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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists."
Stupidity is the darkest and most evil of weapons….. especially when it is controlled by a megalomaniac |
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By *otMe66Man 33 weeks ago
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"Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists."
You missed Satan for the full house! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists.
You missed Satan for the full house! "
Fantasy figures are irrelevant |
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I think that it shows a position of great weakness when someone tries to shut down critical commentary.
Cancel culture over identity and gender politics was abysmal from the left and the actions of the Trump administration are equally abysmal from the right. No one comes out of the last decade with a good record here.
I think both sides need to learn the same lesson - you cannot silence people who disagree with you and expect it to end well for you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"I think that it shows a position of great weakness when someone tries to shut down critical commentary.
Cancel culture over identity and gender politics was abysmal from the left and the actions of the Trump administration are equally abysmal from the right. No one comes out of the last decade with a good record here.
I think both sides need to learn the same lesson - you cannot silence people who disagree with you and expect it to end well for you."
It’s nothing to do with political left or right. Trump is an authoritarian dictator acting without impunity in a stupid western democracy.
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"I think that it shows a position of great weakness when someone tries to shut down critical commentary.
Cancel culture over identity and gender politics was abysmal from the left and the actions of the Trump administration are equally abysmal from the right. No one comes out of the last decade with a good record here.
I think both sides need to learn the same lesson - you cannot silence people who disagree with you and expect it to end well for you.
It’s nothing to do with political left or right. Trump is an authoritarian dictator acting without impunity in a stupid western democracy.
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That might well be true. It doesn’t alter the fact that all sides have tried to stop the other side from talking over the past decade. All sides also deny it when you point that out. Everyone is as bad as each other on this point.
I don’t really care for gender, identity or maga politics because they all break the fundamental element of what binds a country together: the ability for someone to say what they really think without fear of retribution.
Until this silencing cycle is broken by all sides we are going to be in a spiral downwards. |
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He just looks sadder by the minute, with his creeping demands to control. If he wasn't the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, it wouldn't be so bad. But it's not good for his people or any of us   |
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By *otMe66Man 33 weeks ago
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"I think that it shows a position of great weakness when someone tries to shut down critical commentary.
Cancel culture over identity and gender politics was abysmal from the left and the actions of the Trump administration are equally abysmal from the right. No one comes out of the last decade with a good record here.
I think both sides need to learn the same lesson - you cannot silence people who disagree with you and expect it to end well for you.
It’s nothing to do with political left or right. Trump is an authoritarian dictator acting without impunity in a stupid western democracy.
That might well be true. It doesn’t alter the fact that all sides have tried to stop the other side from talking over the past decade. All sides also deny it when you point that out. Everyone is as bad as each other on this point.
I don’t really care for gender, identity or maga politics because they all break the fundamental element of what binds a country together: the ability for someone to say what they really think without fear of retribution.
Until this silencing cycle is broken by all sides we are going to be in a spiral downwards."
I think you are a little late to the party |
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By *abioMan 33 weeks ago
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He has been doing it for years… this is only new because it’s television
He has been trying to do this with print media for decades.. why do you think he is quick to sue people….
It’s an intimidation tactic |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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No, Trump isn’t going to shut down the media.
British Leftists need to step out of their self created parochial little bubble.
Of course Leftists have actually been trying to shut down GB News in the UK for years and not a peep from the same people now ranting hysterically about a US corporation firing an unfunny presenter whose viewing figures are a tiny percentage of what they were ten years ago. |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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"Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists."
You missed Starmer |
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By *abioMan 33 weeks ago
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"No, Trump isn’t going to shut down the media.
British Leftists need to step out of their self created parochial little bubble.
Of course Leftists have actually been trying to shut down GB News in the UK for years and not a peep from the same people now ranting hysterically about a US corporation firing an unfunny presenter whose viewing figures are a tiny percentage of what they were ten years ago."
Nice rant….. totally incomparable but you be you buck!
This is the same Trump that literally yesterday suggested that licenses be taken away from station that criticise him and give him bad coverage…
Well... The orange is strong in you buck… and so it seems… amnesia!
