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"“A private Egyptian company, alleged to have strong links in the past to the state, has made a lucrative business out of ushering several hundred Gazans across the border each day. It is understood that Hala Consulting and Tourism, which holds an effective monopoly on commercial transit through the Rafah crossing, charges adults upwards of $5,000 (£4,000) to flee, with those under 16 paying $2,500. Analysis by The Sunday Times of the daily lists that detail the names and ages of Gazans registered with Hala to enter Egypt suggests that the company may have made at least $88 million (£70 million) since the beginning of March from evacuating more than 20,000 people. At the start of April, the number of names on these lists each day increased from around 295 to 475, potentially boosting the average daily revenue from a minimum of $1.25 million to $2 million a day. Some Gazans who had used these “co-ordination services” to evacuate said that they had paid more than $5,000 to register. Some paid double.” Also… “The Egyptian government is anxious to prevent a mass displacement of Gazans onto its territory, fearing that such a development could become permanent.” Not exactly rallying round to support their fellow Arabs!" Is this criminal or is it sanctioned by the Egyptian government? Mrs x | |||
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"“A private Egyptian company, alleged to have strong links in the past to the state, has made a lucrative business out of ushering several hundred Gazans across the border each day. It is understood that Hala Consulting and Tourism, which holds an effective monopoly on commercial transit through the Rafah crossing, charges adults upwards of $5,000 (£4,000) to flee, with those under 16 paying $2,500. Analysis by The Sunday Times of the daily lists that detail the names and ages of Gazans registered with Hala to enter Egypt suggests that the company may have made at least $88 million (£70 million) since the beginning of March from evacuating more than 20,000 people. At the start of April, the number of names on these lists each day increased from around 295 to 475, potentially boosting the average daily revenue from a minimum of $1.25 million to $2 million a day. Some Gazans who had used these “co-ordination services” to evacuate said that they had paid more than $5,000 to register. Some paid double.” Also… “The Egyptian government is anxious to prevent a mass displacement of Gazans onto its territory, fearing that such a development could become permanent.” Not exactly rallying round to support their fellow Arabs!" Interesting (and shocking as well). . Does the payment just cover safe transportation in to Egypt from Rafah, or is there additional benefit included as well ? (Eg, automatic asylum status in Egypt, help from the authorities, etc ?). (I'm not condoning asylum status or rights being sold to the highest bidder by the way), but rather querying what the folks paying actually receive for their money. . If it's just a ticket to move a few metres through a checkpoint, which that person behind you cannot afford, then there is a bigger problem here. | |||
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"Shock horror people making money out of war, who would of seen that coming" Remember Halliburton? They made $8 billion out of the Iraq war supplying logistics. So. No news in this news huh? | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims." but there is no money in helping, why would u want to help wen you can charge instead | |||
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"“A private Egyptian company, alleged to have strong links in the past to the state, has made a lucrative business out of ushering several hundred Gazans across the border each day. It is understood that Hala Consulting and Tourism, which holds an effective monopoly on commercial transit through the Rafah crossing, charges adults upwards of $5,000 (£4,000) to flee, with those under 16 paying $2,500. Analysis by The Sunday Times of the daily lists that detail the names and ages of Gazans registered with Hala to enter Egypt suggests that the company may have made at least $88 million (£70 million) since the beginning of March from evacuating more than 20,000 people. At the start of April, the number of names on these lists each day increased from around 295 to 475, potentially boosting the average daily revenue from a minimum of $1.25 million to $2 million a day. Some Gazans who had used these “co-ordination services” to evacuate said that they had paid more than $5,000 to register. Some paid double.” Also… “The Egyptian government is anxious to prevent a mass displacement of Gazans onto its territory, fearing that such a development could become permanent.” Not exactly rallying round to support their fellow Arabs!" Ahh the foul stench of capitalism. | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims." Egypt hate Iran and their funded terror groups more than they hate Israel at the moment. I think that's the biggest reason for not opening the borders. They don't want the problem of Hamas within its borders. Mrs x | |||
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"They won’t be the only company profiteering from people’s misery in the region. " You don't have to look as far as Egypt. BAE systems are making record profits. | |||
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"It’s bizarre that people think Egypt should be helping just because Palestinians are also Arabs, they’re generally the same people who would party all night if anything bad happened to France." Shall I assume that is aimed at me? | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims." Calling people anti semite and pro Hamas for speaking out against apartheid Israeli state ongoing holocaust against Palestinians is like calling someone anti semite and pro Hamas if they speak out against Jeffrey Epstein crimes. | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims. Calling people anti semite and pro Hamas for speaking out against apartheid Israeli state ongoing holocaust against Palestinians is like calling someone anti semite and pro Hamas if they speak out against Jeffrey Epstein crimes. " When you can show me where I said “anti-semite” we can have a conversation. | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims." What I find interesting is that your equating this to anti Zionists. Can you explain why you think that people who are against a racist apartheid country would be keeping quiet on this? Or why they are automatically hamas supporters? Your logic is partisan | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims. What I find interesting is that your equating this to anti Zionists. Can you explain why you think that people who are against a racist apartheid country would be keeping quiet on this? Or why they are automatically hamas supporters? Your logic is partisan" You need to read all my posts on the Israel/Gaza conflict to see I am anything but partisan. Feel free to click the green arrow. | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims. What I find interesting is that your equating this to anti Zionists. Can you explain why you think that people who are against a racist apartheid country would be keeping quiet on this? Or why they are automatically hamas supporters? Your logic is partisan" So why did over 150000 Palestinians choose to live in Israel then? If Israel is an apartheid regime why did they allow this? Apartheid regimes do not normally allow citizens they are trying to segregate from becoming members of their government. How do you explain that? Mrs x | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims. What I find interesting is that your equating this to anti Zionists. Can you explain why you think that people who are against a racist apartheid country would be keeping quiet on this? Or why they are automatically hamas supporters? Your logic is partisan So why did over 150000 Palestinians choose to live in Israel then? If Israel is an apartheid regime why did they allow this? Apartheid regimes do not normally allow citizens they are trying to segregate from becoming members of their government. How do you explain that? Mrs x" What Arabs are they though? Bedowin, palisitinian, druz, Christian? If you were an Arab in the region where would you live? A. Isreal: A second class citizen. Tending to live in a less well off area, segregated schools and lesser education.. B. Gaza: Being deliberately starved to death shot bombed snipered , die under the rubble of an hospital while the international community does nothing. C. Live in the west Bank where ILLEGAL israili settlers can shoot you. Nick your home and land off you , vandalise your property and Bulldose your home with isreali backing? While the international community does nothing to stop this No doubt you'll reply with some crap to deflect the genocide taking place in Gaza.. | |||
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"What I find interesting is none of the regular posting anti-Israel (potentially pro-Hamas) posters have made a comment. I think the key point on this news story is how the immediate Arab neighbour is not being helpful towards the Palestinians (although one dodgy organisation is profiting. It isn’t the point that people/companies profit from war (of course that happens all the time), it is that this is specifically people who one might expect to be doing all they can to help their fellow Arabs and Muslims. What I find interesting is that your equating this to anti Zionists. Can you explain why you think that people who are against a racist apartheid country would be keeping quiet on this? Or why they are automatically hamas supporters? Your logic is partisan So why did over 150000 Palestinians choose to live in Israel then? If Israel is an apartheid regime why did they allow this? Apartheid regimes do not normally allow citizens they are trying to segregate from becoming members of their government. How do you explain that? Mrs x What Arabs are they though? Bedowin, palisitinian, druz, Christian? If you were an Arab in the region where would you live? A. Isreal: A second class citizen. Tending to live in a less well off area, segregated schools and lesser education.. B. Gaza: Being deliberately starved to death shot bombed snipered , die under the rubble of an hospital while the international community does nothing. C. Live in the west Bank where ILLEGAL israili settlers can shoot you. Nick your home and land off you , vandalise your property and Bulldose your home with isreali backing? While the international community does nothing to stop this No doubt you'll reply with some crap to deflect the genocide taking place in Gaza.. " No just facts. First fact is I did not say Arab. I said Palistinian because that's who I meant. Currently over 2 million live in Israel, not Gaza or the West Bank, I mean Israel. They are not second class citizens in Israel. There are currently 10 politicians in the Israeli government who are Palistinian. So why would a separatist regime allow people they want to be separated from into their governing body, making laws and policies that affect them? Common sense says they wouldn't. No Jews in Hamas, no ordinary Palistinian opposition in Gaza. Seems like Hamas doesn't want to share power with anyone else, including ordinary Palistinians. However Israel has been doing this for years. I don't agree with what's happening in the West Bank. This needs to be sorted as quickly as it can but whilst the Arab League refuse to negotiate with Israel it seems this will be a long way off. Did you notice not one mention of the conflict in Gaza. There's loads of evidence out there to disprove most of your wild accusations. Mrs x | |||
