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"USA will take over Gaza Strip, and we will own it, and make a job of it clearing all the dangerous weapons and bombs from the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, create economic development that will supply a limited number of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Developing it to the rivieria of the Middle East. I see a long term ownership position. I see bringing stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire middle east. Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs and creating a magnificent area that nobody can see because all they see is death and destruction. " Whilst at the same time evicting the previous owners of the properties a make it a playground for the rich who can afford to live there. With the previous owners pushed out and feeling resentful about this. What a brilliant idea for resolving a long running conflict replacing one oppressor with another. | |||
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"I'm sure "Trump's plan" kind of spits in the face of international law. A part of me thinks that this was always the endgame for this "conflict"." Absolutely waterside apartments worth hundreds of millions and gateway from Israel. | |||
"Great move by the president! That will fuck those terrorist scumbags Hamas up.. I stand with Israel and the president on this one. I’m sure the lefty losers with their Palestinian flags and masked faces will be out in force with that dwarf tosser mayor of London giving it the large one." My history on Middle East and its land ownership is not good but this is displacement of 2 million people by force, followed by theft of their sovereign territory. | |||
"Great move by the president! That will fuck those terrorist scumbags Hamas up.. I stand with Israel and the president on this one. I’m sure the lefty losers with their Palestinian flags and masked faces will be out in force with that dwarf tosser mayor of London giving it the large one." So how about we flatten your house confiscate the land it sits on and forcibly go and make you and your family live in Dudley never to be allowed to return. (Apologies to anyone who lives in Dudley) ![]() | |||
"USA will take over Gaza Strip, and we will own it, and make a job of it clearing all the dangerous weapons and bombs from the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, create economic development that will supply a limited number of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Developing it to the rivieria of the Middle East. I see a long term ownership position. I see bringing stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire middle east. Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs and creating a magnificent area that nobody can see because all they see is death and destruction. " So basically a big Trump plaza entertainment complex complete with arena at one end complete with a huge army/naval base ![]() | |||
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"USA will take over Gaza Strip, and we will own it, and make a job of it clearing all the dangerous weapons and bombs from the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, create economic development that will supply a limited number of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Developing it to the rivieria of the Middle East. I see a long term ownership position. I see bringing stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire middle east. Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs and creating a magnificent area that nobody can see because all they see is death and destruction. So basically a big Trump plaza entertainment complex complete with arena at one end complete with a huge army/naval base ![]() Built on the blood of 50,000 Palestinian women and children | |||
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"The Atlantic City of the Med. Trump casinos and hotels everywhere. This is a very strange idea. " Is it worse than terrorist tunnels everywhere? | |||
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"The Atlantic City of the Med. Trump casinos and hotels everywhere. This is a very strange idea. Is it worse than terrorist tunnels everywhere?" I mean there is the potential for them to become a tourist attraction. Old Donny could be thinking of the merch. | |||
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"What will be the international reaction to Trumps announcement today. " In the NATO countries, it will be muted. None of our leaders have the spine to call him out on anything he says or does. As for the UK, specifically, Starmer and Lammy wouldn't even back Canada up - and they remain unperturbed by the slaughter of Palestinian women and children in Gaza. So, no reaction here. Just "good men" doing nothing. | |||
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"Anyone who thinks it's not such a bad idea, it could be an improvement, are clearly not bothered about the rule of law. Obviously, neither are Trump and Netanyahu. But for those of you who do think it's practical and breaking laws you expect everyone else to uphold is just fine; please, tell us how you see it being achieved - and the consequences flowing from it." Exactly this ![]() | |||
