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"We looked into this but we were with Bulb who Octopus formally acquired on 22nd December 2022. Octopus are doing the discount for customers but only those who have been customers since 1st December 2021, and who have a smart metre." Bit annoying as I am an Octopus customer with a smart metre that has not worked for 3 years | |||
"I don't know what to make of this post. It appears you have been purposefully using more energy during peak times to artificially inflate your usage to grab a £45 payment. Boasting about it, seems very wrong especially when you will know many people are struggling with their bills and energy consumption. I hope it all works out for you and you get what you deserve "Free Market Economics as they encourage. I buy in at times it is more beneficial and either withhold consumption or sell some back to the Grid to profit. Is that any different to Stock markets, Hedge Funding - there are always Winners and Loosers. Some Energy tariffs activity promote buying electricity cheap, selling when buy back is dearer. Reading other renewable forums, I ain't the only one cashing in at 5pm. "Purposely using Energy at peak times", no, using Energy as I wish when I wish as was clearly stated by government last year and recently when they said "carry on as normal". I don't tell you when or not to use electricity although better Grid awareness of the public, no one would need 'bribing' not to use it to prevent Blackouts. Tyres are good for another two years, so think I'll go get one of those excellent Happy Ending Massages at NationalGrid's expense in Wigan for £40 tomorrow instead!! I think I deserve it, stressful getting up at 6am to arrange battery chargers.. Shall I tell you about the guy who regulary charges his Renault Zoe at Tesco for free, then goes home to sell it back to the Grid using V2G at peak times for profit? | |||
"I don't know what to make of this post. It appears you have been purposefully using more energy during peak times to artificially inflate your usage to grab a £45 payment. Boasting about it, seems very wrong especially when you will know many people are struggling with their bills and energy consumption. I hope it all works out for you and you get what you deserve " | |||
"I don't know what to make of this post. It appears you have been purposefully using more energy during peak times to artificially inflate your usage to grab a £45 payment. Boasting about it, seems very wrong especially when you will know many people are struggling with their bills and energy consumption. I hope it all works out for you and you get what you deserve
Free Market Economics as they encourage. I buy in at times it is more beneficial and either withhold consumption or sell some back to the Grid to profit.
Is that any different to Stock markets, Hedge Funding - there are always Winners and Loosers. Some Energy tariffs activity promote buying electricity cheap, selling when buy back is dearer.
Reading other renewable forums, I ain't the only one cashing in at 5pm. "Purposely using Energy at peak times", no, using Energy as I wish when I wish as was clearly stated by government last year and recently when they said "carry on as normal". I don't tell you when or not to use electricity although better Grid awareness of the public, no one would need 'bribing' not to use it to prevent Blackouts.
Tyres are good for another two years, so think I'll go get one of those excellent Happy Ending Massages at NationalGrid's expense in Wigan for £40 tomorrow instead!!
I think I deserve it, stressful getting up at 6am to arrange battery chargers..