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"“A private Egyptian company, alleged to have strong links in the past to the state, has made a lucrative business out of ushering several hundred Gazans across the border each day. It is understood that Hala Consulting and Tourism, which holds an effective monopoly on commercial transit through the Rafah crossing, charges adults upwards of $5,000 (£4,000) to flee, with those under 16 paying $2,500. Analysis by The Sunday Times of the daily lists that detail the names and ages of Gazans registered with Hala to enter Egypt suggests that the company may have made at least $88 million (£70 million) since the beginning of March from evacuating more than 20,000 people. At the start of April, the number of names on these lists each day increased from around 295 to 475, potentially boosting the average daily revenue from a minimum of $1.25 million to $2 million a day. Some Gazans who had used these “co-ordination services” to evacuate said that they had paid more than $5,000 to register. Some paid double.” Also… “The Egyptian government is anxious to prevent a mass displacement of Gazans onto its territory, fearing that such a development could become permanent.” Not exactly rallying round to support their fellow Arabs!" not shocked at all lol | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact." Why is it a fact? The world hasn't stopped Israel any other time they moved the border into Palestinian land, bombed, shot and mass killed civilians. What's different now? | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. Why is it a fact? The world hasn't stopped Israel any other time they moved the border into Palestinian land, bombed, shot and mass killed civilians. What's different now?" maybe the world just wants rid of hamas | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. Why is it a fact? The world hasn't stopped Israel any other time they moved the border into Palestinian land, bombed, shot and mass killed civilians. What's different now?maybe the world just wants rid of hamas " Maybe. That's not what the other person was saying though. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. Why is it a fact? The world hasn't stopped Israel any other time they moved the border into Palestinian land, bombed, shot and mass killed civilians. What's different now?maybe the world just wants rid of hamas Maybe. That's not what the other person was saying though. " I believe if the hostages were returned then a ceasefire would be called. But think there's a couple of problems with that. Firstly Hamas doesn't want to return the hostages first, without gaining something first before doing so. Think they are hoping that international damnation of Israels acts will force Israel but that's not been a great tactic before. Especially if you are kid nap ping, murdering, burning babies etc. Secondly are the hostages still alive. If everyone in Gaza is being starved and killed of thirst, does anyone think this won't affect the hostages first. For these reasons I think this solution will be hard to achieve. Just as a little side issue. If Israel wanted to commit genocide on Palestinians then why is the country made up of 20% Palestinian citizens. Not just Palestinians who live there but are actually citizens of the country. Why has there been a 60 fold increase in the numbers of these Palestinians joining the IDF since 2013. Why allow Palestinians to become politicians in your country if you want to wipe them from the face of the earth? These issues don't seem to be the actions of a state intent on the destruction of these people. So maybe Israel isn't against Palestinians, maybe their just against the terrorists who are calling the shots, quite literally, in Gaza. Mrs x Ju | |||
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"There's certainly a lot of entities profitting from the fighting. Except the women and kids. It's always telling how video clips of Gazan's celebrating the Hamas attacks are almost entirely male." Misogyny is a big part of their cultural norm. The women are probably forced to stay indoors during celebrations, cooking. cleaning and bearing more children. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact." In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. " So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x" An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick  | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick "HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth. Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries. You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state. Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire. That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too. Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke. Mrs x | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick "Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held.... Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. Why is it a fact? The world hasn't stopped Israel any other time they moved the border into Palestinian land, bombed, shot and mass killed civilians. What's different now?maybe the world just wants rid of hamas Maybe. That's not what the other person was saying though. " I could say your stalking me across all the threads but that’s just childish isn’t it lol but why should it be a matter for the world to stop it’s a Middle East problem that’s gone on for centuries the most fucked up part of the world they live for conflict if not they would of sorted this out decades ago | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x"Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second. Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever? IDF terrorists. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
"so idf take one person as human shield compared to the thousands of human shields used by hamas hmmmmm | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick
Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held....
Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense. "Yeah right. Next you be will be accusing “save the children” for antisemitism. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x"Ok Karen. I think you are a joke and stop spreading lies and denying facts  | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick
Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held....
Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense.
Yeah right. Next you be will be accusing “save the children” for antisemitism."can you provide a sensible subject title to Google. The one I found (while including some poor practices and reports of abuse) didn't back up the numbers you quoted. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
so idf take one person as human shield compared to the thousands of human shields used by hamas hmmmmm"That’s why I say IDF are terrorists just like ISIS and any other terrorist organisation. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Ok Karen. I think you are a joke and stop spreading lies and denying facts "What lies and I'm not denying any facts, you just don't give any, Mrs x | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
so idf take one person as human shield compared to the thousands of human shields used by hamas hmmmmm
That’s why I say IDF are terrorists just like ISIS and any other terrorist organisation. "What leaked footage? Leaked by who? When? All the relevant stuff you refuse to provide. Or is it because there is no proof, Mrs x | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick
Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held....
Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense.
Yeah right. Next you be will be accusing “save the children” for antisemitism. can you provide a sensible subject title to Google. The one I found (while including some poor practices and reports of abuse) didn't back up the numbers you quoted. "Google Save the children website and articles in Time magazine. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
so idf take one person as human shield compared to the thousands of human shields used by hamas hmmmmm
That’s why I say IDF are terrorists just like ISIS and any other terrorist organisation. "but there just not are they and how about hamas are they terrorists how do you feel about them useing there own ppl as human shields in the thousands? | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
so idf take one person as human shield compared to the thousands of human shields used by hamas hmmmmm
That’s why I say IDF are terrorists just like ISIS and any other terrorist organisation. What leaked footage? Leaked by who? When? All the relevant stuff you refuse to provide. Or is it because there is no proof,
Mrs x"You are lazy. Stop reading daily fail. Go and do some homework before you post here on this subject KAREN | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
so idf take one person as human shield compared to the thousands of human shields used by hamas hmmmmm
That’s why I say IDF are terrorists just like ISIS and any other terrorist organisation. but there just not are they and how about hamas are they terrorists how do you feel about them useing there own ppl as human shields in the thousands?"Read my post again. How do you feel about IDF terrorists atrocities, countless human rights violations and ongoing holocaust against innocent civilians, women and children? | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick
Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held....
Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense.
Yeah right. Next you be will be accusing “save the children” for antisemitism."Post the Save The Children link. My info from STC shows different figures. I have never accused anyone of anti-semitism, probably worth checking who you're chatting to before making accusations  | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick
Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held....
Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense.
Yeah right. Next you be will be accusing “save the children” for antisemitism. can you provide a sensible subject title to Google. The one I found (while including some poor practices and reports of abuse) didn't back up the numbers you quoted. "He's quoting from Defenceless. A report from Save the Chuldren. Like he usually does he quotes the bits that supports his narrative and adds bits too. In this case he says 10,000 Palestinian children have been incarcerated by the Istaelis. This is correct and it's in the report. But then he says 'innocent children' and that's not in the report. In fact Save the Children go on to explain that the children have been convicted of a crime. They even expanded this further saying most are convicted for stone throwing. Then he ignores facts which makes the number of 10,000 incarcerated children seem a little less impartial. This is because the 10,000 children in incarceration is not the figure currently incarcerated. It's not the figure incarcerated in a year or even a decade. The 10,000 children he talks of have been incarcerated over a period of 20 years. So in truth, the number of incarcerated youths is approximately 500 per annum. 500 sounds a lot less dramatic than 10,000. In the UK we currently have over 13,000 moths in the penal system and we don't have a similar child terrorist problem here. So in conclusion, he cannot read, or interpret, or form his own opinions. He ignores facts, manipulates facts and figures or just flat out denies anything that proves he may be wrong. So we should say well done for getting the figure from the article right even if he ignored the context and manipulated them to suit his aims. Maybe tomorrow we can start on work on your A,B,C's and counting to 10 Mrs x | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick HI Arthur missed you, again only half a story. These children have been convicted of crimes, you may not agree with it but that's the truth.