"Anyone who thinks it's not such a bad idea, it could be an improvement, are clearly not bothered about the rule of law. Obviously, neither are Trump and Netanyahu. But for those of you who do think it's practical and breaking laws you expect everyone else to uphold is just fine; please, tell us how you see it being achieved - and the consequences flowing from it. Exactly this ![]() I think you might be looking at this through the eyes of a bewildered media, who will push the Trump message harder and faster for clicks and attention, it has worked wonderfully in here.. The idea of the US owning Gaza is enough to force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them. Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them ![]() | |||
"I think you might be looking at this through the eyes of a bewildered media, who will push the Trump message harder and faster for clicks and attention, it has worked wonderfully in here.. The idea of the US owning Gaza is enough to force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them. Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them ![]() I'm looking at it from the point of view of the United States and Israel's contempt for international law and the message that sends actual dictatorships. How is it that you argue his announcement will "force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them", then go on to say "Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that". Do you think they don't know that? I don't think he's got anything moving, or that he is aware - at any meaningful level - of the issues involved; certainly not the practicalities. Clearly, you do. Not everyone is keen to grant him as much credit. | |||
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"I think you might be looking at this through the eyes of a bewildered media, who will push the Trump message harder and faster for clicks and attention, it has worked wonderfully in here.. The idea of the US owning Gaza is enough to force the Palestinians, Hamas, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and many others to fix issues, rather than create them. Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them ![]() Exactly and that is why he can play people like a fiddle, people are to preoccupied in bringing him down, and discrediting him to think beyond his literal words. The part you quoted me on ref; then go on to say "Think about it, the US haven't got the cash, time, or internal appetite and Trump knows that". You said; Do you think they don't know that? You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" | |||
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"Ok let's run with this for a moment. Imagine everyone says "yeah this is a great idea let's do it" Where are they going to house an entire displaced nation, maybe that's why he's eyeing up Greenland? Next the logistics of moving all of these people would be immense. Next the expense involved would be ENORMOUS like hundreds of billions huge, I can't see the American people saying " yeah fuck it use our tax dollars we don't care, we are loaded" It's the craziest thing I have heard." Of course it is madness, but people believe it can happen because of Trump, the media revel in it, the Trump haters are livid. The whole world appears to believe it, that is powerful bargaining position to be starting from ![]() | |||
"Ok let's run with this for a moment. Imagine everyone says "yeah this is a great idea let's do it" Where are they going to house an entire displaced nation, maybe that's why he's eyeing up Greenland? Next the logistics of moving all of these people would be immense. Next the expense involved would be ENORMOUS like hundreds of billions huge, I can't see the American people saying " yeah fuck it use our tax dollars we don't care, we are loaded" It's the craziest thing I have heard." Indeed. The real problem is that for the "leader of the free world" to be coming out with such nonsense, does nothing to solve the problem, damages his credibility as an ally and encourages the opponents of rules based democratic order. It does make you wonder what he's going to say next, just to get attention. Maybe he could offer the Falklands to Argentina? | |||
"Depressing but I was kinda expecting such pussy footing to Netanyahu. I wonder how all the pro-Palestine people who voted for Trump over Harris, due to her pro-conflict comments, feel now... " the pro palestine people mainly didnt vote full stop, was a tiny minority who gave trump yhere vote the others either didnt vote or voted for 3rd party candidates | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" " Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂" You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() No. It is something to worry about - because he doesn't think it's BS when he says it and neither do his supporters. If you're suggesting that he's knowingly talking BS, in order to get what he wants; how long do you think that's going to work until he has to back his BS up? And then what? You just watch the carnage and say "Well played Mr. President"? | |||
"Is he actually serious? If he is, other than Netanyahu, who will be cheering him on?" His brain dead followers. | |||