Shall I tell you about the guy who regulary charges his Renault Zoe at Tesco for free, then goes home to sell it back to the Grid using V2G at peak times for profit?"God knows what you would do for £2000... Good luck with the happy ending, the irony actually made me laugh  | |||
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"For £2k - you really don't want to know.. I find it strange that there is critism of using technology that wasn't cheap to an advantage and frowned upon. "Carry on normally" was the instruction, exactly what I intend to do. Soak up 24hrs worth of Energy between 5pm-6pm then be paid to avoid it on risky days like today. Seen as though last few weeks have been windy, thus saving government all that lucious Windfall they set aside along with Gas prices crashing. They dodged a bullet, although we're not out the woods just yet. It seems that bribing consumers to save 3GWh of energy for an hour to save face, is good value for money. 3GWh = one tenth of Wind or Gas, 50% of our total Nuclear - will it be enough? I'm doing my bit, going off Grid in 20mins for an hour and a half to take my load off. I'll recharge house and car batteries after 9pm ready to use tomorrow. Solar is picking up as well, so may need to forget to switch patio heaters off as need battery capacity to keep import high at 5pm. I love a Happy Ending.." Can't do it as not on a smart meter. How am I supposed to my pass the meter to get free electricity if I have a smart meter installed. | |||
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"Free Market Economics as they encourage. I buy in at times it is more beneficial and either withhold consumption or sell some back to the Grid to profit. Is that any different to Stock markets, Hedge Funding - there are always Winners and Loosers. Some Energy tariffs activity promote buying electricity cheap, selling when buy back is dearer." I don't think anyone is complaining that you're doing it. But starting a thread just to boast about it could be seen as slightly vulgar. | |||
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"Why dont we use mill wheels to genarate electricity on all the rivers that regulary flood every year.a modern wheel can bi as small as a pushbike wheel atatched to a box the size of a garden shed on the river bank" Some communities have done so.. | |||
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"The hypocrisy of asking and paying 1 million households to cutback for cash at 4:30pm in order that the rest can continue with "business as usual". Instead of simply being honest and frank with the whole population and ask everyone to hold back between 4pm and 6pm - it's not difficult. Just simply putting it out there to refrain from washers, dishwashers, Tumble Dryers and charging EVs on difficult days like today. No, they prefer to pay some to sacrifice to benefit the rest, keeping their lights, washers and dishwashers and EV chargers on. I've seen reports people turned off central heating and lights last night and they will today. That wasn't the plan, which was to avoid heavy loading of appliances and electric heaters. Sat in darkness to save 6watts and a gas boiler at 80watts. 35 minutes and I'll be disconnecting from the Grid until 6pm." I have to agree with your first point also these customers who have signed up to this "help out the grid" may have signed up to having their supply turned off to "help out the grid".  | |||
"The hypocrisy of asking and paying 1 million households to cutback for cash at 4:30pm in order that the rest can continue with "business as usual". Instead of simply being honest and frank with the whole population and ask everyone to hold back between 4pm and 6pm - it's not difficult. Just simply putting it out there to refrain from washers, dishwashers, Tumble Dryers and charging EVs on difficult days like today. No, they prefer to pay some to sacrifice to benefit the rest, keeping their lights, washers and dishwashers and EV chargers on. I've seen reports people turned off central heating and lights last night and they will today. That wasn't the plan, which was to avoid heavy loading of appliances and electric heaters. Sat in darkness to save 6watts and a gas boiler at 80watts. 35 minutes and I'll be disconnecting from the Grid until 6pm." I don't think your able to comprehend quantities of scale. Understandable with people that like to complain about anything and everything. | |||
"The hypocrisy of asking and paying 1 million households to cutback for cash at 4:30pm in order that the rest can continue with "business as usual". Instead of simply being honest and frank with the whole population and ask everyone to hold back between 4pm and 6pm - it's not difficult. Just simply putting it out there to refrain from washers, dishwashers, Tumble Dryers and charging EVs on difficult days like today. No, they prefer to pay some to sacrifice to benefit the rest, keeping their lights, washers and dishwashers and EV chargers on. I've seen reports people turned off central heating and lights last night and they will today. That wasn't the plan, which was to avoid heavy loading of appliances and electric heaters. Sat in darkness to save 6watts and a gas boiler at 80watts. 35 minutes and I'll be disconnecting from the Grid until 6pm." So do they disconnected you or do you just not pull from the grid or an you not supply to the grid and get a double payment. | |||