Most countries detain children who have committed crimes. We have a juvenile system, so does the states, Europe and most developed countries.
You know what you are doing when you add the word "innocent' into your post you are trying to make Israel look like a terrible state.
Terrorists don't think like this at all. They would take them to the top of a high building and throw them to their deaths, they may just stone them, like the do to young girls who don't dress as the terrorist want them to, they could be beheaded or if they are very small, you know babies, they could just douse them in lighter fuel and set them on fire.
That's how terrorists think.... sick. And if you think that's okay you're sick too.
Now jog on, find another half story you can modify fir your antisemitic agenda and stop using what I write. You are a joke.
Mrs x
Leaked footage shows IDF taking an elderly Gazan as a human shield & forcing him to inspect buildings with two explosive drones on top of his head ready to kill him at any second.
Guess who's NEVER accused of taking Gazans as human shields in ever?
IDF terrorists.
so idf take one person as human shield compared to the thousands of human shields used by hamas hmmmmm
That’s why I say IDF are terrorists just like ISIS and any other terrorist organisation. What leaked footage? Leaked by who? When? All the relevant stuff you refuse to provide. Or is it because there is no proof,
Mrs x
You are lazy. Stop reading daily fail. Go and do some homework before you post here on this subject KAREN "NO PROOF AGAIN, lol. You quote mistruths and I, and others, can go to your own sources to show how you lie. You make it easy for everyone to call you out on your bullshit. Mrs x | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick
Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held....
Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense.
Yeah right. Next you be will be accusing “save the children” for antisemitism. can you provide a sensible subject title to Google. The one I found (while including some poor practices and reports of abuse) didn't back up the numbers you quoted. He's quoting from Defenceless. A report from Save the Chuldren. Like he usually does he quotes the bits that supports his narrative and adds bits too.
In this case he says 10,000 Palestinian children have been incarcerated by the Istaelis. This is correct and it's in the report. But then he says 'innocent children' and that's not in the report. In fact Save the Children go on to explain that the children have been convicted of a crime. They even expanded this further saying most are convicted for stone throwing.
Then he ignores facts which makes the number of 10,000 incarcerated children seem a little less impartial. This is because the 10,000 children in incarceration is not the figure currently incarcerated. It's not the figure incarcerated in a year or even a decade. The 10,000 children he talks of have been incarcerated over a period of 20 years. So in truth, the number of incarcerated youths is approximately 500 per annum.
500 sounds a lot less dramatic than 10,000. In the UK we currently have over 13,000 moths in the penal system and we don't have a similar child terrorist problem here.
So in conclusion, he cannot read, or interpret, or form his own opinions. He ignores facts, manipulates facts and figures or just flat out denies anything that proves he may be wrong.
So we should say well done for getting the figure from the article right even if he ignored the context and manipulated them to suit his aims.
Maybe tomorrow we can start on work on your A,B,C's and counting to 10
Mrs x"You are delusional Karen. What makes you think I’m quoting for this website but well done for some home work. Still lots of room for improvement. | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. In your opinion which is not a fact! The only thing stopping Isreal from wiping out Gaza is because hostages are in there. That's my opinion. So you are now implying it's OK for Hamas to have taken hostages to prevent further attacks by Israel? That's a twisted, evil, opinion and you should apologise to all hostages taken all over the world for this barbaric view. It's OK to take, innocent victims and hide behind them. This from an ex member of HM Forces, you should be ashamed. This is how terrorists think... sick. Mrs x An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in Israel military detention over the past 20 years. Save the Children They are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” Is it ok to take innocent children as young as 8-10 year old to military prisons and keep them behind bars without charge. This is how terrorists think… sick
Inflate the number held and deflate the ages of those held....
Kinda makes your argument look like nonsense.
Yeah right. Next you be will be accusing “save the children” for antisemitism. can you provide a sensible subject title to Google. The one I found (while including some poor practices and reports of abuse) didn't back up the numbers you quoted. He's quoting from Defenceless. A report from Save the Chuldren. Like he usually does he quotes the bits that supports his narrative and adds bits too.
In this case he says 10,000 Palestinian children have been incarcerated by the Istaelis. This is correct and it's in the report. But then he says 'innocent children' and that's not in the report. In fact Save the Children go on to explain that the children have been convicted of a crime. They even expanded this further saying most are convicted for stone throwing.
Then he ignores facts which makes the number of 10,000 incarcerated children seem a little less impartial. This is because the 10,000 children in incarceration is not the figure currently incarcerated. It's not the figure incarcerated in a year or even a decade. The 10,000 children he talks of have been incarcerated over a period of 20 years. So in truth, the number of incarcerated youths is approximately 500 per annum.
500 sounds a lot less dramatic than 10,000. In the UK we currently have over 13,000 moths in the penal system and we don't have a similar child terrorist problem here.
So in conclusion, he cannot read, or interpret, or form his own opinions. He ignores facts, manipulates facts and figures or just flat out denies anything that proves he may be wrong.
So we should say well done for getting the figure from the article right even if he ignored the context and manipulated them to suit his aims.
Maybe tomorrow we can start on work on your A,B,C's and counting to 10
Mrs x
You are delusional Karen. What makes you think I’m quoting for this website but well done for some home work. Still lots of room for improvement. "'... quoting for this website' ? I think you mean 'quoting from a website". Because you put Save the Children before saying what you said. You did this for only one of two reasons I could think of. Firstly, you were quoting from a source written by Save the Children. If this was the case the article is called Defenceless, was easy to find and it was clear you butchered its main points to suit your argument. Secondly, and this is a little bit disturbing, is that you threw in Save the Children to give some faux authority to the lies you were about to post. So which one is it? Mrs x | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 12:15:37]" LOL you're getting your facts from twitter lol. The video shows a guy walking about, on his own quite calmly and one drone flying about. You are comedy gold. Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick "Why would I say it's fake. That's absolutely terrible and my heart goes put to that poor child and their family. You have me totally wrong, I'm against all innocent lives lost and suffering, no matter who they are. Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick "This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done  | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done "Any joy on that STC link yet? Why can't you just focus on one thing that's asked instead of diverting and jumping all over the place? | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done
Any joy on that STC link yet?
Why can't you just focus on one thing that's asked instead of diverting and jumping all over the place?"Google impact on incarceration on Palistinian children by Israel. The article is called defenceless. Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done "I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers. We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so. So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants? Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done
Any joy on that STC link yet?
Why can't you just focus on one thing that's asked instead of diverting and jumping all over the place?Google impact on incarceration on Palistinian children by Israel.
The article is called defenceless.
Mrs x"I want him to provide me the exact link he got his information from | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done
Any joy on that STC link yet?
Why can't you just focus on one thing that's asked instead of diverting and jumping all over the place?Google impact on incarceration on Palistinian children by Israel.
The article is called defenceless.
Mrs x
I want him to provide me the exact link he got his information from "Twitter I suspect but it's definitely from that article. Cut n pasted the sentences he used. Take a look at the first video link he suggests looking at. Apart from 3 or 4 stills of a similarly dressed guy with about three troppers, the rest of the video shows one guy, strolling around a bombed out site, with a drone accompanying him. It's ridiculous, I think he just reads headlines I think and I think it's mostly from Twitter. Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x"Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism  unlike you defending IDF terrorists. | |||
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"I don't quite get this thread. Why does the Ham-ass supporter think it can lie and not provide any proof for its ridiculous claims? What's wrong with it?
I think I can guess "I was wrong. Award for the fab’s best keyboard warrior goes to this genius | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. "I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists. You could say anything, doesn't make it truth. So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK? I suspect you won't answer. Mrs x | |||
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"I don't quite get this thread. Why does the Ham-ass supporter think it can lie and not provide any proof for its ridiculous claims? What's wrong with it?