OFCOM, like the FCC, have different standards for free to air broadcasting as opposed to satellite broadcasting
The rules that BBC, ITV and channel 4 have to comply to are way stricter than they are for GB News, which actually allows them to do what they do!
Sky news actually, for Rupert Murdoch credit when he set it up, decided to voluntarily comply with the same rules as over the air, so they deal with the same rules regarding impartiality for example
Even though GB news deals with a much more relaxed set of rules, they still have trouble keeping to those, which is why OFCOM still has to reprimand and fine them on a regular basis
Fox News , newsmax, OANN for example have license to do things that ABC, NBC and CBS News can’t
CNN for example like sky news have the license to, but voluntary choose not to and abide by free to air rules |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 33 weeks ago
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"No, Trump isn’t going to shut down the media.
British Leftists need to step out of their self created parochial little bubble.
Of course Leftists have actually been trying to shut down GB News in the UK for years and not a peep from the same people now ranting hysterically about a US corporation firing an unfunny presenter whose viewing figures are a tiny percentage of what they were ten years ago."
Stupidity is the darkest and most evil of weapons….. especially when it is controlled by a megalomaniac |
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And this is exactly why people need to fight against politicians who take away our freedom of speech, irrespective of whether it's left or right wing politicians doing it.
Left wingers celebrated when the speech they don't like is shut down. It was only a matter of time before their own speech is shut down. The right wingers who celebrate this should realise that it won't be long before the pendulum swings the other way. |
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By *abioMan 32 weeks ago
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"When the dems eventually get back in. They are going to utterly destroy all of his legacy and changes  
Gloves will be off 200% going forward seeing how far he has bent rules and forced things "
Which is why, for once, there has been a bit of blowback from moderate republicans (well, those few left!) especially with the comments of the FCC head ..
It’s very much a “be careful of what you wish for “ type situation
If you don’t think Trump is trying to curtail free speech.. look what he is doing to universities, look how his is going after law firms, looks how he is going after museums…
Print media, television.. next will be internet that platforms opposing speech |
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By *otMe66Man 32 weeks ago
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"When the dems eventually get back in. They are going to utterly destroy all of his legacy and changes
Gloves will be off 200% going forward seeing how far he has bent rules and forced things
Which is why, for once, there has been a bit of blowback from moderate republicans (well, those few left!) especially with the comments of the FCC head ..
It’s very much a “be careful of what you wish for “ type situation
If you don’t think Trump is trying to curtail free speech.. look what he is doing to universities, look how his is going after law firms, looks how he is going after museums…
Print media, television.. next will be internet that platforms opposing speech "
His approach to universities is the opposite of shutting down free speech. Many have become far left silos feeding off of each other in their echo chambers. They have destabilised free speech, alternative opinions and fuelled cancel culture. |
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"When the dems eventually get back in. They are going to utterly destroy all of his legacy and changes
Gloves will be off 200% going forward seeing how far he has bent rules and forced things
Which is why, for once, there has been a bit of blowback from moderate republicans (well, those few left!) especially with the comments of the FCC head ..
It’s very much a “be careful of what you wish for “ type situation
If you don’t think Trump is trying to curtail free speech.. look what he is doing to universities, look how his is going after law firms, looks how he is going after museums…
Print media, television.. next will be internet that platforms opposing speech
His approach to universities is the opposite of shutting down free speech. Many have become far left silos feeding off of each other in their echo chambers. They have destabilised free speech, alternative opinions and fuelled cancel culture."
Sophie they should have free speech or not? |
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By *otMe66Man 32 weeks ago
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"When the dems eventually get back in. They are going to utterly destroy all of his legacy and changes
Gloves will be off 200% going forward seeing how far he has bent rules and forced things
Which is why, for once, there has been a bit of blowback from moderate republicans (well, those few left!) especially with the comments of the FCC head ..
It’s very much a “be careful of what you wish for “ type situation
If you don’t think Trump is trying to curtail free speech.. look what he is doing to universities, look how his is going after law firms, looks how he is going after museums…
Print media, television.. next will be internet that platforms opposing speech
His approach to universities is the opposite of shutting down free speech. Many have become far left silos feeding off of each other in their echo chambers. They have destabilised free speech, alternative opinions and fuelled cancel culture.
