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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 4 weeks ago

nearby

Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. "

Your posts are the equivalent of click bait, I know because I'm responding, comical really,

Mrs x

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By *estivalMan 4 weeks ago

borehamwood


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. "

dont be silly its only russia that has to pay if they blow shit up, if us or our allies do it its blackrock who rebuild those countrys then those countrys are in debt forever and a day

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. dont be silly its only russia that has to pay if they blow shit up, if us or our allies do it its blackrock who rebuild those countrys then those countrys are in debt forever and a day"

I am going to be pedantic (I am not defending the actions of Israel or for that matter Hamas).

The USA (and other Western states) sold weapons to Israel but it was Israel that used them. Whereas Russia has been directly using their own weapons blowing shit up so there is a no question of who is responsible.

Maybe pretty much every war and terrorist attack in the last 60+ years should be laid at Russia’s door for the AK47?

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By *estivalMan 4 weeks ago

borehamwood


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. dont be silly its only russia that has to pay if they blow shit up, if us or our allies do it its blackrock who rebuild those countrys then those countrys are in debt forever and a day

I am going to be pedantic (I am not defending the actions of Israel or for that matter Hamas).

The USA (and other Western states) sold weapons to Israel but it was Israel that used them. Whereas Russia has been directly using their own weapons blowing shit up so there is a no question of who is responsible.

Maybe pretty much every war and terrorist attack in the last 60+ years should be laid at Russia’s door for the AK47? "

so we paid to rebuild iraq? Ah no thats rite it was haliburton and the like who rebuilt it and used iraqi oil money to do it. Did we rebuild afghan? Ah thats rite we left that place in an even worse state than before we went there, if isreal dont have to build gaza why are we trying to make russia pay for ukraine

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. dont be silly its only russia that has to pay if they blow shit up, if us or our allies do it its blackrock who rebuild those countrys then those countrys are in debt forever and a day

I am going to be pedantic (I am not defending the actions of Israel or for that matter Hamas).

The USA (and other Western states) sold weapons to Israel but it was Israel that used them. Whereas Russia has been directly using their own weapons blowing shit up so there is a no question of who is responsible.

Maybe pretty much every war and terrorist attack in the last 60+ years should be laid at Russia’s door for the AK47? so we paid to rebuild iraq? Ah no thats rite it was haliburton and the like who rebuilt it and used iraqi oil money to do it. Did we rebuild afghan? Ah thats rite we left that place in an even worse state than before we went there, if isreal dont have to build gaza why are we trying to make russia pay for ukraine"

I didn’t say Israel shouldn’t pay to rebuild Gaza though did I? In fact the opposite was closer to my point. You were saying the West should pay because Israel used weapons sold to them by those countries.

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By *otMe66Man 4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. "

I think the repair bill should be split 3 ways, Israel, Hamas and Iran.

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By *estivalMan 4 weeks ago

borehamwood

No i said if us or our allies blow the shit out of peoples countrys we dont pay to fix it, in fact we make money out of the rebuilding, its only our enemys who have to cough up if they blow the shit out of someones country, you know because the west are so good hearted we destroy other peoples countrys for there own good, any one else does it then all of a sudden the west behave as if they would never do such a thing themselves, just sick of the hypocrisy either we shut the fuck up about other countrys or we lead by example and stop fucking peoples countrys up by trying to give them democracy and installing leaders we prefer in those countrys, otherwise we have no right to tell others what they should and shouldnt be doing

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

I think the repair bill should be split 3 ways, Israel, Hamas and Iran.

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Not the US? They've been egging on the mass killings and destruction, selling them bombs to drop on the Palestinian punters and stopping any ceasefire resolutions in the UN.

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By *eroy1000Man 4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. "

If the US coughs up then surely Germany and Italy should also cough up. Israel and Hamas should for sure.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 4 weeks ago

nearby

72kg carbon per ton of concrete. The rebuilding will damage the environment.

No lectures from Biden on impact of climate change after he sanctioned the 15,000 bombs to make Gaza look like Mariupol

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. "

After destroying so much. I didn't realise hamas were hiding in all those building

Anyway.. it was reported that Isreal want the international community to pay for the rebuild.

I think those who sold arms to isreal, and knowing what would happen should pay, and Isreal too

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By *astandFeistyCouple 4 weeks ago

Bournemouth

Here we go again with the UK and US selling Israel bombs. It's not true.

Why should we (taxpayers) pay for rebuilding something we had nothing to do with. And why should we (taxpayers) pay to rebuild something our 'allies' (they're not my allies) have blown up.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 4 weeks ago

nearby

$300bn seized Russian currency assets under global sanctions, with ongoing talks how it can be utilised for rebuilding Ukraine

Any thoughts on seizure of Israeli assets for rebuilding Gaza ?

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Here we go again with the UK and US selling Israel bombs. It's not true.

Why should we (taxpayers) pay for rebuilding something we had nothing to do with. And why should we (taxpayers) pay to rebuild something our 'allies' (they're not my allies) have blown up. "

Exactly! Arms dealers should be shouldering the costs

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham

Btw.. in the news today. Rockets are fired at Tel-Aviv from Gaza.

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man 4 weeks ago

M20

“ Anyway.. it was reported that Isreal want the international community to pay for the rebuild.”

Are they sulking because the nasty international community made them stop their own rebuild.

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By *oubleswing2019Man 4 weeks ago

Colchester

If we don't pay to rebuild the country, then there are several others who might want to step in and rebuild.

None of the countries are going to do this purely for altruistic reasons, us included. So we may as well stump up the cash and cement ourselves to the place, before other countries do the same.

Projecting "soft power" strengthens us globally.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 4 weeks ago

nearby

It seems all Israel are building is more illegal settlements on the land they thieved on the West Bank.

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs. Your posts are the equivalent of click bait, I know because I'm responding, comical really,

Mrs x"

Let me correct the title. Palestinians return to destroyed homes in Khan Younis after Israeli Defeat.

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Btw.. in the news today. Rockets are fired at Tel-Aviv from Gaza. "

Fired from khan Younis actually. Not just that Times of Israel reported 4 IDF killed in Khan Younis in as war on Gaza hits six-month mark. Attackers emerge from tunnel, ambush troops, then escape. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin had already warned Israel of “strategic defeat” if it does not work to protect Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA. "

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

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By *otMe66Man 4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *oan of DArcCouple 4 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Here we go again with the UK and US selling Israel bombs. It's not true.

Why should we (taxpayers) pay for rebuilding something we had nothing to do with. And why should we (taxpayers) pay to rebuild something our 'allies' (they're not my allies) have blown up. "

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It's a good point, but when it suited the western narrative, Palestinian civilians were conflated with Hamas and therefore became legitimate targets, they paid a very high price due to that false association.

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA."

And you know this how? Do you work in the intelligence community? MI6? Or do you have a verifiable reputable source?

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

And you know this how? Do you work in the intelligence community? MI6? Or do you have a verifiable reputable source?"

“House on the beach is not a dream," Thousands of Jewish-American families make their Aliyah and immigrate to Israel every year reads an advertisement published by Harey Zahav, an Israeli company notorious for building settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank with links to Israeli Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel, crime minister Satanyahu and IDF. The ad depicts an artist's rendering of luxury homes superimposed over an actual photograph of a Gaza neighborhood destroyed by IDF terrorists. He’s already been charged with fraud, bribery and breach of trust in three cases filed in 2019, in Case 1000, 2000 and 4000. You don’t need to work for intelligence community but you do get the gist

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By *otMe66Man 4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

And you know this how? Do you work in the intelligence community? MI6? Or do you have a verifiable reputable source?

“House on the beach is not a dream," Thousands of Jewish-American families make their Aliyah and immigrate to Israel every year reads an advertisement published by Harey Zahav, an Israeli company notorious for building settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank with links to Israeli Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel, crime minister Satanyahu and IDF. The ad depicts an artist's rendering of luxury homes superimposed over an actual photograph of a Gaza neighborhood destroyed by IDF terrorists. He’s already been charged with fraud, bribery and breach of trust in three cases filed in 2019, in Case 1000, 2000 and 4000. You don’t need to work for intelligence community but you do get the gist "

This story is inflated and does not represent the truth, it is designed to drive further wedges and misinformation.

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

And you know this how? Do you work in the intelligence community? MI6? Or do you have a verifiable reputable source?

“House on the beach is not a dream," Thousands of Jewish-American families make their Aliyah and immigrate to Israel every year reads an advertisement published by Harey Zahav, an Israeli company notorious for building settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank with links to Israeli Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel, crime minister Satanyahu and IDF. The ad depicts an artist's rendering of luxury homes superimposed over an actual photograph of a Gaza neighborhood destroyed by IDF terrorists. He’s already been charged with fraud, bribery and breach of trust in three cases filed in 2019, in Case 1000, 2000 and 4000. You don’t need to work for intelligence community but you do get the gist "

So no link to a verifiable reputable source then? Where is this advert published so I can see it? Where are the articles linking this development company with senior members of the Israeli govt? I’m not saying there are no links, but you made the statement so burden of truth is on you.

