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"Peacekeepers, either UN or NATO (Israel isn't a member) need to be sent in to eb honest. Far too much bad blood between both sides for them. We still have troops deployed to keep the Greeks and Turks separate in Cyprus." They should but the US and sometimes the UK veto any action that hampers Israel's ability to bomb Palestine, and/or lift and shift their boarder into Gaza or the West Bank. | |||
"They should but the US and sometimes the UK veto any action that hampers Israel's ability to bomb Palestine, and/or lift and shift their boarder into Gaza or the West Bank." Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course! | |||
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" Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course!" The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza in recent memory was the Israeli government forcibly removing all Jews in 2005. If your disagree with that, them you'll need to redefine "ethnic cleansing" to suit a different narrative. | |||
" Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course! The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza in recent memory was the Israeli government forcibly removing all Jews in 2005. If your disagree with that, them you'll need to redefine "ethnic cleansing" to suit a different narrative." How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? | |||
" Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course! The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza in recent memory was the Israeli government forcibly removing all Jews in 2005. If your disagree with that, them you'll need to redefine "ethnic cleansing" to suit a different narrative. How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"?" Do you actually understand the definition of either? | |||
" Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course! The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza in recent memory was the Israeli government forcibly removing all Jews in 2005. If your disagree with that, them you'll need to redefine "ethnic cleansing" to suit a different narrative. How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"?" You can call the current killing of innocents many things. Horrid. Abominable. Atrocious. Unfair. Evil. We can agree or disagree. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"?" 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. | |||
" Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course! The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza in recent memory was the Israeli government forcibly removing all Jews in 2005. If your disagree with that, them you'll need to redefine "ethnic cleansing" to suit a different narrative. How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? You can call the current killing of innocents many things. Horrid. Abominable. Atrocious. Unfair. Evil. We can agree or disagree. " I'd agree on all those terms. The dictionary says: Ethnic Cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another. And Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. Feels like we've got to the first and that we shouldn't wait to see if we get to the second. | |||
" The dictionary says: Ethnic Cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another. And Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. Feels like we've got to the first and that we shouldn't wait to see if we get to the second. " WITHOUT addressing the issue of Israeli violence and general demographic shifts, *which are very valid topics for debate*, it's strange to see two terms being used repeatedly. 1. Ethnic Cleansing: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/ethnic-cleansing.shtml "… rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area." “… a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.” Now, there is no question that many extreme right wing voices in Israel call for this literally. However, Israel is not actively doing this. The simple evidence for this is the existence and full citizenship rights of Arab citizens of Israel/Israeli Arabs/Palestinian Israelis. For there to be ethnic cleansing, these people would need to be forcibly moved/expelled from Israel. This simply does not happen - nobody*, for example, is deported from Israel (despite some rhetoric from the right wing, which is about as significant as UKIP MPs mouthing off about immigrants). Now there is a wider debate around the history of this (1948, specifically), but if you want to see this as ethnic cleansing, there's the fact that there were zero Jews left in any Arab-controlled areas and the broader context of that war would need to be understood, and this would be a separate debate. While it's possible to debate the rights and wrongs of all sides, the term ethnic cleansing does not stand up to scrutiny. Not least because Arab members of parliament (MKs) exist in Israel, as do Arab villages and Arabs serve in the Israeli army. You can level all kinds of accusations at Israel, but ethnic cleansing is not one of them, and is simply inaccurate. For examples of real ethnic cleansing, you could look to Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Algeria, Egypt, etc. that had hundreds of thousands of Jews in the early 20th century, but a couple of decades later had none - through ethnic cleansing, specifically. And that's before we get to Kurds, Yazidis, Christians, etc. 2. Genocide. https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml Constraining factors include: "1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and 2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively: -Killing members of the group [Sudan] -Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group [China] -Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part [China] -Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group [Greenland/Canada] -Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group [Russia]" Firstly, intent is important. There is nothing (other than conspiracy theories, or right-wing nutters mouthing off) to suggest that there is an intent to "kill off all Arabs/Palestinians". Whereas it might look as if some of those conditions are being met, they simply are not. People say "but killing...!" - if this were the case, then Allied forces would have been committing genocide in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria. This simply isn't true. You can argue war crimes, massacres, etc. but genocide was never intended, so it does not apply. Moreover, should Israel have been attempting genocide, it would be the most spectacularly failed example in history. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/ The fact that Israel has been in a position to commit genocide but the population is not declining is a major indicator that the intent is not there. In the absence of actual *proof of intent*, or actual large-scale killing (if you think the current causalities is "large scale", you do not understand either genocide or war), any sterilisation, child-snatching or re-education campaigns... Then genocide is an uninformed term to be bandying around. It is startling how often these two terms are used without thought as to what they mean. By all means, call out war crimes, violence, killings, discrimination, disproportionality, etc. (which can all be debated) but when people start throwing around terms that they don't understand, then try to morph their definitions to fit their understanding of reality, it really doesn't allow sensible conversation. Note: *as of February 2023, Israel can deport and revoke the citizenship of Arabs who are convicted of terrorism and receive financial aid from the Palestinian Authority The fact that this legislation is needed for deportation underscores the point. (Previously posted this in another thread) | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. " What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? | |||
" Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course! The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza in recent memory was the Israeli government forcibly removing all Jews in 2005. If your disagree with that, them you'll need to redefine "ethnic cleansing" to suit a different narrative." You do realise EVERY muslim country has ethnically cleansed all jews ,or had a bloody good try, not to mention Christians, other none muslims and all gays,lesbians etc . | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about?" Your right of course, bombing a UN school is fair retaliation. | |||
