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"Thread got too long so here is part 2... As per posts in the other thread, Brexit is done so there are no more Brexiters/Leavers or Remainers. What we have now are three groups... Brejoiners Bregretters Breleavers (see what I did there) On the point in the other thread about Britain being controlled by foreign governments. Sorry but that is utter crap and shows a complete lack of understanding of how being a member of the EU worked. The UK not only had complete and full involvement over every single rule, regulation, legislation and law in the EU, but the number they voted against is so small you cannot even find a % figure for it. However, we do know that the UK voted in favour of 98% of them and abstained on c.2% (ie it didn’t impact or concern us). Not seeing much foreign control there! In actual fact you could just as easily switch that control argument around and say that the UK’s privileged position (outside Schengen, not in Euro, with a veto) meant we were able to have influence and control over the other 26 member countries! This whole “it’s happened now so just accept it and move on” is analogous to domestic abusers “I know I have hurt you, perhaps permanently damaged you, but that is in the past now, it happened, so time to move on!” That thread (and no doubt this one) also once again shows the juvenile and reductive binary tribalism that has arisen since the Brexit debate kicked in. The footballisation of politics. So using (stretching) the football analogy. Your team, call them the Blues, have been in the Premier League for years and pretty much always come second. Some of the board of directors are convinced the Blues can do better, manage to persuade the fans and have been greedily eyeing up a new manager. They get the new manager who then completely changes the team line up, playing style and format. It all goes terribly wrong and the Blues slip down the Premier League and are now facing relegation. Some of the fans aren’t happy but the others, the ones who had demanded this new manager just tell them to accept it, it’s done, we are where we are. Do you think the fans will just shut up and accept it?" It's more like the blues left the premier League to play in the schoolboy's cup and lost out on the money that's goes with the PL but they will probably win a meaningless trophy every year | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with." Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with." Shhhh don't poke the hornets nest.  | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. " That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. " I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? " It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy." The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). " confused I never said that... your words, interesting. I said.. a nation they only half agree with but going by the survey it's down to 35%, roll on the days when that figure is down to 0.000001%. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). " Obsessed? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). confused I never said that... your words, interesting. I said.. a nation they only half agree with but going by the survey it's down to 35%, roll on the days when that figure is down to 0.000001%." Like you said, the % doesn't matter. Either over half, like you said, 35% like yougov, etc. Doesn't change the reality of brexit. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed?" Yes, some of the leave voters on here post up something along the lines of "you lost, we won" obsessively. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). " Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it " I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. " You want people to shut up and and comply if they disagree with your thread posts. It's brutally honestly clear. Enjoy your dissent. If you feel like it's that much of a bother. Go raid the house of Commons. Seems you not getting anywhere with some people. Except dialogue that proves nothing to you and I rant lol ok. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. You want people to shut up and and comply if they disagree with your thread posts. It's brutally honestly clear. Enjoy your dissent. If you feel like it's that much of a bother. Go raid the house of Commons. Seems you not getting anywhere with some people. Except dialogue that proves nothing to you and I rant lol ok. " Think you've confused me with someone else. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. " I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!!" It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. " Shorting the pound and accounting tax avoidance schemes offshore or in the uk are cheered and applauded in the square mile and all legal today. mrs truss made me a wedge and I still feel clean.  | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. " The Tories sold it off years ago. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!!" Just to be clear. You want me to deal with you being confused about brexit. But also never mention the impact of brexit? Okay. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago." well then why have they been in power since 2010? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? " The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? " Because they're as honest as the day is long & not at all toxic/corrupt/incompetent. Obviously. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful." yes it's great | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful." Tin foil hats block the mind rays. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. Tin foil hats block the mind rays." Are you implying that the Tories are in power for so long because they're doing a good job for British people? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful." It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? " Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive." Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Yes, some of the leave voters on here post up something along the lines of "you lost, we won" obsessively. " To be fair, most of the staunch brexiteers have stopped posting about the successes of brexit, probably embarrassed | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? " Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it?" You the one that mentioned PR not me. I just proving a alternate reality you chose. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. Tin foil hats block the mind rays. Are you implying that the Tories are in power for so long because they're doing a good job for British people?" Office not power, politics is not about people or the benefit of it is all about the party. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it? You the one that mentioned PR not me. I just proving a alternate reality you chose. " Fox News certainly provides alternate reality. You ironically hit the nail on the head there. It's amazing they even get away with calling it news. A study of various media by businessinsider once found Fox News viewers were less informed that people who watched no news at all. Pretty amazing, if you think about it. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it? You the one that mentioned PR not me. I just proving a alternate reality you chose. " You basically called all torrries dumb for their decisions. They cant understand the repercussions because they have more PR. Yet the power structure has been in place for a long freaking time. Obviously they seeing through the smoke and mirrors for what is best for them. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it? You the one that mentioned PR not me. I just proving a alternate reality you chose. You basically called all torrries dumb for their decisions. They cant understand the repercussions because they have more PR. Yet the power structure has been in place for a long freaking time. Obviously they seeing through the smoke and mirrors for what is best for them." Where did I call all Tories dumb? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it? You the one that mentioned PR not me. I just proving a alternate reality you chose. You basically called all torrries dumb for their decisions. They cant understand the repercussions because they have more PR. Yet the power structure has been in place for a long freaking time. Obviously they seeing through the smoke and mirrors for what is best for them." and I rant... Pfft some of you rant in a different way. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it? You the one that mentioned PR not me. I just proving a alternate reality you chose. You basically called all torrries dumb for their decisions. They cant understand the repercussions because they have more PR. Yet the power structure has been in place for a long freaking time. Obviously they seeing through the smoke and mirrors for what is best for them. Where did I call all Tories dumb? " Not directly but you insinuated that the torries have the better PR machine and that people can't make individual choices because of that. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? Why is what? Why is Fox viewed so much? Why not ask their viewers why they watch it? You the one that mentioned PR not me. I just proving a alternate reality you chose. You basically called all torrries dumb for their decisions. They cant understand the repercussions because they have more PR. Yet the power structure has been in place for a long freaking time. Obviously they seeing through the smoke and mirrors for what is best for them. Where did I call all Tories dumb? Not directly but you insinuated that the torries have the better PR machine and that people can't make individual choices because of that." Where did I say that? | |||
