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By *usybee73 OP Man 7 weeks ago
in the sticks |
First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria |
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MSM is entertainment and will produce whatever sells.
Social media pushes whatever engages people, be that conspiracies or aliens.
Small independent voices are nutjobs.
Pick your poison. At least MSM are regulated to a degree and, if you cast a wide enough net, you might average out some truth. |
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By *oo hotCouple 7 weeks ago
North West |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria "
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
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By *otMe66Man 7 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
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Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise |
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By *irldnCouple 7 weeks ago
Brighton |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise "
But I thought our perception of far right or far left depended on where we draw the “centre” line?
I think Reform are right not far right but I believe I am generally sitting in the centre (depending on the policy). |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
But I thought our perception of far right or far left depended on where we draw the “centre” line?
I think Reform are right not far right but I believe I am generally sitting in the centre (depending on the policy)."
Perception will be dependant on where you sit yourself. However, the poster said "consensus of the country at large" which is nonsense. How would they know that?
Anyway, Reform are Right Wing Populist, nothing more. |
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By *oo hotCouple 7 weeks ago
North West |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise "
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs. |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs."
Reform are slightly right of centre. |
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By *abioMan 7 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria "
Trump is not going to win against ABC… in New York State the only reason it’s wasn’t 1st degree sexual assault (which is what r@pe technically is) is that act involves inserting his penis…. He was found guilty of 2nd degree sexual assault, which is forcibly inserting his fingers into her vagina without her consent!
The act is the same.. the only difference is the body part! |
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This link shows the different factions that are a threat to society, left extremism is a bigger threat than the right or jihadist.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/terrorism-eu-facts-figures/
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs.
Reform are slightly right of centre."
Only if the centre is way over to the right.
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By *otMe66Man 7 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs."
What specifically are their racist policies? If they have them I will be the first to apologise for not recognising they’re far right  |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs.
What specifically are their racist policies? If they have them I will be the first to apologise for not recognising they’re far right "
Race baiters don't care about the truth or facts. |
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By *irldnCouple 7 weeks ago
Brighton |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs.
What specifically are their racist policies? If they have them I will be the first to apologise for not recognising they’re far right "
I don’t believe racism is restricted to far right. You can be racist on the far left too!
Some people when they say “racist” mean “anti/restrictive immigration” but is that also only the preserve of the far right? Honest question as I don’t know - were the Khmer Rouge anti-immigrant? |
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By *irldnCouple 7 weeks ago
Brighton |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs.
What specifically are their racist policies? If they have them I will be the first to apologise for not recognising they’re far right
I don’t believe racism is restricted to far right. You can be racist on the far left too!
Some people when they say “racist” mean “anti/restrictive immigration” but is that also only the preserve of the far right? Honest question as I don’t know - were the Khmer Rouge anti-immigrant?"
Should have looked before asking that…
“The Khmer Rouge targeted ethnic minorities, especially Chinese, Vietnamese, and Muslim Cham, of whom an estimated 80% were killed. In addition, anyone who was believed to be an intellectual was killed: doctors, lawyers, teachers, even people who wore glasses or knew a foreign language became targets.“ |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs.
What specifically are their racist policies? If they have them I will be the first to apologise for not recognising they’re far right "
They obviously are. They put a lot of effort into skirting around racism. Being very careful about how things are worded.
An obvious example is they have a problem with people who aren't racism.
Still, racist types for some reason absolutely hate being called out. Which I don't understand. If someone accuses normal people of being not-racist, we just nod, agree and crack on. |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs.
What specifically are their racist policies? If they have them I will be the first to apologise for not recognising they’re far right
I don’t believe racism is restricted to far right. You can be racist on the far left too!
Some people when they say “racist” mean “anti/restrictive immigration” but is that also only the preserve of the far right? Honest question as I don’t know - were the Khmer Rouge anti-immigrant?"
Not specifically, they had no immigration during their brief rule. They were more concerned with eradicating western capitalist values from their society and returning to a low technology farming based economy. |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise "
I view Reform as right wing and probably a bit further right than the conservatives. I'm not sure I would call them far right though, anymore than I would call corbyn's Labour far left. As someone else pointed out, racism is not restricted to either wing |
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By *otMe66Man 7 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
Why is this a bad time for MSM?
Reform are a far right entity. They should maybe apologise for saying they are a Party when they are not, but they are absolutely far right in the consensus of the country at large.
Donald trump is unlikely to get far with his lawsuit either because Judge Kaplan agreed with E Jean Carroll that she had been (r***d)
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘r***’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Incorrect. Reform are a right wing party.
You should look up what far right means, if you think otherwise
I did. They are a bunch of far-right racist knobs.
What specifically are their racist policies? If they have them I will be the first to apologise for not recognising they’re far right
I don’t believe racism is restricted to far right. You can be racist on the far left too!
Some people when they say “racist” mean “anti/restrictive immigration” but is that also only the preserve of the far right? Honest question as I don’t know - were the Khmer Rouge anti-immigrant?"
the person I replied to called them far right racists, if they have racist policies I have missed them and therefore I must have also missed they are far right.
I'm happy to admit I was wrong if the polices can be pointed out to from the poster. |
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Joseph Goebbels once claimed that he could turn a Bolshevik into a good Nazi but he could do nothing with liberals.
Sometimes I look at some posts in the forums and do think there is no left or right, but a circle in which extreme ideologies come to a meeting point. |
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Far right is the new woke. It can mean further right than the average conservative, the way far left means extreme lefty.
Or it can mean fascist.
Tbh I don't think reform are the right version of the far left. So it's an incorrect label.
But I'm sure thendmwand for an apology wasn't just because they were a bit off with their placement. |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria "
MSM is influenced by people already in power. Everytime something or somebody new comes up that could change things msm demonise them and attack their character's, rather than their arguments. Sadly this seems to work far too often. |
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"First, the BBC had to apologise to Richard tice for calling reform a far right party.
Trump now suing abc news for comments about the certain alleged sexual offence which was turned down in court
So question... is mainstream run as an agenda? Or just don't care?
Can take it back to Covid-19, you know where they whipped it up and in all honesty, frightened certain groups to death with hysteria
MSM is influenced by people already in power. Everytime something or somebody new comes up that could change things msm demonise them and attack their character's, rather than their arguments. Sadly this seems to work far too often."
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