other major corporation on the back of almost every thing in your basket?"

The consumption of anything should be considered, by the consumer. The quality of reporting is constantly under the microscope, and rightly so, but what we tend not to put under the microscope, is how we read and absorb the information presented.

Covid and Brexit are excellent examples of how we read something to meet our own agendas, don't like or agree with what is being reported it tends to get dismissed out of hand as rubbish.

Media and reporting is like a mathematical question, you can look at the information and gauge roughly where the answer should be, if you arrive at a number that isn't in the expected range, you know you've gone wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why is it that so many from the west seem to think that we are the only ones being fed the truth about everything?

Of course there are many who take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, no matter the source, but there seem to be so many that absorb everything our media puts out and believe in it religiously…

There’s an inherent “we are enlightened, the rest of the world is lied to and manipulated” attitude that must piss off the rest of the world and I think plays directly into the hands of paid up social engineers.

What are your thoughts? Do we need to change our view of the rest of the world? Are we being played? Or are we more informed than anyone else?

Being able to consume media from different sources should give a more considered view.

Where is choice most readily available?

How many news sources are owned by Rupert Murdoch?

And I’m sure the internet makes our news sources available worldwide? Which would mean readily available.

Also, just because we have a plethora of sources, does that instantly mean we are more enlightened? Our supermarkets have a plethora of choices, until you look at the label and see Pepsico or some other major corporation on the back of almost every thing in your basket?

The consumption of anything should be considered, by the consumer. The quality of reporting is constantly under the microscope, and rightly so, but what we tend not to put under the microscope, is how we read and absorb the information presented.

Covid and Brexit are excellent examples of how we read something to meet our own agendas, don't like or agree with what is being reported it tends to get dismissed out of hand as rubbish.

Media and reporting is like a mathematical question, you can look at the information and gauge roughly where the answer should be, if you arrive at a number that isn't in the expected range, you know you've gone wrong."

Kind of agree on that point. If you listen to news a lot of the headlines they are quotes of what a leader or politician has said.

So what he or she maybe saying is a unproven opinion. But a lot of listeners when they hear it on every headline on the TV and radio, assume it to be fact.

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton

Tangental but In case anyone is interested... Sunak’s wife has £500m in shares in Infosys (her Dad’s company) which is still actively trading in and with Russia.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Tangental but In case anyone is interested... Sunak’s wife has £500m in shares in Infosys (her Dad’s company) which is still actively trading in and with Russia."
I dont think India has put any sanctions on Russia.

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton


"Tangental but In case anyone is interested... Sunak’s wife has £500m in shares in Infosys (her Dad’s company) which is still actively trading in and with Russia.I dont think India has put any sanctions on Russia."

The point being that Sunak was quoted over the weekend saying...

“I welcome commitments already made by a number of firms to divest from Russian assets”

May need a chat with the Mrs and father-in-law.

It’s all gaslighting with the Tories trying to give the image of being tough on Russia.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Tangental but In case anyone is interested... Sunak’s wife has £500m in shares in Infosys (her Dad’s company) which is still actively trading in and with Russia.I dont think India has put any sanctions on Russia.

The point being that Sunak was quoted over the weekend saying...

“I welcome commitments already made by a number of firms to divest from Russian assets”

May need a chat with the Mrs and father-in-law.

It’s all gaslighting with the Tories trying to give the image of being tough on Russia."

So are you saying no one should hold shares in foreign companies that are still dealing with russia?

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol

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By *yron69Man  over a year ago

Fareham

We have choice and can access news sites anywhere.

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"Tangental but In case anyone is interested... Sunak’s wife has £500m in shares in Infosys (her Dad’s company) which is still actively trading in and with Russia."

But did she not already have the shares way before any of this kicked off ? If it’s her dad’s company then they were probably given to her by daddy ?

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By *ornucopiaMan  over a year ago

Bexley

Ominous silence from all those who, for the last couple of years, were singing the praises of Russia Today as the trusted source of all the unbiased news available to us Brits, in preference to the 'leftie' BBC.

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"Ominous silence from all those who, for the last couple of years, were singing the praises of Russia Today as the trusted source of all the unbiased news available to us Brits, in preference to the 'leftie' BBC."

I bet Alex Salmond is really pissed off with losing the cash cow that’s RT

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