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"No immigrant should hold public office. End of. Show me one that seems to have British interests at heart? All for themselves or their countrymen"
The absolute state of this country, it's a write off at this stage. |
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"No immigrant should hold public office. End of. Show me one that seems to have British interests at heart? All for themselves or their countrymen
The absolute state of this country, it's a write off at this stage. "
Can you clarify? |
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By (user no longer on site) 39 weeks ago
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"Problem is that no one will take to the streets to protest, its called apathy
The British deserve what they get for being apathetic cunts...."
People protest against the government often. People protest for all kinds of reasons: lack of action tackling climate change, lack of action on the situation in Gaza, etc.
And people protest for negative stuff too. There's a race-hate protest on Saturday in my city. And another group of non-racists protesting.
British people protesting is not unheard of.
Seeing as Rushanara Ali has already resigned as Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Homelessness and Rough Sleeping, not sure what a protest would achieve here. But people should feel free to organise one. |
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"Problem is that no one will take to the streets to protest, its called apathy
The British deserve what they get for being apathetic cunts....
People protest against the government often. People protest for all kinds of reasons: lack of action tackling climate change, lack of action on the situation in Gaza, etc.
And people protest for negative stuff too. There's a race-hate protest on Saturday in my city. And another group of non-racists protesting."
Surely a race-hate protest is illegal? Unless the race is something like the London marathon. Which race are they protesting against? |
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By (user no longer on site) 39 weeks ago
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"Problem is that no one will take to the streets to protest, its called apathy
The British deserve what they get for being apathetic cunts....
People protest against the government often. People protest for all kinds of reasons: lack of action tackling climate change, lack of action on the situation in Gaza, etc.
And people protest for negative stuff too. There's a race-hate protest on Saturday in my city. And another group of non-racists protesting.
Surely a race-hate protest is illegal? "
I don't think it's illegal to be a racist? Not 100% sure.
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Unless the race is something like the London marathon.
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Not as far as I know.
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Which race are they protesting against? "
Non-white/British people. |
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"No immigrant should hold public office. End of. Show me one that seems to have British interests at heart? All for themselves or their countrymen"
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
Born in New York City. |
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By (user no longer on site) 39 weeks ago
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"No immigrant should hold public office. End of. Show me one that seems to have British interests at heart? All for themselves or their countrymen
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
Born in New York City."
The person you replied to asked "Show me one that seems to have British interests at heart". So that immediately disqualifies Johnson. |
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"Problem is that no one will take to the streets to protest, its called apathy
The British deserve what they get for being apathetic cunts....
People protest against the government often. People protest for all kinds of reasons: lack of action tackling climate change, lack of action on the situation in Gaza, etc.
And people protest for negative stuff too. There's a race-hate protest on Saturday in my city. And another group of non-racists protesting.
Surely a race-hate protest is illegal?
I don't think it's illegal to be a racist? Not 100% sure.
Unless the race is something like the London marathon.
Not as far as I know.
Which race are they protesting against?
Non-white/British people."
You said it was a race-hate protest, not a racist protest. I don’t think being racist is illegal, discrimination based on race is illegal and spouting hate based on race I would have thought is illegal, subject to what is actually said I guess.
I could be wrong but I don’t think “non white” is a race. |
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"No immigrant should hold public office. End of. Show me one that seems to have British interests at heart? All for themselves or their countrymen
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
Born in New York City.
The person you replied to asked "Show me one that seems to have British interests at heart". So that immediately disqualifies Johnson. "
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Rushanara Ali also had to stand down the role in her building safety portfolio. Apparently representatives of Grenfell survivors objected to her role after she attended a business conference held by one of the manufacturers of combustible insulation used at grenfell.
Does Starmer not do any due diligence before appointing ministers. |
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"Rushanara Ali also had to stand down the role in her building safety portfolio. Apparently representatives of Grenfell survivors objected to her role after she attended a business conference held by one of the manufacturers of combustible insulation used at grenfell.
Does Starmer not do any due diligence before appointing ministers. "
Surely she cannot be a champagne socialist if she doesn't drink alcohol? |
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By (user no longer on site) 39 weeks ago
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"Problem is that no one will take to the streets to protest, its called apathy
The British deserve what they get for being apathetic cunts....