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"The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. Your exact words. You blaming the media for people making misinformed decision making." See, this is part of the reason you go wrong on here. You don't read things properly. Then you get angry & confused. Scroll back & look again. I was not the user who said that. | |||
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"The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. Your exact words. You blaming the media for people making misinformed decision making. See, this is part of the reason you go wrong on here. You don't read things properly. Then you get angry & confused. Scroll back & look again. I was not the user who said that." I owe you a apology. sorry. | |||
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"The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. Your exact words. You blaming the media for people making misinformed decision making. See, this is part of the reason you go wrong on here. You don't read things properly. Then you get angry & confused. Scroll back & look again. I was not the user who said that. I owe you a apology. sorry." Thank you. I appreciate that x | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Evening Nobby, I see you're at it again. All of us lost unless you're a billionaire? Utter rubbish. Accept the reality aystop whining about it I have accepted reality thanks. My name isn't Nobby. And I never would want people to shut up and comply. Everyone should express dissent. And yes, we all lost out, unless you own an investment business that moved out of the UK, and shorted the pound. Or hide millions offshore in tax avoidance schemes. I own none of those things, neither am I well off and yet I'm no worse off. Deal with it!!!!!!!! It's crazy what happened to people's self reliance. The Tories sold it off years ago. well then why have they been in power since 2010? The Tories have the support of the media, they are much better funded than all the other parties combined. Their PR machine is powerful. It's kinda bullshit. When fox here is the number 1 media news source. Yet the other party won. You saying we smarter on disseminating information? Fox & Murdoch helped Trump get elected previously. If you think otherwise, you're astonishingly naive. Yet it's still the number one news source. Been for awhile. Even during Bidens campaign and midterms. Why is that? " I don't live in the US, I don't know why fox is the most popular news channel there. Or what this has got to do with anything. | |||
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"I think you have singlehandedly managed to create a thread that's too long. That's quite an achievement. Do you ever think about anything aside from Brexit?" The remain voters , remoaners , the 48% or simply the losers will never move on..... | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with." Less than half! | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Less than half! " Do you think you will live long enough to see any tangible benefits,  | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Less than half! " Finally you said something that makes sense! It's about 35%. Which is ridiculous when you think about it. But they we go. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed?" Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. " Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. " He is obsessed | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. " The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6." That's definitely not true. Sure there is some banter when people use ridiculous arguments like 'Brexit reality isn't real, you lost, it's the fault of remoaners' etc. But that's not putting anyone down, just joining in with their ridiculousness. But those people aren't adding anything to the discussion. When someone attempts a rational/sane defence of brexit, their points are discussed and debunked politely. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6." Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. He is obsessed "Most accurate post on the fab forums award goes to you. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum " So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? " I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. " To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. " Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer." Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me." The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? " I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum." Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. " You might as well talk to the wall! They will keep moaning on and on | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?"Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all. There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind. It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6." That’s not true. I voted remain, accepted the result, don’t think we should re join the EU and honestly want to find a way to make Brexit work better than it does right now . I don’t blame all leave voters for the situation we are in but I can’t understand people who can’t accept that Brexit has been a disaster and those who blame ‘lefties, civil service , remoaners etc etc ‘ | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. You might as well talk to the wall! They will keep moaning on and on " As exampled here. Thank you. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster. "I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative. As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change. The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous. Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing."I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed. This site is the epicenter of brexit believers. I have no opinion about people digging in their heels. And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping. "There goes that self-righteousness again
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing."That is the type of people they are self righteous & arrogant unless the world supports their views or outlooks.. Oh we are laughing just at the meltdowns | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
"Brilliant! Same time tomorrow I guess when there will be another anti brexit post | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
"Actually this thread has turned into more of a debate now.
I voted to leave the EU and still very happy I did.
And yes one of the many reasons was I'm against free movement within the EU. In my view before you ask and I know you will is because I don't like the idea.! | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
"Try addressing the points instead of attacking the person. This is all a bit meta anyway, and not that interesting. People talk about brexit. Leavers complain about people talking about brexit and insult them. I point out that they are just as bad by complaining about people who talk about brexit. You're complaining that I point out that people complaining about others who talk about brexit are being silly. It's silly. In my opinion. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Actually this thread has turned into more of a debate now.
I voted to leave the EU and still very happy I did.
And yes one of the many reasons was I'm against free movement within the EU. In my view before you ask and I know you will is because I don't like the idea.! "This is a good response. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Actually this thread has turned into more of a debate now.
I voted to leave the EU and still very happy I did.
And yes one of the many reasons was I'm against free movement within the EU. In my view before you ask and I know you will is because I don't like the idea.! "Fair enough, do you think we have seen any benefits (from stopping freedom of movement) ? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Brilliant! Same time tomorrow I guess when there will be another anti brexit post "Brilliant! Same time tomorrow I guess when there will be another slew of responses to criticism of brexit with mindless insults and meaningless catchphrases. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Try addressing the points instead of attacking the person.
This is all a bit meta anyway, and not that interesting.
People talk about brexit. Leavers complain about people talking about brexit and insult them. I point out that they are just as bad by complaining about people who talk about brexit. You're complaining that I point out that people complaining about others who talk about brexit are being silly. It's silly. In my opinion."I'm not complaining about anything. I'm trying to help you understand why people dig their heels in | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Try addressing the points instead of attacking the person.
This is all a bit meta anyway, and not that interesting.
People talk about brexit. Leavers complain about people talking about brexit and insult them. I point out that they are just as bad by complaining about people who talk about brexit. You're complaining that I point out that people complaining about others who talk about brexit are being silly. It's silly. In my opinion.
I'm not complaining about anything. I'm trying to help you understand why people dig their heels in"I'm comfortable with people digging their heels in. | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Try addressing the points instead of attacking the person.
This is all a bit meta anyway, and not that interesting.
People talk about brexit. Leavers complain about people talking about brexit and insult them. I point out that they are just as bad by complaining about people who talk about brexit. You're complaining that I point out that people complaining about others who talk about brexit are being silly. It's silly. In my opinion.