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"The hypocrisy of asking and paying 1 million households to cutback for cash at 4:30pm in order that the rest can continue with "business as usual". Instead of simply being honest and frank with the whole population and ask everyone to hold back between 4pm and 6pm - it's not difficult. Just simply putting it out there to refrain from washers, dishwashers, Tumble Dryers and charging EVs on difficult days like today. No, they prefer to pay some to sacrifice to benefit the rest, keeping their lights, washers and dishwashers and EV chargers on. I've seen reports people turned off central heating and lights last night and they will today. That wasn't the plan, which was to avoid heavy loading of appliances and electric heaters. Sat in darkness to save 6watts and a gas boiler at 80watts. 35 minutes and I'll be disconnecting from the Grid until 6pm. So do they disconnected you or do you just not pull from the grid or an you not supply to the grid and get a double payment. " I refuse to Export, peanuts for valuable power I can use at home. Yes, it had a higher value this evening but not worth it over the year. I manually disconnected for two reasons. 1) to test scenario of power loss and that the inverter could supply the house. It did amicably by powering the house, central heating, lights, TV as well as the washer and dishwasher at the same time. Normally, as was the case yesterday, so long as the Inverter is in 'Self Use' mode and battery capacity is high enough, there would be no Import when consumption is below 5kwh on battery. The Inverter has two 230v outputs, one Grid Tied and the other Back-Up. In day to day use, Grid Tied remains active which as long as batteries have power, continuously pushes Grid power back to stop Import. Tonight was to switch the whole house from Grid with Inverter to Back-Up where Inverternis isolated from the Grid and powering the house on its own. 2) to ensure when switching back to Grid / Inverter, everything is restored back to normal. Basically simulation of a 1.5hr complete powercut. So, no, you remain connected and can use power if needed but don't don't get paid. Basically, they take your average tea-time usage and during off-load periods, they watch to see if you used less than the average - it is this what they pay for. Example: Say on any average tea time period, I use 4kwh due to cooking, washing, electric shower, tumble dryer. Tonight, by agreeing to opt-in, and reduce consumption during the period to just lights and the boiler and used 500w (0.5kwh). They take 0.5kwh from the 4kwh leaving 3.5kwh (I didn't use) and pay £3 per kwh £10.50. Some have been disappointed because they expected more but what they don't understand, is that they only got paid £2.50 or so because their average isn't high. Hence, by forcing the batteries to charge, EV car charging and washer/dryer - I can easy maintain nearly maximum 22kwh draw for the period. Which, when they run the scheme, my 'perceived' consumption is massively reduced. My nominal average was 15kwh to 18kwh, so when I switch everything off, drops to 500w, they pay me for the reduction of 14.5kwh which at £3/KWh is £43.50. Tonight will be higher as Grid Import was Zero as was off-grid. The power used when not on a Session is not wasted as I simply rapid charge the batteries between 4pm and 6pm, then discharge them again overnight. But my tea-time draw is high which the meter 'sees'. Is it really worth delaying tea for £2.40 in a normal household as a sacrifice? Not really, I wouldn't do it. So, yesterday National Grid set aside £850,000 to pay £3/kwh - equivalent to £3000/mwh at a time Wholesale electricity was £125/gwh. Good value for money? Tonight, this was doubled to £1.6m to cover the extra half hour. So, over the last two evenings, they've dished out £2.5m for what? 500mwh of electricity, its a teeny amount in the grand-scale. A tenth of this counties Nuclear output and 50th of Gas/Wind generation. TBH - it wouldn't have been noticed at Grid level and a frigging expensive folly. Bigger and better results could have been achieved by simply explaining the problem of limited supply and asked the UK Public to support by shifting loads until tonight - FOR FREE. If asked, I'd be more than happy to wait to switch appliances on as I'm sure many others would to help. We did it during the War, but government refuse to admit there is an issue and therefore, instead of getting Public onside, they resort to bribery. The media have paid more attention to the money making than the real reasons it was implemented- to prevent possible blackouts. "Business as usual" with "no restrictions" they said. I know a selfish few would say "go screw yourselves", but many many more would have stood behind and supported it to avoid power failures and the greater good for all. Partly why I've done this was to prove this scheme was a load of bollocks and made £120 in the process. Write to your MPs and suggest it is cheaper and better to be honest and frank with us. | |||