People protest against the government often. People protest for all kinds of reasons: lack of action tackling climate change, lack of action on the situation in Gaza, etc.
And people protest for negative stuff too. There's a race-hate protest on Saturday in my city. And another group of non-racists protesting.
Surely a race-hate protest is illegal?
I don't think it's illegal to be a racist? Not 100% sure.
Unless the race is something like the London marathon.
Not as far as I know.
Which race are they protesting against?
Non-white/British people."
Another topic, another intellectual contortion to make it all about race.
Are you sure it isn’t you who is obsessed with race? |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt "
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site) 39 weeks ago
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"The crass double standards of a so-called socialist.
There haven't been many socialists in labour for a long time.."
Experts: too many taxes and too much regulation are stagnating the economy. The public spending trajectory is unachievable and the UK is heading for fiscal disaster.
Labour supporters: we need more socialism. |
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By (user no longer on site) 39 weeks ago
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"The crass double standards of a so-called socialist.
There haven't been many socialists in labour for a long time.."
True. They've left and formed that new Jezzbollah party. |
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By (user no longer on site) 39 weeks ago
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"Problem is that no one will take to the streets to protest, its called apathy
The British deserve what they get for being apathetic cunts....
People protest against the government often. People protest for all kinds of reasons: lack of action tackling climate change, lack of action on the situation in Gaza, etc.
And people protest for negative stuff too. There's a race-hate protest on Saturday in my city. And another group of non-racists protesting.
Surely a race-hate protest is illegal?
I don't think it's illegal to be a racist? Not 100% sure.
Unless the race is something like the London marathon.
Not as far as I know.
Which race are they protesting against?
Non-white/British people.
You said it was a race-hate protest, not a racist protest. I don’t think being racist is illegal, discrimination based on race is illegal and spouting hate based on race I would have thought is illegal, subject to what is actually said I guess.
I could be wrong but I don’t think “non white” is a race. "
Well in fairness, they're not the smartest bunch.
Anyway, it was just an example to the person who was suggesting that "no one will take to the streets" over Rushanara Ali, who has already resigned. |
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"Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves."
i agree. there is definately a culture of enrichment through power of office in this country and it needs to be ended.
the thing is that enrichment through power of office is traditionally and actively defended by the conservative vote and any move to address it is decried as an attack on the wealthy and their "right" to enjoy their gained wealth. |
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as an aside, people have been vocal about any proposals to abolish section 21 notices as an attack on the rights of property owners or landlords. but when this right to section 21 is exercised the same vocal people become all socialist and have a tantrum the other way. how fickle! |
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By *otMe66Man 39 weeks ago
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves."
Exactly..
Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do. |
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Attacking pensioners, farmers, the disabled and legislating to sell off allotments for maximum profit.
Corruption minister resigned for corruption, Rayner holidaying in donor Ali’s second home wearing free clothes.
Labour looking worse every passing day. Starmer blind to public opinion.
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves.
Exactly..
Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do. "
ok, if we're having whataboutery, Nadim Zahawi caught caught stealing millions from the taxpayer whilst chancellor, attempted to engage in lawfare with a SLAP to silence the journalist who exposed him and just got a slap on the wrist. the links between business and government are grubby and distasteful but there's no desire for real change from the electorate regarding this fact. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves.
Exactly..
Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do.
ok, if we're having whataboutery, Nadim Zahawi caught caught stealing millions from the taxpayer whilst chancellor, attempted to engage in lawfare with a SLAP to silence the journalist who exposed him and just got a slap on the wrist. the links between business and government are grubby and distasteful but there's no desire for real change from the electorate regarding this fact."
Zahawi is a fraud. Do you accept Starmer is also one? |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves.
Exactly..
Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do.
ok, if we're having whataboutery, Nadim Zahawi caught caught stealing millions from the taxpayer whilst chancellor, attempted to engage in lawfare with a SLAP to silence the journalist who exposed him and just got a slap on the wrist. the links between business and government are grubby and distasteful but there's no desire for real change from the electorate regarding this fact.
Zahawi is a fraud. Do you accept Starmer is also one?"
has he been proved to have commited fraud and been penalised? |
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"Attacking pensioners, farmers, the disabled and legislating to sell off allotments for maximum profit.
Corruption minister resigned for corruption, Rayner holidaying in donor Ali’s second home wearing free clothes.