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By *entlemanFoxMan 4 weeks ago

North East / London

OP,

Your concern seems somewhat late in the day.

Since 2006ish Hamas have fired tens of thousands of unguided 122mm rockets from Gaza into Israel.

I don’t support the approach the IDF is taking in Gaza, and think they are probably heading for a strategic defeat regardless of any battlefield achievement.

But your criticism seems particularly one sided.

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By *tuhelCouple 4 weeks ago

Livingstone

Reparations are forced on the loosers; like the Allies made Germany pay for WW1 and WW2.

Israel has not lost, they won't pay. However, Hamas's funders in Iran and Qatar etc will probably find a few $million to help out, if they get interest on the loan.

No way Britain needs to fund the rebuild except via loans or overseas aid.

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Reparations are forced on the loosers; like the Allies made Germany pay for WW1 and WW2.

Israel has not lost, they won't pay. However, Hamas's funders in Iran and Qatar etc will probably find a few $million to help out, if they get interest on the loan.

No way Britain needs to fund the rebuild except via loans or overseas aid. "

Only looser in this war is Israel. In the early days of the war, Crime minister Satanyahu set out the main objectives that would deliver such a victory. routing Hamas, freeing the Israeli hostages and maintaining open-ended security control over a demilitarized Gaza Strip. More than six months into what has increasingly become a war without a clear end, none of these objectives have been met. The contrast between the first few weeks after the Oct7 and the last two is staggering in terms of sympathy and support for Israel. Global opinion has shifted attention from the Oct 7 to the wholesale massacre of Palestinians, the majority being children and women in Gaza. His decision to sanction the systematic destruction of Gaza, including the demolition of hospitals and universities, the killing of medics, journalists and aid workers and the deliberate targeting of Palestinians trying to reach aid trucks, has tainted Israel’s claim of exercising the right to self-defense. To make things worse, Israel is facing serious charges at the International Court of Justice of committing genocide in Gaza. No matter how the Gaza war ends, there is no returning to the pre Oct 7 mindset. Satanyahu biggest blunder was his sanctioning of the mass murder of Palestinians in a way that the world could no longer stomach or defend. Those tens of thousands of civilian casualties are the ones delivering a defeat to Israel.

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By *irkby coupleCouple 4 weeks ago

Kirkby

They will get millions if not billions of what ever the local currency is in aid from all around the world to rebuild the place.

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By *eroy1000Man 4 weeks ago

milton keynes

Hopefully when this current situation is over and the rebuilding funds come from wherever, they get used for actual rebuilding and not siphoned away for military means

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

And you know this how? Do you work in the intelligence community? MI6? Or do you have a verifiable reputable source?

“House on the beach is not a dream," Thousands of Jewish-American families make their Aliyah and immigrate to Israel every year reads an advertisement published by Harey Zahav, an Israeli company notorious for building settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank with links to Israeli Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel, crime minister Satanyahu and IDF. The ad depicts an artist's rendering of luxury homes superimposed over an actual photograph of a Gaza neighborhood destroyed by IDF terrorists. He’s already been charged with fraud, bribery and breach of trust in three cases filed in 2019, in Case 1000, 2000 and 4000. You don’t need to work for intelligence community but you do get the gist

So no link to a verifiable reputable source then? Where is this advert published so I can see it? Where are the articles linking this development company with senior members of the Israeli govt? I’m not saying there are no links, but you made the statement so burden of truth is on you."

I will answer all your questions but first give me proof and names of 40 beheaded burnt babies in Kibbutz Kfar Aza. Lie repeatedly told by Satanyahu regime.

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By *astandFeistyCouple 4 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

And you know this how? Do you work in the intelligence community? MI6? Or do you have a verifiable reputable source?

“House on the beach is not a dream," Thousands of Jewish-American families make their Aliyah and immigrate to Israel every year reads an advertisement published by Harey Zahav, an Israeli company notorious for building settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank with links to Israeli Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel, crime minister Satanyahu and IDF. The ad depicts an artist's rendering of luxury homes superimposed over an actual photograph of a Gaza neighborhood destroyed by IDF terrorists. He’s already been charged with fraud, bribery and breach of trust in three cases filed in 2019, in Case 1000, 2000 and 4000. You don’t need to work for intelligence community but you do get the gist

So no link to a verifiable reputable source then? Where is this advert published so I can see it? Where are the articles linking this development company with senior members of the Israeli govt? I’m not saying there are no links, but you made the statement so burden of truth is on you.

I will answer all your questions but first give me proof and names of 40 beheaded burnt babies in Kibbutz Kfar Aza. Lie repeatedly told by Satanyahu regime. "

This is pretty much all you do...

I'll answer everything after this massive dose of whataboutery...

Only to never answer

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By *irkby coupleCouple 4 weeks ago

Kirkby


"Hopefully when this current situation is over and the rebuilding funds come from wherever, they get used for actual rebuilding and not siphoned away for military means"

Sadly, that is what will probably happen. The terrorist will be back for the money. I seen stuff on the news they was taking most of the aid leaving people with not much more than nothing.

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By *irkby coupleCouple 4 weeks ago

Kirkby

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. "

This is what they've been doing.


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Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

"

Your suggested plan doesn't sound like there would be many/any survivors.


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Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist. "

Are you referring non-terrorist Israeli government, which in your plan would have destroyed everything and killed everyone, in a non-terrorist manner of course.

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist. "

Big question is not if the Jews have history or a connection to the area .. they do.

But the question is are the Jews allowed to have an aphartied racist state?, where palisitinians are under military occupation and either have to sign up to the ideology of their oppressor and the expanding Jewish territory and only the Jews have the uniques right to have a state. Otherwise they're "anti Semitic" ?

Why do the palisitinians not have a right to a state?

7 October is getting tedious. The conflict didn't start on 7 October! It's been dragging on for decades. What happen on 7 October is an attrocity, but the palisitinians have suffered the same attrocities regularly for years!

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist. "

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

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By *utstandingMan 4 weeks ago

HX

It can't be fun defending Israel these days:

https://youtu.be/guxkmRPSTlI.

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model "

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"It can't be fun defending Israel these days:

https://youtu.be/guxkmRPSTlI.

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Exactly! Jews need saving from the far right elements in Isreal.

Idiots that scoff ordinary Jews for being against Zionists .. calling them anti Semitic looneys etc.. even non Jews on here judging Jews for being against zionism is fekin ludicrous!

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

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Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

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Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint

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By *otMe66Man 4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By * votre serviceMan 4 weeks ago

Birmingham, London , Manchester

Amazing, how people will bring their political shit to Fabswingers....this isn't the forum . Fabswingers is about escapism from the real world!!!

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Big question is not if the Jews have history or a connection to the area .. they do.

But the question is are the Jews allowed to have an aphartied racist state?, where palisitinians are under military occupation and either have to sign up to the ideology of their oppressor and the expanding Jewish territory and only the Jews have the uniques right to have a state. Otherwise they're "anti Semitic" ?

Why do the palisitinians not have a right to a state?

7 October is getting tedious. The conflict didn't start on 7 October! It's been dragging on for decades. What happen on 7 October is an attrocity, but the palisitinians have suffered the same attrocities regularly for years!

"

You do know that Arabs are actually politicians in Israel, that doesn't sound very apartheid state or racist. How do you explain that, considering there are no Jews in Hamas?

Mrs x

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Billions of $$$ damaged homes by USA bombs

Is Biden and IDF coughing up for the repairs.

Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

Crime minister Satanyahu has already made real estate deals for beach front properties and taken bribes from his friends in USA.

And you know this how? Do you work in the intelligence community? MI6? Or do you have a verifiable reputable source?

“House on the beach is not a dream," Thousands of Jewish-American families make their Aliyah and immigrate to Israel every year reads an advertisement published by Harey Zahav, an Israeli company notorious for building settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank with links to Israeli Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel, crime minister Satanyahu and IDF. The ad depicts an artist's rendering of luxury homes superimposed over an actual photograph of a Gaza neighborhood destroyed by IDF terrorists. He’s already been charged with fraud, bribery and breach of trust in three cases filed in 2019, in Case 1000, 2000 and 4000. You don’t need to work for intelligence community but you do get the gist

So no link to a verifiable reputable source then? Where is this advert published so I can see it? Where are the articles linking this development company with senior members of the Israeli govt? I’m not saying there are no links, but you made the statement so burden of truth is on you.

I will answer all your questions but first give me proof and names of 40 beheaded burnt babies in Kibbutz Kfar Aza. Lie repeatedly told by Satanyahu regime. "

So let me get this straight…

1. You make an inflammatory claim.

2. I ask you for verifiable proof.

3. You make further claims but provide no proof.

4. I ask you for verifiable proof.

5. You say you will give me proof AFTER I give you proof first for something I have not claimed.

Err yeah ok mate

You are coming across as a disingenuous propagandist not someone who wants a discussion like a grown adult

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

"

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

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By *otMe66Man 4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

This thread topic has become so regular that as one ends another is instantly created to take its place, more or less brought the political forum to a standstill.