"Seems that Gas generation is almost at max and the damned wind's stopped blowing just as we're coming out of a cold spell. Anyone else cashing in at 5pm not to charge their cars, cook or avoid the dishwasher, washer and dryer? At £3kwh, I'll be £45 better off tomorrow as I'll be deloading demand by 15kwh-20kwh. I've been charging the home batteries and the car from 5pm until 7pm the last few weeks to run them back down overnight so perceived consumption 'drop' is significant. I'll be using the batteries to live as normal as I've have charged them this morning ready, so actually be cutting back, just reduced the Import, not usage. Ohh, the cost of lack of investment and having to buy your way out of a problem. BBC News - People will be paid to use less electricity on Monday https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64367504 Up to a million households in England, Scotland and Wales will be paid to use less electricity on Monday evening as part of a scheme to avoid blackouts." £45 better off for one evening are you sure about that?? | |||
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"Spend thousands of pounds on batteries and chargers to get £45 for a wank You are kidding yourself" Is your Energy bill £200 this YEAR, next year and year after year? Mine just halved to £100 this year, over the last 48 hours. You kidding yourself? | |||
"Spend thousands of pounds on batteries and chargers to get £45 for a wank You are kidding yourself Is your Energy bill £200 this YEAR, next year and year after year? Mine just halved to £100 this year, over the last 48 hours. You kidding yourself?" So if the grid is creeking what will happen when we all get forced to install air source heat pumps. | |||
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There's a charity not far from you called DEPHER. They could do with some of your expertise. | |||
"It's very rare I pay for something, sometimes I'll contribute a little and most of the time, I profit when I buy it. 7 years ago, I purchased 10x sets of Solar Thermal tubes on a pallet for £80 per set from Bankrupt Stock, they sold like hot cakes for £295 each, bearing in mind RRP was £1,499 per set. In the end, I'd bought and sold over 180 sets and put £34k cash in a renewables pot. That pot has paid for my full system plus cash to buy quantities for discounts of other parts needed to sell n keep. Example: I wanted a Dyson but couldn't justify £399, waited until Black Friday and bought 8x on offer for £249 with a £40 accessory kit, when prices went up, sold 7x for £349 - £50 cheaper than Currys with a kit. Mine cost -£451. Air Conditioners- import 15 units, sell 13x and keep 3x for free. Then the 15kwh batteries - bought 30x, sold 27 and kept 3x and £5k up in the process. How much did my whole system actually cost? Hmm, now let me see. "I'm sure you let the taxman know of your ventures? | |||
"It's very rare I pay for something, sometimes I'll contribute a little and most of the time, I profit when I buy it. 7 years ago, I purchased 10x sets of Solar Thermal tubes on a pallet for £80 per set from Bankrupt Stock, they sold like hot cakes for £295 each, bearing in mind RRP was £1,499 per set. In the end, I'd bought and sold over 180 sets and put £34k cash in a renewables pot. That pot has paid for my full system plus cash to buy quantities for discounts of other parts needed to sell n keep. Example: I wanted a Dyson but couldn't justify £399, waited until Black Friday and bought 8x on offer for £249 with a £40 accessory kit, when prices went up, sold 7x for £349 - £50 cheaper than Currys with a kit. Mine cost -£451. Air Conditioners- import 15 units, sell 13x and keep 3x for free. Then the 15kwh batteries - bought 30x, sold 27 and kept 3x and £5k up in the process. How much did my whole system actually cost? Hmm, now let me see.
I'm sure you let the taxman know of your ventures?"Was going to say same thing. Funboy you are operating like a business (not just selling your unwanted stuff). HMRC will want a cut of that. | |||
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"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000." Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. | |||
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"Do some people just post to be deliberately offensive and nasty or is it just my imagination ? The green arrow would suggest I'm not wrong ?" Can you not see a windup merchant. | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation." I hope he throws in a guarantee with the stuff he sells as a supplier. | |||
"Air Conditioners- import 15 units, sell 13x and keep 3x for free. If you imported to re sell this would mean you should be vat registered and vat added to sales. But if you imported 15 and sols 13 and kept 3 I guess you also found 1 So I hope you informed customs that actually 16 where in the shipment??" There is NO condition to be VAT registered as a private individual, just pay at entry and sell on. The obvious customers that would be reluctant to buy is VAT registered companies who would not benefit from the import being reclaimed and a +VAT sale price. Some people are very nieve. I can buy from anywhere, pay the VAT and sell for profit up to the threshold. The Air Conditioners were purchased while the UK was in the EU and VAT in Italy was cheaper and therefore, paid There, not here. Different story today, 5% plus 20%, plus expensive money transfers and extortionate shipping. The Samsungs I have worked out at £390 delivered. Believe what you want.. | |||
"So you purchased 15 A/C units, sold 13 and kept the other 3? Sounds like a good business model