Labour looking worse every passing day. Starmer blind to public opinion.
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It’s what happens when you just want to get rid of the government you have, without giving thought to what the others are gonna do.
The good thing about it all is, this could potentially be the last ever labour government. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves.
Exactly..
Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do.
ok, if we're having whataboutery, Nadim Zahawi caught caught stealing millions from the taxpayer whilst chancellor, attempted to engage in lawfare with a SLAP to silence the journalist who exposed him and just got a slap on the wrist. the links between business and government are grubby and distasteful but there's no desire for real change from the electorate regarding this fact."
Correct of course, and dwarfed by Robert Jenrick signing off the Tory donor planning application early to avoid £40M infastructure levy
And these are the people coming to us for more tax’s in the name of fairness. |
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By *otMe66Man 39 weeks ago
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves.
Exactly..
Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do.
ok, if we're having whataboutery, Nadim Zahawi caught caught stealing millions from the taxpayer whilst chancellor, attempted to engage in lawfare with a SLAP to silence the journalist who exposed him and just got a slap on the wrist. the links between business and government are grubby and distasteful but there's no desire for real change from the electorate regarding this fact."
I was responding to the post and on topic, however you have taken a random incident with no bearing on the topic in a declaration of balancing whataboutery...  |
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Correct of course, and dwarfed by Robert Jenrick signing off the Tory donor planning application early to avoid £40M infastructure levy
And these are the people coming to us for more tax’s in the name of fairness. "
to be fair, that was for party financial gain rather than personal enrichment. the worst part of that incident was boris johnson complicitness when he stepped in and halted the investigation. jenrick and the others involved should be doing gaol time for that level of corruption. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
Labour came to office promising to improve the rights of Tennant's. Ali is currently putting through a change to the rules which would have outlawed exactly what she has just done herself. Doesn't matter the colour of the rosette they wear or the news they consume, many are in it for themselves.
Exactly..
Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do.
ok, if we're having whataboutery, Nadim Zahawi caught caught stealing millions from the taxpayer whilst chancellor, attempted to engage in lawfare with a SLAP to silence the journalist who exposed him and just got a slap on the wrist. the links between business and government are grubby and distasteful but there's no desire for real change from the electorate regarding this fact.
I was responding to the post and on topic, however you have taken a random incident with no bearing on the topic in a declaration of balancing whataboutery... "
i was responding to your whataboutery post which had deviated from the topic of the homelessness resigning  |
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For some, holding certain political views makes you guilty.
I’ve no idea what did or didn’t happen because I wasn’t there to witness anything, and neither was anyone else in this forum, unless you want to say different.
Deciding someone’s guilt of sexual offences based on you not agreeing with their politics? Wow, just wow 😮 |
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Reeves on film before the resignation saying Ali had acted in accordance with the law and didn’t understand why Tories calling for her to resign.
Hard to recall a group of people so totally out of their depth. |
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Starmer is renting out his £2 million home in Kentish town for less than £10k a year to his sister in-law. No need to declare it and no tax implications, which is counter to his mantra of "those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden"... Another do as I say not as I do.
ok, if we're having whataboutery, Nadim Zahawi caught caught stealing millions from the taxpayer whilst chancellor, attempted to engage in lawfare with a SLAP to silence the journalist who exposed him and just got a slap on the wrist. the links between business and government are grubby and distasteful but there's no desire for real change from the electorate regarding this fact.
Zahawi is a fraud. Do you accept Starmer is also one?
has he been proved to have commited fraud and been penalised?"
Lol.. Is someone a fraud only if he is proven in the court? You came up with a useless whataboutery about Zahawi. Most right wingers admit that what he did was wrong. Can left wingers admit that what Starmer did was wrong too? If you think one of them is a bad guy but the other is not, you are just a hypocrite |
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zahawi committed a crime. while i disagree with the tax rules surrounding wealth, starmer has not committed a crime. you argue most vorciferously that wealth should not be taxed and yet here you are being a hypocrite. |
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By *otMe66Man 39 weeks ago
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"zahawi committed a crime. while i disagree with the tax rules surrounding wealth, starmer has not committed a crime. you argue most vorciferously that wealth should not be taxed and yet here you are being a hypocrite."