" The dictionary says: Ethnic Cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another. And Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. Feels like we've got to the first and that we shouldn't wait to see if we get to the second. WITHOUT addressing the issue of Israeli violence and general demographic shifts, *which are very valid topics for debate*, it's strange to see two terms being used repeatedly. 1. Ethnic Cleansing: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/ethnic-cleansing.shtml "… rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area." “… a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.” Now, there is no question that many extreme right wing voices in Israel call for this literally. However, Israel is not actively doing this. The simple evidence for this is the existence and full citizenship rights of Arab citizens of Israel/Israeli Arabs/Palestinian Israelis. For there to be ethnic cleansing, these people would need to be forcibly moved/expelled from Israel. This simply does not happen - nobody*, for example, is deported from Israel (despite some rhetoric from the right wing, which is about as significant as UKIP MPs mouthing off about immigrants). Now there is a wider debate around the history of this (1948, specifically), but if you want to see this as ethnic cleansing, there's the fact that there were zero Jews left in any Arab-controlled areas and the broader context of that war would need to be understood, and this would be a separate debate. While it's possible to debate the rights and wrongs of all sides, the term ethnic cleansing does not stand up to scrutiny. Not least because Arab members of parliament (MKs) exist in Israel, as do Arab villages and Arabs serve in the Israeli army. You can level all kinds of accusations at Israel, but ethnic cleansing is not one of them, and is simply inaccurate. For examples of real ethnic cleansing, you could look to Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Algeria, Egypt, etc. that had hundreds of thousands of Jews in the early 20th century, but a couple of decades later had none - through ethnic cleansing, specifically. And that's before we get to Kurds, Yazidis, Christians, etc. 2. Genocide. https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml Constraining factors include: "1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and 2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively: -Killing members of the group [Sudan] -Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group [China] -Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part [China] -Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group [Greenland/Canada] -Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group [Russia]" Firstly, intent is important. There is nothing (other than conspiracy theories, or right-wing nutters mouthing off) to suggest that there is an intent to "kill off all Arabs/Palestinians". Whereas it might look as if some of those conditions are being met, they simply are not. People say "but killing...!" - if this were the case, then Allied forces would have been committing genocide in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria. This simply isn't true. You can argue war crimes, massacres, etc. but genocide was never intended, so it does not apply. Moreover, should Israel have been attempting genocide, it would be the most spectacularly failed example in history. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/ The fact that Israel has been in a position to commit genocide but the population is not declining is a major indicator that the intent is not there. In the absence of actual *proof of intent*, or actual large-scale killing (if you think the current causalities is "large scale", you do not understand either genocide or war), any sterilisation, child-snatching or re-education campaigns... Then genocide is an uninformed term to be bandying around. It is startling how often these two terms are used without thought as to what they mean. By all means, call out war crimes, violence, killings, discrimination, disproportionality, etc. (which can all be debated) but when people start throwing around terms that they don't understand, then try to morph their definitions to fit their understanding of reality, it really doesn't allow sensible conversation. Note: *as of February 2023, Israel can deport and revoke the citizenship of Arabs who are convicted of terrorism and receive financial aid from the Palestinian Authority The fact that this legislation is needed for deportation underscores the point. (Previously posted this in another thread)" Very interesting and a lot to digest. Different definitions of those words imply the situation in Gaza is different by definition. The other examples are good, I'm aware of some, and unaware of others. For me personally, I can see how people say ethnic cleansing is underway. I can see why some say it isn't. Largely depends on which definition of the word they're looking at. Genocide seems off the mark at the moment. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Your right of course, bombing a UN school is fair retaliation. " A UN school the degenerates put weapons in where they fired from thus making the school a target. Hamas hides weapons under or in schools,hospitals and other civilian areas. Now you won't believe that. You know why? Because you've projected your mind set, one of civilised behaviour and morality, onto a bunch of barbaric degenerates who have no sense of right or wrong. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about?" Is the method of which women and children are killed the only important factor? If Hamas had bombed them, as Israel have bombed Palestinian women and children, it would be cool? Also, most of that horrific stuff you described, has been debunked. Not to say they have mass murdered in a horrendous act of savagery. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Is the method of which women and children are killed the only important factor? If Hamas had bombed them, as Israel have bombed Palestinian women and children, it would be cool? Also, most of that horrific stuff you described, has been debunked. Not to say they have mass murdered in a horrendous act of savagery. " Debunked by apologists like you you mean. You really think Israel made it up just to attack Palestinians? Really? If hamas laid their weapons down tomorrow there would be peace. If Israel laid their weapons down they'd be annihilated. Israel does it's best to avoid civilians. If it didn't it would be over by now. Palestine has made it clear they want to kill ALL Jews. Now they can reap. | |||
" The other examples are good, I'm aware of some, and unaware of others. " This is an Israeli's perspective on ethnic cleansing of Jews (and some other peoples) in the middle East. Obviously, it's a one sided perspective, but it's a little different (and therefore interesting) to most perspectives one comes across in the UK. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Is the method of which women and children are killed the only important factor? If Hamas had bombed them, as Israel have bombed Palestinian women and children, it would be cool? Also, most of that horrific stuff you described, has been debunked. Not to say they have mass murdered in a horrendous act of savagery. Debunked by apologists like you you mean. " Nope. It was investigated and found to be mostly inaccurate. " You really think Israel made it up just to attack Palestinians? Really? " I mean it worked. Your points of view are evidence of that " If hamas laid their weapons down tomorrow there would be peace. If Israel laid their weapons down they'd be annihilated. Israel does it's best to avoid civilians. If it didn't it would be over by now. " Do you or anyone really believe this? Evidence suggests otherwise. Unless they're the most incompetent armed forces of all time. " Palestine has made it clear they want to kill ALL Jews. Now they can reap." Ah there we have it. Why didn't you just say you hate Palestinians. Would save anyone having to read your bigoted nonsense. Anyway. Crack on. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Is the method of which women and children are killed the only important factor? If Hamas had bombed them, as Israel have bombed Palestinian women and children, it would be cool? Also, most of that horrific stuff you described, has been debunked. Not to say they have mass murdered in a horrendous act of savagery. Debunked by apologists like you you mean. Nope. It was investigated and found to be mostly inaccurate. You really think Israel made it up just to attack Palestinians? Really? I mean it worked. Your points of view are evidence of that If hamas laid their weapons down tomorrow there would be peace. If Israel laid their weapons down they'd be annihilated. Israel does it's best to avoid civilians. If it didn't it would be over by now. Do you or anyone really believe this? Evidence suggests otherwise. Unless they're the most incompetent armed forces of all time. Palestine has made it clear they want to kill ALL Jews. Now they can reap. Ah there we have it. Why didn't you just say you hate Palestinians. Would save anyone having to read your bigoted nonsense. Anyway. Crack on." As opposed to you, the anti semitic terrorist sympathiser. Carry on wannabe stone licker. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Is the method of which women and children are killed the only important factor? If Hamas had bombed them, as Israel have bombed Palestinian women and children, it would be cool? Also, most of that horrific stuff you described, has been debunked. Not to say they have mass murdered in a horrendous act of savagery. Debunked by apologists like you you mean. You really think Israel made it up just to attack Palestinians? Really? If hamas laid their weapons down tomorrow there would be peace. If Israel laid their weapons down they'd be annihilated. Israel does it's best to avoid civilians. If it didn't it would be over by now. Palestine has made it clear they want to kill ALL Jews. Now they can reap." I have been saying for weeks they have been setting up the “hiding behind civilians” excuse for weeks to take out targets they would be able to do..like schools and hospitals See.. all the above may work as an an excuse in Gaza… what’s your excuse for the hundreds Israel are killing in the West Bank? | |||
" The other examples are good, I'm aware of some, and unaware of others. This is an Israeli's perspective on ethnic cleansing of Jews (and some other peoples) in the middle East. Obviously, it's a one sided perspective, but it's a little different (and therefore interesting) to most perspectives one comes across in the UK." https://youtu.be/WoM6fi9AvNY?si=A_PKIKC2G_7eGQdy Forgot to include the link! | |||
" The other examples are good, I'm aware of some, and unaware of others. This is an Israeli's perspective on ethnic cleansing of Jews (and some other peoples) in the middle East. Obviously, it's a one sided perspective, but it's a little different (and therefore interesting) to most perspectives one comes across in the UK. https://youtu.be/WoM6fi9AvNY?si=A_PKIKC2G_7eGQdy Forgot to include the link!" Oh sorry. I missed this with the other posts. I'll have a look. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Is the method of which women and children are killed the only important factor? If Hamas had bombed them, as Israel have bombed Palestinian women and children, it would be cool? Also, most of that horrific stuff you described, has been debunked. Not to say they have mass murdered in a horrendous act of savagery. Debunked by apologists like you you mean. You really think Israel made it up just to attack Palestinians? Really? If hamas laid their weapons down tomorrow there would be peace. If Israel laid their weapons down they'd be annihilated. Israel does it's best to avoid civilians. If it didn't it would be over by now. Palestine has made it clear they want to kill ALL Jews. Now they can reap. I have been saying for weeks they have been setting up the “hiding behind civilians” excuse for weeks to take out targets they would be able to do..like schools and hospitals See.. all the above may work as an an excuse in Gaza… what’s your excuse for the hundreds Israel are killing in the West Bank? " I believe one of those killed on the west bank was a militant commander. Perhaps the ones Israel are targeting are hamas murderers? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about?" Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Is the method of which women and children are killed the only important factor? If Hamas had bombed them, as Israel have bombed Palestinian women and children, it would be cool? Also, most of that horrific stuff you described, has been debunked. Not to say they have mass murdered in a horrendous act of savagery. Debunked by apologists like you you mean. You really think Israel made it up just to attack Palestinians? Really? If hamas laid their weapons down tomorrow there would be peace. If Israel laid their weapons down they'd be annihilated. Israel does it's best to avoid civilians. If it didn't it would be over by now. Palestine has made it clear they want to kill ALL Jews. Now they can reap. I have been saying for weeks they have been setting up the “hiding behind civilians” excuse for weeks to take out targets they would be able to do..like schools and hospitals See.. all the above may work as an an excuse in Gaza… what’s your excuse for the hundreds Israel are killing in the West Bank? I believe one of those killed on the west bank was a militant commander. Perhaps the ones Israel are targeting are hamas murderers? " So isreal are killing ppl on a perhaps wim and thats ok with you ? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women?" What do you want, film footage? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women?" There is no doubt in evidence of what they did https://twitter.com/Ostrov_A?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage?" Nah, links to credible evidence will do | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? There is no doubt in evidence of what they did https://twitter.com/Ostrov_A?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" is that links to evidence of cooked babies in ovens,and women having fetosus cut from them and is it independent evidence? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do" https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? " Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? | |||
" https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? " This was subsequently attributed to Tal Heinrich, a freelance news anchor who appears to have been drafted in by Benjamin Netanyahu's office on 8 October to assist with media relations in the wake of Hamas's attacks a day earlier. The only available public statement on the matter from Ms Heinrich at the time of writing was an interview she conducted with LBC on Wednesday, in which she was asked about the claims. Ms Heinrich, who was quoted by LBC as a spokesperson for Mr Netanyahu's office, said: "Toddlers, babies, I can tell you some of them... yes, heads were cut off. This is what we are hearing from... soldiers on the ground who dealt with the bodies." Replying to a later post on X linking to a story citing her comments, she said on Wednesday evening: "Please note: We said that these reports are based on testimonies of soldiers." 'Important to separate facts from speculation' Ramsay interviewed two IDF majors - one of whom was a spokesman. Ramsay said: "At no point did either he, or the other major I spoke to, ever mention that Hamas had beheaded or killed 40 babies or children. I believe that if it were the case, they would have told me and others there. "There is no doubt that a horrific attack took place at Kfar Aza, and it needed to be reported, and we did see the bodies of the dead from the community in their houses, in the back of a truck, and on the basketball court. "But it's important to separate the facts from speculation in a situation like this. "To reiterate - the IDF had every opportunity to inform the world's media of any story that had become apparent as the military continue to clear up the kibbutz. The murder and beheading of 40 children was never mentioned to me or my team." And another journalist, Oren Ziv, who works for independent news outlet 972 mag, was also present and given the opportunity to speak to "hundreds of soldiers on site". In a post on X, he said of the baby claims: "During the tour we didn't see any evidence of this, and the army spokesperson or commanders also didn't mention any such incidents." https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329 Debunked (the person on your lbc article said herself, testimonies that she had heard from others, the very next day | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? " your right its not enough and all links ive seen are not independent  the sympathier | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims?" I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. " Your a very angry wee guy are you getting any help for anger issues? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. " Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Your a very angry wee guy are you getting any help for anger issues? "Oh give it up you apologists. As for anger,what's wrong with anger? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. " Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. " Nope. What makes you say that? Anyhow, how do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinians in Gaza? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. Nope. What makes you say that? Anyhow, how do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinians in Gaza?" If they are hamas I'm all for it. How do you feel about the murder of 1500 jews in Israel on the 7th October? | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. Nope. What makes you say that? Anyhow, how do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinians in Gaza? If they are hamas I'm all for it. " They're not. They're mostly ordinary Palestinian people. Men women and children. How do you feel about their mass murders? " How do you feel about the murder of 1500 jews in Israel on the 7th October?" As I answered you already. I opposed and condemn the mass murders of Israelis, Palestinians, any civilians. Their nationality or religion isn't a factor for me. | |||
"Have been going on for weeks and Tom says one thing. It won't make a whole lot of difference. Remember the Parable of the Grand Old Duke of Your. He marched them up to the top of the hill and he matched them down again. Peace marches are a waste of time. " But they are excellent opps for the state to hone the craft. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. Nope. What makes you say that? Anyhow, how do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinians in Gaza? If they are hamas I'm all for it. They're not. They're mostly ordinary Palestinian people. Men women and children. How do you feel about their mass murders? How do you feel about the murder of 1500 jews in Israel on the 7th October? As I answered you already. I opposed and condemn the mass murders of Israelis, Palestinians, any civilians. Their nationality or religion isn't a factor for me. " A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. Nope. What makes you say that? Anyhow, how do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinians in Gaza? If they are hamas I'm all for it. They're not. They're mostly ordinary Palestinian people. Men women and children. How do you feel about their mass murders? How do you feel about the murder of 1500 jews in Israel on the 7th October? As I answered you already. I opposed and condemn the mass murders of Israelis, Palestinians, any civilians. Their nationality or religion isn't a factor for me. A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. " Thank you. Even worse than I thought.  | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. " I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Your a very angry wee guy are you getting any help for anger issues?
Oh give it up you apologists.
As for anger,what's wrong with anger?
"oh its not good for you | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. Nope. What makes you say that? Anyhow, how do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinians in Gaza? If they are hamas I'm all for it. They're not. They're mostly ordinary Palestinian people. Men women and children. How do you feel about their mass murders? How do you feel about the murder of 1500 jews in Israel on the 7th October? As I answered you already. I opposed and condemn the mass murders of Israelis, Palestinians, any civilians. Their nationality or religion isn't a factor for me. A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. Thank you. Even worse than I thought. "How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians? | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. " How many were polled ? Here’s another grabbing headline referenced to a vast sample “Ninety-eight percent of respondents said the Oct. 7 slaughter made them feel "prouder of their identity as Palestinians." 668 polled, 0.03% of Palestinians https://www.jns.org/three-in-four-palestinians-support-hamass-massacre/ | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Just so we're clear. You made an (incorrect) assumption about me. Then got angry about your own assumption. Then insulted me. Meanwhile, you didn't actually answer my question. However I will answer yours. I am opposed to to mass murder of women and children. Regardless of their ethnicity or religion. Are you playing the victim? Hahahaha. Nope. What makes you say that? Anyhow, how do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinians in Gaza? If they are hamas I'm all for it. They're not. They're mostly ordinary Palestinian people. Men women and children. How do you feel about their mass murders? How do you feel about the murder of 1500 jews in Israel on the 7th October? As I answered you already. I opposed and condemn the mass murders of Israelis, Palestinians, any civilians. Their nationality or religion isn't a factor for me. A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. " When was this poll | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives." I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. " Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it" Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Your a very angry wee guy are you getting any help for anger issues?
Oh give it up you apologists.
As for anger,what's wrong with anger?
oh its not good for you"Explain. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. " Boom. Well said. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. " Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said. "So without any link or evidence provided, I’m meant to take the posters word? Having googled it the last poll was taken early september on that website. See above the 40 beheaded babies was debunked, I linked to it but do you not want to believe the press when it doesn’t suit you? If you can’t provide evidence for it, I can’t help Boom | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage? Nah, links to credible evidence will do https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/ That might not be enough for you sympathiser. Look yourself, if you have the guts? Genuine question. In your view, is anyone opposed to the mass killings of women and children a "terrorist" sympathiser, and the other racist terms I won't repeat. Or is it only when the women and children being killed are Muslims? I'll ask you a question. Are you opposed to the mass murder of jews in Israel, because they seem to be conspicuously absent in your concerns? You are ,without a shadow of a doubt, a vile little anti semite. Your a very angry wee guy are you getting any help for anger issues?
Oh give it up you apologists.
As for anger,what's wrong with anger?
oh its not good for you
Explain. "Health issuse you really should see a health profesional | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large" Poll 88. Support for the formation of armed groups increases in the Gaza Strip (79%) lower in the West Bank (66% I think) | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said. "Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults. How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians? | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large Poll 88. Support for the formation of armed groups increases in the Gaza Strip (79%) lower in the West Bank (66% I think)" 71% of the public (79% in the Gaza Strip and 66% in the West Bank) say they are in favor of forming armed groups such as the “Lions’ Den” and the “Jenin Battalion,” which do not take orders from the PA and are not part of the PA security services. Section 3 https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944 So they don’t support Hamas as you originally claimed? They support other armed groups whilst their land is occupied? | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?"I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians. How do you stop it? Tell hamas to surrender. If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome? | |||
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" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?