There's a charity not far from you called DEPHER. They could do with some of your expertise."Was very straightforward. Air Conditioners are expensive here. Buy 15x at £390 each delivered, add £100 to the 12x sold on. At £495, still half price to exactly the the same models sold here - they snatched my hand off and sold in three weeks and covered the £1200 for the 3 taken out. EU stopped 'warranty borders' and therefore covered by Samsung UK if there was any issue. It's a model I've used for many years, especially around Black Friday. Dewalt tools is another - buy a quantity when cheap or on offer, sell for profit - keep one for free. I have some awesome professional grade kit for almost or 'Free' and sure beats crappy DIY brands. £100 tool on offer for £79, buy 10, sell 9 for £90 - mine cost nothing by making a £11 on each. Ever see eBay 20% offers? Read the small print, you can use vouchers 2 to 6 times depending. Life is cheaper by using imagination, although many won't understand. | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation." Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism. | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism." And it is for that reason, you are fired! Now get out of the forum | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism." So you ARE declaring income for tax purposes. That was the point being raised. | |||
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"Air Conditioners- import 15 units, sell 13x and keep 3x for free. If you imported to re sell this would mean you should be vat registered and vat added to sales. But if you imported 15 and sols 13 and kept 3 I guess you also found 1 So I hope you informed customs that actually 16 where in the shipment?? There is NO condition to be VAT registered as a private individual, just pay at entry and sell on. The obvious customers that would be reluctant to buy is VAT registered companies who would not benefit from the import being reclaimed and a +VAT sale price. Some people are very nieve. I can buy from anywhere, pay the VAT and sell for profit up to the threshold. The Air Conditioners were purchased while the UK was in the EU and VAT in Italy was cheaper and therefore, paid There, not here. Different story today, 5% plus 20%, plus expensive money transfers and extortionate shipping. The Samsungs I have worked out at £390 delivered. Believe what you want.." No if you are turning over more then £85K you would need to be VAT registered and do money laundering cheques as well. | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism." Ever herd of capital gains tax if you gained 40% | |||
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"You can be:- A limited Company, where you will pay Capital Gains Tax. A Sole Trader, where you have declare ALL income on your Self Assessment Form A private individual paying PAYE, where you have to declare any second income. Or a tax dodger. " Most pick Tax dodger my self included where I can. I wander if you are getting paid not to use electricity on a smart meter that will be classed as income. Letter to MP I think? Fun boy recond £100 a day so at PAYE basic rate 20% and its not like its un traced | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism. Ever herd of capital gains tax if you gained 40% " HUH?? I ain't even going to waste my time responding to that one.. | |||
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"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism. So you ARE declaring income for tax purposes. That was the point being raised." Maybe, Maybe not - is it actually anyones business here? I'm sure there are plenty of cash only 'trades' on here that are not playing by the rules - do they get the same accus, sorry interrogations? Like Rishi and government have claimed many times this week, what happens between the tax man and an individual is their private business. Holy shit, FunBoys stuck £100 in an offshore bank account- lock him up. Ken Dodd didn't live far from here, what were those feather dusters called? I should have asked the pretty lady pulling my dick earlier tonight if she's declaring her income, I'll ask her next week. Tickling Sticks - that was it.. | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism. So you ARE declaring income for tax purposes. That was the point being raised. Maybe, Maybe not - is it actually anyones business here? I'm sure there are plenty of cash only 'trades' on here that are not playing by the rules - do they get the same accus, sorry interrogations? Like Rishi and government have claimed many times this week, what happens between the tax man and an individual is their private business. Holy shit, FunBoys stuck £100 in an offshore bank account- lock him up. Ken Dodd didn't live far from here, what were those feather dusters called? I should have asked the pretty lady pulling my dick earlier tonight if she's declaring her income, I'll ask her next week. Tickling Sticks - that was it.." Difference is you are continually posting about the money you are making rather than keeping it private. I understand the point of the posts about how you are saving on energy costs, they are informative, but the rest are just focused around you generating income. So it seemed fair to point out the tax implications. | |||