I'm not complaining about anything. I'm trying to help you understand why people dig their heels in
I'm comfortable with people digging their heels in.
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Try addressing the points instead of attacking the person.
This is all a bit meta anyway, and not that interesting.
People talk about brexit. Leavers complain about people talking about brexit and insult them. I point out that they are just as bad by complaining about people who talk about brexit. You're complaining that I point out that people complaining about others who talk about brexit are being silly. It's silly. In my opinion.
I'm not complaining about anything. I'm trying to help you understand why people dig their heels in
I'm comfortable with people digging their heels in.
Are you really? Your replies suggest otherwise "This feels like a never ending circle. Can we just say you've won. And we can try to hack back the layers of meta complaining and get back to Brexit? | |||
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"Some remainers are still shell shocked that they live in a nation they only half agree with. Are you really saying that half of the nation think that Brexit is great, despite reality? Bit patronising. Although the recent yougov survey suggested that upto 35% of people are still clinging tight to the brexit unicorn. That figure could be 0.0000001 %. The UK is not re joining th eu anytime soon. I agree. What's this got to do with your point about half the people still being confused about brexit? It was s democratic referendum it is not about winning its about democracy. The leave campaigns were both illegally funded, undermining democracy. I'm glad you appear to be one of the leavers who isn't obsessed with "we won, you lost" bullshit. Because we all know, that all of us lost (unless you're a billionaire, which is an assumption I am making). Obsessed? Of course they are obsessed! Another day another anti brexit post by one of the usual five or six who rant shout and scream the same comments as they did in the last thread and the one before and the one before that. Most brexit threads are full of posts from you complaining that people are discussing brexit. The thing is you do not discuss. Rather it's more put down anyone who disagree with your opinion. That applies to all the usually 5 or 6. Of course they don’t discuss brexit. With maybe one exception the other children just have tantrum after tantrum So discussion on the impact of brexit is 'children having tantrums'. But constantly complaining about people discussing brexit is somehow righteous and noble? I think the point they're making is that yourself and a few others don't actually bring anything new to the table and just bemoan the same old stuff. You make childish comments and don't add anything towards the debate. To me, it sounds like you're describing the "we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their necks in" contingent. Does it? I'd ask you this. Who starts these threads that don't tell us anything new? You'll find your answer. Various people start threads. Does that somehow legitimise the 'we won, you lost, remoaners should wind their neck in' types? Seems unrelated to me. The same people pretty much always start Brexit threads. Im offering you a perspective, if you don't want to see it, that's proves what I'm trying to tell you. Of course, you don't have to agree, i wouldn't expect you to. But, your asking people to stop using that argument, maybe have a look in the mirror at the same time. What are you going to change by pointing out Brexit negatives all the time? I'm not expecting anyone to stop anything. I'm merely pointing out that a number of people constantly complain about others discussing brexit. And never add anything in the way of engagement in the conversation. Nothing on these forums archives anything. No one who thinks brexit was a good idea is going to change their mind no matter how much they learn about the real life impact of brexit. It's all just a load of nonsense down here. In conclusion, if those people voted to make the country poorer, to damage British businesses and to remove our freedom of movement within the EU. Surely they can handle some meaningless brexit banter on a swingers forum. Are you sure no one will change their minds? You like to point out that only 35% of people still think Brexit is a good idea. That means 17% of people changed their minds already
BTW, is it banter or is it bullying?
Hang on, I was agreeing with you on the pointlessness of it all.
There could be any number of reasons for that change in %, the yougov survey represents the entire population, not just the people old enough and engaged enough to vote in 2016. Maybe the demographics have changed since 2016. But I guess what I meant is, if someone now is still hanging on to the brexit dream, no information will change their mind.
It's banter if the points are made fun of, it's bullying if the person is attacked. People who think brexit is a good idea rarely address the points, and consistently attack the poster.
I don't see many on here who still say Brexit is a good idea. And even if they do, that's their prerogative.
As I've said before, your best option now is to get on with life, nothing is going to change.
The constant 'Brexit is shit', 'they knew what they were voting for' and 'project fear looks like project reality' smells of 'I told you so'. It does nothing but make those people dig their heels in even further. It also looks very self-righteous.
Why do you think these people are laughing at you? I promise you they're laughing.
I've no idea why people are laughing at those who understand brexit. Maybe they're just embarrassed.
This site is the epicenter of brexit believers.
I have no opinion about people digging in their heels.
And how is the country supposed to move forward when the politicians and a significant % of the population are still pretending everything is fine with brexit. It's creating problems that need addressing. Burying our heads in the sand and lashing out at "remoaners" isn't helping.
There goes that self-righteousness again
Try addressing the points instead of attacking the person.
This is all a bit meta anyway, and not that interesting.
People talk about brexit. Leavers complain about people talking about brexit and insult them. I point out that they are just as bad by complaining about people who talk about brexit. You're complaining that I point out that people complaining about others who talk about brexit are being silly. It's silly. In my opinion.
I'm not complaining about anything. I'm trying to help you understand why people dig their heels in
I'm comfortable with people digging their heels in.