I think I can guess
I was wrong. Award for the fab’s best keyboard warrior goes to this genius "Thought I was the best keyboard warrior? You see why people cannot believe anything you say. You flip flip more than a floppy floppy thing in a hurricane. Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x"Why don’t you apologise first for accusing me of supporting terrorism and khamas and I’ll answer your question | |||
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"I don't quite get this thread. Why does the Ham-ass supporter think it can lie and not provide any proof for its ridiculous claims? What's wrong with it?
I think I can guess
I was wrong. Award for the fab’s best keyboard warrior goes to this genius Thought I was the best keyboard warrior?
You see why people cannot believe anything you say.
You flip flip more than a floppy floppy thing in a hurricane.
Mrs x"lol | |||
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"If the Palies returned those taken as prisoners the rest of the world would force Israel to stop the war. That is a fact. Why is it a fact? The world hasn't stopped Israel any other time they moved the border into Palestinian land, bombed, shot and mass killed civilians. What's different now?maybe the world just wants rid of hamas " And netanyahu's far right government | |||
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"I don't quite get this thread. Why does the Ham-ass supporter think it can lie and not provide any proof for its ridiculous claims? What's wrong with it?
I think I can guess
I was wrong. Award for the fab’s best keyboard warrior goes to this genius "How interesting that you responded directly to this post. I didn't mention your name or even specified a gender. Thanks for that. Reported. | |||
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"I don't quite get this thread. Why does the Ham-ass supporter think it can lie and not provide any proof for its ridiculous claims? What's wrong with it?
I think I can guess
I was wrong. Award for the fab’s best keyboard warrior goes to this genius
How interesting that you responded directly to this post. I didn't mention your name or even specified a gender. Thanks for that. Reported."Eh! Name and gender! What you on about? | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x"There are no burnt babies! The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap. Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as bad | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as bad"You really are a piece of work. France24...and international news network reported on this saying that the images were correct. Arlington Post... international renowned newspaper said the same thing Adversa AI... a world leading company on AI imaging also said the burnt babies pics were real and have all the science and equipment they used to establish this. Other sources have done the same, Intelligent Engineering is one I've just seen. I previously gave you addresses for websites, you can green tab it to see I'm telling the truth. Yet you still refused to accept this. Why? Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badYou really are a piece of work.
France24...and international news network reported on this saying that the images were correct.
Arlington Post... international renowned newspaper said the same thing
Adversa AI... a world leading company on AI imaging also said the burnt babies pics were real and have all the science and equipment they used to establish this.
Other sources have done the same, Intelligent Engineering is one I've just seen.
I previously gave you addresses for websites, you can green tab it to see I'm telling the truth.
Yet you still refused to accept this. Why?
Mrs x"This is the second time I've given you this, read it and tell me there was no burnt babies by Hamas. https://adversa.ai/blog/aljazeera-fake-news-investigation-burned-babies-and-an-ai-generated-dog-images/ The images are horrific but you are the one denying it. I know you probably won't read it but the other forum it's will be able to and then see by your denial what type of guy you really are. Mrs x | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as bad"one is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol "neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on"Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc. | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on
Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc."Placed in front of bombs, but you could run the risk of beheading and being burnt alive Mrs c | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on
Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc.Placed in front of bombs, but you could run the risk of beheading and being burnt alive
Mrs c"Much much much less likely, so I'd take my chances. | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on
Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc." | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on
Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc.
" | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on
Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc."ha atleast there you would have choices if you where Jewish Muslim Christian or whatever you could live work socialising a lot more than anywhere else in that region is there any Jewish judges or openly gay ppl in that region I think not for all Israel’s faults and there are lots it’s still a lot better than most in the Middle East and you know it | |||
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Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on
Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc. ha atleast there you would have choices if you where Jewish Muslim Christian or whatever you could live work socialising a lot more than anywhere else in that region is there any Jewish judges or openly gay ppl in that region I think not for all Israel’s faults and there are lots it’s still a lot better than most in the Middle East and you know it "I don't "know it". | |||
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"Here is another one before you say it’s a fake baby or doll.
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1786306011105558884?s=48
Your replies makes me sick
This child was killed yesterday by Israeli bombs while you were busy defending IDF terrorists. Award for the best keyboard warrior goes to you Karen. Well done I'm not being callous but I've never killed anyone. Infact I've said repeatedly ALL innocent lives lost is a tragedy. I have said the IDF are not terrorists that true, on both regards, my saying it and their own reality, they are soldiers.
We're you are disingenuous is when I express my sincere sadness towards any life cut short, you cannot seem to do so.
So what about the burned babied, killed when you were defending Hamas and terrorism. Do you have any sympathy for those poor infants?
Mrs x
Quote me where on this thread or any other I was defending khamas or terrorism unlike you defending IDF terrorists. I do not defend terrorists, IDF are soldiers not terrorists.
You could say anything, doesn't make it truth.
So what about those burnt babies, any sympathy? Did Hamas cross a line or was that OK?
I suspect you won't answer.
Mrs x
There are no burnt babies!
The Israeli government bullcrap machine churns them out and mugs like you fall for all that crap.
Yes hamas committed atrocities.. but Isreal is just as badone is a country the other a terrorists organisation which one would you rather be from lol neither of them it seems to me there all fucking nuts whatever side of the peace wall they live on
Definitely, but I'd rather live in Israel if these were my only choices. Much less likely to be forced from my home, bombed, shot, starved, have my water cut off etc. ha atleast there you would have choices if you where Jewish Muslim Christian or whatever you could live work socialising a lot more than anywhere else in that region is there any Jewish judges or openly gay ppl in that region I think not for all Israel’s faults and there are lots it’s still a lot better than most in the Middle East and you know it
I don't "know it". "so where else would you prefer to live in Middle East there must be somewhere where you would have the freedom to work socialise practice ypur religion be free to be gay bi straight whatever you choose so where then ? | |||
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"Wow! IDF terrorist war crimes documented by BBC journalists. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd" aw well that won’t be biased then lol | |||
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"Wow! IDF terrorist war crimes documented by BBC journalists. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw well that won’t be biased then lol" What’s next. BBC is antisemitic | |||
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"Wow! IDF terrorist war crimes documented by BBC journalists. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw well that won’t be biased then lol What’s next. BBC is antisemitic "you be saying the Labour Party arnt antisemetic next | |||
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"Wow! IDF terrorist war crimes documented by BBC journalists. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw well that won’t be biased then lol What’s next. BBC is antisemitic "Expressing opposition to the mass slaughter of women, children and civilians, regardless of their ethnicity/religion, gets you labelled anti-Semitic round here. | |||
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"Wow! IDF terrorist war crimes documented by BBC journalists. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw well that won’t be biased then lol What’s next. BBC is antisemitic
Expressing opposition to the mass slaughter of women, children and civilians, regardless of their ethnicity/religion, gets you labelled anti-Semitic round here. "Exactly | |||
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"Wow! IDF terrorist war crimes documented by BBC journalists. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw well that won’t be biased then lol What’s next. BBC is antisemitic
Expressing opposition to the mass slaughter of women, children and civilians, regardless of their ethnicity/religion, gets you labelled anti-Semitic round here. "These days. | |||
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"Wow! IDF terrorist war crimes documented by BBC journalists. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw well that won’t be biased then lol What’s next. BBC is antisemitic
Expressing opposition to the mass slaughter of women, children and civilians, regardless of their ethnicity/religion, gets you labelled anti-Semitic round here.