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Amazing, how people will bring their political shit to Fabswingers....this isn't the forum . Fabswingers is about escapism from the real world!!! "

And yet you took time to read and post in this forum

You do know how easy it is to avoid it right?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 weeks ago

golden fields


"This thread topic has become so regular that as one ends another is instantly created to take its place, more or less brought the political forum to a standstill."

The Brexit banter threads are much more fun than people desperately trying to defend the mass slaughter of Palestinian civilians threads.

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint "

Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x"

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?"

It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man 4 weeks ago

M20


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x"

Imagine if Italians turned up at your door saying get out, this land is historically Roman.

If that was me I would be part of the resistance. I would be learning how to produce weapons.

Should I not bother if they hold elections after I’m made homeless?

It would be a democracy after all..

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x"

Yes of course I condemn them.

That's the whole point. Some of us are against the killings or mass killings regardless of the ethnicity/nationality/religion of those being killed.

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By *I TwoCouple 4 weeks ago

all around

Romans and Italians ?

Isn't it more like the native American population rising up and kicking the illegal immigrants out of their country, or than aboriginal population kicking the descendants of the convicts out of Australia ?

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

Imagine if Italians turned up at your door saying get out, this land is historically Roman.

If that was me I would be part of the resistance. I would be learning how to produce weapons.

Should I not bother if they hold elections after I’m made homeless?

It would be a democracy after all.."

Why the Romans? I think you’d find the Celts/Britons have a better claim. Lots of them still living in Wales, Scotland, and Cornwall (although DNA in the UK is laced heavily with Viking and Saxon genes and actually very little Roman/Italian as they tended not to interbreed).

Where do we historically draw the line on determining a right to a piece of land? Shall we go back to the Canaanites? They predated the Jews (by centuries) and the Arab Muslims (by Millenia). Do we say the “right” should be determined for how long a race has lived on that land at any point in time?

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x"

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different?

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x"

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

"

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"This thread topic has become so regular that as one ends another is instantly created to take its place, more or less brought the political forum to a standstill."

I'm interested in how double standards are applied to suit political ideologies

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"This thread topic has become so regular that as one ends another is instantly created to take its place, more or less brought the political forum to a standstill.

I'm interested in how double standards are applied to suit political ideologies "

I’m interested in people answering questions when asked

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants? "


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants? "

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

"

Ok so your criteria is if born there. So that includes any Jews born there also?

I do not support Zionism or the actions of the Govt of Israel.

I also do not support the actions of Hamas.

I am not pro-Israeli, not pro-Palestinian, not pro-Jew and not pro-Muslim. I am pro-human and sadly some members of the Israeli and Palestinian communities are acting like blood thirsty animals.

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Ok so your criteria is if born there. So that includes any Jews born there also?

I do not support Zionism or the actions of the Govt of Israel.

I also do not support the actions of Hamas.

I am not pro-Israeli, not pro-Palestinian, not pro-Jew and not pro-Muslim. I am pro-human and sadly some members of the Israeli and Palestinian communities are acting like blood thirsty animals."

You did say Jews born there but seemed to be calling them Palestinians?

Also want to pick up on the point re Gaza being a concentration camp. That is propagandist hyperbole and not remotely true prior to this war. Gaza was a small state with a coastline and a land border with both Egypt and Israel. It had it’s own Govt. Referencing concentration camps and the connotations inherent in that is inflammatory.

On the point of Zionist settlers in the West Bank. I totally agree. Their actions, enabled by current Israeli Govt, have been outrageous and provocative and arguably designed to deliberately inflame the hugely fragile situation.

I have said it before but will again, both sides are guilty, both sides have caused all of this since the 1920s and the partition of the Ottoman Empire.

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Ok so your criteria is if born there. So that includes any Jews born there also?

I do not support Zionism or the actions of the Govt of Israel.

I also do not support the actions of Hamas.

I am not pro-Israeli, not pro-Palestinian, not pro-Jew and not pro-Muslim. I am pro-human and sadly some members of the Israeli and Palestinian communities are acting like blood thirsty animals."

I'm pro universal moral and ethical values.

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By *I TwoCouple 4 weeks ago

all around


"

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

"

I Assume you have never been to Gaza or Israel then ?

The problem with history is it always comes with several versions depending on who wrote it.

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

I Assume you have never been to Gaza or Israel then ?

The problem with history is it always comes with several versions depending on who wrote it."

So in other words you think Isreal's attrocities acceptable in this case

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By *I TwoCouple 4 weeks ago

all around


"

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

I Assume you have never been to Gaza or Israel then ?

The problem with history is it always comes with several versions depending on who wrote it.

So in other words you think Isreal's attrocities acceptable in this case

"

Did I say that or did you make it up ?

I asked if you'd ever been to Israel or Gaza and experienced this concentration camp you mentioned.

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

Imagine if Italians turned up at your door saying get out, this land is historically Roman.

If that was me I would be part of the resistance. I would be learning how to produce weapons.

Should I not bother if they hold elections after I’m made homeless?

It would be a democracy after all.."

Jews have lived there throughout history. There's never been a country called Palestine, so why do Palestinians claim it's theirs.

And Israel was created by the UN in the foties but a two party state was advocated by the League of Nations decades earlier.

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

Yes of course I condemn them.

That's the whole point. Some of us are against the killings or mass killings regardless of the ethnicity/nationality/religion of those being killed. "

So what would be your solution?

In an ideal world mine would be a two party state but that's never going to happen unfortunately,

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different?"

Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Ok so your criteria is if born there. So that includes any Jews born there also?

I do not support Zionism or the actions of the Govt of Israel.

I also do not support the actions of Hamas.

I am not pro-Israeli, not pro-Palestinian, not pro-Jew and not pro-Muslim. I am pro-human and sadly some members of the Israeli and Palestinian communities are acting like blood thirsty animals.

I'm pro universal moral and ethical values."

You appear to advocate no action against terrorists are their actions, that's not particularly moral or ethical.

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

"

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Ok so your criteria is if born there. So that includes any Jews born there also?

I do not support Zionism or the actions of the Govt of Israel.

I also do not support the actions of Hamas.

I am not pro-Israeli, not pro-Palestinian, not pro-Jew and not pro-Muslim. I am pro-human and sadly some members of the Israeli and Palestinian communities are acting like blood thirsty animals.

I'm pro universal moral and ethical values."

But it appears only if that applies to the Palestinians and not to Israelis right? I agree with condemnation of Israeli Govt and IDF. Do you agree with condemnation of Hamas?

People holding myopic one-sided arguments is the main reason the whole situation is such a shitty powder keg.

The sad thing is I bet most Jews and Arabs are virtually the same at a genes level. Religion huh!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

Yes of course I condemn them.

That's the whole point. Some of us are against the killings or mass killings regardless of the ethnicity/nationality/religion of those being killed. So what would be your solution?

In an ideal world mine would be a two party state but that's never going to happen unfortunately,

Mrs x"

Step one. Stop mass killing, bombing, starving Palestinians. This will 100% exacerbate the situation in every day.

Step two. Stop moving the border into Palestinian lands and kicking people out of their homes.

Step three. Allow Palestine to function better as a state.

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x"

You've forgotten the Oslo accords , before a far right assassin condemned any progress in the region by assassinating Yitzhak Rabin.

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Ok so your criteria is if born there. So that includes any Jews born there also?

I do not support Zionism or the actions of the Govt of Israel.

I also do not support the actions of Hamas.

I am not pro-Israeli, not pro-Palestinian, not pro-Jew and not pro-Muslim. I am pro-human and sadly some members of the Israeli and Palestinian communities are acting like blood thirsty animals.

I'm pro universal moral and ethical values.

But it appears only if that applies to the Palestinians and not to Israelis right? I agree with condemnation of Israeli Govt and IDF. Do you agree with condemnation of Hamas?

People holding myopic one-sided arguments is the main reason the whole situation is such a shitty powder keg.

The sad thing is I bet most Jews and Arabs are virtually the same at a genes level. Religion huh! "

But it appears only if that applies to the Palestinians and not to Israelis right? Wrong!

I supported the end of aphartied in South Africa, also the attrocities in rawanda, Bosnia etc.

Yes I agree about the attrocitis of hamas. They're just as bad as the Isrealis.

The last real chance of a settlement was yassa Arafat and yitsak Rabin in the 90s, before some far right tosser condemned the two groups to decades of more conflict

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?"

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

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By *eroy1000Man 4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x"

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or others

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or others"

All down to Isreal.

A deal was nearly done on the 90s but the then Israeli pm yitsak Rabin was assassinated by a far right extremist nutter.

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By *irldnCouple 4 weeks ago

Brighton


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or others"

Search Arab League + three no’s + 1967

Good question re UN. I suspect it would need the security council to all be in agreement, which rarely happens!