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"Rejoining has issues as the EU has moved on with new taxes such as a new carbon tax on fuel and heating which is part of reason even the Lib Dem leader has been quiet on rejoin as it’s going to be a hard sell." Rejoining the EU is definitely not a quick fix for all the problems the country is facing right now. In my opinion, it would be a useful exercise to explore what the opinions would be, what would rejoining mean, what deal would we get, what impact would that have on UK businesses etc. | |||
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"Rejoining has issues as the EU has moved on with new taxes such as a new carbon tax on fuel and heating which is part of reason even the Lib Dem leader has been quiet on rejoin as it’s going to be a hard sell. Rejoining the EU is definitely not a quick fix for all the problems the country is facing right now. In my opinion, it would be a useful exercise to explore what the opinions would be, what would rejoining mean, what deal would we get, what impact would that have on UK businesses etc. " The deal can only be good as last member who joined as offering the UK a special deal would cause issues with other member states wanting a better deal which means the UK would have to sign up to everything. The other best option which I thought would happen but got blocked by a unholy alliance of hard brexit mps and hard remain mps is joining EFTA/EEA. | |||
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"Rejoining has issues as the EU has moved on with new taxes such as a new carbon tax on fuel and heating which is part of reason even the Lib Dem leader has been quiet on rejoin as it’s going to be a hard sell. Rejoining the EU is definitely not a quick fix for all the problems the country is facing right now. In my opinion, it would be a useful exercise to explore what the opinions would be, what would rejoining mean, what deal would we get, what impact would that have on UK businesses etc. The deal can only be good as last member who joined as offering the UK a special deal would cause issues with other member states wanting a better deal which means the UK would have to sign up to everything. The other best option which I thought would happen but got blocked by a unholy alliance of hard brexit mps and hard remain mps is joining EFTA/EEA." You're right, that option should be fully explored. In my opinion. | |||
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"Rejoining has issues as the EU has moved on with new taxes such as a new carbon tax on fuel and heating which is part of reason even the Lib Dem leader has been quiet on rejoin as it’s going to be a hard sell." So if the UK was still in the EU the UK population would now be paying these new taxes? It's a bloody good job the UK left in my opinion.! | |||
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"Rejoining has issues as the EU has moved on with new taxes such as a new carbon tax on fuel and heating which is part of reason even the Lib Dem leader has been quiet on rejoin as it’s going to be a hard sell. So if the UK was still in the EU the UK population would now be paying these new taxes? It's a bloody good job the UK left in my opinion.!" The UK could have voted against them | |||
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"Rejoining has issues as the EU has moved on with new taxes such as a new carbon tax on fuel and heating which is part of reason even the Lib Dem leader has been quiet on rejoin as it’s going to be a hard sell. So if the UK was still in the EU the UK population would now be paying these new taxes? It's a bloody good job the UK left in my opinion.! The UK could have voted against them "The UK could have voted against but then likely get fined for missing Climate change targets. | |||
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"Its funny and ironic to some extent that people blame Brexit for our economic mess but heard that the UK grew 4% in the whole of 2022, bigger then Germany who's suppose to be the bread and butter of the EU? Not saying Brexit isnt causing issues on things in the cointry but its not the main reason why things are tough at the moment. " This is the stop banging your head against the wall argument. The UK damaged its own economy horrifically with Brexit. Then managed to recover a small % of the loss, and is now celebrating the "growth". | |||
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"Its funny and ironic to some extent that people blame Brexit for our economic mess but heard that the UK grew 4% in the whole of 2022, bigger then Germany who's suppose to be the bread and butter of the EU? Not saying Brexit isnt causing issues on things in the cointry but its not the main reason why things are tough at the moment. This is the stop banging your head against the wall argument. The UK damaged its own economy horrifically with Brexit. Then managed to recover a small % of the loss, and is now celebrating the "growth"." Well there is a war and there was a pandemic. Any growth is good news. | |||
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"Its funny and ironic to some extent that people blame Brexit for our economic mess but heard that the UK grew 4% in the whole of 2022, bigger then Germany who's suppose to be the bread and butter of the EU? Not saying Brexit isnt causing issues on things in the cointry but its not the main reason why things are tough at the moment. This is the stop banging your head against the wall argument. The UK damaged its own economy horrifically with Brexit. Then managed to recover a small % of the loss, and is now celebrating the "growth". Well there is a war and there was a pandemic. Any growth is good news. " Not so much when it's in context. Like I said, your head not feeling as bad when you stop smashing it against the wall, is less good than not banging it into the wall in the first place. | |||
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"Its funny and ironic to some extent that people blame Brexit for our economic mess but heard that the UK grew 4% in the whole of 2022, bigger then Germany who's suppose to be the bread and butter of the EU? Not saying Brexit isnt causing issues on things in the cointry but its not the main reason why things are tough at the moment. This is the stop banging your head against the wall argument. The UK damaged its own economy horrifically with Brexit. Then managed to recover a small % of the loss, and is now celebrating the "growth". Well there is a war and there was a pandemic. Any growth is good news. Not so much when it's in context. Like I said, your head not feeling as bad when you stop smashing it against the wall, is less good than not banging it into the wall in the first place. " But smashing one's head against a hard object is a free choice, in relegion it is acceptable. | |||
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"Rejoining has issues as the EU has moved on with new taxes such as a new carbon tax on fuel and heating which is part of reason even the Lib Dem leader has been quiet on rejoin as it’s going to be a hard sell." It's an on going process as in many places. I see a story a little while ago that over 25000 new laws have been introduced since brexit ( did not read into it so not sure if they mean the referendum date or actually leaving). Apparently 25 of the 27 members have been in breach of laws, some multiple times. | |||
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"A civilised debate devoid of insults (or banter) would be nice once in a while. But then insults and banter go hand in hand with the footballisation so to be expected I guess!" With the six nations on going it would focus the debate on rugbyisation were it is sorted out on the pitch. | |||
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"Thread got too long so here is part 2... As per posts in the other thread, Brexit is done so there are no more Brexiters/Leavers or Remainers. What we have now are three groups... Brejoiners Bregretters Breleavers (see what I did there) On the point in the other thread about Britain being controlled by foreign governments. Sorry but that is utter crap and shows a complete lack of understanding of how being a member of the EU worked. The UK not only had complete and full involvement over every single rule, regulation, legislation and law in the EU, but the number they voted against is so small you cannot even find a % figure for it. However, we do know that the UK voted in favour of 98% of them and abstained on c.2% (ie it didn’t impact or concern us). Not seeing much foreign control there! In actual fact you could just as easily switch that control argument around and say that the UK’s privileged position (outside Schengen, not in Euro, with a veto) meant we were able to have influence and control over the other 26 member countries! This whole “it’s happened now so just accept it and move on” is analogous to domestic abusers “I know I have hurt you, perhaps permanently damaged you, but that is in the past now, it happened, so time to move on!” That thread (and no doubt this one) also once again shows the juvenile and reductive binary tribalism that has arisen since the Brexit debate kicked in. The footballisation of politics. So using (stretching) the football analogy. Your team, call them the Blues, have been in the Premier League for years and pretty much always come second. Some of the board of directors are convinced the Blues can do better, manage to persuade the fans and have been greedily eyeing up a new manager. They get the new manager who then completely changes the team line up, playing style and format. It all goes terribly wrong and the Blues slip down the Premier League and are now facing relegation. Some of the fans aren’t happy but the others, the ones who had demanded this new manager just tell them to accept it, it’s done, we are where we are. Do you think the fans will just shut up and accept it?" At what point is the EU parliament Erected and a full democracy. And if it was why would you need Westminster. One had to go not saying the right one went but to meny levels of control just increases coast and waste. Parish Council, Town Council, Country Council, Uk parliament, EU parliament, The town Council only wanted to put up a notice board but EU said it had to be assessable to all so would cost to much so never happens. | |||