These days."expressing the mass slaughter of young Jews at a rave and r_ping them gets you labelled anti Islam round here | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK." IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x" IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw " 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x" I'm gonna guess it's this BBC News - West Bank: Israel Defense Forces accused of possible war crime - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw07wgrwzywo (Just sharing what I've read) | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x" https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. " Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x" Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". " Wikipedia is antisemitic! | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". " | |||
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"It’s bizarre that people think Egypt should be helping just because Palestinians are also Arabs, they’re generally the same people who would party all night if anything bad happened to France. Shall I assume that is aimed at me?" Just realised you never came back on this. While no doubt there are some idiots in this country who might celebrate horrors happening in France, I am confident it would be a tiny minority of people. However, historically I would say there is evidence to show the UK would come to the aid of our neighbours… Nearly 100,000 refugees from Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway came to the UK, fleeing from the advancing Nazi German army in the early stages of WW2. Prior to that the UK accepted over 70,000 Jews fleeing from Germany (interesting fact: The Daily Mail spoke out against accepting these Jews at the time). | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". " I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs x" just for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. | |||
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"Dont think anyone will be crossing now, the idf are about to flatten the last bit of gaza now" | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. " Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs x" without doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) " Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscx | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscx" can you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. " They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrs | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrs" who has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. " They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs x" they did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims." The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs x" no rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! " Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs x" im confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"." | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."" That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs x | |||
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"Palestinian children killed by IDF terrorists today while keyboard warriors defending these bastards. https://x.com/wizardbisan1/status/1787847436938920134?s=48" Don't you hate keyboard warriors, defending their narrative, safe in the knowledge they hide their identity. That's terrible. Also just saying random comments about people defending the killing of innocents. I would never do such a thing and anyone who does is cowardly and probably lacking in morals and certainly has an issue with the truth. I'm glad you are not one of these. You must believe in what you say, given you keep repeating half truths consistently. Your use of Twitter/X as a reputable news source is laudable given the facts that it's probably the least reliable source of news out there, only surpassed by a game of Chinese Whispers in a group of listers and deaf people. But crack on IDF are all terrorists and even though they forwarded of an attack, gave time for civilians to move from the particular area, even leaflets by air drop woth all this info, unfortunately and a great tragedy, innocents were killed. This is due to Hamas making their population stand in the way of bullets and bombs. They could have evacuated them but chose not to. They want this human catastrophe, it 'works' for them on a PR level which is so sad. Not only do they not value Israeli lives but it's blatantly obvious they don't give a fuck about Palestinian lives either. Hamas, the international terrorist organisation. Theordinary people of Gaza should not be the pawns in your ideological and religious fanaticism. Hamas terrorists, IDF soldiers. Sure some faceless user will attack this from the safety of their keyboard. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs x" oh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. " You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x | |||
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"Palestinian children killed by IDF terrorists today while keyboard warriors defending these bastards. https://x.com/wizardbisan1/status/1787847436938920134?s=48 Don't you hate keyboard warriors, defending their narrative, safe in the knowledge they hide their identity. That's terrible. Also just saying random comments about people defending the killing of innocents. I would never do such a thing and anyone who does is cowardly and probably lacking in morals and certainly has an issue with the truth. I'm glad you are not one of these. You must believe in what you say, given you keep repeating half truths consistently. Your use of Twitter/X as a reputable news source is laudable given the facts that it's probably the least reliable source of news out there, only surpassed by a game of Chinese Whispers in a group of listers and deaf people. But crack on IDF are all terrorists and even though they forwarded of an attack, gave time for civilians to move from the particular area, even leaflets by air drop woth all this info, unfortunately and a great tragedy, innocents were killed. This is due to Hamas making their population stand in the way of bullets and bombs. They could have evacuated them but chose not to. They want this human catastrophe, it 'works' for them on a PR level which is so sad. Not only do they not value Israeli lives but it's blatantly obvious they don't give a fuck about Palestinian lives either. Hamas, the international terrorist organisation. Theordinary people of Gaza should not be the pawns in your ideological and religious fanaticism. Hamas terrorists, IDF soldiers. Sure some faceless user will attack this from the safety of their keyboard. Mrs x" Oh dear oh dear. My post wasn’t aimed at you KAREN but Thank you for proving me right again
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x" She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets | |||
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"Palestinian children killed by IDF terrorists today while keyboard warriors defending these bastards. https://x.com/wizardbisan1/status/1787847436938920134?s=48 Don't you hate keyboard warriors, defending their narrative, safe in the knowledge they hide their identity. That's terrible. Also just saying random comments about people defending the killing of innocents. I would never do such a thing and anyone who does is cowardly and probably lacking in morals and certainly has an issue with the truth. I'm glad you are not one of these. You must believe in what you say, given you keep repeating half truths consistently. Your use of Twitter/X as a reputable news source is laudable given the facts that it's probably the least reliable source of news out there, only surpassed by a game of Chinese Whispers in a group of listers and deaf people. But crack on IDF are all terrorists and even though they forwarded of an attack, gave time for civilians to move from the particular area, even leaflets by air drop woth all this info, unfortunately and a great tragedy, innocents were killed. This is due to Hamas making their population stand in the way of bullets and bombs. They could have evacuated them but chose not to. They want this human catastrophe, it 'works' for them on a PR level which is so sad. Not only do they not value Israeli lives but it's blatantly obvious they don't give a fuck about Palestinian lives either. Hamas, the international terrorist organisation. Theordinary people of Gaza should not be the pawns in your ideological and religious fanaticism. Hamas terrorists, IDF soldiers. Sure some faceless user will attack this from the safety of their keyboard. Mrs x Oh dear oh dear. My post wasn’t aimed at you KAREN but Thank you for proving me right again
Why are you so triggered about me posting dead innocent Palestinians babies by IDF terrorists! These are real time war crimes from occupied Palestinian territory, Not some made up shit of 40 beheaded babies by Satanyahu terrorist regime. "I was agreeing with you Arthur. Would you like me to post voice notes so you can fully understand what I'm saying? Anyway Hamas are terrorists of the highest order, could have evacuated all innocents but chose not to. Hamasmust love to see ordinary Palestinians suffer. They don't care about their civilians, want them dead so they can blame the IDF for carrying out their orders. Hamas guilty of killing Israelis and the ordinary Palestinians. Heart goes out to all innocent lives lost. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets "A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not. Mrs X | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x" sorry if I'm being dense. I will double check but I can only spot the NY Sun. Which (possibly my ignorance) isnt a news source I know, let alone have a view if it's non partisan. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs xsorry if I'm being dense. I will double check but I can only spot the NY Sun. Which (possibly my ignorance) isnt a news source I know, let alone have a view if it's non partisan. " Google it, you'll find the owners, history, print history etc. I also gave full sources, including Web addresses and if its not on here it's on another thread I posted on recently. It was posted in response to a post from Dan DeLyon if that makes it easier. Mrs x | |||
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"“A private Egyptian company, alleged to have strong links in the past to the state, has made a lucrative business out of ushering several hundred Gazans across the border each day. It is understood that Hala Consulting and Tourism, which holds an effective monopoly on commercial transit through the Rafah crossing, charges adults upwards of $5,000 (£4,000) to flee, with those under 16 paying $2,500. Analysis by The Sunday Times of the daily lists that detail the names and ages of Gazans registered with Hala to enter Egypt suggests that the company may have made at least $88 million (£70 million) since the beginning of March from evacuating more than 20,000 people. At the start of April, the number of names on these lists each day increased from around 295 to 475, potentially boosting the average daily revenue from a minimum of $1.25 million to $2 million a day. Some Gazans who had used these “co-ordination services” to evacuate said that they had paid more than $5,000 to register. Some paid double.” Also… “The Egyptian government is anxious to prevent a mass displacement of Gazans onto its territory, fearing that such a development could become permanent.” Not exactly rallying round to support their fellow Arabs!" Coming back to original post. IDF terrorists are in control of Rafah crossing now. So no more lucrative business for dodgy Egyptians. OP must be very happy today | |||