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or others"

As of 2005 there has been no Jews in Gaza, they have been ruled by Hamas after an election but there have been no elections since.

The three NOs came about after the war in 1967 war, were at a meeting of the Arab League it was decided that there would be 3 NOs in relation to dealings with Israel.

Thes NOs are:

NO recognition of Israel,

NO negation with Israel,

NO peace with Israel.

Israel has offer 5 plans for a two party state, with the last 2 going beyond what the Palenstinians say they wanted but the 3 NOs have been used by the Arabs for walking out of each negotiation.

Mrs X

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or others

All down to Isreal.

A deal was nearly done on the 90s but the then Israeli pm yitsak Rabin was assassinated by a far right extremist nutter."

That is the case but you are picking and choosing not looking at the whole picture. The Palestinians have refused negotiations on 5 separate occasions since 1947 using the 3 NOs.

So how is that all down on Israel?

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

Yes of course I condemn them.

That's the whole point. Some of us are against the killings or mass killings regardless of the ethnicity/nationality/religion of those being killed. So what would be your solution?

In an ideal world mine would be a two party state but that's never going to happen unfortunately,

Mrs x

Step one. Stop mass killing, bombing, starving Palestinians. This will 100% exacerbate the situation in every day.

Step two. Stop moving the border into Palestinian lands and kicking people out of their homes.

Step three. Allow Palestine to function better as a state.

"

So you ideal world solution would just include Israel, no mention of Hamas.

You really are an antisemitism, or you have a hard on for terrorism.

Did you support the IRA in their perceived struggles?

Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or others

All down to Isreal.

A deal was nearly done on the 90s but the then Israeli pm yitsak Rabin was assassinated by a far right extremist nutter.That is the case but you are picking and choosing not looking at the whole picture. The Palestinians have refused negotiations on 5 separate occasions since 1947 using the 3 NOs.

So how is that all down on Israel?

Mrs x"

You keep referring to the three nos back in the 60s, but relations were looking promising 30 years later with yistak Rabin and Yasser Arafat era when they nearly came to a deal in the 90s.

The opportunity was missed and now we have the dodgy Benjamin netanyahu with his fascist homophobe and a convicted terrorist in the Israeli government.

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

"

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or others

All down to Isreal.

A deal was nearly done on the 90s but the then Israeli pm yitsak Rabin was assassinated by a far right extremist nutter.That is the case but you are picking and choosing not looking at the whole picture. The Palestinians have refused negotiations on 5 separate occasions since 1947 using the 3 NOs.

So how is that all down on Israel?

Mrs x

You keep referring to the three nos back in the 60s, but relations were looking promising 30 years later with yistak Rabin and Yasser Arafat era when they nearly came to a deal in the 90s.

The opportunity was missed and now we have the dodgy Benjamin netanyahu with his fascist homophobe and a convicted terrorist in the Israeli government.

"

Again you are stating a simplistic view. Both sides hated this agreement, Hamas killed hundreds with suicide bombing and other attacks, whilst a Jewish gunman shot up a mosque killing innocent worshipers.

It was doomed well before the assassination, Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey

You do know that once the Oslo Accords broke down, the first shots fired were by the Palestinians.

Infant of all the 5 Israeli Wats, can you tell me how many were started by Israel?

None is the answer,

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"You do know that once the Oslo Accords broke down, the first shots fired were by the Palestinians.

Infant of all the 5 Israeli Wats, can you tell me how many were started by Israel?

None is the answer,

Mrs x"

'In fact of all the Israeli Wars'... even, Mrs c

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By *eroy1000Man 4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

There will be no peace while the Arab states hold on to the 3 'No's'. They've stated that consistently since 1967, whats going to change for them to bring about peace?

Mrs x

Do far, Isreal has only offered violence, invasion, oppression and countless violations of UN resolutions as long as your arm, then

Perhaps if Isreal were to offer something different? Israel has offered solutions based upon a two party state. The last couple of these offered very large concessions to the Palestinians but these were refused due to the 3 'No's', following Khartoum in 1967.

Since 1947 thousands of rocket attacks have been launched at Israel. Each of these an illegal terrorist attack against civilians but you don't acknowledge this.

As a member of the British forces, how many missile attacks due you think would have to land in England before it retaliated? I'm sure it would be less then the fingers of one hand.

Mrs x

What is the opposition to a Palestine state and what are the 3 no's. Could the UN just say as of 1st of January Garza or the west bank is a sovereign state. Is it Israel blocking the idea or othersAs of 2005 there has been no Jews in Gaza, they have been ruled by Hamas after an election but there have been no elections since.

The three NOs came about after the war in 1967 war, were at a meeting of the Arab League it was decided that there would be 3 NOs in relation to dealings with Israel.

Thes NOs are:

NO recognition of Israel,

NO negation with Israel,

NO peace with Israel.

Israel has offer 5 plans for a two party state, with the last 2 going beyond what the Palenstinians say they wanted but the 3 NOs have been used by the Arabs for walking out of each negotiation.

Mrs X"

If they won't recognise, negotiate or be at peace with Israel then that is not an easy set of restrictions to work around. It sounds like they would only be happy if Israel ceased to exist. Hopefully more moderate members will supersede and take the first steps to peace. I doubt they want a repeat of the current situation

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x"

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

"

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c"

So while your arguing the toss over who built what wall which is besides the point, do you also know that in the meantime, that bastard Netanyahu and ontorauge of shits including one of them a convicted terrorist, and another a self confessed fascist and homophobe in the ranks, is preparing his state of the art army to invade Rafha full of refugees?

I wonder how that the result of that will be.

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By *astandFeistyCouple 4 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c

So while your arguing the toss over who built what wall which is besides the point, do you also know that in the meantime, that bastard Netanyahu and ontorauge of shits including one of them a convicted terrorist, and another a self confessed fascist and homophobe in the ranks, is preparing his state of the art army to invade Rafha full of refugees?

I wonder how that the result of that will be.

"

Is it arguing the toss or is it debunking your claim of 'you also state there's no wall'? Sometimes I swear you forget what you're actually debating.

As for Rafah, everyone knows Israel is planning an assault because they've openly said so, which, ironically, is something Norty has said all along, Israel give advance notice.

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c

So while your arguing the toss over who built what wall which is besides the point, do you also know that in the meantime, that bastard Netanyahu and ontorauge of shits including one of them a convicted terrorist, and another a self confessed fascist and homophobe in the ranks, is preparing his state of the art army to invade Rafha full of refugees?

I wonder how that the result of that will be.

"

Hamas don't care about their civilians, they hide behind them.

You seem to have a hardon about calling Israelis terrorists and war criminals but you seem proud of your own efforts protecting them in Bosnia, even if you never fired your gun to attack anyone. You are a contradiction, very confused, Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c

So while your arguing the toss over who built what wall which is besides the point, do you also know that in the meantime, that bastard Netanyahu and ontorauge of shits including one of them a convicted terrorist, and another a self confessed fascist and homophobe in the ranks, is preparing his state of the art army to invade Rafha full of refugees?

I wonder how that the result of that will be.

Hamas don't care about their civilians, they hide behind them.

You seem to have a hardon about calling Israelis terrorists and war criminals but you seem proud of your own efforts protecting them in Bosnia, even if you never fired your gun to attack anyone. You are a contradiction, very confused, Mrs x"

So what your saying is Isreal is allowed to massacre people with impunity because of 7 October. That's your limitation of understanding

You also making up crap about me as if it's "fact" which is fine by me because i feel sympathy for fools who are out of their depth.

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c

So while your arguing the toss over who built what wall which is besides the point, do you also know that in the meantime, that bastard Netanyahu and ontorauge of shits including one of them a convicted terrorist, and another a self confessed fascist and homophobe in the ranks, is preparing his state of the art army to invade Rafha full of refugees?

I wonder how that the result of that will be.

Is it arguing the toss or is it debunking your claim of 'you also state there's no wall'? Sometimes I swear you forget what you're actually debating.

As for Rafah, everyone knows Israel is planning an assault because they've openly said so, which, ironically, is something Norty has said all along, Israel give advance notice. "

If you check the facts before you post, I'd give you more credence.

Btw, on the subject of dropping leaflets, that does not excuse Isreal of responsibility under the UN.

ICJ or anyone else. Shifting people about like that is also questionable.

Starved, no water, sick and injured then told to move miles this way and that ?!

Unbelievable! I had to read you post a few times to digest your ignorance

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c

So while your arguing the toss over who built what wall which is besides the point, do you also know that in the meantime, that bastard Netanyahu and ontorauge of shits including one of them a convicted terrorist, and another a self confessed fascist and homophobe in the ranks, is preparing his state of the art army to invade Rafha full of refugees?

I wonder how that the result of that will be.

Hamas don't care about their civilians, they hide behind them.