"The more territory the Israelis or Americans control in the Middle East, the more peaceful it will become. People living in extremist-run Islamic nations will see how these areas thrive and want some of it. Against the US and Israel, the only chance they'll have to improve their lives will be through peaceful measures, not the violence that currently exists between them. " For balance, the US is the most unequal high-income economy in the world, with wealth inequality rising. The top ten percent of American families controlled nearly 70 percent of the wealth in the US in 2022. Over the last fifty years, the poverty rate in the US has remained stagnant. I remain to be convinced how this will work out for homeless penniless gazans. | |||
"Take Trump out of the situation, the idea isn't such a bad one, Gaza before was overcrowded and not pretty sight. Whoever the architects involved didn't like character and Arabic building concepts. Most of it looked like 60's block building quite frankly shit. It would be nice to see Arabic style villas their after the war. The one good thing came from WWII factories and housing waere rebuilt. Germany actually came out on top effectively, after they became an industrial economic powerhouse ironically. Britain did them a favour by literally blowing the crap out of them. Auf wiedersen pet. " Israel and America will never allow Palestinians to prosper, whilst most Germans disassociated themselves in public with the Nazi's and as a society they put in place structures and laws to prohibit them post war there's no way will Hamas and Iran give up their hold on Gaza to allow them to develop as an independent state even if Israel accepts it's the only way forward.. | |||
"The more territory the Israelis or Americans control in the Middle East, the more peaceful it will become. People living in extremist-run Islamic nations will see how these areas thrive and want some of it. Against the US and Israel, the only chance they'll have to improve their lives will be through peaceful measures, not the violence that currently exists between them. For balance, the US is the most unequal high-income economy in the world, with wealth inequality rising. The top ten percent of American families controlled nearly 70 percent of the wealth in the US in 2022. Over the last fifty years, the poverty rate in the US has remained stagnant. I remain to be convinced how this will work out for homeless penniless gazans. " Wealthy Americans are high-maintenance people. I would imagine there will be many jobs needing to be filled by local Gazans. All they need to do is not slaughter or behead the people attached to the hands that feed them. This will be a massive culture change for most of them, but that's a good kind of progress. | |||
"Ok let's run with this for a moment. Imagine everyone says "yeah this is a great idea let's do it" Where are they going to house an entire displaced nation, maybe that's why he's eyeing up Greenland? Next the logistics of moving all of these people would be immense. Next the expense involved would be ENORMOUS like hundreds of billions huge, I can't see the American people saying " yeah fuck it use our tax dollars we don't care, we are loaded" It's the craziest thing I have heard." Yes I agree it is crazy. The American taxpayer has given billions in aid to a terrorist organisation to flatten huge areas. Now the terrorists are saying the only option is for Gazans to be removed, something netenyahu has been terrorising the Gazans for years to do, so sometimes terrorism does work. The best place for the palistinians is Israel (their original homeland for the majority) There's plenty of room there. | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() I'm obviously not explaining myself clearly enough. Let me have another go and if we remove TDS from this hopefully it will be clearer. He is suggesting something that will never fly, he knows that because the reality is neither Egypt nor Jordan will ever allow 2 million Palestinians into their country and disrupt it the way they would. Secondly, Palestinians would rather hold onto a piece of rubble than be moved, not a great mindset in my opinion but the one they have. Thirdly, the American people will not want anything to do with another middle eastern problem with boots on the ground. Finally, nobody in their wildest dreams would have predicted this would have come out as an idea! It might be enough for the warring middle east to take a moment and consider their options, if it changes the all out war mentality to focus on rebuilding Gaza, then he has played a blinder, maybe without knowing, maybe he did. There is absolutely no reason to be losing any sleep over this, unless people believe Trump could carry out the idea which is as crazy as the Trump idea itself in my opinion.... ![]() | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Just an idea but couldn't this be funded privately, with contracts awarded to companies? Have no idea about the logistics behind this but remember my brother in law being one of those private ex military guys guarding contractors who helped rebuild Iraq and he was never out of work looking after such guys so it must have been on a large scale. Just a thought, you can tell me where I'm going wrong because I'm sure I am, Mrs x | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Did they move the Iraqis to another country ? | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() so are you supporting this idea of trump's let's call it what it is ethnic cleansing. | |||