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"“A private Egyptian company, alleged to have strong links in the past to the state, has made a lucrative business out of ushering several hundred Gazans across the border each day. It is understood that Hala Consulting and Tourism, which holds an effective monopoly on commercial transit through the Rafah crossing, charges adults upwards of $5,000 (£4,000) to flee, with those under 16 paying $2,500. Analysis by The Sunday Times of the daily lists that detail the names and ages of Gazans registered with Hala to enter Egypt suggests that the company may have made at least $88 million (£70 million) since the beginning of March from evacuating more than 20,000 people. At the start of April, the number of names on these lists each day increased from around 295 to 475, potentially boosting the average daily revenue from a minimum of $1.25 million to $2 million a day. Some Gazans who had used these “co-ordination services” to evacuate said that they had paid more than $5,000 to register. Some paid double.” Also… “The Egyptian government is anxious to prevent a mass displacement of Gazans onto its territory, fearing that such a development could become permanent.” Not exactly rallying round to support their fellow Arabs! Coming back to original post. IDF terrorists are in control of Rafah crossing now. So no more lucrative business for dodgy Egyptians. OP must be very happy today "Why would I be happy? You are always projecting and making assumptions about people. You’ve done it to me before. I have consistently been critical of both sides in this conflict. The OP highlighted that it seems not everyone in the Arab world is looking to help or support the Palestinians and in fact some are exploiting the situation for personal gain. Any comment on that point? | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x"CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals. https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48 | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48"So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists. Mrs x | |||
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" Why would I be happy? You are always projecting and making assumptions about people. You’ve done it to me before. I have consistently been critical of both sides in this conflict. The OP highlighted that it seems not everyone in the Arab world is looking to help or support the Palestinians and in fact some are exploiting the situation for personal gain. Any comment on that point?" | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs x"no there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference "That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists". | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists"."So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict. Lots more terrorists around than I first thought. So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents. I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs x"IDF terrorists literally bombing tents full of Palestinian refugees children and women. Saying IDF aren’t terrorists is like saying Jimmy Saville wasn’t a peadophile. https://x.com/malcolm_ishmeal/status/1788160366285136377?s=48 | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference "IDF Nazi War criminals | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x"What is your take on Hitler and His Nazi Army? According to your logic they were soldiers right?? Not terrorists or war criminals?? British citizen who are going annd joined Israel to fight in the IDF on occupied territories. Anybody who has broken the fourth protocol of the Geneva Convention deserves to face justice in court for their crimes. It is also a crime under British law for a British nationals to serve in a foreign army under the 'Foreign Enlistment Act 1870' making it a criminal offence. These individuals need to be arrested and face prosecution in British courts on their return to the UK. | |||
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"Hey Sexguru are you going to answer my questions? For ease here is my post again… Why would I be happy? You are always projecting and making assumptions about people. You’ve done it to me before. I have consistently been critical of both sides in this conflict. The OP highlighted that it seems not everyone in the Arab world is looking to help or support the Palestinians and in fact some are exploiting the situation for personal gain. Any comment on that point?" I haven’t seen you starting a thread about IDF war crimes in occupied Palestinian territory? | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x"No, you misunderstand. I'm agreeing with you. Just because these people use terror tactics, and mass slaughter innocent civilians, we can't label them as "terrorists", and furthermore we need to use the non-labelling as terrorists as some kind of justification for playing down the atrocicties being committed. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x
No, you misunderstand. I'm agreeing with you. Just because these people use terror tactics, and mass slaughter innocent civilians, we can't label them as "terrorists", and furthermore we need to use the non-labelling as terrorists as some kind of justification for playing down the atrocicties being committed. "You are not agreeing with me if you think the IDF are 'mass slaughtering' or using 'terror tactics", that's Hamas territory. Mrs x | |||
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"Hey Sexguru are you going to answer my questions? For ease here is my post again… Why would I be happy? You are always projecting and making assumptions about people. You’ve done it to me before. I have consistently been critical of both sides in this conflict. The OP highlighted that it seems not everyone in the Arab world is looking to help or support the Palestinians and in fact some are exploiting the situation for personal gain. Any comment on that point? I haven’t seen you starting a thread about IDF war crimes in occupied Palestinian territory?" What war crimes? Nobody has even been accused by the ICC of any war crimes yet. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x
What is your take on Hitler and His Nazi Army?
According to your logic they were soldiers right?? Not terrorists or war criminals??
British citizen who are going annd joined Israel to fight in the IDF on occupied territories. Anybody who has broken the fourth protocol of the Geneva Convention deserves to face justice in court for their crimes.
It is also a crime under British law for a British nationals to serve in a foreign army under the 'Foreign Enlistment Act 1870' making it a criminal offence.
These individuals need to be arrested and face prosecution in British courts on their return to the UK."Hitler was a war criminal and certain members of the German army were too, those convicted at Nuremburg. The rest were just soldiers, conscripted into the service of their country. As for not being able to serve on a foreign army again it's half truths from you again. Anyone can join the French Foreign Legion at the end of their service they recieve French citizenship. As for anyone from UK joining another countries military it's allowed if you have dual citizenship, which I suspect is the case in the majority of individuals doing this. Not sure about your level of understanding or whether you are just being obtuse. You only give half truths at best, ignoring the part of the stories that don't support what you're saying. Other times you're comments just border on untruths. It's easy to lie, you don't need to prove what you say, is that why you persist in this? Mrs x | |||
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"Hey Sexguru are you going to answer my questions? For ease here is my post again… Why would I be happy? You are always projecting and making assumptions about people. You’ve done it to me before. I have consistently been critical of both sides in this conflict. The OP highlighted that it seems not everyone in the Arab world is looking to help or support the Palestinians and in fact some are exploiting the situation for personal gain. Any comment on that point? I haven’t seen you starting a thread about IDF war crimes in occupied Palestinian territory?What war crimes? Nobody has even been accused by the ICC of any war crimes yet. Mrs x" Read the letter from 12 Republican senators threatening ICC chief prosecutor with "severe" consequences for him, his family & staff if he goes ahead with an arrest warrant for Netanyahu. "You have been warned." https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1787503022299332951?s=48 | |||
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"Hey Sexguru are you going to answer my questions? For ease here is my post again… Why would I be happy? You are always projecting and making assumptions about people. You’ve done it to me before. I have consistently been critical of both sides in this conflict. The OP highlighted that it seems not everyone in the Arab world is looking to help or support the Palestinians and in fact some are exploiting the situation for personal gain. Any comment on that point? I haven’t seen you starting a thread about IDF war crimes in occupied Palestinian territory?What war crimes? Nobody has even been accused by the ICC of any war crimes yet. Mrs x Read the letter from 12 Republican senators threatening ICC chief prosecutor with "severe" consequences for him, his family & staff if he goes ahead with an arrest warrant for Netanyahu. "You have been warned." https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1787503022299332951?s=48" I have done, what's your point? It makes for a better discussion and gives the reader something to follow. Mrs x | |||
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"Hey Sexguru are you going to answer my questions? For ease here is my post again… Why would I be happy? You are always projecting and making assumptions about people. You’ve done it to me before. I have consistently been critical of both sides in this conflict. The OP highlighted that it seems not everyone in the Arab world is looking to help or support the Palestinians and in fact some are exploiting the situation for personal gain. Any comment on that point? I haven’t seen you starting a thread about IDF war crimes in occupied Palestinian territory?" And…? Weird point to make! What are you trying to imply? I note that when I posted an article (in an existing thread) a few weeks back reporting on 000s of Israeli Jews protesting against their Govt outside the Knesset, you made no comment. And…? So you can’t answer my questions! All rather disingenuous of you. You must live in a binary black and white tribalist world based on your posting history. Personally I see, and have called out, blame on both sides of this conflict. My sympathies lay with all the innocents affected on both sides. In particular the children who have no agency. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x
No, you misunderstand. I'm agreeing with you. Just because these people use terror tactics, and mass slaughter innocent civilians, we can't label them as "terrorists", and furthermore we need to use the non-labelling as terrorists as some kind of justification for playing down the atrocicties being committed. You are not agreeing with me if you think the IDF are 'mass slaughtering' or using 'terror tactics", that's Hamas territory.
Mrs x"Is it the "mass" or the "slaughter" that you don't like the use of? They are killing vast numbers of Palestinian people. So "mass slaughter" would be a fair way of describing it. Is there a preferred word to describe the tactics used by the IDF to kill vast numbers of Palestinian people other than "terror tactics "? Final question, why are the words used to describe the atrocicties being committed more important to you than the atrocicties themselves? I couldn't give a shit which words are used, I care about the innocent people being killed. | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x
No, you misunderstand. I'm agreeing with you. Just because these people use terror tactics, and mass slaughter innocent civilians, we can't label them as "terrorists", and furthermore we need to use the non-labelling as terrorists as some kind of justification for playing down the atrocicties being committed. You are not agreeing with me if you think the IDF are 'mass slaughtering' or using 'terror tactics", that's Hamas territory.
Mrs x
Is it the "mass" or the "slaughter" that you don't like the use of?
They are killing vast numbers of Palestinian people. So "mass slaughter" would be a fair way of describing it.