You seem to have a hardon about calling Israelis terrorists and war criminals but you seem proud of your own efforts protecting them in Bosnia, even if you never fired your gun to attack anyone. You are a contradiction, very confused, Mrs x

So what your saying is Isreal is allowed to massacre people with impunity because of 7 October. That's your limitation of understanding

You also making up crap about me as if it's "fact" which is fine by me because i feel sympathy for fools who are out of their depth.

"

What am I making up about you?

What?

What massacre? It's not a massacre. I don't agree with the killing of any innocents. I merely poi t out that Hamas go out of their way to kill innocents.

Israeli response, ie going after terrorists has meant innocents have been killed.

Fundamental difference between deliberately attacking innocent civilians and innocent civilians killed during armed conflicts.

So hope that clarifies everything for you. ALL innocent lives lost os a terrible tragedy.

What Hamas is doing is the deliberate targetting of innocent civilians. Israel is responding, and I've said this from the beginning that I don't agree with their response,but Israel are not deliberately targeting civilians.

Big difference.

So that's that one. So what exactly am I making up about you?

Mrs x

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 weeks ago

golden fields


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

Yes of course I condemn them.

That's the whole point. Some of us are against the killings or mass killings regardless of the ethnicity/nationality/religion of those being killed. So what would be your solution?

In an ideal world mine would be a two party state but that's never going to happen unfortunately,

Mrs x

Step one. Stop mass killing, bombing, starving Palestinians. This will 100% exacerbate the situation in every day.

Step two. Stop moving the border into Palestinian lands and kicking people out of their homes.

Step three. Allow Palestine to function better as a state.

So you ideal world solution would just include Israel, no mention of Hamas.

You really are an antisemitism, or you have a hard on for terrorism.

Did you support the IRA in their perceived struggles?

Mrs x"

If you're unable to have a discussion without horrific random unsubstantiated ridiculous insults, then it's utterly pointless continuing the attempt any form of discussion.

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By *astandFeistyCouple 4 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"

Is it arguing the toss or is it debunking your claim of 'you also state there's no wall'? Sometimes I swear you forget what you're actually debating.

As for Rafah, everyone knows Israel is planning an assault because they've openly said so, which, ironically, is something Norty has said all along, Israel give advance notice.

If you check the facts before you post, I'd give you more credence.

Btw, on the subject of dropping leaflets, that does not excuse Isreal of responsibility under the UN.

ICJ or anyone else. Shifting people about like that is also questionable.

Starved, no water, sick and injured then told to move miles this way and that ?!

Unbelievable! I had to read you post a few times to digest your ignorance

"

What ignorance did I display in my post?

What facts do I need to check to enable me to correct what I wrote?

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Is it better to kill babies with drone strikes and missiles?It's not better at all. What about the thousands of missile strikes that terrorists have fired into Israel, killing innocent men, woman and children? Do you condemn that at all?

Mrs x

Yes of course I condemn them.

That's the whole point. Some of us are against the killings or mass killings regardless of the ethnicity/nationality/religion of those being killed. So what would be your solution?

In an ideal world mine would be a two party state but that's never going to happen unfortunately,

Mrs x

Step one. Stop mass killing, bombing, starving Palestinians. This will 100% exacerbate the situation in every day.

Step two. Stop moving the border into Palestinian lands and kicking people out of their homes.

Step three. Allow Palestine to function better as a state.

So you ideal world solution would just include Israel, no mention of Hamas.

You really are an antisemitism, or you have a hard on for terrorism.

Did you support the IRA in their perceived struggles?

Mrs x

If you're unable to have a discussion without horrific random unsubstantiated ridiculous insults, then it's utterly pointless continuing the attempt any form of discussion. "

What unsubstantiated insults?

Mrs x

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By *AJMLKTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Burley


"Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

Israel should just flatten the rest of Gaza and take over the land. Those who want to stay, let them and those who want to leave, let them.

Obviously the rebuilding won’t happen over night but in time to come living in a place controlled by a democratic government will be far better and safer than living in a place controlled by terrorist.

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Mother Teresa was a super model

Tell something new. Israel has been flattening Palestinians villages since 1948 and expelled millions from their homes. To create the State of Israel, Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. Approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed in 1948, with more than 750,000 expelled from their homes and becoming refugees – the climax of the Zionist movement’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Today, the refugees and their descendants number more than seven million. Many still languish in refugee camps in neighbouring Arab countries, waiting to return to their homeland.

Israel has been harvesting organs from the bodies of Palestinians. Geneva based “The Euro-Mediterranean” Human Rights NGO said it had documented IDF confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south. It cited remarks by medical professionals in Gaza, who found that vital organs, such as livers, kidneys, hearts, cochleas and corneas, were missing in the bodies released by IDF terrorists.

Yep. And after 76 years of conflict you'd think it's time to make lasting peace instead!

But noooooo! Let's have more of the same shite that's never ever worked! Isreal needs rescuing from genocidal mass murdering maniacs like netanyahu..

Calling Israel a democracy is like saying Jimmy Savile was a saint Jimmy Saville was a c**t be even he never burnt babies alive.

Israel is the only democracy in the area,

Mrs x

Isreal is s colony made up of foreigners with foreign born netanyahu..

An Israeli government with a convicted terrorist and another minister, a self confessed fascist and homophobe.

Netanyahu also is suspected of links with the Rabin assassination.. so yeah a marvelous example if democracy there

A colony of which empire?

As per other points above, legitimate and ancestral claim to these lands is clearly difficult to establish. How far back in time do you go before you say “these are the most entitled people” and therefore their descendants?

As far I'm concerned. People who were born there, eh

Palisitinians. Whether they're Jews, Arab Christian or whatever.

What I have a problem with is people were thrown off their land, dispossessed by force, to make way for a Zionist country Isreal, for foreigners to fly in and occupy, penned into the world's largest concentration camp and oppressed.

Do you think that's acceptable?

Do you think that was acceptable when it happened to the Jews?

Yep. Because Jews in Germany considered themselves German.

The Jews of Poland considered themselves polish etc..

But they've delivered onto the palisitinians the same attrocities which is just as bad in context

You really haven't got a grip of this at all have you. Yes there are Jews all over the world who consider themselves nationals of the state they live in. But there are plenty of Jews who felt displaced from their homeland. Lots of Jews lived there already. Throughout their entire history, for thousands of years, Jews have been persecuted and so their historical home was given back to them, so they could have a safe place to call home.

And how you can say that they have visited the same atrocities on anyone, that were visited upon them is such a cruel remark.

I don't agree with their response at the moment but to compare it with the millions of Jews killed in the 'Final Solution' is just ridiculously, Mrs x

I'm not the one employing double standards though am I.

Your hiding behind narratives and assumptions to discredit me.

You also try to compare the ira and hamas argument, besides accusing me of being an hamas supporter of course and virtue signalling.

All quite boring..

As I've said before, UN investigators have declared Isreal an apartheid state, amnesty international and possibly more organisations which you argue against.

You also state there's no wall or fence . It's a giant one built by Isreal to restrict movement of Gazans that hamas bulldosed to get through FFS.

You need to check comments you make beforehand

I acknowledge there is a wall, I also stated Eygpt has a similar wall. Gaza said Egypt was right to build a wall but was silent on israels. Probably since Egypts wasn't put up by Hews,

Mrs c

So while your arguing the toss over who built what wall which is besides the point, do you also know that in the meantime, that bastard Netanyahu and ontorauge of shits including one of them a convicted terrorist, and another a self confessed fascist and homophobe in the ranks, is preparing his state of the art army to invade Rafha full of refugees?

I wonder how that the result of that will be.

Hamas don't care about their civilians, they hide behind them.

You seem to have a hardon about calling Israelis terrorists and war criminals but you seem proud of your own efforts protecting them in Bosnia, even if you never fired your gun to attack anyone. You are a contradiction, very confused, Mrs x

So what your saying is Isreal is allowed to massacre people with impunity because of 7 October. That's your limitation of understanding

You also making up crap about me as if it's "fact" which is fine by me because i feel sympathy for fools who are out of their depth.

What am I making up about you?

What?

What massacre? It's not a massacre. I don't agree with the killing of any innocents. I merely poi t out that Hamas go out of their way to kill innocents.

Israeli response, ie going after terrorists has meant innocents have been killed.

Fundamental difference between deliberately attacking innocent civilians and innocent civilians killed during armed conflicts.

So hope that clarifies everything for you. ALL innocent lives lost os a terrible tragedy.

What Hamas is doing is the deliberate targetting of innocent civilians. Israel is responding, and I've said this from the beginning that I don't agree with their response,but Israel are not deliberately targeting civilians.

Big difference.

So that's that one. So what exactly am I making up about you?

Mrs x"

You are quite correct. Sadly, war will always have its share of civilian casualties, but Hamas are going out of their way to ensure that these numbers are high, so as to garner international sympathy. Let's not forget that "Hamas" are not some rag-tag gang of misfits, like some sort of Middle Eastern A-Team. They are Palestinian citizens. They are the husbands, fathers, uncles, sons and brothers of those they are causing the slaughter of. This makes them even more despicable, if that is possible, but they found a way. They are cowards. For this all to stop, they need to give back the hostages, or more likely - the bodies of the hostages. They need to come out with their hands up and surrender themselves and ALL their weapons. Secure and anonymous ways to report those who have not surrendered need to be made available to the innocent citizens of Palestine, who will then need a lot of international aid to get them back to as normal life as possible. Hamas needs to be eradicated, for the good of Palestine, and the good of the world.