Neither did Ali when she evicted her tenants and put the rent up by £700. Not whataboutery is it, when you look at their lack of personal judgement. |
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"zahawi committed a crime. while i disagree with the tax rules surrounding wealth, starmer has not committed a crime. you argue most vorciferously that wealth should not be taxed and yet here you are being a hypocrite."
You are the one who started talking about Zahawi when someone else was talking about Starmer's hypocrisy. Now you are suddenly arguing that what both did are not the same thing  |
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Neither did Ali when she evicted her tenants and put the rent up by £700. Not whataboutery is it, when you look at their lack of personal judgement."
no it's not. i think she should've resigned and she did. in fact i don't think any member of parliament, commons or lords, should be landlords .... and i also think having property portfolios in that position are highly questionable. |
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"Reeves on film before the resignation saying Ali had acted in accordance with the law and didn’t understand why Tories calling for her to resign.
Hard to recall a group of people so totally out of their depth."
Reeves with fake CV has no credibility either |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt "
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread."
Let’s assume your version is correct, although you’ve just extracted information from a different source to the OP? Or have you spoken to those involved?
All tenancies are fixed term and nearly always include an option to extend. Did the tenants want to extend? If so, they were technically evicted regardless of if their tenancy came to an end or not.
So they seized the opportunity to liquify their assets, I assume to move the funds offshore and avoid potential new taxes the party has been discussing in private?
That didn’t work out so they ramped up the rent and made a killing that way
Bottom line, if they didn’t think it was wrong they wouldn’t have resigned |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
Let’s assume your version is correct, although you’ve just extracted information from a different source to the OP? Or have you spoken to those involved?
All tenancies are fixed term and nearly always include an option to extend. Did the tenants want to extend? If so, they were technically evicted regardless of if their tenancy came to an end or not.
So they seized the opportunity to liquify their assets, I assume to move the funds offshore and avoid potential new taxes the party has been discussing in private?
That didn’t work out so they ramped up the rent and made a killing that way
Bottom line, if they didn’t think it was wrong they wouldn’t have resigned "
under the current terms of the housing act 1988, when a fixed term ends there is no automatic right to renew, end of. don't get me wrong, i think the forthcoming laws surrounding rental properties in january is an improvement, but the initial report of the situation in question isn't accurate.
i have set out my opinion about politicians and property ownership earlier. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread."
So why did she resign?
As Reeves herself said “she has done nothing wrong”.
Is the Labour government weak and can’t withstand pressure from the media for a few hours? |
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as an aside, when the law change comes in in january, the telegraph will declare it as "labours war on .....(delete as applicable)". at that point i expect that the rightists frothing at the mouth over this will be absolutely rabid as they decry the forthcoming assault on "landlords rights". |
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"as an aside, when the law change comes in in january, the telegraph will declare it as "labours war on .....(delete as applicable)". at that point i expect that the rightists frothing at the mouth over this will be absolutely rabid as they decry the forthcoming assault on "landlords rights". "
There is only one side who are being hypocritical in this whole thing. |
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"as an aside, when the law change comes in in january, the telegraph will declare it as "labours war on .....(delete as applicable)". at that point i expect that the rightists frothing at the mouth over this will be absolutely rabid as they decry the forthcoming assault on "landlords rights".
There is only one side who are being hypocritical in this whole thing."
yes, you've demonstrated that with your bizarre and conflicted posts on the matter |
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"as an aside, when the law change comes in in january, the telegraph will declare it as "labours war on .....(delete as applicable)". at that point i expect that the rightists frothing at the mouth over this will be absolutely rabid as they decry the forthcoming assault on "landlords rights".
There is only one side who are being hypocritical in this whole thing.
yes, you've demonstrated that with your bizarre and conflicted posts on the matter"
Not really. Labour has been screaming about how landlords are bad and exploitative but you have a Labour MP doing the exact thing that Labour has been complaining about.
The conservatives never complained about Landlords behaviour or promised to pass laws against it. They just pointed out Labour hypocrisy in this matter. |
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"as an aside, when the law change comes in in january, the telegraph will declare it as "labours war on .....(delete as applicable)". at that point i expect that the rightists frothing at the mouth over this will be absolutely rabid as they decry the forthcoming assault on "landlords rights".