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"Thread got too long so here is part 2... As per posts in the other thread, Brexit is done so there are no more Brexiters/Leavers or Remainers. What we have now are three groups... Brejoiners Bregretters Breleavers (see what I did there) On the point in the other thread about Britain being controlled by foreign governments. Sorry but that is utter crap and shows a complete lack of understanding of how being a member of the EU worked. The UK not only had complete and full involvement over every single rule, regulation, legislation and law in the EU, but the number they voted against is so small you cannot even find a % figure for it. However, we do know that the UK voted in favour of 98% of them and abstained on c.2% (ie it didn’t impact or concern us). Not seeing much foreign control there! In actual fact you could just as easily switch that control argument around and say that the UK’s privileged position (outside Schengen, not in Euro, with a veto) meant we were able to have influence and control over the other 26 member countries! This whole “it’s happened now so just accept it and move on” is analogous to domestic abusers “I know I have hurt you, perhaps permanently damaged you, but that is in the past now, it happened, so time to move on!” That thread (and no doubt this one) also once again shows the juvenile and reductive binary tribalism that has arisen since the Brexit debate kicked in. The footballisation of politics. So using (stretching) the football analogy. Your team, call them the Blues, have been in the Premier League for years and pretty much always come second. Some of the board of directors are convinced the Blues can do better, manage to persuade the fans and have been greedily eyeing up a new manager. They get the new manager who then completely changes the team line up, playing style and format. It all goes terribly wrong and the Blues slip down the Premier League and are now facing relegation. Some of the fans aren’t happy but the others, the ones who had demanded this new manager just tell them to accept it, it’s done, we are where we are. Do you think the fans will just shut up and accept it?" Trouble is we only had about 7% of the total vote in the EU parliament. Plus the laws are made by the EU commission, a body of unelected individuals, one from each country. They make the laws. The EU parliament votes yes or no to laws, sometimes two or three per minute. The simple fact is that while in the EU you don't make your laws, you have little influence overall ,you cannot make your own trade deals around the world, that is done by the EU, and you have zero control over your borders. Wtf should we parly with other countries about how we run our country? Our laws should be made by our elected representatives. In the EU your representatives do NOT make the laws. They can only vote for or against and your vote overall is a small percentage. The eu was designed deliberately to be undemocratic. Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles, making Britain fail so they can say look how wonderful the eu is,let's rejoin. They've humped up corporation tax to drive away business. They have done nothing to promote us. They've just racked up debt,spent too much,printed too much and that's what causes inflation. They are... Traitors. | |||
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"Its funny and ironic to some extent that people blame Brexit for our economic mess but heard that the UK grew 4% in the whole of 2022, bigger then Germany who's suppose to be the bread and butter of the EU? Not saying Brexit isnt causing issues on things in the cointry but its not the main reason why things are tough at the moment. " Lol, growing 4% from a base level lower than since the second world war isn't much of an achievement. Many other countries didn't fall so far so quickly thats all It's funny to watch people struggling to come to terms with the fact that they were conned into voting for something so bad they can't come up with a single solitary benefit that will be achieved in the next generation. Maybe it's time to put down the shovel and stop digging and start rebuilding the brexiteers have a huge debt to repay. | |||
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"Its funny and ironic to some extent that people blame Brexit for our economic mess but heard that the UK grew 4% in the whole of 2022, bigger then Germany who's suppose to be the bread and butter of the EU? Not saying Brexit isnt causing issues on things in the cointry but its not the main reason why things are tough at the moment. Lol, growing 4% from a base level lower than since the second world war isn't much of an achievement. Many other countries didn't fall so far so quickly thats all It's funny to watch people struggling to come to terms with the fact that they were conned into voting for something so bad they can't come up with a single solitary benefit that will be achieved in the next generation. Maybe it's time to put down the shovel and stop digging and start rebuilding the brexiteers have a huge debt to repay." Oh look another remoaner | |||
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The UK could have voted against but then likely get fined for missing Climate change targets."Likely?? Like I said, they could have voted against them | |||
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"Thread got too long so here is part 2... As per posts in the other thread, Brexit is done so there are no more Brexiters/Leavers or Remainers. What we have now are three groups... Brejoiners Bregretters Breleavers (see what I did there) On the point in the other thread about Britain being controlled by foreign governments. Sorry but that is utter crap and shows a complete lack of understanding of how being a member of the EU worked. The UK not only had complete and full involvement over every single rule, regulation, legislation and law in the EU, but the number they voted against is so small you cannot even find a % figure for it. However, we do know that the UK voted in favour of 98% of them and abstained on c.2% (ie it didn’t impact or concern us). Not seeing much foreign control there! In actual fact you could just as easily switch that control argument around and say that the UK’s privileged position (outside Schengen, not in Euro, with a veto) meant we were able to have influence and control over the other 26 member countries! This whole “it’s happened now so just accept it and move on” is analogous to domestic abusers “I know I have hurt you, perhaps permanently damaged you, but that is in the past now, it happened, so time to move on!” That thread (and no doubt this one) also once again shows the juvenile and reductive binary tribalism that has arisen since the Brexit debate kicked in. The footballisation of politics. So using (stretching) the football analogy. Your team, call them the Blues, have been in the Premier League for years and pretty much always come second. Some of the board of directors are convinced the Blues can do better, manage to persuade the fans and have been greedily eyeing up a new manager. They get the new manager who then completely changes the team line up, playing style and format. It all goes terribly wrong and the Blues slip down the Premier League and are now facing relegation. Some of the fans aren’t happy but the others, the ones who had demanded this new manager just tell them to accept it, it’s done, we are where we are. Do you think the fans will just shut up and accept it? Trouble is we only had about 7% of the total vote in the EU parliament. Plus the laws are made by the EU commission, a body of unelected individuals, one from each country. They make the laws. The EU parliament votes yes or no to laws, sometimes two or three per minute. The simple fact is that while in the EU you don't make your laws, you have little influence overall ,you cannot make your own trade deals around the world, that is done by the EU, and you have zero control over your borders. Wtf should we parly with other countries about how we run our country? Our laws should be made by our elected representatives. In the EU your representatives do NOT make the laws. They can only vote for or against and your vote overall is a small percentage. The eu was designed deliberately to be undemocratic. Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles, making Britain fail so they can say look how wonderful the eu is,let's rejoin. They've humped up corporation tax to drive away business. They have done nothing to promote us. They've just racked up debt,spent too much,printed too much and that's what causes inflation. They are... Traitors. " It is what you voted for | |||
