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Panorama discusses immigration, both legal and illegal. And how Brexit was about controlling borders but not in the way the minions/electorate wanted it.
Suella discusses how she was able to see Sunak regularly re stopping the boats, but it took a year to get an appointment to discuss reducing the legal immigration figure. |
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"Panorama discusses immigration, both legal and illegal. And how Brexit was about controlling borders but not in the way the minions/electorate wanted it.
Suella discusses how she was able to see Sunak regularly re stopping the boats, but it took a year to get an appointment to discuss reducing the legal immigration figure."
That proves the conservatives are pro migration, the remedy will be Labour has set out in their policy of breaking the smuggling gangs. |
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"Panorama discusses immigration, both legal and illegal. And how Brexit was about controlling borders but not in the way the minions/electorate wanted it.
Suella discusses how she was able to see Sunak regularly re stopping the boats, but it took a year to get an appointment to discuss reducing the legal immigration figure.
That proves the conservatives are pro migration, the remedy will be Labour has set out in their policy of breaking the smuggling gangs."
No, the remedy will be removing the reasons people come here in the first place - access to free housiong, healthcare, handouts, black market economy, and the prospoects of ever being returned to your country of origin practically zero.
You start with towing back each boat intercepted to France followed by processing those that do make it to these shores within 24 hours and deporting them.
Then you leave the ECHR, or just do what France does, fuck it off to high port when you want/need to just mag to grid illegal immigrants.
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Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions. |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions."
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations, |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions."
Buisness wants cheap labour and to return as much profit as possible to share holders.
The amount of cheap labour over the last 2 decades has really held back productivity and wage growth.. |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations, "
And corporations influence the people. |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people."
Advertisements you mean.? |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?"
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations. |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations."
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.? |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?"
Mmmmm I wonder about M.P Scott Benton the local people voted him in, but he was all for working with the gambling industry to improve the prospects of that industry by lobbying the government instead of working for the local people who voted him in. yes proper tory. |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?"
Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss. |
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Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss."
“People” don’t influence the media, prssure groups do. The reason that GBN hasn’t attracted the kind of advertising revenue that Sky has is simply down to a vocal minority on Twatter and the ad agencies that caved to them in the hopes of keeping their ESG scores high with their own financial backers. Given their viewing figures consistently out perform Sky News a decent business model would see them attract advertisers.
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
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illegal asylum is an oxymoron.
But ignoring that.
We could find better ways of reducing this bill without needing to pull up the drawbridge to compassion.
A big chunk of this number is on hotels because we don't have a place to house half the backlog. And paying something like 150 a night.
If we employe more case checkers we could get the back log to a more manageable level.
Surely we can get a better deal than 120pn if we are block booking.
If we are looking at this being a long term thing when do we look at sensible infrastructure? What could we build for 350m?
I'd suggest offshroing while processing (by us not the offshore country) but the deal with Rwanda didn't look cheap per person.
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It's pretty clear in the last few years that the demographics of many towns has changed very quickly. That's impossible with direct state level actions. Hence why we always refer to blue/red Labour. It doesnt matter who you pick, those with the money will bribe to get the cheap labour they want. |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?
Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss."
I gather you are speaking for yourself that you are influenced by the media.  |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
"
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries? |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?
Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss.
I gather you are speaking for yourself that you are influenced by the media. "
We’re all influenced by the media we consume, but some aren’t self aware enough to realise it. |
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This will be one of the major reasons why they lose the next election. They knew that this was happening. Lots of politicians raised the problem about legal immigration.
As soon as the numbers were published, they passed a few legislations to control it and acted like they didn't even realise that the numbers were so high. People can clearly see through these lies. It's evident that they wanted high legal immigration, they were intentionally allowing it to happen and the moment they came close to election, they acted like they are doing something about it.
After over a decade in Power, why would people still believe them? |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?"
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration. |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration. "
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries. |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration. "
does it include those granted asylum ? |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?
Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss.
I gather you are speaking for yourself that you are influenced by the media.
We’re all influenced by the media we consume, but some aren’t self aware enough to realise it."
Media influence is not a problem or danger to people/electorate, mp's influenced by capital gain either by extra money supply or a position on the board of a corporation for lobbying for the benefit of corporations not the piblic is the problem and danger, that is one of the reasons I do not register my interest to vote the public/electorate do not influence policy corporations do.  |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries."
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?
Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss.
I gather you are speaking for yourself that you are influenced by the media.
We’re all influenced by the media we consume, but some aren’t self aware enough to realise it.
Media influence is not a problem or danger to people/electorate, mp's influenced by capital gain either by extra money supply or a position on the board of a corporation for lobbying for the benefit of corporations not the piblic is the problem and danger, that is one of the reasons I do not register my interest to vote the public/electorate do not influence policy corporations do. "
So you don’t think people can be influenced by the media to vote for a particular party? Or to think that certain issues are more prevalent/serious? |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them"
51% of refugees are in employment. |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them
51% of refugees are in employment."
So how are the other 49% supported |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?
Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss.
I gather you are speaking for yourself that you are influenced by the media.
We’re all influenced by the media we consume, but some aren’t self aware enough to realise it.
Media influence is not a problem or danger to people/electorate, mp's influenced by capital gain either by extra money supply or a position on the board of a corporation for lobbying for the benefit of corporations not the piblic is the problem and danger, that is one of the reasons I do not register my interest to vote the public/electorate do not influence policy corporations do.