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By *coptoCouple 4 weeks ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

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By *an DeLyonMan 4 weeks ago

County Durham


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit..."

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

"

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 4 weeks ago

Wallasey

Could you also answer my previous question please?

Mrs x

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By *exguru_xxxMan 4 weeks ago

London

Holocaust is the genocidal crime against people based on their ethnicity. This genocide could be perpetrated through different means such as poison gas, guns, tanks, air raids, biological warfare, economical siege, starvation, destruction of vital natural resources, eviction into desert, and deprivation of basic vital materials among others, to produce the same result; mass deaths. For the last 75 years Palestinians have been suffering from all these methods in a deliberate programmed holocaust. The perpetrators are not Nazis, but those who claim to be survivors, and their descendents, of Nazi-caused holocaust; Zionist Israelis. This holocaust did not target only Gaza, although Gaza is now suffering its main assault, but also targeted every Palestinian community in the West Bank. Netanyahu no different from Hitler.

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x"

Still in denial of reality eh?

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

"

No not at all, would just like an answer so I can see what laws been broken.

I'd also like an answer about any 'lies' I've said about you.

You seem to like the statements but dont seem to like giving any evidence or facts to back them up.

Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

No not at all, would just like an answer so I can see what laws been broken.

I'd also like an answer about any 'lies' I've said about you.

You seem to like the statements but dont seem to like giving any evidence or facts to back them up.

Mrs x"

I'll correct you here;

I do like the statements and also give firm evidence and facts to back them up.

It's a waste of time with you because you retort with

a blend of opinionated crap, (the IRA argument among other drivel) supported by whatever professional Isreali bull shitters say in the media

It's elementary international law. If your too pigheaded to admit to that then that's your problem, not mine.

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man 3 weeks ago

M20


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

"

Article 7 of the UN arms trade treaty and article 1 of the Geneva conventions have both been applied to this case.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

No not at all, would just like an answer so I can see what laws been broken.

I'd also like an answer about any 'lies' I've said about you.

You seem to like the statements but dont seem to like giving any evidence or facts to back them up.

Mrs x

I'll correct you here;

I do like the statements and also give firm evidence and facts to back them up.

It's a waste of time with you because you retort with

a blend of opinionated crap, (the IRA argument among other drivel) supported by whatever professional Isreali bull shitters say in the media

It's elementary international law. If your too pigheaded to admit to that then that's your problem, not mine.

"

If its that elementary just quote it, I doubt you can but try.

The IRA is a very valid question, one I gave to you as a loyal ex British forces, serving proudly in the Medical Corps, I thought you'd be able to see this but you can't.

The situation there was so similar to the middle east. A disputed land, separated by one country. With one population feeling oppressed, going on for centuries, even involving a religious element.

So whys that a ridiculous thing to ask if you supported the IRA?

I suspect you cannot answer that because of your strong, honourable ties to our proud military.

It would seem so strange that you would support fighting terrorism in one land but support terrorism in another land. This despite the very obvious similarities. Very strange.

So is that simple enough for you, or would you like me to write it in crayon?

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

Article 7 of the UN arms trade treaty and article 1 of the Geneva conventions have both been applied to this case.

"

They may be but until given due process that's not the current state.

Israel may be guilty, they may not but there needs to be due process.

At this moment in time the UK say that arms sales are legal.

Mrs x.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

Article 7 of the UN arms trade treaty and article 1 of the Geneva conventions have both been applied to this case.

They may be but until given due process that's not the current state.

Israel may be guilty, they may not but there needs to be due process.

At this moment in time the UK say that arms sales are legal.

Mrs x."

Just in case you need more on this -

'The high court has dismissed a case urging the suspension of UK arms sales to Israel.

The legal challenge against the UK Department for Business and Trade was launched in December by the Palestinian human rights organisation Al-Haq and the UK-based Global Legal Action Network (Glan).

The organisations, which are seeking to overturn the court’s decision, applied for a judicial review of the government’s export licences for the sale of British weapons capable of being used in Israel’s action in Gaza.' From The Guardian 20th Feb 2024.

From GLANs own website - 'Astonishingly, the Court decided in February that it is not even arguable that the government acted unlawfully in finding that there is no clear risk that British weapons are being used in violation of international humanitarian law. However we have been successful in securing an oral hearing this month to argue our case in court that a full hearing is needed to hold the government to account.'

Mrs x

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man 3 weeks ago

M20

60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

"

The government is not the judiciary. We have separation of powers in our system of government.

You should remember that in each case KC will have an opposing KC. Each giving very different opinions.

I'm not saying either side is right, I do not know but nobody is guilty just on the say so of anyone, unless it's gone through due process.

That's all I'm saying and the current position is that in the UK it's not illegal to sell arms to Israel.

You may not like it, I may not like it but that's the law right now.

It might however change in on the 26th April, but then again it might not.

Mrs x

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man 3 weeks ago

M20


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

The government is not the judiciary. We have separation of powers in our system of government.

You should remember that in each case KC will have an opposing KC. Each giving very different opinions.

I'm not saying either side is right, I do not know but nobody is guilty just on the say so of anyone, unless it's gone through due process.

That's all I'm saying and the current position is that in the UK it's not illegal to sell arms to Israel.

You may not like it, I may not like it but that's the law right now.

It might however change in on the 26th April, but then again it might not.

Mrs x"

Is that at UK law or international law?

UK law has to fulfil international law where we are signatories.

If Domestic law doesn’t fulfil these obligations then the domestic law is wrong and cannot be applied.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

The government is not the judiciary. We have separation of powers in our system of government.

You should remember that in each case KC will have an opposing KC. Each giving very different opinions.

I'm not saying either side is right, I do not know but nobody is guilty just on the say so of anyone, unless it's gone through due process.

That's all I'm saying and the current position is that in the UK it's not illegal to sell arms to Israel.

You may not like it, I may not like it but that's the law right now.

It might however change in on the 26th April, but then again it might not.

Mrs x

Is that at UK law or international law?

UK law has to fulfil international law where we are signatories.

If Domestic law doesn’t fulfil these obligations then the domestic law is wrong and cannot be applied."

Sorry don't think I read this right. I think what you are talking about is if an existing UK law is superseded by International Law, so Working Time Directive changed the law in the UK for working hours as we were a member of the EU at that time.

But that's not the case here I think. UK law still applies and this was decided at the High Court, which stated it wasn't illegal but it's dueto go to appeal on the 26th of this month.

So according to the UK it still is legal.

Mrs x

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By *otMe66Man 3 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

"

That number is approx 12% of the Kings Council. Not so impactful now we know 88% of the KC is not saying the above.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

As for the government just ignoring advice, they actually listen to Parlimentary Council and it's this body that drafts laws for the government,

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

That number is approx 12% of the Kings Council. Not so impactful now we know 88% of the KC is not saying the above."

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By *eroy1000Man 3 weeks ago

milton keynes

If the UK is breaking any international law then so must many countries, not least Germany, Italy and if course the U.S.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

They aren't, it's just Twitter getting in the way. All the soundbite, click bait headlines and general noise.

Everybody picking a 'side' from their own extensive personal experience.

If Sharon and Dave, from Cleethorpes are passing it of as fact then it must be true.After all they've been to Sharm for the last five years and one of the waiters, not one they actually spoke to, was from Gaza, the Wrst Bank or maybe Cairo.

Auntie Brenda from the Runcorn is in the opposing corner. She met two lovely guys from Denmark and Peru, who showed her a really nice time, but she wasnt a slut, there were no sluts in the 60's just Free Love. This was in a lovely kibbutz, just outside of Eilat, sometime in the 60s and won't have a word said against these nice Jewish lads.

I swear thats what the majority of social media is like.

It's like that old computing term, GIGO, Garbage In, Garbage Out... it's quite trying,

Mrs x

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man 3 weeks ago

M20


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

That number is approx 12% of the Kings Council. Not so impactful now we know 88% of the KC is not saying the above. "

You imply that 88% of KC’s say it’s not illegal. That is not true.

Your argument would say that the opinions of KCs only count if more than 50% write a letter.

One learned opinion can be enough.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

That number is approx 12% of the Kings Council. Not so impactful now we know 88% of the KC is not saying the above.

You imply that 88% of KC’s say it’s not illegal. That is not true.

Your argument would say that the opinions of KCs only count if more than 50% write a letter.

One learned opinion can be enough."

Doesn't matter how many KCs write, that's nothing therapist changed in the UK,

Mrs x

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man 3 weeks ago

M20


"If the UK is breaking any international law then so must many countries, not least Germany, Italy and if course the U.S. "

Correct

I only pay taxes to one of those.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

That number is approx 12% of the Kings Council. Not so impactful now we know 88% of the KC is not saying the above.