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"I was told the UK was better before we joined the EU. I cant agree or disagree as I wasnt around when the UK joined in 1973" The UK joined a trading group in 1973, the European Economic Community. The EU wasn't created until November 1993. | |||
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"Its funny and ironic to some extent that people blame Brexit for our economic mess but heard that the UK grew 4% in the whole of 2022, bigger then Germany who's suppose to be the bread and butter of the EU? Not saying Brexit isnt causing issues on things in the cointry but its not the main reason why things are tough at the moment. Lol, growing 4% from a base level lower than since the second world war isn't much of an achievement. Many other countries didn't fall so far so quickly thats all It's funny to watch people struggling to come to terms with the fact that they were conned into voting for something so bad they can't come up with a single solitary benefit that will be achieved in the next generation. Maybe it's time to put down the shovel and stop digging and start rebuilding the brexiteers have a huge debt to repay. Oh look another remoaner" Wow what an original reply, a better reply night have been a list of genuine benefits of brexit that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that remoaners are wrong .. but no .... That's never going to happen | |||
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"It's funny to watch people struggling to come to terms with the fact that they were conned into voting for something so bad they can't come up with a single solitary benefit that will be achieved in the next generation." In the previous thread people quoted Brexit benefits that have already been achieved. There were also examples of further benefits that could be achieved in the next 20 years. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted " Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer." It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money." Liberty? | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money." No it's wasn't and no it isn't lol Note from teacher : Must try harder | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer." From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. | |||
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"I was told the UK was better before we joined the EU. I cant agree or disagree as I wasnt around when the UK joined in 1973" Britain didn’t join the EU in 1973. It joined the EEC. Prior to joining the UK was called the sick man (economy) of Europe. Being in the EEC hugely benefitted the UK pushing us to being the 2nd biggest economy in Europe and 5th in the World. Since leaving the EU we are now declining. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. " Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles " I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work." So 2 million Brits left over what time scale. And how meany EU came to the UK and from what countries. You say UK citizens benifit for being in the EU can I ask HOW | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. So 2 million Brits left over what time scale. And how meany EU came to the UK and from what countries. You say UK citizens benifit for being in the EU can I ask HOW " They were able to retire in the sunshine and 100s of thousands worked in the EU | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. So 2 million Brits left over what time scale. And how meany EU came to the UK and from what countries. You say UK citizens benifit for being in the EU can I ask HOW They were able to retire in the sunshine and 100s of thousands worked in the EU "I get 100s of thousands worked in the EU but if 100s of millions came to work in the UK that's an in ballance | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. So 2 million Brits left over what time scale. And how meany EU came to the UK and from what countries. You say UK citizens benifit for being in the EU can I ask HOW They were able to retire in the sunshine and 100s of thousands worked in the EU
I get 100s of thousands worked in the EU but if 100s of millions came to work in the UK that's an in ballance "100s of millions didn’t come to the UK , and I doubt their are many Spaniards who retired here | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. So 2 million Brits left over what time scale. And how meany EU came to the UK and from what countries. You say UK citizens benifit for being in the EU can I ask HOW They were able to retire in the sunshine and 100s of thousands worked in the EU
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work." Yes I get how it works but unsure how saying closing the boarders in the time of covid helps explain to the poster who is not so keen on freedom of movement. Unless there is another pandemic or similar then freedom of movement will continue. If I understand the other poster correctly, they are happy it's gone. Apologies if I got that wrong | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. Yes I get how it works but unsure how saying closing the boarders in the time of covid helps explain to the poster who is not so keen on freedom of movement. Unless there is another pandemic or similar then freedom of movement will continue. If I understand the other poster correctly, they are happy it's gone. Apologies if I got that wrong" Sorry Leroy I was making more of a general comment rather than a direct reply to you. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. So 2 million Brits left over what time scale. And how meany EU came to the UK and from what countries. You say UK citizens benifit for being in the EU can I ask HOW They were able to retire in the sunshine and 100s of thousands worked in the EU
I get 100s of thousands worked in the EU but if 100s of millions came to work in the UK that's an in ballance "Population of UK is c.67million. Wonder where all those 100s of millions were hiding all that time? Their own countries must have been pretty empty too! | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. Yes I get how it works but unsure how saying closing the boarders in the time of covid helps explain to the poster who is not so keen on freedom of movement. Unless there is another pandemic or similar then freedom of movement will continue. If I understand the other poster correctly, they are happy it's gone. Apologies if I got that wrong" The point is, countries within the EU can control their borders if the need arises. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. So 2 million Brits left over what time scale. And how meany EU came to the UK and from what countries. You say UK citizens benifit for being in the EU can I ask HOW They were able to retire in the sunshine and 100s of thousands worked in the EU
I get 100s of thousands worked in the EU but if 100s of millions came to work in the UK that's an in ballance
Population of UK is c.67million. Wonder where all those 100s of millions were hiding all that time? Their own countries must have been pretty empty too!"Shocking news (if true). | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. No it's wasn't and no it isn't lol Note from teacher : Must try harder " Explain. What was it about then Einstein ? I voted for freedom and self determination. What did you vote for? Subservience? | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty? "What are you laughing at fatso? | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing. "Look more closely at their track record brain of Britain. You have no counter argument, just pithy smart arse comments. Come and argue with me europhile. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
"Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU. Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck. The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues. " brain of Britain. " Erm.... " You have no counter argument, " See above " just pithy smart arse comments. " Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect? " Come and argue with me europhile. " Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline. "Wtf is climate change? Give me a clear definition. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?"You seem very angry, anyway, Liberty ‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’ How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020? | |||
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"Good thing that we didn't join the Euro as a currency because believe me that would lead to a lower standard of living" How so? I lived in Eurozone countries most of my adult life. It was all good. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline. "No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!? Eejits. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
Wtf is climate change?