There is only one side who are being hypocritical in this whole thing.
yes, you've demonstrated that with your bizarre and conflicted posts on the matter
Not really. Labour has been screaming about how landlords are bad and exploitative but you have a Labour MP doing the exact thing that Labour has been complaining about.
The conservatives never complained about Landlords behaviour or promised to pass laws against it. They just pointed out Labour hypocrisy in this matter."
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"as an aside, when the law change comes in in january, the telegraph will declare it as "labours war on .....(delete as applicable)". at that point i expect that the rightists frothing at the mouth over this will be absolutely rabid as they decry the forthcoming assault on "landlords rights".
There is only one side who are being hypocritical in this whole thing.
yes, you've demonstrated that with your bizarre and conflicted posts on the matter
Not really. Labour has been screaming about how landlords are bad and exploitative but you have a Labour MP doing the exact thing that Labour has been complaining about.
The conservatives never complained about Landlords behaviour or promised to pass laws against it. They just pointed out Labour hypocrisy in this matter.
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Great argument "
you're the only one arguing and you're doing that for the sake of it, so i can't be bothered unless you want to drop the purile nonsense and have something grown up to say rather than accusing me of being hypocritical when i've been nothing of the sort. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
Let’s assume your version is correct, although you’ve just extracted information from a different source to the OP? Or have you spoken to those involved?
All tenancies are fixed term and nearly always include an option to extend. Did the tenants want to extend? If so, they were technically evicted regardless of if their tenancy came to an end or not.
So they seized the opportunity to liquify their assets, I assume to move the funds offshore and avoid potential new taxes the party has been discussing in private?
That didn’t work out so they ramped up the rent and made a killing that way
Bottom line, if they didn’t think it was wrong they wouldn’t have resigned
under the current terms of the housing act 1988, when a fixed term ends there is no automatic right to renew, end of. don't get me wrong, i think the forthcoming laws surrounding rental properties in january is an improvement, but the initial report of the situation in question isn't accurate.
i have set out my opinion about politicians and property ownership earlier."
There’s no automatic right to make your tenants homeless either
I have been in 3 different tenancy agreements since 1988 and all 3 included the terms to extend. So I can only assume this labour MP didn’t want their tenants to have this right? |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
Let’s assume your version is correct, although you’ve just extracted information from a different source to the OP? Or have you spoken to those involved?
All tenancies are fixed term and nearly always include an option to extend. Did the tenants want to extend? If so, they were technically evicted regardless of if their tenancy came to an end or not.
So they seized the opportunity to liquify their assets, I assume to move the funds offshore and avoid potential new taxes the party has been discussing in private?
That didn’t work out so they ramped up the rent and made a killing that way
Bottom line, if they didn’t think it was wrong they wouldn’t have resigned
under the current terms of the housing act 1988, when a fixed term ends there is no automatic right to renew, end of. don't get me wrong, i think the forthcoming laws surrounding rental properties in january is an improvement, but the initial report of the situation in question isn't accurate.
i have set out my opinion about politicians and property ownership earlier."
You are right Ali didn't break any rules or laws.
She gave 4 months notice to the tenants and also the option of a rolling tenancy until the property was sold. The tenants didn't take up that offer and moved out. The property was reduced by 20k not 20%.
She decided not to sell and listed the house for rent and increased the rent by £700 per month. She also stepped in when the management company demanded money from the tenants for repainting, stopping the payment being taken.
So you are right she did nothing wrong, but the new tenants rights bill that labour are looking to bring in as law would have made what she did illegal. She as the homeless minister, had input into the bill, so it looks like very poor judgement in light of forthcoming changes. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
Let’s assume your version is correct, although you’ve just extracted information from a different source to the OP? Or have you spoken to those involved?
All tenancies are fixed term and nearly always include an option to extend. Did the tenants want to extend? If so, they were technically evicted regardless of if their tenancy came to an end or not.
So they seized the opportunity to liquify their assets, I assume to move the funds offshore and avoid potential new taxes the party has been discussing in private?
That didn’t work out so they ramped up the rent and made a killing that way
Bottom line, if they didn’t think it was wrong they wouldn’t have resigned
under the current terms of the housing act 1988, when a fixed term ends there is no automatic right to renew, end of. don't get me wrong, i think the forthcoming laws surrounding rental properties in january is an improvement, but the initial report of the situation in question isn't accurate.
i have set out my opinion about politicians and property ownership earlier.