Is there a preferred word to describe the tactics used by the IDF to kill vast numbers of Palestinian people other than "terror tactics "?
Final question, why are the words used to describe the atrocicties being committed more important to you than the atrocicties themselves? I couldn't give a shit which words are used, I care about the innocent people being killed."So our soldiers committed mass slaughter and used terror tactics in every war we've fought in? I don't think so, I value our servicemen for being brave enough to do the hard yards that most won't to protect our country and way of life. If you think the killing of 1200 innocents and kid napping of over 250 citizens isn't a justified reason for going to war then what is? Surely Israel have a right to defend themselves? Or is that not enough of an attack to warrant this. If that's so what about the Falklands War? We sent the whole armada, plus thousands of troops 8000 Mike's away for far less than what happened on Oct 7th. I am not hung up on certain words but let's use the correctly. If Hamas wanted to protect the Palestinian children and woman they could send them away from the conflict. They are pre warned of attacks, the IDF airdrop leaflets advising Gazans to flee the location. But they don't Hamas don't want them to. Hamas are hiding behind these poor citizens, when they could evacuate them. And they could evacuate them. Gaza is made up of approximately 5% urban areas with 95% being empty spaces. Nobody said it would be ideal but they wouldn't be in the way of bombs and troops there. Hamas want Palestinian kids, the 'child martyrs' as they call them to die. It suits their PR. Callous bucks don't care about any innocents, Israeli or Palestinian. Unfortunately civilians die in war. But that's what it is, War. Oct 7th wasn't war, now that was a mass slaughter and terrorism. Mrs x | |||
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"Holocaust survivor compare genocide in Gaza by Israeli terrorists to Nazi holocaust against Jews in Second World War. Soldiers eh
https://youtu.be/AxLtxX7kPcU?si=3VvyEd_q9fj0fW3n"The Green Prince, the ex heir apparent to Hamas, the son of the founder of Hamas says after Oct 7th all Palestinians are now the same as Hamas. If one guy should know then it should be him. He grew up in the elite within Hamas, saw and heard things others have not. He was raised to be a leader for Hamas but turned his back on this evil, murderous regime. Does he have a point, after all it was the Palestinians who voted in Hamas. Watch the video. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4s_JsHoPxTM&ved=2ahUKEwjeqM2rm_6FAxXVQUEAHVUJBAgQjjh6BAgxEAE&usg=AOvVaw31oBVgCkyovOE-5TZpOZV0 | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x
No, you misunderstand. I'm agreeing with you. Just because these people use terror tactics, and mass slaughter innocent civilians, we can't label them as "terrorists", and furthermore we need to use the non-labelling as terrorists as some kind of justification for playing down the atrocicties being committed. You are not agreeing with me if you think the IDF are 'mass slaughtering' or using 'terror tactics", that's Hamas territory.
Mrs x
Is it the "mass" or the "slaughter" that you don't like the use of?
They are killing vast numbers of Palestinian people. So "mass slaughter" would be a fair way of describing it.
Is there a preferred word to describe the tactics used by the IDF to kill vast numbers of Palestinian people other than "terror tactics "?
Final question, why are the words used to describe the atrocicties being committed more important to you than the atrocicties themselves? I couldn't give a shit which words are used, I care about the innocent people being killed.So our soldiers committed mass slaughter and used terror tactics in every war we've fought in? I don't think so, I value our servicemen for being brave enough to do the hard yards that most won't to protect our country and way of life.
If you think the killing of 1200 innocents and kid napping of over 250 citizens isn't a justified reason for going to war then what is? Surely Israel have a right to defend themselves? Or is that not enough of an attack to warrant this.
If that's so what about the Falklands War? We sent the whole armada, plus thousands of troops 8000 Mike's away for far less than what happened on Oct 7th.
I am not hung up on certain words but let's use the correctly. If Hamas wanted to protect the Palestinian children and woman they could send them away from the conflict. They are pre warned of attacks, the IDF airdrop leaflets advising Gazans to flee the location. But they don't Hamas don't want them to. Hamas are hiding behind these poor citizens, when they could evacuate them. And they could evacuate them. Gaza is made up of approximately 5% urban areas with 95% being empty spaces. Nobody said it would be ideal but they wouldn't be in the way of bombs and troops there. Hamas want Palestinian kids, the 'child martyrs' as they call them to die. It suits their PR. Callous bucks don't care about any innocents, Israeli or Palestinian.
Unfortunately civilians die in war. But that's what it is, War.
Oct 7th wasn't war, now that was a mass slaughter and terrorism.
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x
No, you misunderstand. I'm agreeing with you. Just because these people use terror tactics, and mass slaughter innocent civilians, we can't label them as "terrorists", and furthermore we need to use the non-labelling as terrorists as some kind of justification for playing down the atrocicties being committed. You are not agreeing with me if you think the IDF are 'mass slaughtering' or using 'terror tactics", that's Hamas territory.
Mrs x
Is it the "mass" or the "slaughter" that you don't like the use of?
They are killing vast numbers of Palestinian people. So "mass slaughter" would be a fair way of describing it.
Is there a preferred word to describe the tactics used by the IDF to kill vast numbers of Palestinian people other than "terror tactics "?
Final question, why are the words used to describe the atrocicties being committed more important to you than the atrocicties themselves? I couldn't give a shit which words are used, I care about the innocent people being killed.So our soldiers committed mass slaughter and used terror tactics in every war we've fought in? I don't think so, I value our servicemen for being brave enough to do the hard yards that most won't to protect our country and way of life.
If you think the killing of 1200 innocents and kid napping of over 250 citizens isn't a justified reason for going to war then what is? Surely Israel have a right to defend themselves? Or is that not enough of an attack to warrant this.
If that's so what about the Falklands War? We sent the whole armada, plus thousands of troops 8000 Mike's away for far less than what happened on Oct 7th.
I am not hung up on certain words but let's use the correctly. If Hamas wanted to protect the Palestinian children and woman they could send them away from the conflict. They are pre warned of attacks, the IDF airdrop leaflets advising Gazans to flee the location. But they don't Hamas don't want them to. Hamas are hiding behind these poor citizens, when they could evacuate them. And they could evacuate them. Gaza is made up of approximately 5% urban areas with 95% being empty spaces. Nobody said it would be ideal but they wouldn't be in the way of bombs and troops there. Hamas want Palestinian kids, the 'child martyrs' as they call them to die. It suits their PR. Callous bucks don't care about any innocents, Israeli or Palestinian.
Unfortunately civilians die in war. But that's what it is, War.
Oct 7th wasn't war, now that was a mass slaughter and terrorism.
Mrs x
So the use of the word "war" is important to you.
If it's not "war" mass killing civilians is bad.