"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism. So you ARE declaring income for tax purposes. That was the point being raised. Maybe, Maybe not - is it actually anyones business here? I'm sure there are plenty of cash only 'trades' on here that are not playing by the rules - do they get the same accus, sorry interrogations? Like Rishi and government have claimed many times this week, what happens between the tax man and an individual is their private business. Holy shit, FunBoys stuck £100 in an offshore bank account- lock him up. Ken Dodd didn't live far from here, what were those feather dusters called? I should have asked the pretty lady pulling my dick earlier tonight if she's declaring her income, I'll ask her next week. Tickling Sticks - that was it.. Difference is you are continually posting about the money you are making rather than keeping it private. I understand the point of the posts about how you are saving on energy costs, they are informative, but the rest are just focused around you generating income. So it seemed fair to point out the tax implications." Is it true it's the people with small dicks claim to be super studs ? | |||
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"So when I bought a new £450 washing machine for £250 - by breaking the old one up and selling the pump, motor, solenoids, PCB and door assembly for £200. A £750 boiler for new £350 - by breaking up and selling the working internal parts out the old one such as Diverter, Pump block, PCB, heat exchanger and furnace for £400. £299 Dishwasher for £100 - Used 30% discount offer then took drum from washer, welded legs on it and sold as a garden fire pit for £100. Scrap man hates as all he gets is carcasses from here. Should I declare these or do these fall under 'allowed second earnings' which I believe is £1000. Your earlier post refers to 10 sets, 180 sets, 8 dysons. That will be deemed to be running a reseller business and subject to tax. Not sure re things in this post. It depends on the scale of the operation. Self Assessment - Heard of it? It's when you step out of the 9am to 5pm Humdrum and realise there is another world out there - entrepreneurism. So you ARE declaring income for tax purposes. That was the point being raised. Maybe, Maybe not - is it actually anyones business here? I'm sure there are plenty of cash only 'trades' on here that are not playing by the rules - do they get the same accus, sorry interrogations? Like Rishi and government have claimed many times this week, what happens between the tax man and an individual is their private business. Holy shit, FunBoys stuck £100 in an offshore bank account- lock him up. Ken Dodd didn't live far from here, what were those feather dusters called? I should have asked the pretty lady pulling my dick earlier tonight if she's declaring her income, I'll ask her next week. Tickling Sticks - that was it.. Difference is you are continually posting about the money you are making rather than keeping it private. I understand the point of the posts about how you are saving on energy costs, they are informative, but the rest are just focused around you generating income. So it seemed fair to point out the tax implications. Is it true it's the people with small dicks claim to be super studs ? " No idea but I always thought I was hung like a stallion as I was always “successful with the ladies” and didn’t need to boast (for the record I am hung more like a shetland pony but way over average apparently ) | |||
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"See above - the point exactly!! Childish and silly comments.." Wasn’t aimed at you, just bringing some much needed levity  | |||
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" Just can't quite remember what it was, though." Don't be so coy, you've mastered the art of belittlement to a T | |||
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"Taking meter readings is a little last decade lol I open an app and get see nice graphs and bar charts and get automatic alerts depending on usage
"I still do meter readings and have to put them on line to the supplier. | |||
"Taking meter readings is a little last decade lol I open an app and get see nice graphs and bar charts and get automatic alerts depending on usage
"As far as I am aware it's not a dictatorship and we still have a few choices left. I choose not to have a smart meter,I choose to take my readings and supply them monthly to my supplier,I have an app I can go online and see my charge's and usage. I keep a record of all my readings and it's easy to understand. Why is this seen as being outdated? A smart meter is just another control mechanism. | |||
"Taking meter readings is a little last decade lol I open an app and get see nice graphs and bar charts and get automatic alerts depending on usage
As far as I am aware it's not a dictatorship and we still have a few choices left.
I choose not to have a smart meter,I choose to take my readings and supply them monthly to my supplier,I have an app I can go online and see my charge's and usage.
I keep a record of all my readings and it's easy to understand.
Why is this seen as being outdated?
A smart meter is just another control mechanism."Yep and with a smart meter they can also easily cut you off! | |||
"Taking meter readings is a little last decade lol I open an app and get see nice graphs and bar charts and get automatic alerts depending on usage
As far as I am aware it's not a dictatorship and we still have a few choices left.