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"Can we just call it what this is… and then if you want to be on the “right side” of history and argue your point, then away you go! An American president proposed Ethnic cleansing as a solution…… Have at it! " Hey y'all voted him in ![]() ![]() | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Hang on, I just asked a question of someone, I never stated a preference for anything, chill. Mrs x | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Didn't say i supported anything, just asked another poster a question, does that answer your question? Mrs x | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm guessing the rebuild would be more or less like that, but the problem with Gaza is nobody is going to invest in its current form of Hamas control. I think what Trump was alluding to is move out the Palestinians, and get rebuilding without the worry of Hamas. The problem that would arise from this, is neighbouring countries simply do not get on with the Palestinians and will not have them in their countries. It is interesting that people keep calling out ethnic cleansing, it would only be ethnic cleansing if they did not volunteer to leave, then it would not be illegal to temporarily accommodate while the area was rebuilt. Would the average Palestinian volunteer to move out and then come back to a new home, not a chance, the locals who stayed would make sure it was not a place of welcome to return to, I'm sure. There are more things going against this idea than going for it, namely the Palestinians. | |||
"Great move by the president! That will fuck those terrorist scumbags Hamas up.. I stand with Israel and the president on this one. I’m sure the lefty losers with their Palestinian flags and masked faces will be out in force with that dwarf tosser mayor of London giving it the large one. My history on Middle East and its land ownership is not good but this is displacement of 2 million people by force, followed by theft of their sovereign territory. " You are so right - your history actually appears to be non existent | |||
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"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism." The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? " Two state solution.. | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() and I asked if you support this idea especially as in so many of your other comments on other posts you do come across as very pro Israeli over Gaza in my opinion. | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. " You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism." ![]() ![]() | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. " Netanyahu has stated many times he will never allow a 2 state solution to happen. | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? " You??? Na.. ![]() | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. Netanyahu has stated many times he will never allow a 2 state solution to happen." I know.. I remember the Rev Ian Paisley frothing at the mouth ranting 'never, never,never'.. Netanyahu will not be there forever.. | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na.. ![]() Moi ![]() | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() See that's the problem, I'm not necessarily pro Israeli but I am vehemently anti terrorist. You are welcome to your opinion though, Mrs x | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na.. ![]() ![]() It's not an easy solution, I don't think many people believe such a thing exists.. But certainly the status quo and the never ending cycle of violence and hatred can't continue.. | |||
" Two state solution.. Netanyahu has stated many times he will never allow a 2 state solution to happen." The two-state solution is naive. The West Bank is way too close to Ben Gurion Airport to not be a security risk. Nobody with any skin in the game wants it, regardless of the side. Trump's plan is not original, and I don't think it should be forced at gunpoint - but generous opportunities to prosper outside of Gaza are better than more of the same. | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() If your anti terrorist then you would be against what netenyahu and the Zionist terrorists have done and I don't see that from you | |||
"Great move by the president! That will fuck those terrorist scumbags Hamas up.. I stand with Israel and the president on this one. I’m sure the lefty losers with their Palestinian flags and masked faces will be out in force with that dwarf tosser mayor of London giving it the large one." Bored of playing with leggo? | |||
"The Atlantic City of the Med. Trump casinos and hotels everywhere. This is a very strange idea. " Not to a pathological sociopath who might have suggested it. Bomb, flatten, displace, rebuild. Watch the moolah flow in. Pat on back. Job done. | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. You are going to think I’m being argumentative, but I assure you I’m not. Simple question, why would a 2 state solution work. I can’t see it working, I can’t see how peace would be maintained I can see it getting worse and the potential overflow of Palestinians leaving for neighbouring countries should it go wrong would cause a problem larger than the one today. Have I got that wrong? You??? Na.. ![]() ![]() Agreed ![]() | |||