You imply that 88% of KC’s say it’s not illegal. That is not true.

Your argument would say that the opinions of KCs only count if more than 50% write a letter.

One learned opinion can be enough."

Hedidnt say that either. He said 12% voiced their opinion but 88%, for whatever reason, chose not to.

He was just pointing out whilst 60 sounds a large amount, it's actually a small percentage of KCs that express an opinion.

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"If the UK is breaking any international law then so must many countries, not least Germany, Italy and if course the U.S.

Correct

I only pay taxes to one of those."

One of the ones not breaking the law...currently,

Mrs x

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By *otMe66Man 3 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"60 QC’s have written a letter to our government stating that the supply of weapons to Israel is a crime.

Our government has chosen to ignore their expert advice. That was a political choice. They responded like children who cover their ears and shout “not listening”.

That number is approx 12% of the Kings Council. Not so impactful now we know 88% of the KC is not saying the above.

You imply that 88% of KC’s say it’s not illegal. That is not true.

Your argument would say that the opinions of KCs only count if more than 50% write a letter.

One learned opinion can be enough."

You constructed what you thought I meant, when I clearly say 88% are not saying what the 12% are saying. I make no reference to them saying illegal or legal.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

You'd think one learned opinion would be enough but evidently its not...

Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

No not at all, would just like an answer so I can see what laws been broken.

I'd also like an answer about any 'lies' I've said about you.

You seem to like the statements but dont seem to like giving any evidence or facts to back them up.

Mrs x

I'll correct you here;

I do like the statements and also give firm evidence and facts to back them up.

It's a waste of time with you because you retort with

a blend of opinionated crap, (the IRA argument among other drivel) supported by whatever professional Isreali bull shitters say in the media

It's elementary international law. If your too pigheaded to admit to that then that's your problem, not mine.

If its that elementary just quote it, I doubt you can but try.

The IRA is a very valid question, one I gave to you as a loyal ex British forces, serving proudly in the Medical Corps, I thought you'd be able to see this but you can't.

The situation there was so similar to the middle east. A disputed land, separated by one country. With one population feeling oppressed, going on for centuries, even involving a religious element.

So whys that a ridiculous thing to ask if you supported the IRA?

I suspect you cannot answer that because of your strong, honourable ties to our proud military.

It would seem so strange that you would support fighting terrorism in one land but support terrorism in another land. This despite the very obvious similarities. Very strange.

So is that simple enough for you, or would you like me to write it in crayon?

Mrs x"

Yawn...

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"To even suggest that the US (because, for example, its Mk 84 bombs are being used by Israel to flatten Gaza), or Germany (30% of Israel’s armaments are sourced from Germany), the UK, Canada etc. should in any way be responsible for reparations is as silly as saying that Ford, BMW or whatever are responsible for an M25 pile-up or a hit’n’run fatality.

Well, they made and sold the cars, didn’t they? And they made ‘em capable of driving at 150 mph even though there’s a 70 mph blanket limit...

Allies of Israel, including the UK, and backers of Palestinian armed groups should suspend arms sales and any other military assistance. That's international law.

What International Law, can you quote it please? Mrs x

Still in denial of reality eh?

No not at all, would just like an answer so I can see what laws been broken.

I'd also like an answer about any 'lies' I've said about you.

You seem to like the statements but dont seem to like giving any evidence or facts to back them up.

Mrs x

I'll correct you here;

I do like the statements and also give firm evidence and facts to back them up.

It's a waste of time with you because you retort with

a blend of opinionated crap, (the IRA argument among other drivel) supported by whatever professional Isreali bull shitters say in the media

It's elementary international law. If your too pigheaded to admit to that then that's your problem, not mine.

If its that elementary just quote it, I doubt you can but try.

The IRA is a very valid question, one I gave to you as a loyal ex British forces, serving proudly in the Medical Corps, I thought you'd be able to see this but you can't.

The situation there was so similar to the middle east. A disputed land, separated by one country. With one population feeling oppressed, going on for centuries, even involving a religious element.

So whys that a ridiculous thing to ask if you supported the IRA?

I suspect you cannot answer that because of your strong, honourable ties to our proud military.

It would seem so strange that you would support fighting terrorism in one land but support terrorism in another land. This despite the very obvious similarities. Very strange.

So is that simple enough for you, or would you like me to write it in crayon?

Mrs x"

I think I'll go to the local pub and argue this with a slobbering d*unk.

I'll get more sense of of him

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

You can do what you want, but you never give facts or evidence.

You mention UN Declerations but the UN hasnt given any here. Certain UN officials have 'declared, certain things, one being it 'LOOKS' like an apartheid state. But this is not the UN, it's it's employees, totally different.

They have give 2 RESOLUTIONS for ceasefire.

But they are not binding unless the Security Council issues them. So they cannot have breached them.

As mentioned to another poster the UK has not traded illegally or broke any International Law doing so. This was decided by the High Court. Maybe they are making it up like you say I am.

You keep calling Israelis Zionists bit that's not the case, some are, most arent, some aren't even Jewish, some are even Palestinian originally.

You mention a convicted terrorist in the Knessett, who is this? If you mean

Itamar Ben-Gvir, he is far right Jewish minister. Whilst not a very nice man, the most serious charge is that of Inciting Racism. He is not a terrorist and has not been convicted of this. If there's someone else you are thinking of I'd love to know but expect you to do your usual and fob it off with nothing to back you up.

You seem so proud of your role in the protection of Muslims during the Bosnian War. This in itself is laudable. But the absolute irony, when you call the IDF and the Israeli leaders war criminals, even though right now they aren't and may not be found to be, is that the Muslim leaders you 'defended' actually had 25 leaders tried for war crimes.

You cannot make this up....honestly someone so vehement about those who commit war crimes and he's actually fighting, in a war, toprotectthem and their barbarous activities.

As for you being sorry for me being out of my depth, don't feel sorry. I've never met a guy giving more of an impression that they'd be out of their depth in a carpark puddle.

Hope you have a lovely drink with your pissed friend, unfortunately you've hit rock bottom. Good news though, you've started to dig !!!

Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"You can do what you want, but you never give facts or evidence.

You mention UN Declerations but the UN hasnt given any here. Certain UN officials have 'declared, certain things, one being it 'LOOKS' like an apartheid state. But this is not the UN, it's it's employees, totally different.

They have give 2 RESOLUTIONS for ceasefire.

But they are not binding unless the Security Council issues them. So they cannot have breached them.

As mentioned to another poster the UK has not traded illegally or broke any International Law doing so. This was decided by the High Court. Maybe they are making it up like you say I am.

You keep calling Israelis Zionists bit that's not the case, some are, most arent, some aren't even Jewish, some are even Palestinian originally.

You mention a convicted terrorist in the Knessett, who is this? If you mean

Itamar Ben-Gvir, he is far right Jewish minister. Whilst not a very nice man, the most serious charge is that of Inciting Racism. He is not a terrorist and has not been convicted of this. If there's someone else you are thinking of I'd love to know but expect you to do your usual and fob it off with nothing to back you up.

You seem so proud of your role in the protection of Muslims during the Bosnian War. This in itself is laudable. But the absolute irony, when you call the IDF and the Israeli leaders war criminals, even though right now they aren't and may not be found to be, is that the Muslim leaders you 'defended' actually had 25 leaders tried for war crimes.

You cannot make this up....honestly someone so vehement about those who commit war crimes and he's actually fighting, in a war, toprotectthem and their barbarous activities.

As for you being sorry for me being out of my depth, don't feel sorry. I've never met a guy giving more of an impression that they'd be out of their depth in a carpark puddle.

Hope you have a lovely drink with your pissed friend, unfortunately you've hit rock bottom. Good news though, you've started to dig !!!

Mrs x"

Lol.. put your crayons away before you hurt yourself

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"You can do what you want, but you never give facts or evidence.

You mention UN Declerations but the UN hasnt given any here. Certain UN officials have 'declared, certain things, one being it 'LOOKS' like an apartheid state. But this is not the UN, it's it's employees, totally different.

They have give 2 RESOLUTIONS for ceasefire.

But they are not binding unless the Security Council issues them. So they cannot have breached them.

As mentioned to another poster the UK has not traded illegally or broke any International Law doing so. This was decided by the High Court. Maybe they are making it up like you say I am.

You keep calling Israelis Zionists bit that's not the case, some are, most arent, some aren't even Jewish, some are even Palestinian originally.

You mention a convicted terrorist in the Knessett, who is this? If you mean

Itamar Ben-Gvir, he is far right Jewish minister. Whilst not a very nice man, the most serious charge is that of Inciting Racism. He is not a terrorist and has not been convicted of this. If there's someone else you are thinking of I'd love to know but expect you to do your usual and fob it off with nothing to back you up.