I choose not to have a smart meter,I choose to take my readings and supply them monthly to my supplier,I have an app I can go online and see my charge's and usage.
I keep a record of all my readings and it's easy to understand.
Why is this seen as being outdated?
A smart meter is just another control mechanism."Not a smart meter, it's a CT linked to a logger with WiFi it helps manage the heatpump and gas boiler. I have control and "they" don't lol | |||
"Taking meter readings is a little last decade lol I open an app and get see nice graphs and bar charts and get automatic alerts depending on usage
As far as I am aware it's not a dictatorship and we still have a few choices left.
I choose not to have a smart meter,I choose to take my readings and supply them monthly to my supplier,I have an app I can go online and see my charge's and usage.
I keep a record of all my readings and it's easy to understand.
Why is this seen as being outdated?
A smart meter is just another control mechanism.
Yep and with a smart meter they can also easily cut you off!". They're also planning to use "your" electric car to provide power to the grid if required. Could be a little disadvantage of having a split tarrif if you can't get to work in the morning  | |||
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"Before you get carried away on the 'should have', 'shouldn't have' a Smart Meter issue. If you'd not realised - it was just another cheap, childish attempt at a demeaning comment that as usual - backfired. Obviously, they give actual readings as well as rolling accumulation to allow simple maths to calculate the difference and there are still legacy meters installed here beyond the primary meters? I find monitoring Energy use using alternative and far more informative means than the Smart Meter ever could - such as the MyEnergi system, the Solis Inverter and the RS485 kit linked to IFTT to switch on/off loads as Surplus Solar becomes available. Follow the Green Arrow and all will become clear! " Why use rs485 ? | |||
"Just done the meter readings: Gas: Sept 18th: 13561m3 Jan 30th: 13796m3 Consumed: 235m (2,536kwh) @ 4p/kw £101.44 Electricity: Sept 18th: 53052 Jan 30th: 54412 Consumed: 1,360kwh @ 19.9p/KWh £270.64 Total Energy £373.44 Taking off Government rebates thus far = £267, leaving £105 for 4 and a half months, is that £23 per month excluding Standing Charges. I don't think I'll be visiting any scrap yards, anytime soon!! "So what's that got to do with the national grid ? So you run it ? | |||
"Before you get carried away on the 'should have', 'shouldn't have' a Smart Meter issue. If you'd not realised - it was just another cheap, childish attempt at a demeaning comment that as usual - backfired. Obviously, they give actual readings as well as rolling accumulation to allow simple maths to calculate the difference and there are still legacy meters installed here beyond the primary meters? I find monitoring Energy use using alternative and far more informative means than the Smart Meter ever could - such as the MyEnergi system, the Solis Inverter and the RS485 kit linked to IFTT to switch on/off loads as Surplus Solar becomes available. Follow the Green Arrow and all will become clear! Why use rs485 ?" It's just cut and paste trolling pal, can't put the shovel down lol | |||
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"Just done the meter readings: Gas: Sept 18th: 13561m3 Jan 30th: 13796m3 Consumed: 235m (2,536kwh) @ 4p/kw £101.44 Electricity: Sept 18th: 53052 Jan 30th: 54412 Consumed: 1,360kwh @ 19.9p/KWh £270.64 Total Energy £373.44 Taking off Government rebates thus far = £267, leaving £105 for 4 and a half months, is that £23 per month excluding Standing Charges. I don't think I'll be visiting any scrap yards, anytime soon!!
So what's that got to do with the national grid ? So you run it ?"Maybe I should as I'd be damned sure I wouldn't be racking up £2.5million for two hours over two evenings to pay people not to use electricity. Instead, I'd ask people to help voluntarily and give the cash to charities and funds helping those that can't afford to pay for Energy. Dig For Britain- then again, many have gotten more selfish and arrogant since 1942. SKY News went to the house of a Scheme Volunteer and she's sat in the dark to be paid £3.42. A 5watt LED turned off will earn one and a half pence and 26p for the gas boiler to be off. The intention was cookers, washers, showers, ev chargers etc. Not to sit in darkness for 1.5 pence. | |||
"Just done the meter readings: Gas: Sept 18th: 13561m3 Jan 30th: 13796m3 Consumed: 235m (2,536kwh) @ 4p/kw £101.44 Electricity: Sept 18th: 53052 Jan 30th: 54412 Consumed: 1,360kwh @ 19.9p/KWh £270.64 Total Energy £373.44 Taking off Government rebates thus far = £267, leaving £105 for 4 and a half months, is that £23 per month excluding Standing Charges. I don't think I'll be visiting any scrap yards, anytime soon!!