If it's "war" mass killing civilians is cool?"Killing innocents is never cool, I've said I deplore the killing of any innocents not matter what side they stand on. It's the context that makes it different. Millions of Germans killed in WW2, more than those killed in GB. So we're the Germans victims of 'mass slaughter' and the Allies using 'terror tactics' or were they casualties of war? Your use of such terminology seems to point to a guilt on the side of the IDF. I know there have been thousands killed but the language implies something that's not there, intent is not there. Hamas hide military targets behind woman and children. That's why there are so many casualties. IDF don't target innocents but if they are located at such targets they are in harms way. They could be moved by Hamas but they choose not to. Hamas deliberately target 1200 innocents on Oct 7th, hunted them down and murdered them. There is a huge difference. If I were to say that all the IDF did was to assist in afterlife preparations for the child martyrs of Gaza, rather than acknowledge that they killed children during a legitimate attack n a military target, I would be disingenuous. Both mean the same thing basically just one phrase does not account for context. IDF are soldiers, they do not target civilians. Hamas are terrorists and definitely target civilians. Israel has a right to defend itself. Mrs x | |||
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"Rafah could be 'deadliest' attack on children since war began. For children in Gaza, this offensive could be the deadliest and most destructive chapter of the conflict yet. Gemma Sherrington, Interim CEO, Save the Children UK.IDF not attacking children, maybe Hamas should do what Britain did in WW2 and move the children out of harms way. But they won't, they want the adverse media coverage to suit their narrative. Mrs x IDF kills and attack children deliberately. Here is the link for you again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzdaw 404 link broken or doesn't exist. Hamas kills kids by burning babies alive. Mrs x https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ytzd IDF terrotists kills babies and children. Hamas burns babies alive, actually targets them, this is not collateral damage, Mrs x Wilkapedia : Dead baby in oven claim It was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, commentator John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". I don't disagree. But those burnt baby pics were proven to be 100% accurate. You just refuse to read the report. Mrs xjust for clarity of discussion, can you confirm which instance you are referencing here. Oct 7th a burnt babies corpse was found. It was this baby that pics were taken of. Mrs xwithout doubting that there was a picture, was itsbhown that it was an intentional burning, rather than being part of a rocket attack. As I would guess that IDF have also burned babies too if we define it as being a at the result of missile attack. (Not condoning the attacks. Clarifying what you are saying) Oct 7th saw many deliberately burnings. I'm unaware of bombs used by Hamas on this occasion. The terrorists actually raided villages, went door to door killing, torturing and burning innocent Israelis. They killed over 1200 and kid napped over 250. Mrscxcan you link something that shows this. Btw hamas fired 3,000 rockets according to IDF. They may have done but they couldn't have been firing them when taking hostages, that would be ridiculous even for Hamas. Mrswho has made that claim ? I was simply saying rockets were used on Oct 7th as you were unaware. They were fired into Israel, I don't think they were fired were at the targets Hamas ground forces targeted. The baby claims came from an Israeli health worker but not from Zaka. The Israel government then released images of the burnt baby's corspe to the USA government and then others. Mrs xthey did. Irrc it was part of the same press as the beheadings. Which also had the comment that they couldn't tell what caused it. That's why I'd like some actual links as the headlines and the details won't always match. The other poster gave a link to back up their claims.The beheading was a member of Zaka, a different health agency. The guy who made the claim was an ultra right wing Zionist and he admitted he had lied. This other guy, is from a different health agency and there's nothing suggested he lied. He helped carry out corpses, lots of them had been burned alive. In one of the body bags there appeared to be a lighter cadaver. This was the burnt baby. Which was photographed and it was these images that were published. Nothing to do with Zaka on the false beheading stories. I can find the source again but a little busy right now but I'm sure it's easy enough to find. Mrs xno rush. But I thought the beheading was also official Israel channels. No idea who zaka is! Zaka is a paramedic group. It was one of their guys that told this story about beheaded babies but he was biased, a right wing zionist and admitted fabricating the story. Others were beheaded just not babies. https://www.nysun.com/article/further-reports-come-to-light-in-case-of-the-baby-who-perished-in-an-oven-during-the-attack-by-hamas-a-tragedy-that-has-horrified-millions That's from the New York Sun. Mrs xim confused as this also (according to wiki) is fake "Israeli journalists and police found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false"."That's exactly true, if you read the article I sent the guy was not part of Zaka. Same journalist wrote both stories too. Never trust Wiki 100%, after all it's written by its users and not by Wiki. Anyone can contribute and that's why it's wrong a lot of the time. Mrs xoh 100pc.i don't trust wiki that why Ive said confused. As I don't trust newspapers either. And even that article left the door open to the circumstances. You semi like a very clever guy. That's why I would never quote Wiki. Or Twiter/ X at you. On the burnt babies thing I gave three sources from reputable outlets. One a national news channel, another from a world renowned newspaper and also from Adversa, a world leading company specialising in AI imaging. They all verified this pic, released by tge Knessett was a genuine pic. I give reliable, quality sources to back up my claims. Using lesser reliable, partisan or those known to peddle in untruths would just weaken anyone's argument. That said you can only lead a horse to the water. If others don't want to read the sources that's up to them but it doesn't mean the sources are not true. It's like as a child, when you don't like to hear something, you stick your fingers in your ears and go 'Lalalalalalala....' until the stuff you don't want to hear stops. Now I'm not saying that you are like this, quite the opposite. That's why when you asked for a source I supplied another, internationally known,no partisan newspaper so you could read it and make up your own mind. It's easy telling lies as you don't have to back them up. Telli g the truth is so much harder as you have to provide an amount of proof to satisfy your claims. Mrs x She will only quote lies from Israeli propaganda media outlets A French news channel, two American newspapers? Didn't know they were in Israel. You are so funny, not.
Mrs X
You think French and American are reliable source but Not BBC when it doesn’t suit your narrative. You are not even funny Jimmy Saville anyone?
Mrs x
CNN reports the evidence children killed by the IDF terrorists War criminals.
https://x.com/jdiamond1/status/1786061855615549929?s=48So sad, such a tragedy, that poor little girl. But IDF not terrorists.
Mrs xno there just not are they they are soldiers there’s a big difference
That's right. I'm sure the vast numbers of Palestinian kids, women, civilians that have been mass slaughtered by the IDF can take comfort knowing that their killers weren't labelled "terrorists".So you must apply this to ALL soldiers, servicemen, who fight in any conflict.
Lots more terrorists around than I first thought.
So what do we call the 'actual terrorists' now. You know the ones you behead, blow up, shoot, race and burn innocents.
I suggest you choose something 'cuddly' to go with your narrative.
Mrs x
No, you misunderstand. I'm agreeing with you. Just because these people use terror tactics, and mass slaughter innocent civilians, we can't label them as "terrorists", and furthermore we need to use the non-labelling as terrorists as some kind of justification for playing down the atrocicties being committed. You are not agreeing with me if you think the IDF are 'mass slaughtering' or using 'terror tactics", that's Hamas territory.
Mrs x
Is it the "mass" or the "slaughter" that you don't like the use of?
They are killing vast numbers of Palestinian people. So "mass slaughter" would be a fair way of describing it.
Is there a preferred word to describe the tactics used by the IDF to kill vast numbers of Palestinian people other than "terror tactics "?
Final question, why are the words used to describe the atrocicties being committed more important to you than the atrocicties themselves? I couldn't give a shit which words are used, I care about the innocent people being killed.So our soldiers committed mass slaughter and used terror tactics in every war we've fought in? I don't think so, I value our servicemen for being brave enough to do the hard yards that most won't to protect our country and way of life.
If you think the killing of 1200 innocents and kid napping of over 250 citizens isn't a justified reason for going to war then what is? Surely Israel have a right to defend themselves? Or is that not enough of an attack to warrant this.
If that's so what about the Falklands War? We sent the whole armada, plus thousands of troops 8000 Mike's away for far less than what happened on Oct 7th.
I am not hung up on certain words but let's use the correctly. If Hamas wanted to protect the Palestinian children and woman they could send them away from the conflict. They are pre warned of attacks, the IDF airdrop leaflets advising Gazans to flee the location. But they don't Hamas don't want them to. Hamas are hiding behind these poor citizens, when they could evacuate them. And they could evacuate them. Gaza is made up of approximately 5% urban areas with 95% being empty spaces. Nobody said it would be ideal but they wouldn't be in the way of bombs and troops there. Hamas want Palestinian kids, the 'child martyrs' as they call them to die. It suits their PR. Callous bucks don't care about any innocents, Israeli or Palestinian.
Unfortunately civilians die in war. But that's what it is, War.
Oct 7th wasn't war, now that was a mass slaughter and terrorism.
Mrs x
So the use of the word "war" is important to you.
If it's not "war" mass killing civilians is bad.
If it's "war" mass killing civilians is cool?"I think you're trying to unreasonably provoke that poster. Of course killing civilians is not "cool" (disgusting phrase, btw) but there is a vast difference between killing civilians when there is a legal declaration of war in place in comparison to the Hamas shits when they attacked. Hamas, as supported by Gazans, forced Israel into declaring war officially with their murderous and brutal attack on October 7th. Hamas are the fathers, brothers, sons and uncles of those who are suffering, and yet they still do it. What kind of fucking disgusting human pieces of shit will do that? The answer, is of course, Islamic extremists. The fault is entirely theirs and they need to be destroyed completely. Islamic extremism is as big a threat to the safety of the world as climate change is. Hamas are cowards, murderers, r*pists and destroyers. They are taught to be this way through their foul culture and upbringing and will not fight by the rules of war, Israel is doing its best to eradicate them. Gazans will thank them for it one day, although that day will be a long time coming. | |||
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