So you don’t think people can be influenced by the media to vote for a particular party? Or to think that certain issues are more prevalent/serious?"
Yes and midia has a large part to play in the policies that are made
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them
51% of refugees are in employment.
So how are the other 49% supported"
They are eligible for the same benefits as a UK national, however many refugees end up homeless as the ‘move on’ period of 28 days is less than the 56 days councils have to arrange housing, and the 35 days (minimum) it takes to get UC. |
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"Business wants immigration, business needs immigration. The Tories know this and they have created the whole immigration issue as a way to placate the, I’ll be polite, xenophobic element of their support.
The asylum application backlog in 2010 was about 12,000, as of the beginning of 2023 it was over 120,000. As asylum applications increased the government has failed to invest in the process. The turnover rate of asylum decision makers is around 33% annually, peaking at 46% in 2021/22. Those who have left the service blame poor training, and a focus on targets, prioritising fast decisions over correct decisions.
Roll on right Labour. Politicians are put there by the people not corporations,
And corporations influence the people.
Advertisements you mean.?
Most of the media is owned by large corporations, or by people who also own large corporations.
But politicians are put their by the people through the vote, do you still vote even though you know this.?
Yes, and people are influenced by the media that they consume. That’s why the likes of The S*n and GB News are run at a loss.
I gather you are speaking for yourself that you are influenced by the media.
We’re all influenced by the media we consume, but some aren’t self aware enough to realise it.
Media influence is not a problem or danger to people/electorate, mp's influenced by capital gain either by extra money supply or a position on the board of a corporation for lobbying for the benefit of corporations not the piblic is the problem and danger, that is one of the reasons I do not register my interest to vote the public/electorate do not influence policy corporations do.
So you don’t think people can be influenced by the media to vote for a particular party? Or to think that certain issues are more prevalent/serious?"
Critical thinking is a rare commodity these days, indoctrinated trust not influence in the media taking what has been said or printed at face value is a worry.
Fear and hate is the only thing pushed by political parties in an attempt to influence not the media. |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them"
I imagine many are those who have been asked to come here to work for our understaffed social care and NHS, and their families. |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them
I imagine many are those who have been asked to come here to work for our understaffed social care and NHS, and their families."
I think we are talking about different sets of people. I was referring to those that arrive by small boats across the channel and claim asylum. |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them
51% of refugees are in employment."
I was hoping for a higher figure to be honest. I assume refugee status is what comes after being accepted by the authorities after the dangerous channel crossing |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them
I imagine many are those who have been asked to come here to work for our understaffed social care and NHS, and their families.
I think we are talking about different sets of people. I was referring to those that arrive by small boats across the channel and claim asylum."
The OP is about both. The programme starts off with care agencies not getting staff and the government opening up avenues to gain staff through immigration. |
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"Panorama discusses immigration, both legal and illegal. And how Brexit was about controlling borders but not in the way the minions/electorate wanted it.
Suella discusses how she was able to see Sunak regularly re stopping the boats, but it took a year to get an appointment to discuss reducing the legal immigration figure.
That proves the conservatives are pro migration, the remedy will be Labour has set out in their policy of breaking the smuggling gangs.
No, the remedy will be removing the reasons people come here in the first place - access to free housiong, healthcare, handouts, black market economy, and the prospoects of ever being returned to your country of origin practically zero.
You start with towing back each boat intercepted to France followed by processing those that do make it to these shores within 24 hours and deporting them.
Then you leave the ECHR, or just do what France does, fuck it off to high port when you want/need to just mag to grid illegal immigrants.
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them
I imagine many are those who have been asked to come here to work for our understaffed social care and NHS, and their families.
I think we are talking about different sets of people. I was referring to those that arrive by small boats across the channel and claim asylum.
The OP is about both. The programme starts off with care agencies not getting staff and the government opening up avenues to gain staff through immigration."
However I was asking only about clarification on one set of people with regards to the 63% figure, asking if it refers to legal non EU people or small boat people (after being granted the right to stay) or a combination |
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"EU migrants in UK in work 82%
Uk nationals in work 74%
Non EU migrants in UK in work 63%
All these folk supporting the reported £8bn annual cost of illegal asylum/migrants
Does the 63% in employment relate to those that arrive by small boat or does it include those that arrive legally from non EU countries?
Stand to be corrected believe legal immigration.
Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work, and the backlog of asylum decisions is huge, so it must be non asylum seekers who arrived from non EU countries.
I was thinking more of after they have been processed and given the right to stay. I was wondering if they are part of the 63% or even better if there is figures for just them
I imagine many are those who have been asked to come here to work for our understaffed social care and NHS, and their families.
I think we are talking about different sets of people. I was referring to those that arrive by small boats across the channel and claim asylum.
The OP is about both. The programme starts off with care agencies not getting staff and the government opening up avenues to gain staff through immigration."
which then opened up a path for dodgy visas and gaming the system. But let's not look at this "illegal legal" migration, there are some refugees to get angry about. |
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It's been obvious for a while high immigration was being encouraged by the state. You'd have to be a total fucking idiot to think the government actually want to lower migration.
Illegal migration has always been a small proportion of overall migration. When illegal migration grows massively, you know migration in general is ridiculous. |
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