You seem so proud of your role in the protection of Muslims during the Bosnian War. This in itself is laudable. But the absolute irony, when you call the IDF and the Israeli leaders war criminals, even though right now they aren't and may not be found to be, is that the Muslim leaders you 'defended' actually had 25 leaders tried for war crimes.

You cannot make this up....honestly someone so vehement about those who commit war crimes and he's actually fighting, in a war, toprotectthem and their barbarous activities.

As for you being sorry for me being out of my depth, don't feel sorry. I've never met a guy giving more of an impression that they'd be out of their depth in a carpark puddle.

Hope you have a lovely drink with your pissed friend, unfortunately you've hit rock bottom. Good news though, you've started to dig !!!

Mrs x

Lol.. put your crayons away before you hurt yourself

"

How long did it take to come up with that, looks like hours and it's rubbish lol.

I'd have much .ore respect if you could come up with just one FACT about anything you say.

What about it, do you fancy having an adult debate???

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

Come on, pretty please.....

It's obvious your not great about the UN, International Law but what about an easy one, hey?

Name the convicted terrorist politician, that's just a FACT you'll just be pointing everyone in the right direction...easy.

Go on, you say all sorts of shit that's nowhere near the truth and now you can prove you can actually say something that's true......

Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"You can do what you want, but you never give facts or evidence.

You mention UN Declerations but the UN hasnt given any here. Certain UN officials have 'declared, certain things, one being it 'LOOKS' like an apartheid state. But this is not the UN, it's it's employees, totally different.

They have give 2 RESOLUTIONS for ceasefire.

But they are not binding unless the Security Council issues them. So they cannot have breached them.

As mentioned to another poster the UK has not traded illegally or broke any International Law doing so. This was decided by the High Court. Maybe they are making it up like you say I am.

You keep calling Israelis Zionists bit that's not the case, some are, most arent, some aren't even Jewish, some are even Palestinian originally.

You mention a convicted terrorist in the Knessett, who is this? If you mean

Itamar Ben-Gvir, he is far right Jewish minister. Whilst not a very nice man, the most serious charge is that of Inciting Racism. He is not a terrorist and has not been convicted of this. If there's someone else you are thinking of I'd love to know but expect you to do your usual and fob it off with nothing to back you up.

You seem so proud of your role in the protection of Muslims during the Bosnian War. This in itself is laudable. But the absolute irony, when you call the IDF and the Israeli leaders war criminals, even though right now they aren't and may not be found to be, is that the Muslim leaders you 'defended' actually had 25 leaders tried for war crimes.

You cannot make this up....honestly someone so vehement about those who commit war crimes and he's actually fighting, in a war, toprotectthem and their barbarous activities.

As for you being sorry for me being out of my depth, don't feel sorry. I've never met a guy giving more of an impression that they'd be out of their depth in a carpark puddle.

Hope you have a lovely drink with your pissed friend, unfortunately you've hit rock bottom. Good news though, you've started to dig !!!

Mrs x

Lol.. put your crayons away before you hurt yourself

How long did it take to come up with that, looks like hours and it's rubbish lol.

I'd have much .ore respect if you could come up with just one FACT about anything you say.

What about it, do you fancy having an adult debate???

Mrs x"

Your spoiling the threads for others on here

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey

I'm only commenting on your posts and lack of facts or evidence, I'll stop now because it's obvious you have no intention of supplying either,

Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"I'm only commenting on your posts and lack of facts or evidence, I'll stop now because it's obvious you have no intention of supplying either,

Mrs x"

Yes you do that!

You obviously know everything

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"I'm only commenting on your posts and lack of facts or evidence, I'll stop now because it's obvious you have no intention of supplying either,

Mrs x"

When I get you telling me what my experinces were in the army when you weren't there tells me lots about you..lol jeez

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 3 weeks ago

nearby

News reporting imminent invasion of Rafah, IDF reported to have bought thousands of tents.

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"News reporting imminent invasion of Rafah, IDF reported to have bought thousands of tents. "

Will the IDF behave?!

Knowing the world is watching. I hope do but doubt it somehow

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London

As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower "
Not burnt any babies yet, Mrs x

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower "

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

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By *irldnCouple 3 weeks ago

Brighton


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed. "

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously. "

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 3 weeks ago

golden fields


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously. "

In fairness, it was fairly widely reported. Google search "Lior Narkis" and push the "news" button.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en"

Just because one person says something doesn't mean that everyone is thinking or doing similar.

It's fairly easy to find examples of both sides having individuals or small groups behaving in an abhorrent way.

This happens on all sides of a conflict unfortunately.

Mrs x

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By *astandFeistyCouple 3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en"

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew..."

Does it look like propaganda?

Mrs x

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew..."

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist.

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By *astandFeistyCouple 3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. "

Funny you have some weird anecdote to back your claim when almost every other transalation I've seen in the last 6 months (that's how old this is) has disagreed with the original.

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. "

Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c"

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants

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By *ortyairCouple 3 weeks ago

Wallasey


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants "

You cannot condemn terrorist behaviour can you. IDF are soldiers, Hamas are terrorists, and you cannot condemn their atrocities on religious grounds, yet you condemn singing nasty songs so long as Jews are singing it

Mrs x

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By *an DeLyonMan 3 weeks ago

County Durham


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants You cannot condemn terrorist behaviour can you. IDF are soldiers, Hamas are terrorists, and you cannot condemn their atrocities on religious grounds, yet you condemn singing nasty songs so long as Jews are singing it

Mrs x"

The IDF and any other armed groups can be proscribed as a terrorist group, like a recent move to proscribe the IRG.

But international law is a political tool so is only used cynically to advantage the west.

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By *eroy1000Man 3 weeks ago

milton keynes


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants "

I can't work out your answer about Hamas and if you support them or not. I do understand your position on the IDF but can you clarify if you support Hamas or not with a simple yes or no please.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man 3 weeks ago

nearby


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants You cannot condemn terrorist behaviour can you. IDF are soldiers, Hamas are terrorists, and you cannot condemn their atrocities on religious grounds, yet you condemn singing nasty songs so long as Jews are singing it

Mrs x"

Hamas killed 1200

IDF has killed 34,000, injured 78,000, made 1.5 million homeless

On those numbers both are terrorists, with IDF clearly in the lead

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants

I can't work out your answer about Hamas and if you support them or not. I do understand your position on the IDF but can you clarify if you support Hamas or not with a simple yes or no please."

I condemn Hamas as much as YOU condemn IDF Nazi terrorists committing holocaust against innocent Palestinian women and children. So my answer is “Do you condemn killing of innocent Palestinians by IDF terrorists?”

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants You cannot condemn terrorist behaviour can you. IDF are soldiers, Hamas are terrorists, and you cannot condemn their atrocities on religious grounds, yet you condemn singing nasty songs so long as Jews are singing it

Mrs x

Hamas killed 1200

IDF has killed 34,000, injured 78,000, made 1.5 million homeless

On those numbers both are terrorists, with IDF clearly in the lead "

IDF is ISIS

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London


"As part of ongoing genocide, which started on 7 October 2023, the Idf is using new disturbing techniques to intimidate, lure, and target Palestinian civilians in the central Gaza Strip’s Nuseirat refugee camp. Testimonies from camp residents, which were provided to the Euro-Med Monitor team, confirm that the sound of women screaming and babies crying was heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday. When some of the residents went out to investigate and tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadcopter drones. The sounds they had heard were in fact recordings played by the Israeli drones, with the intent of forcing the camp’s residents out into the streets, where they could be easily targeted by snipers and other weaponry. When you think these sick B4sards couldn’t get any lower

Disturbing videos emerging of IDf soldiers dancing over racist chants towards black people.

Gaza, you black woman! Gaza, you trash! Gaza you bitch! Gaza, you daughter of a huge whore, just like your mother Gaza!” – Lior Narkis.

The popular Israeli singer Lior Narkis sang these disturbing and deeply insulting words to a wild and ecstatic crowd of dancing and cheering Israeli soldiers who received them with wild and loud expressions of joy, adulation, praise and adoration as he went on a tour of numerous Israeli military camps whilst Gaza was being bombed.

If you do not provide a source then you cannot expect people to take this kind of post seriously.

You can watch it here

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1724947356930441518?lang=en

I do wonder how many people believing this speak Hebrew...

Funny you say this. My fwb is Hasidic Jew and fluent in Hebrew and forwarded this to me. Are you going to say now that she is antisemitic for being anti zionist. Are you anti Hamas too,

Mrs c

What khammas got to do with IDF terrorists dancing obver racists chants You cannot condemn terrorist behaviour can you. IDF are soldiers, Hamas are terrorists, and you cannot condemn their atrocities on religious grounds, yet you condemn singing nasty songs so long as Jews are singing it

Mrs x"

You keep repeating yourself. It’s getting boring. Yawn

IDF committing genocide on religious grounds too. Land promised by imaginary friend

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London

From the river to the sea. Palestine will be free

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By *exguru_xxxMan 3 weeks ago

London

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