I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians.
How do you stop it?
Tell hamas to surrender.
If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome?"We’d go back to pre 1948 where jews, christians and muslims lived side by side in peace | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?
I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians.
"Great, then we're on the same side. What was all the nonsense calling me anti semitic and terrorist sympathiser all about? " How do you stop it? Tell hamas to surrender. If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome?" I'd suggest mass murdering more civilians probably isn't the right way to go about it. If there was an easy solution, then there wouldn't be this mess right now. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?
I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians.
Great, then we're on the same side. What was all the nonsense calling me anti semitic and terrorist sympathiser all about?
How do you stop it?
Tell hamas to surrender.
If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome?
I'd suggest mass murdering more civilians probably isn't the right way to go about it. If there was an easy solution, then there wouldn't be this mess right now."Answer the question. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?
I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians.
Great, then we're on the same side. What was all the nonsense calling me anti semitic and terrorist sympathiser all about?
How do you stop it?
Tell hamas to surrender.
If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome?
I'd suggest mass murdering more civilians probably isn't the right way to go about it. If there was an easy solution, then there wouldn't be this mess right now.
Answer the question. "Which one? I've answered every question you've angrily asked me while you've been insulting me and saying all kinds of awful shit which you don't appear to be apologising for. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?
I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians.
Great, then we're on the same side. What was all the nonsense calling me anti semitic and terrorist sympathiser all about?
How do you stop it?
Tell hamas to surrender.
If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome?
I'd suggest mass murdering more civilians probably isn't the right way to go about it. If there was an easy solution, then there wouldn't be this mess right now.
Answer the question. "I mean I kind of did above with a one state solution. Or would Israelis not want to live in a democratic state with muslims? Could it be because they would be outnumbered at election time? Would that not tell you the expulsion of muslims from the land is needed? Oh wait… what’s been happening since 1948? | |||
" We’d go back to pre 1948 where jews, christians and muslims lived side by side in peace" Do you really believe that? Are you aware of the restrictions that were imposed on non-Muslims generally, and Jews specifically, in the region in and around Israel pre-1948? The pogroms? Why are there no Jews in any Middle Eastern countries? Why are the numbers of non-Muslim communities in ALL Arab/Muslim countries going down? | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?
I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians.
Great, then we're on the same side. What was all the nonsense calling me anti semitic and terrorist sympathiser all about?
How do you stop it?
Tell hamas to surrender.
If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome?
I'd suggest mass murdering more civilians probably isn't the right way to go about it. If there was an easy solution, then there wouldn't be this mess right now.
Answer the question.
I mean I kind of did above with a one state solution. Or would Israelis not want to live in a democratic state with muslims? Could it be because they would be outnumbered at election time? Would that not tell you the expulsion of muslims from the land is needed?
Oh wait… what’s been happening since 1948?"There are Muslims in Israel and they have a good life. There are Christians too,gays,lesbians.... Can you say the same for Palestine? Several times a deal has been attempted where the land is shared and every time,every,Palestine has said no. Israel has said "we extended the hand of friendship to our neighbours" . Palestine has said that it wants to kill all the jews. Htf do you parly with creatures like that? | |||
" We’d go back to pre 1948 where jews, christians and muslims lived side by side in peace Do you really believe that? Are you aware of the restrictions that were imposed on non-Muslims generally, and Jews specifically, in the region in and around Israel pre-1948? The pogroms? Why are there no Jews in any Middle Eastern countries? Why are the numbers of non-Muslim communities in ALL Arab/Muslim countries going down? " Please enlighten me of the restrictions that were imposed on non-Muslims generally, and Jews specifically, in the region in and around Palestine pre-1948 To answer your question of no jews in the middle east, I think you'll find birthright meant a lot chose to go to Israel, as a free house kind of helps, but remember this is only to people who can show jewish ancestry not by a dna test ( illegal to do an internet bought one in Israel) but via paper from history | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Boom. Well said.
Come on chap. I answered all your questions, despite your childish insults.
How do you feel about the mass killings of Palestinian women, children and civilians?
I'm against all civilian killings just as you are against all the mass killings of Israelis civilians.
Great, then we're on the same side. What was all the nonsense calling me anti semitic and terrorist sympathiser all about?
How do you stop it?
Tell hamas to surrender.
If Israel surrenders what do you think will be the outcome?
I'd suggest mass murdering more civilians probably isn't the right way to go about it. If there was an easy solution, then there wouldn't be this mess right now.
Answer the question.
I mean I kind of did above with a one state solution. Or would Israelis not want to live in a democratic state with muslims? Could it be because they would be outnumbered at election time? Would that not tell you the expulsion of muslims from the land is needed?
Oh wait… what’s been happening since 1948?
There are Muslims in Israel and they have a good life. There are Christians too,gays,lesbians....
Can you say the same for Palestine?
Several times a deal has been attempted where the land is shared and every time,every,Palestine has said no.
Israel has said "we extended the hand of friendship to our neighbours" . Palestine has said that it wants to kill all the jews.