So what's that got to do with the national grid ? So you run it ?
Maybe I should as I'd be damned sure I wouldn't be racking up £2.5million for two hours over two evenings to pay people not to use electricity.
Instead, I'd ask people to help voluntarily and give the cash to charities and funds helping those that can't afford to pay for Energy.
Dig For Britain- then again, many have gotten more selfish and arrogant since 1942.
SKY News went to the house of a Scheme Volunteer and she's sat in the dark to be paid £3.42.
A 5watt LED turned off will earn one and a half pence and 26p for the gas boiler to be off. The intention was cookers, washers, showers, ev chargers etc.
Not to sit in darkness for 1.5 pence."But you previously boasted about deliberately using as much electricity as possible to rack up a bill for the taxpayer? | |||
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"I'm sure there must be a forum somewhere where people are actually interested in this stuff. " There are and I'm on some. The thing about those are they are full of experts who know what they're doing so ... Facebook's got several groups with facts about this stuff. | |||
"This is the biggest load of scaremongering I’ve ever read x" Scaremongering? If you drive a car on the motorway and the fuel light comes on.. is that scaremongering too or a warning you're about to run out of fuel? UK generation is not meeting 100% demand on cold, non windy days although the lights stay on. However, to give this facade of normality, we are heavily reliant on Europe and Norway to keep our lights on - with no immediate plans to resolve. Even to the point of building in more Gas generation, although I find that abhorrent and excuses to kick Climate change down the road and continue our exposure to volatile gas prices. This weekend, this country was generating 80-84% of demand yet we took the full 4GWh from France- a country being forced to cut back their own demand. Not sure why you find this Scaremongering, there is nothing scary about the reality of not having enough energy available - it's either cut back or have to take turns living with the lights out for a few hours. Personally, I'd prefer government to pull their fingers out their corrupt backsides and start planning more generation to cover our needs at a time of electrification of our legacy Gas Central Heating and Transport. What's the point in having an EV, if you can't charge it? Lights going out for a few hours ain't scary, unless bogeymen worry you. Grab a torch, it'll be fine. https://news.sky.com/story/households-cutting-energy-usage-to-avoid-blackouts-likely-how-well-all-operate-in-future-national-grid-12800828 | |||
"This is the biggest load of scaremongering I’ve ever read x Scaremongering? If you drive a car on the motorway and the fuel light comes on.. is that scaremongering too or a warning you're about to run out of fuel? UK generation is not meeting 100% demand on cold, non windy days although the lights stay on. However, to give this facade of normality, we are heavily reliant on Europe and Norway to keep our lights on - with no immediate plans to resolve. Even to the point of building in more Gas generation, although I find that abhorrent and excuses to kick Climate change down the road and continue our exposure to volatile gas prices. This weekend, this country was generating 80-84% of demand yet we took the full 4GWh from France- a country being forced to cut back their own demand. Not sure why you find this Scaremongering, there is nothing scary about the reality of not having enough energy available - it's either cut back or have to take turns living with the lights out for a few hours. Personally, I'd prefer government to pull their fingers out their corrupt backsides and start planning more generation to cover our needs at a time of electrification of our legacy Gas Central Heating and Transport. What's the point in having an EV, if you can't charge it? Lights going out for a few hours ain't scary, unless bogeymen worry you. Grab a torch, it'll be fine. https://news.sky.com/story/households-cutting-energy-usage-to-avoid-blackouts-likely-how-well-all-operate-in-future-national-grid-12800828 " Seems like you've been predicting disaster since September but it doesn't seem to have happened ? There was always a plan to share generation not just with France but many other countries, it's why so much was spent on interconnectors. It is quite complicated to understand how it works though and it's not unique to winter 2022/23 if you want I'll dig out some figures for the last 20 years or so ? | |||
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