"The Atlantic City of the Med. Trump casinos and hotels everywhere. This is a very strange idea. Not to a pathological sociopath who might have suggested it. Bomb, flatten, displace, rebuild. Watch the moolah flow in. Pat on back. Job done." What does this actually mean? "pathological sociopath" | |||
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"Bibi didn't look too happy when Trump said this. Certainly puts a block on the Greater Israel " Far from it. It looks like the US and Israel are in cahoots to get rid of Palestinians once and for all, and then rebuild Gaza as a kind of US/Israel annex. | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Which Zionist terrorists are you talking about this time? Mrs x | |||
" The sheer amount of faux outrage that spins out of these discussions doesn’t help either. Trump divides opinion, but the way people let their emotions override rational thinking is astonishing 🤷🏼♂️" Objecting to the ethnic cleansing of 2 million people is "faux outrage"? Guess it's easier not to let your emotions influence your thinking when you don't have any other than hatred. | |||
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" The sheer amount of faux outrage that spins out of these discussions doesn’t help either. Trump divides opinion, but the way people let their emotions override rational thinking is astonishing 🤷🏼♂️ Objecting to the ethnic cleansing of 2 million people is "faux outrage"? Guess it's easier not to let your emotions influence your thinking when you don't have any other than hatred. " I think you need to put my comment in context of its intended use. It is bad form to take a snippet and add your spin to it. For reference: These discussions = about Trump, all trump discussions. Faux outrage = The overuse of emotional, exaggerated rhetoric, long rants filled with words like ‘narcissist, sociopath, psychopath’ all in one sentence. As for ethnic cleansing, I addressed that in this thread, so I'm not sure why you have considered me to be supporting such a thing? | |||
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"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Interesting that you've phrased it in that way, possibly to attempt to diminish my previous post, but I'll ignore that. The same Zionist terror organisation that has -forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in the name of religion using violence - persued the attempt to clear Gaza through terrorism including the mass destruction of Gaza - killed foreign aid workers - had arrest warrants issued to answer for their actions - openly declared a policy of declaring all Palestinians collectively responsible declaring them all "animals" - the Jews that are just as horrified at what the Zionists are doing in their name, including haulocaust survivors having their suffering used as an excuse by Zionists to commit these atrocities the jews you mocked and scoffed at in previous posts I submitted because they're against Zionism (and I doubt your even Jewish so don't know what how or where you feel you have the right to mock Jews in the first place! - an antisemetic act) - the Zionism that is allowed to act above international law and is assisted by American taxpayers to commit illegal actions - the same Zionists that are openly supporting and encouraging the ethnic cleansing of Gaza According to you condemn any terrorist acts such as the 7 October as I do But you justify Israel committing atrocities that lead to the 7 October atrocities and after the 7 October atrocities not sure if that's helpful for you to understand because I have to remind myself that you lack the moral sense or regard of international law on humanity and need assistance in such matters. | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Still attacking the poster and not the post I see. I'm not even going to bother myself repeating what I've said. Other than you are talking about a politician and an ideology that was created as a call for a return to an ancestral homeland. None of that is terrorism, it may be wrong but not terrorism the 7th October atrocities we're acts of terror. Burning a baby alive in an oven is not just wrong it's terrorism. Israel, the state, their politicians, nor their soldier's are not considered by the International community as terrorists, whereas Hamas definitely is. Go look it up but you might not fi d it on X, you should really do some reading about this, it helps. Mrs x | |||
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"26.000 displaced people in the west bank now and yet again the IDF are bulldozing homes and ripping up roads! " I'm sure the usual Zionist apologists will be along to defend it with waffle - including a certain one that's got evey excuse under the sun for them | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() I answered a post the best way I could at the time. How people react to my post is out of my hands. If it offends then people shouldn't ask them, especially if questions or opinions set to me are based from a biased perspective | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() I can forgive people's ignorance because they've never Sen 1st hand the horrors of war | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() I forgive your ignorance . Bless you | |||