Htf do you parly with creatures like that?"I suggest you watch the human factor. The only palestinian involved in peace talks really has been Yasser Arafat, and the only Israeli has been Yitzhak Rabin, in a meaningful mannor. What happened to Yitzhak Rabin again? Was he assasinated by a right wing Israeli? By Bill Clintons own admission in that above documentary, he stormed out as he felt Netanyahu was a boy talking disrespectfully to a man in Arafat. Peres agreed with Arafat again, only to go against his own word a few hours later and say that Israel would be keeping the mosques. | |||
" Please enlighten me of the restrictions that were imposed on non-Muslims generally, and Jews specifically, in the region in and around Palestine pre-1948" In 1892, the Ottoman government decided to prohibit the sale of land in Palestine to Jews, even if they were Ottoman citizens. How far forward or back do you want to go? There are many other examples. Like where Jews could pray, taxes to pay, etc. Going further back, it just gets more grim. "To answer your question of no Jews in the middle east, I think you'll find birthright meant a lot chose to go to Israel, as a free house kind of helps, but remember this is only to people who can show jewish ancestry not by a dna test ( illegal to do an internet bought one in Israel) but via paper from history" Right. Every Jew just picked up and left. Amazing. Now, how about the truth. About not only Jews, but every other non Muslim culture/people. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large Poll 88. Support for the formation of armed groups increases in the Gaza Strip (79%) lower in the West Bank (66% I think) 71% of the public (79% in the Gaza Strip and 66% in the West Bank) say they are in favor of forming armed groups such as the “Lions’ Den” and the “Jenin Battalion,” which do not take orders from the PA and are not part of the PA security services. Section 3 https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944 So they don’t support Hamas as you originally claimed? They support other armed groups whilst their land is occupied? " Lions Den are Allies of Hamas and Jenin Battalion was founded by a miltant of PIJ who have supported Hamas in this battle. By extension, the people who support these groups also support Hamas. I really shouldn't have to break this down. | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large Poll 88. Support for the formation of armed groups increases in the Gaza Strip (79%) lower in the West Bank (66% I think) 71% of the public (79% in the Gaza Strip and 66% in the West Bank) say they are in favor of forming armed groups such as the “Lions’ Den” and the “Jenin Battalion,” which do not take orders from the PA and are not part of the PA security services. Section 3 https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944 So they don’t support Hamas as you originally claimed? They support other armed groups whilst their land is occupied? Lions Den are Allies of Hamas and Jenin Battalion was founded by a miltant of PIJ who have supported Hamas in this battle. By extension, the people who support these groups also support Hamas. I really shouldn't have to break this down. " Ah, so any armed resistance to the Israeli occupation of Palestine is a supporter of Hamas, and therefore even though the UN allows the right to resist and oppose oppressive colonial, foreign occupation or dictatorial domination, they should all be stopped and no group should ever be formed to resist occupation? | |||
" Please enlighten me of the restrictions that were imposed on non-Muslims generally, and Jews specifically, in the region in and around Palestine pre-1948 In 1892, the Ottoman government decided to prohibit the sale of land in Palestine to Jews, even if they were Ottoman citizens. How far forward or back do you want to go? There are many other examples. Like where Jews could pray, taxes to pay, etc. Going further back, it just gets more grim. To answer your question of no Jews in the middle east, I think you'll find birthright meant a lot chose to go to Israel, as a free house kind of helps, but remember this is only to people who can show jewish ancestry not by a dna test ( illegal to do an internet bought one in Israel) but via paper from history Right. Every Jew just picked up and left. Amazing. Now, how about the truth. About not only Jews, but every other non Muslim culture/people. " I wonder why the Ottomans did that? Maybe because they had caught wind of a certain Theodor Herzl and his desire to create a zionist state under the guise of judasim? As for taxes this is pretty standard in muslim majority countries if no member of a community is willing to join the military, however this I've never seen imposed because by and large all it takes is one member of a community to stop this from taking place. If you want to talk about the only other minority with any real numbers in the area then you mean christians who make up the following percentages of the following countries Lebanon 40 % Egypt 10 % Syria 10% Jordan 7 % Iraq 3% | |||
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"honestly the only joy i got from this thread is that tom didn't end his OP post with.... what's going on guys? It's all over the news! "What's going.on here guys ? It's all over the news .. | |||
"The amount of word salad in this thread to justify the collective punishment of 2.2 million people is astounding…. The blockade of basics like fuel, food and medicines is cruelty I am all for a proportional response.. killing 1400 Israeli citizens was an abhorrent act, no one is saying it wasn’t… Basically starting 2.2 million people out of existence isn’t the right response… two wrongs don’t make what they are doing right! The interesting thing about the IDF storming the hospital is that the closest bolt hole tunnel they have shown as evidence is 100 yards from the hospital…. Any deplorable action that commit the excuse is hiding behind civilians, whether it’s bombing schools, hospitals, ambulance convoys ect….." What is a proportionate response to the massacres. What would it entail and how is it achieved? | |||
"The amount of word salad in this thread to justify the collective punishment of 2.2 million people is astounding…. The blockade of basics like fuel, food and medicines is cruelty I am all for a proportional response.. killing 1400 Israeli citizens was an abhorrent act, no one is saying it wasn’t… Basically starting 2.2 million people out of existence isn’t the right response… two wrongs don’t make what they are doing right! The interesting thing about the IDF storming the hospital is that the closest bolt hole tunnel they have shown as evidence is 100 yards from the hospital…. Any deplorable action that commit the excuse is hiding behind civilians, whether it’s bombing schools, hospitals, ambulance convoys ect….. What is a proportionate response to the massacres. What would it entail and how is it achieved?" If this was the Welsh attacking England then what would be proportional then | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? What do you want, film footage?" Who is behind the fabricated claim of 'beheaded babies'? It is none other than the fanatical settler leader who had previously called for the Palestinian town of Huwara to be "wiped out", The Grayzone says. Following false accusations made by an Israeli occupation reserve soldier named David Ben Zion about Palestinian Resistance fighters beheading babies, the claims gained widespread attention from US President Joe Biden, Israeli occupation Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as well as international media. The Grayzone news website, however, has identified