There’s no automatic right to make your tenants homeless either
I have been in 3 different tenancy agreements since 1988 and all 3 included the terms to extend. So I can only assume this labour MP didn’t want their tenants to have this right? "
as i previously stated, the fact is that there is no right to extend. you may not like that fact, but fact it is. you're anecdotal evidence has no bearing. if it's a moral arguement you want to make then bring it, but the misinformation surrounding this story is just that.
at a personal level my housing history has included council tenant, private tenant, travelling living in an old bedford army truck, squatting and being a mortgage free home owner so i have good grounding in the way things work and how bad things can get in any given scenario.
i think the optic sucks and her resignation was correct. i also think, as previously said, if you own more property than the house you live in then you shouldn't be allowed to be in politics at all.
but for the purpose of this story and the wild claims that she broke the rules, she quite simply did not. hope that is clear. |
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Great argument
you're the only one arguing and you're doing that for the sake of it, so i can't be bothered unless you want to drop the purile nonsense and have something grown up to say rather than accusing me of being hypocritical when i've been nothing of the sort. "
Replying "yawn" instead of addressing the point I raised... Is that what grown ups do? |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
Let’s assume your version is correct, although you’ve just extracted information from a different source to the OP? Or have you spoken to those involved?
All tenancies are fixed term and nearly always include an option to extend. Did the tenants want to extend? If so, they were technically evicted regardless of if their tenancy came to an end or not.
So they seized the opportunity to liquify their assets, I assume to move the funds offshore and avoid potential new taxes the party has been discussing in private?
That didn’t work out so they ramped up the rent and made a killing that way
Bottom line, if they didn’t think it was wrong they wouldn’t have resigned
under the current terms of the housing act 1988, when a fixed term ends there is no automatic right to renew, end of. don't get me wrong, i think the forthcoming laws surrounding rental properties in january is an improvement, but the initial report of the situation in question isn't accurate.
i have set out my opinion about politicians and property ownership earlier.
There’s no automatic right to make your tenants homeless either
I have been in 3 different tenancy agreements since 1988 and all 3 included the terms to extend. So I can only assume this labour MP didn’t want their tenants to have this right?
as i previously stated, the fact is that there is no right to extend. you may not like that fact, but fact it is. you're anecdotal evidence has no bearing. if it's a moral arguement you want to make then bring it, but the misinformation surrounding this story is just that.
at a personal level my housing history has included council tenant, private tenant, travelling living in an old bedford army truck, squatting and being a mortgage free home owner so i have good grounding in the way things work and how bad things can get in any given scenario.
i think the optic sucks and her resignation was correct. i also think, as previously said, if you own more property than the house you live in then you shouldn't be allowed to be in politics at all.
but for the purpose of this story and the wild claims that she broke the rules, she quite simply did not. hope that is clear. "
How was it you worded it….
" you're anecdotal evidence has no bearing"
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
So why did she resign?
As Reeves herself said “she has done nothing wrong”.
Is the Labour government weak and can’t withstand pressure from the media for a few hours?"
Because labour have been championing improving tenants rights since long before the election. This minister was in the process of implementing a change that would make it illegal to do what she has done. Politically it doesn't look good to argue something is wrong and should be illegal while at the same time doing the very same thing |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
So why did she resign?
As Reeves herself said “she has done nothing wrong”.
Is the Labour government weak and can’t withstand pressure from the media for a few hours?
Because labour have been championing improving tenants rights since long before the election. This minister was in the process of implementing a change that would make it illegal to do what she has done. Politically it doesn't look good to argue something is wrong and should be illegal while at the same time doing the very same thing "
which is why she correctly resigned then hey |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
Let’s assume your version is correct, although you’ve just extracted information from a different source to the OP? Or have you spoken to those involved?
All tenancies are fixed term and nearly always include an option to extend. Did the tenants want to extend? If so, they were technically evicted regardless of if their tenancy came to an end or not.
So they seized the opportunity to liquify their assets, I assume to move the funds offshore and avoid potential new taxes the party has been discussing in private?
That didn’t work out so they ramped up the rent and made a killing that way
Bottom line, if they didn’t think it was wrong they wouldn’t have resigned
under the current terms of the housing act 1988, when a fixed term ends there is no automatic right to renew, end of. don't get me wrong, i think the forthcoming laws surrounding rental properties in january is an improvement, but the initial report of the situation in question isn't accurate.
i have set out my opinion about politicians and property ownership earlier.