"You missed out this part I wrote above that; "Even if they believe it wouldn't happen there is enough doubt to unsettle them" Yes. If they believe it wouldn't happen, then there is no doubt. Happy to help. 🙂 You think it is BS and nothing to worry about, so what is with the anger if it is pure Trumpism and it blows away in the wind through nobody believing..... Or maybe you have failed to see the political edge it might give come negotiations? Time will tell but I can see the world TDS is getting above a level 8, which is rather dangerous. ![]() ![]() ![]() Hahaha, you do make me laugh, attacking the poster again and not the post. Your constant talk about Zionism is ignorant, regarding its true meaning. It's not even an exclusive thought amongst Jews or even Israel. It's original form has, and still is, practised in other parts of the world today. By other people's and other religions are they evil too. Have a think about that why you're wobbling your tin foil covered head haha, Mrs x | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. " Two state solution is never going to work. Sooner or later the government of Gaza would be hijacked by Iran as a proxy terror state. Then we are back to square one. Palestinians are pledged to reclaim their historic lands now part of Israel. That's not going to happen either. As nutty as Trump's plan is, it's no worse than any of the other scenarios. | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. Two state solution is never going to work. Sooner or later the government of Gaza would be hijacked by Iran as a proxy terror state. Then we are back to square one. Palestinians are pledged to reclaim their historic lands now part of Israel. That's not going to happen either. As nutty as Trump's plan is, it's no worse than any of the other scenarios." Not saying i agree with Trump but it's not even a new idea in this area. Palestinians have never had a kingdom of its own. Once the Jews were kicked out by the Romans, this area has been under the control of one empire or another. Prior to the creation of the new state of Israel it was run by the British as part of the Mandate. So there has been other precedents for this kind of thing. Whether it's a good idea or a bad one I'm not sure yet, think that would be a 'time' thing. Mrs x | |||
"Sounds like US and Israel are in cahoots on yet another Lebensraum plan. The world needs to unite against this imperialism. The place was falling down before it was bombed. How do you think a rebuild will look, state of the art architecture or thrown up poorly made concrete boxes? It is a dilemma, nobody can live with the Palestinians, so nobody can help them, step in a bunch of terrorists and we start again. What’s the answer, leave them to it? Two state solution.. Two state solution is never going to work. Sooner or later the government of Gaza would be hijacked by Iran as a proxy terror state. Then we are back to square one. Palestinians are pledged to reclaim their historic lands now part of Israel. That's not going to happen either. As nutty as Trump's plan is, it's no worse than any of the other scenarios." Actually Im not convinced that Iran has that amount of leverage over the Palestinians . Hamas would accept weapons etc. from Iran or anywhere else due to their situation to resist the occupation and Israeli (Zionist) aggression | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x" Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent | |||
"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent " Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x | |||
"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent " You ever follow your own advice? Mrs x | |||
"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x" If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways | |||
"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways " But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x | |||
"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x" So what's your solution.? | |||
"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x So what's your solution.?" Answer my question first, are Mormons terrorist? Mrs x | |||
"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways " Are all those that follow Islam terrorists because Hamas are an Islamist organisation? Mrs x | |||
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"Still on about Zionism but ignoring its not just a Jewish thing, not even violent in its original form, why is that? Mrs x Supporting terrorism is never a solution though - no matter what they represent Didn't know Mormons are terrorist? Mrs x If anyone supports Zionism as it stands now then yes they support terrorism. Hamas among others are prescribed terrorists and Zionists should be on that list too. Or what's your take on what's happening. Hamas commited monsterous acts on 7 October which is condemned Israel commited monsterous acts before AND after 7 October and not condemned in the same way by Western media at least And in some cases justified in biased ways But not all Zionists are violent, not all Zionists are Jews, not all Zionists live in Israel. So are Mormons terrorists? You state the ridiculous, it's like as if I said all Muslims are terrorists because Hamas is Islamic but obviously they aren't. You just can't fathom it out can you haha, so going back to Salt Lake City are their inhabitants terrorists? Mrs x So what's your solution.?Answer my question first, are Mormons terrorist? Mrs x" Have you seen American Primeval. I was shocked by the Mormons, shocked I tell thee. I can see where The Killers got their name from. | |||