Ben Zion as an extremist settler leader who had previously incited riots by calling for the Palestinian town of Huwara to be "wiped out". An international condemnation ensued after the Israeli Foreign Ministry claimed that Palestinian Resistance fighters from the Gaza Strip had killed "40 babies" and beheaded some of them during an attack on the illegal "Kfar Azza" kibbutz on the border with Gaza as part of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood that the Resistance launched against the Israeli occupation. Biden reiterated this false claim during an address at the White House on October 10, and it was uncritically reported by Western media outlets. According to The Grayzone, Ben Zion, the key source behind the false claim serves as the Deputy Commander of Unit 71 in the Israeli occupation army. "We walked door to door, we killed a lot of terrorists. They are very bad. They cut heads of children, they cut heads of women," Ben Zion told Israeli i24 reporter Nicole Zedek in an interview on October 10, also referring to Palestinians as "animals". Oddly, in a video posted on his Facebook account, Ben Zion could be seen smiling in "Kfar Azza", where he claimed to witness the alleged killings of the babies. Using the speculative verbs of "believe" and "told me", Zedek indicated hours later, "Soldiers told me they believe 40 babies/children were killed." Although the Israeli occupation military spokesperson denied information regarding "Hamas beheading babies," the unverified claims reached top-level leadership, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's spokesperson and US President Joe Biden marginally alluding to the reports of babies and toddlers' "heads decapitated". | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large Poll 88. Support for the formation of armed groups increases in the Gaza Strip (79%) lower in the West Bank (66% I think) 71% of the public (79% in the Gaza Strip and 66% in the West Bank) say they are in favor of forming armed groups such as the “Lions’ Den” and the “Jenin Battalion,” which do not take orders from the PA and are not part of the PA security services. Section 3 https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944 So they don’t support Hamas as you originally claimed? They support other armed groups whilst their land is occupied? Lions Den are Allies of Hamas and Jenin Battalion was founded by a miltant of PIJ who have supported Hamas in this battle. By extension, the people who support these groups also support Hamas. I really shouldn't have to break this down. Ah, so any armed resistance to the Israeli occupation of Palestine is a supporter of Hamas, and therefore even though the UN allows the right to resist and oppose oppressive colonial, foreign occupation or dictatorial domination, they should all be stopped and no group should ever be formed to resist occupation?" I didn't say they had no right to resist. You made that bit up. | |||
" Please enlighten me of the restrictions that were imposed on non-Muslims generally, and Jews specifically, in the region in and around Palestine pre-1948 In 1892, the Ottoman government decided to prohibit the sale of land in Palestine to Jews, even if they were Ottoman citizens. How far forward or back do you want to go? There are many other examples. Like where Jews could pray, taxes to pay, etc. Going further back, it just gets more grim. ... I wonder why the Ottomans did that? Maybe because they had caught wind of a certain Theodor Herzl and his desire to create a zionist state under the guise of judasim?" So you agree that there were anti Jewish policies. There was just a good reason for these anti Jewish policies. As usual: Nothing to see here... (you get called out) ...okay, there is something to see, but it's perfectly justified. | |||
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"The amount of word salad in this thread to justify the collective punishment of 2.2 million people is astounding…. The blockade of basics like fuel, food and medicines is cruelty I am all for a proportional response.. killing 1400 Israeli citizens was an abhorrent act, no one is saying it wasn’t… Basically starting 2.2 million people out of existence isn’t the right response… two wrongs don’t make what they are doing right! The interesting thing about the IDF storming the hospital is that the closest bolt hole tunnel they have shown as evidence is 100 yards from the hospital…. Any deplorable action that commit the excuse is hiding behind civilians, whether it’s bombing schools, hospitals, ambulance convoys ect….. What is a proportionate response to the massacres. What would it entail and how is it achieved? If this was the Welsh attacking England then what would be proportional then" This is the question I'm asking but with Israel and Gaza opposed to Wales and England. I'm not sure what response to a massacre Israel should do / should have done that would have been considered ok by everyone, including their own population | |||
" Please enlighten me of the restrictions that were imposed on non-Muslims generally, and Jews specifically, in the region in and around Palestine pre-1948 In 1892, the Ottoman government decided to prohibit the sale of land in Palestine to Jews, even if they were Ottoman citizens. How far forward or back do you want to go? There are many other examples. Like where Jews could pray, taxes to pay, etc. Going further back, it just gets more grim. ... I wonder why the Ottomans did that? Maybe because they had caught wind of a certain Theodor Herzl and his desire to create a zionist state under the guise of judasim? So you agree that there were anti Jewish policies. There was just a good reason for these anti Jewish policies. As usual: Nothing to see here... (you get called out) ...okay, there is something to see, but it's perfectly justified." Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. Boom | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large Poll 88. Support for the formation of armed groups increases in the Gaza Strip (79%) lower in the West Bank (66% I think) 71% of the public (79% in the Gaza Strip and 66% in the West Bank) say they are in favor of forming armed groups such as the “Lions’ Den” and the “Jenin Battalion,” which do not take orders from the PA and are not part of the PA security services. Section 3 https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944 So they don’t support Hamas as you originally claimed? They support other armed groups whilst their land is occupied? Lions Den are Allies of Hamas and Jenin Battalion was founded by a miltant of PIJ who have supported Hamas in this battle. By extension, the people who support these groups also support Hamas. I really shouldn't have to break this down. Ah, so any armed resistance to the Israeli occupation of Palestine is a supporter of Hamas, and therefore even though the UN allows the right to resist and oppose oppressive colonial, foreign occupation or dictatorial domination, they should all be stopped and no group should ever be formed to resist occupation? I didn't say they had no right to resist. You made that bit up. " Well it seems anyone who tries to resist occupation in your eyes are allies of Hamas, and Hamas are bad, therefore any resistance is bad? How would you want the Palestinians to resist to bbe more aesthetically pleasing for you? | |||