Give me a clear definition. "Fair cop. I should have said "Anthropogenic climate change", but most people know it as "climate change". It is the human impact on Earth's climate. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits."The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?
You seem very angry, anyway,
Liberty
‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’
How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020? "It means they doesn't pass laws that override ours. How's that for starters? Folk like you have this disdain for freedom and love affair with the state running your life. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes."What's wrong with CO2? | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?
You seem very angry, anyway,
Liberty
‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’
How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020?
It means they doesn't pass laws that override ours. How's that for starters?
Folk like you have this disdain for freedom and love affair with the state running your life.
"Try again, and this time read the question, how has it improved for you since January 31st 2020 | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?
You seem very angry, anyway,
Liberty
‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’
How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020?
It means they doesn't pass laws that override ours. How's that for starters?
Folk like you have this disdain for freedom and love affair with the state running your life.
"You know the "they" also included "us" prior to Brexit? | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?
You seem very angry, anyway,
Liberty
‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’
How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020?
It means they doesn't pass laws that override ours. How's that for starters?
Folk like you have this disdain for freedom and love affair with the state running your life.
Try again, and this time read the question, how has it improved for you since January 31st 2020 "Don't yell me what to do Ivan. I answered your question. You clearly cannot see it. Read boy,think, read...... | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?"Nothing is wrong with CO2. There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity. "What's wrong with the level? This should be good. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?
You seem very angry, anyway,
Liberty
‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’
How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020?
It means they doesn't pass laws that override ours. How's that for starters?
Folk like you have this disdain for freedom and love affair with the state running your life.
Try again, and this time read the question, how has it improved for you since January 31st 2020
Don't yell me what to do Ivan. I answered your question. You clearly cannot see it.
Read boy,think, read......"Chill and becool , I will try again, you know have your liberty, what can ‘you’ do now that ‘you’ couldn’t do before | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. Yes I get how it works but unsure how saying closing the boarders in the time of covid helps explain to the poster who is not so keen on freedom of movement. Unless there is another pandemic or similar then freedom of movement will continue. If I understand the other poster correctly, they are happy it's gone. Apologies if I got that wrong Sorry Leroy I was making more of a general comment rather than a direct reply to you." | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?
You seem very angry, anyway,
Liberty
‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’
How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020?
It means they doesn't pass laws that override ours. How's that for starters?
Folk like you have this disdain for freedom and love affair with the state running your life.
Try again, and this time read the question, how has it improved for you since January 31st 2020
Don't yell me what to do Ivan. I answered your question. You clearly cannot see it.
Read boy,think, read......
Chill and becool , I will try again, you know have your liberty, what can ‘you’ do now that ‘you’ couldn’t do before "Oh ffs ,think. Are you so challenged? And stop giving orders Ivan. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. It's not about making us better off, it's about liberty not money. Liberty?
What are you laughing at fatso?
You seem very angry, anyway,
Liberty
‘the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views’
How has this improved (personally ) since January 31st 2020?
It means they doesn't pass laws that override ours. How's that for starters?
Folk like you have this disdain for freedom and love affair with the state running your life.
Try again, and this time read the question, how has it improved for you since January 31st 2020
Don't yell me what to do Ivan. I answered your question. You clearly cannot see it.
Read boy,think, read......
Chill and becool , I will try again, you know have your liberty, what can ‘you’ do now that ‘you’ couldn’t do before
Oh ffs ,think. Are you so challenged?
And stop giving orders Ivan."Just becool, you’re getting excited, don’t worry if you can’t answer the question | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good."When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles). This is definitely not good. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good."Wtf??? CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas. And why just man made? And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer? The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2. CO2 means life. Green plants love it. Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west. People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families. Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal. Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty. Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved? I can't think if one. Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything? | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???
CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas.
And why just man made?
And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer?
The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2.
CO2 means life. Green plants love it.
Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west.
People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families.
Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal.
Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty.
Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved?
I can't think if one.
Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything?
"Cruel baxters? You’re very angry for someone who has just been liberated | |||
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"So what if the Earth gets a bit warmer? Here's an experiment for that chap. Melt an ice cube & see what happens..." Explain why low lying islands in the Pacific have grown or stayed the same. That's 86% in total. You're losing hahahaha.... | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???
CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas.
And why just man made?
And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer?
The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2.
CO2 means life. Green plants love it.
Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west.
People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families.
Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal.
Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty.
Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved?
I can't think if one.
Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything?
Cruel baxters? You’re very angry for someone who has just been liberated "You're rumbled chubby. You and your 3 girlfriends hahahaha. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???
CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas.
And why just man made?
And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer?
The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2.
CO2 means life. Green plants love it.
Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west.
People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families.
Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal.
Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty.
Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved?
I can't think if one.
Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything?
Cruel baxters? You’re very angry for someone who has just been liberated
You're rumbled chubby. You and your 3 girlfriends hahahaha. "Just becool, I like having 3 girlfriends | |||
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"So what if the Earth gets a bit warmer? Here's an experiment for that chap. Melt an ice cube & see what happens... Explain why low lying islands in the Pacific have grown or stayed the same. That's 86% in total. You're losing hahahaha...." On the laughing gas, are you? We're all losing. That's rather the problem with this whole anthropogenic climate change thing. On the island thing, I assume you read a conpsiracy theory somewhere. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???
CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas.
And why just man made?
And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer?
The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2.
CO2 means life. Green plants love it.
Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west.
People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families.
Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal.
Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty.
Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved?
I can't think if one.
Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything?
Cruel baxters? You’re very angry for someone who has just been liberated
You're rumbled chubby. You and your 3 girlfriends hahahaha.
Just becool, I like having 3 girlfriends "Nah,you're a pillock. Drift ya fanny. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???
CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas.
And why just man made?
And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer?
The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2.
CO2 means life. Green plants love it.
Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west.
People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families.
Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal.
Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty.
Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved?
I can't think if one.
Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything?
Cruel baxters? You’re very angry for someone who has just been liberated
You're rumbled chubby. You and your 3 girlfriends hahahaha. "You know insults of other users are rather frowned upon here. Just letting you know, my friend. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???
CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas.
And why just man made?
And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer?
The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2.
CO2 means life. Green plants love it.
Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west.
People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families.
Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal.
Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty.
Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved?
I can't think if one.
Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything?
Cruel baxters? You’re very angry for someone who has just been liberated
You're rumbled chubby. You and your 3 girlfriends hahahaha.
Just becool, I like having 3 girlfriends
Nah,you're a pillock.
Drift ya fanny. " | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???"Lets take this one at a time " CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas. " CO2 makes up about 76% of greenhouses gas emmissions. " And why just man made? " It's not mad made, it's produced when fossil fuels that have been stored underground for millions of years are burned, releasing the CO2 into the atmosphere " And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer? " The impact of the climate warming is vast, it causes extreme weather events, drought, etc etc, which impacts people, and other animal species that cannot adapt to the very rapid changes " The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2. " This is grossly inaccurate in every way " CO2 means life. Green plants love it. " This is over simplification, plants love an appropriate level of CO2. Plants can survive with more or less, but they cannot survive extreme drought caused by climate change. " Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west. People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families. Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal. Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty. Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved? I can't think if one. Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything? " I can't make head nor tail of this last bit. It just honestly sounds like you're confused and angry at the same time. | |||
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". Sunak, Hunt and the Tories ( green socialist zealots now) are rabid europhiles I missed this one. You win Fab for the day. Amazing.
Look more closely at their track record
Sunak - campaigned for and voted to leave the EU.
Hunt - voted remain, is committed to the brexit clusterfuck.
The current government is catastrophically failing to address climate change and other environmental issues.
brain of Britain.
Erm....
You have no counter argument,
See above
just pithy smart arse comments.
Fair enough, but if you post such rubbish, what do you expect?
Come and argue with me europhile.
Are you offering to fight me? This is pretty funny. But alas, thank you I'll decline.
No doubt you think the ocezns are boiling and we need to get CO2 out of the atmosphere!?
Eejits.
The oceans aren't boiling. But we do need to reduce the amount of CO2 (amongst other greenhouse gasses) that we are pumping into the atmosphere yes.
What's wrong with CO2?
Nothing is wrong with CO2.
There is however something wrong with levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing rapidly through human activity.
What's wrong with the level?
This should be good.
When the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. It traps more light from the sun in the form of heat, reradiating it back down to the surface, warming the planet, extremely rapidly (compared to natural climate cycles).
This is definitely not good.
Wtf???
CO2 is 3% of all greenhouse gas.
And why just man made?
And so what if the earth gets a bit warmer?
The earth is 15% greener than it was in 2000, crop yield up, more trees....no I think we need more CO2.
CO2 means life. Green plants love it.
Itjyzt a money grab and an attempt to wreck the west.
People are finf8it impossible to hear their homes,fill their cars, feed their families.
Honestly, you green seals really are cruel baxters. You have this hatred for mankind. It's borderline genocidal.
Stop restricting peoples lives. Give us liberty.
Does anyone know a time when liberty was taken and the state dictated and the quality if people's lives improved?
I can't think if one.
Ffs leave people alone. It's more state more globalization, more control. Just get out of peoples lives and leave them alone. Wtf did the state ever fix anything?
Cruel baxters? You’re very angry for someone who has just been liberated
You're rumbled chubby. You and your 3 girlfriends hahahaha.
You know insults of other users are rather frowned upon here. Just letting you know, my friend."It’s fine, he is angry and confused, Brexit hasn’t given him the liberty he was hoping for, sad to see | |||
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"Back to the OP. I don't necessarily think rejoining the EU is the answer. But it should be explored as an option. Scope out how it would work for real. Basically the opposite of what the leavers did. With no plan or idea." In the short/medium term we need closer allignment in some sense. Clearly. | |||
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"The benefits of Brexit (from a neutral point of viewl is: The UK gets to control their own borders (the UK couldnt do that under Freedom of Movement rules in the EU) The UK gets to have better trade relationships with other countries outside the EU that suits their needs (as a member of the EU, the UK could not have its own trade policy that suited them) Don't have to spend billions of money on EU membership The UK gets to get rid of EU Buarocracy that were very restricted Strangely enough several EU countries closed their borders during COVID I've yet to see any reasonable example of trade agreements outside the EU that are mor beneficial than what we had. We spend more on control of imports/exports to the EU that. We previously spent on net contributions (don't believe the headline figures do your own calculations) There are loads of claimed benefits but none that make any us better off or safer. From memory I think some countries did close their borders during covid but that was an exceptional circumstance. Apart from such exceptional circumstance was freedom of movement fixed. Freedom of movement of EU citizens between the member countries of the EU is enshrined in the membership rules. It worked both ways as the c.2million Brits living in Spain used to enjoy. There seems to be this notion that FoM only impacted the UK and everyone was coming here. They weren’t. And just as those who came here enjoyed the benefits of FoM, so too did the Brits moving to other European countries to live/work. Yes I get how it works but unsure how saying closing the boarders in the time of covid helps explain to the poster who is not so keen on freedom of movement. Unless there is another pandemic or similar then freedom of movement will continue. If I understand the other poster correctly, they are happy it's gone. Apologies if I got that wrong The point is, countries within the EU can control their borders if the need arises." They can only do that in exceptional circumstances like the pandemic which I believe is the only time it's happened. In all other times freedom of movement applies regardless of what the individual countries want. As the other poster correctly said, it is enshrined into EU law. | |||
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