There’s no automatic right to make your tenants homeless either
I have been in 3 different tenancy agreements since 1988 and all 3 included the terms to extend. So I can only assume this labour MP didn’t want their tenants to have this right?
as i previously stated, the fact is that there is no right to extend. you may not like that fact, but fact it is. you're anecdotal evidence has no bearing. if it's a moral arguement you want to make then bring it, but the misinformation surrounding this story is just that.
at a personal level my housing history has included council tenant, private tenant, travelling living in an old bedford army truck, squatting and being a mortgage free home owner so i have good grounding in the way things work and how bad things can get in any given scenario.
i think the optic sucks and her resignation was correct. i also think, as previously said, if you own more property than the house you live in then you shouldn't be allowed to be in politics at all.
but for the purpose of this story and the wild claims that she broke the rules, she quite simply did not. hope that is clear.
How was it you worded it….
you're anecdotal evidence has no bearing"
i haven't offered anecdotal evidence to anything. you did. but whatever, it changes nothing. she acted legally, wether she acted morally is a whole other issue. i don't think that mp's of which ever party, or lords for that matter, should be allowed to even be in that position. do you? |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
So why did she resign?
As Reeves herself said “she has done nothing wrong”.
Is the Labour government weak and can’t withstand pressure from the media for a few hours?
Because labour have been championing improving tenants rights since long before the election. This minister was in the process of implementing a change that would make it illegal to do what she has done. Politically it doesn't look good to argue something is wrong and should be illegal while at the same time doing the very same thing
which is why she correctly resigned then hey "
I don't think anyone has disagreed with her resigning but someone asked why. I was giving my opinion on why she resigned. |
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
So why did she resign?
As Reeves herself said “she has done nothing wrong”.
Is the Labour government weak and can’t withstand pressure from the media for a few hours?
Because labour have been championing improving tenants rights since long before the election. This minister was in the process of implementing a change that would make it illegal to do what she has done. Politically it doesn't look good to argue something is wrong and should be illegal while at the same time doing the very same thing
which is why she correctly resigned then hey
I don't think anyone has disagreed with her resigning but someone asked why. I was giving my opinion on why she resigned."
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"The homelessness minister, Rushanara Ali, has resigned after reports emerged that she evicted tenants from her east London property before increasing the rent by almost £700 a month.
What a cunt
so i've delved into the back story. you said the tenants were evicted but it appears that their fixed term tenancy came to an end and they were given notice that it wasn't going to be renewed. the house was then placed on the market, it didn't sell and was reduced in price by 20%. it still didn't sell and so was placed back on the rental market at the market rate. now i have already stated my thoughts on politicians with property, but the facts appear to differ wildly from the faux outrage comments by the rightist hypocrits on this thread.
So why did she resign?
As Reeves herself said “she has done nothing wrong”.
Is the Labour government weak and can’t withstand pressure from the media for a few hours?
Because labour have been championing improving tenants rights since long before the election. This minister was in the process of implementing a change that would make it illegal to do what she has done. Politically it doesn't look good to argue something is wrong and should be illegal while at the same time doing the very same thing
which is why she correctly resigned then hey
I don't think anyone has disagreed with her resigning but someone asked why. I was giving my opinion on why she resigned.
like i said, optics "
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She was hounded out by a left wing witch hunt, she did nothing wrong offered them other options like a rolling tenancy as she wanted to sell, gave them twice as much notice as needed. Eventually couldn’t sell so re rented. It was then set upon by some to take advantage seeing a chance to take a pop at labour. |
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"She was hounded out by a left wing witch hunt, she did nothing wrong offered them other options like a rolling tenancy as she wanted to sell, gave them twice as much notice as needed. Eventually couldn’t sell so re rented. It was then set upon by some to take advantage seeing a chance to take a pop at labour."
Her problem has been that the party she represents has been saying since before the election and ever since that they will improve things for tenants. The actions she took, which you describe, are to be banned, and she is the very person pushing through the new rules. Although she and her party feel such actions are wrong and should be banned, she was perfectly happy to perform them herself, hence the hypocrisy |
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