" A recent poll showed over 80% of Palestinians support Hamas. I think they’re too busy trying to you know… not be unalived to have any meaningful poll? 2% of the population had been murdered or will live life with a severe injury for the rest of their lives. I mean you're free to do some actual research. The poll was conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and had a sample size of over 1000. That's a decent sample. Ah so the sample size was 11 times less than the death toll. Got it Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help. Spent the last 10 mins looking, and the only 80 percent I can find was on poll 89 where 80 percent though Abbas should resign and even that was three months old at early september. Can you share the link to which poll? And which part as they are rather large Poll 88. Support for the formation of armed groups increases in the Gaza Strip (79%) lower in the West Bank (66% I think) 71% of the public (79% in the Gaza Strip and 66% in the West Bank) say they are in favor of forming armed groups such as the “Lions’ Den” and the “Jenin Battalion,” which do not take orders from the PA and are not part of the PA security services. Section 3 https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944 So they don’t support Hamas as you originally claimed? They support other armed groups whilst their land is occupied? Lions Den are Allies of Hamas and Jenin Battalion was founded by a miltant of PIJ who have supported Hamas in this battle. By extension, the people who support these groups also support Hamas. I really shouldn't have to break this down. Ah, so any armed resistance to the Israeli occupation of Palestine is a supporter of Hamas, and therefore even though the UN allows the right to resist and oppose oppressive colonial, foreign occupation or dictatorial domination, they should all be stopped and no group should ever be formed to resist occupation? I didn't say they had no right to resist. You made that bit up. Well it seems anyone who tries to resist occupation in your eyes are allies of Hamas, and Hamas are bad, therefore any resistance is bad? How would you want the Palestinians to resist to bbe more aesthetically pleasing for you?" Why would it seem that way? Those 2 groups are Allies, that's just fact. Hamas can resist in any which way they like in my book, they're in a war. I've never stated otherwise. | |||
" I wonder why the Ottomans did that? Maybe because they had caught wind of a certain Theodor Herzl and his desire to create a zionist state under the guise of judasim? So you agree that there were anti Jewish policies. There was just a good reason for these anti Jewish policies. As usual: Nothing to see here... (you get called out) ...okay, there is something to see, but it's perfectly justified. Nothing like emotional language to get yourself taken seriously. Boom" ? | |||
"The amount of word salad in this thread to justify the collective punishment of 2.2 million people is astounding…. The blockade of basics like fuel, food and medicines is cruelty I am all for a proportional response.. killing 1400 Israeli citizens was an abhorrent act, no one is saying it wasn’t… Basically starting 2.2 million people out of existence isn’t the right response… two wrongs don’t make what they are doing right! The interesting thing about the IDF storming the hospital is that the closest bolt hole tunnel they have shown as evidence is 100 yards from the hospital…. Any deplorable action that commit the excuse is hiding behind civilians, whether it’s bombing schools, hospitals, ambulance convoys ect….. What is a proportionate response to the massacres. What would it entail and how is it achieved? If this was the Welsh attacking England then what would be proportional then" When the IRA were bombing the mainland would the proportional response have been to starve out every catholic in Northern Ireland? … oh… Derry.. that’s mainly catholic, just stick a blockade on them!! | |||
"The amount of word salad in this thread to justify the collective punishment of 2.2 million people is astounding…. The blockade of basics like fuel, food and medicines is cruelty I am all for a proportional response.. killing 1400 Israeli citizens was an abhorrent act, no one is saying it wasn’t… Basically starting 2.2 million people out of existence isn’t the right response… two wrongs don’t make what they are doing right! The interesting thing about the IDF storming the hospital is that the closest bolt hole tunnel they have shown as evidence is 100 yards from the hospital…. Any deplorable action that commit the excuse is hiding behind civilians, whether it’s bombing schools, hospitals, ambulance convoys ect….. What is a proportionate response to the massacres. What would it entail and how is it achieved? If this was the Welsh attacking England then what would be proportional then When the IRA were bombing the mainland would the proportional response have been to starve out every catholic in Northern Ireland? … oh… Derry.. that’s mainly catholic, just stick a blockade on them!! " You said Israel has the right to proportional response. I asked what is a proportional response, what does it look like and how is it achieved. Your post does not answer my question as to what you think Israel should have done, it only infers what you think is not proportional. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women?" what about the special top brass and top journalist that was called and showed a video of what the idf found and told it would never be seen by the public so that would understand and believe no matter what Hamas said i think its time it went public if it really exists might help hey. | |||
" How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? 0.5% of the Gazan civilian population has been killed An additional 1.5% have been injured. Israel has killed 10 Gazan civilians for each Israeli killed by Hamas. What is your point? During WW2 more Germans died than British. More Japanese died than Americans. Does that mean we shouldn't have fought the second world war? What we are talking about here is civilisation against barbarism. These murderous stone licking demonic misfits cooked Jewish babies in ovens in front if they parents. Killed whole families, cut foetuses out of women in hospitals and all the time danced in the street. Wtf are you rambling about? Can you show evidence of cooked babies in ovens?cut feotuses from women? what about the special top brass and top journalist that was called and showed a video of what the idf found and told it would never be seen by the public so that would understand and believe no matter what Hamas said i think its time it went public if it really exists might help hey." Im pretty sure that has been found to be untrue | |||
" Fully aware. It's essentially ethnic cleansing that's being carried out. Shows how wealthy or what contacts top people in that state have. All a conspiracy of course! The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza in recent memory was the Israeli government forcibly removing all Jews in 2005. If your disagree with that, them you'll need to redefine "ethnic cleansing" to suit a different narrative. How do you describe the current mass indiscriminate killing of Palestinian men women and children in Gaza? Is it not at a great enough number yet to be "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"? You can call the current killing of innocents many things. Horrid. Abominable. Atrocious. Unfair. Evil. We can agree or disagree. I'd agree on all those terms. The dictionary says: Ethnic Cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another. And Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. Feels like we've got to the first and that we shouldn't wait to see if we get to the second. " By that definition it is not ethnic cleansing bombs are not discriminating between cultures/religions, but anyone present, in the way, after being advised to leave the area. | |||
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