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Downing Street is reportedly rethinking its controversial winter fuel payment cut.
Keir Starmer’s senior team has been discussing for several weeks how to handle public anger over the policy, which bubbled over in last Thursday’s local elections, when the party lost two-thirds of the council seats it was defending.
Will they be scrapping farmers IHT as well ? |
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"Not all of them surely ! My mum didn't need it and neither do many others."
She can spend it on other areas of the economy and keep it afloat. Or save it for a rainy day. Or gove it to someone who had it nicked. Money makes zee vorld go awround, that klinking klanking zound. Money Money Money. |
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"Not all of them surely ! My mum didn't need it and neither do many others."
That's not the point. It was an entitlement that was withdrawn and effectively a wage cut. A kick in the teeth of pensioners by a cynical Labour government looking for a soft target. |
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Completely overblown this imo, the WFA has become means tested has it not rather than abolished for all pensioners? In which case, also taking into account they have preserved the triple lock on pensions, I’m really not sure there is too much to moan about really.
That said, ‘taking heating money from cold pensioners’ is manna from heaven for the Daily Mail. |
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"Completely overblown this imo, the WFA has become means tested has it not rather than abolished for all pensioners? In which case, also taking into account they have preserved the triple lock on pensions, I’m really not sure there is too much to moan about really.
That said, ‘taking heating money from cold pensioners’ is manna from heaven for the Daily Mail."
Yes, if you receive pension credit you also receive WFA.
People who receive the state pension are either painted as poor, helpless ancients freezing to death in rags or technologically challenged, boomer wealth blockers who are preventing young people from getting a house because we all bought mansions for £5,000.
The pensioners who suffer most from losing their heating allowance are those just over the threshold for pension credit and that's a small percentage if those who've lost it. They're who I feel sorry for. |
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This all sounds like some Labour PR guru’s idea of saying “yes of course Starmer is listening, he has been thinking about changing policies for weeks. He is very aware of the discontent”.
Some people think Starmer is some reasonable man in a grey suit.
They think he will come to his senses, and sack the nutters in his cabinet: Reeves, Lammy and Miliband.
But he won’t change. He is an ideologue. In so far as he understands what anyone outside of his north London KC clique thinks, he just thinks they are inferior racist bigots. Why would he listen to the scum? |
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"Word from Westminster is that the government have no intention of looking at the cash grab on pensioners Winter Fuel Allowance.
Don’t piss up my back and tell me it’s raining!"
Yes looks like they have concluded that the political damage has already been done so no point in reversing the policy. When SKS says he understands people's concerns and that he gets it, he doesn't actually mean he intends to fix it |
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"If they reversed their decision it would cost approx £2 billion a year.
They would be hung out to dry.
A lot of political damage for £2bn. Equivalent to a weeks interest on the national debt. "
Or a couple of hours keeping the boat people in five star hotels 🛏️ |
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They have clung to this one like a life raft for too long. I don’t think a u turn would make any difference. And it’s also another 2 billion quid they have to find that they ain’t got.
It’s actually one of the things they have done that I agree with in principle. Where the line is drawn on who gets it and who doesn’t is the issue. People with £60k in the bank and a big fat private pension on top of the state pension shouldn’t get benefit hand outs. |
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It appears that the government have made a big error by making it cheaper and more profitable to employ workers from India than British workers. I find this incredible if correct |
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"It appears that the government have made a big error by making it cheaper and more profitable to employ workers from India than British workers. I find this incredible if correct "
See also https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1700343
What's the issue? Benefits are reciprocal, yes? |
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"It appears that the government have made a big error by making it cheaper and more profitable to employ workers from India than British workers. I find this incredible if correct
See also https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1700343
What's the issue? Benefits are reciprocal, yes? "
If it were a compatible country in India then yes but it is not.
It is not worth a British worker to go to India to work. |
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"It appears that the government have made a big error by making it cheaper and more profitable to employ workers from India than British workers. I find this incredible if correct
See also https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1700343
What's the issue? Benefits are reciprocal, yes?
If it were a compatible country in India then yes but it is not.
It is not worth a British worker to go to India to work."
I don't know about that, a life of a dabba wallah top gear style is strangely appealing.  |
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So the ones saying that WFA should be means tested are all altruistically giving their furlough money back if they got it and the 400 quid the Tories gave us all whether we needed it or not a couple of years ago to help us all through Putin's energy crisis.
Yeah right ....... Well actually we are all paying it back in higher taxes whether we like it or not or whether we had it or not. Means testing leads to an army of people means testing and I assure you half of them wont have a clue how to administer it, just Like Gordon Browns Family credit Fiasco. Trust me I know because those administrators tried to take me to court and lost. I proved that they had incompetently overpaid me. |
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