Sophie they should have free speech or not?"
They should have free speech, yes. However many campuses were closing down alternative opinions, forcing out lecturers who challenged their views and dictating the narratives. |
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By *CExeCouple 32 weeks ago
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The same Trump who was banned from Twitter, Facebook etc? Both sides have engaged in this. Chuck Schumer pushed hard for Tucker Carlson to be kicked out. Both sides need to get a grip and allow open speech.
The oft derided GB News is the only channel I've seen here where you'll get the likes of Aaron Bastani who is hard left debating someone like Matt Goodwin. We need more dialogue, not less. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 32 weeks ago
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"The Kimmel suspension has now been lifted.
The over reaction to "Trump said" really does need to be dialled down."
Every fibre of Trump and his megalomaniac personality is an overreaction to intelligent, balanced, sensible, humanist and caring people all over the globe. He represents a community of stupid and selfish who can not see or choose not to care about the danger he has and is going to cause. |
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By *otMe66Man 32 weeks ago
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"The Kimmel suspension has now been lifted.
The over reaction to "Trump said" really does need to be dialled down.
Every fibre of Trump and his megalomaniac personality is an overreaction to intelligent, balanced, sensible, humanist and caring people all over the globe. He represents a community of stupid and selfish who can not see or choose not to care about the danger he has and is going to cause."
He also triggers the stupid |
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"The Kimmel suspension has now been lifted.
The over reaction to "Trump said" really does need to be dialled down.
Every fibre of Trump and his megalomaniac personality is an overreaction to intelligent, balanced, sensible, humanist and caring people all over the globe. He represents a community of stupid and selfish who can not see or choose not to care about the danger he has and is going to cause.
He also triggers the stupid"
It sounds like you are saying that anyone who disputes anything Trump says is stupid. I'm sure that's not your intention. |
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By *otMe66Man 32 weeks ago
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"The Kimmel suspension has now been lifted.
The over reaction to "Trump said" really does need to be dialled down.
Every fibre of Trump and his megalomaniac personality is an overreaction to intelligent, balanced, sensible, humanist and caring people all over the globe. He represents a community of stupid and selfish who can not see or choose not to care about the danger he has and is going to cause.
He also triggers the stupid
It sounds like you are saying that anyone who disputes anything Trump says is stupid. I'm sure that's not your intention. "
If you want me to be more specific… I’m talking about people who react to media spin and Trump’s dog whistles with emotional outbursts, based on hearsay or his ramblings.
It needs dialling down. |
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"The Kimmel suspension has now been lifted.
The over reaction to "Trump said" really does need to be dialled down.
Every fibre of Trump and his megalomaniac personality is an overreaction to intelligent, balanced, sensible, humanist and caring people all over the globe. He represents a community of stupid and selfish who can not see or choose not to care about the danger he has and is going to cause.
He also triggers the stupid
It sounds like you are saying that anyone who disputes anything Trump says is stupid. I'm sure that's not your intention.
If you want me to be more specific… I’m talking about people who react to media spin and Trump’s dog whistles with emotional outbursts, based on hearsay or his ramblings.
It needs dialling down."
Trumps "dog whistles" - like he's subtle in his views or how he expresses them?
What I will agree with, is that both sides need to moderate language and rhetoric, whether in the US or UK.
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"Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists."
or telling you how much money you can take out you bank each week
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By (user no longer on site) 32 weeks ago
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"I mean if I was in Trump's position, all reality TV would be binned off.
All of the love island lot would be on devil's Island by now 😄
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Nah he loves reality TV remember he hosted a show plus he knows the intelligence level of those that love it are the people he wants to vote for him. |
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"When the dems eventually get back in. They are going to utterly destroy all of his legacy and changes
Gloves will be off 200% going forward seeing how far he has bent rules and forced things "
what makes you think the dems will get back in? They spent two years telling anyone who would listen that there wouldn't be anymore elections if trump won,if they were telling the truth then they won't have a chance of being elected again or were they lying about there being no more elections? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 32 weeks ago
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Trump has just announced on a world stage what ‘He’ thinks about the UN, Europe and Climate Change. None of what he said was positive or forward thinking, quite the opposite. As someone else said in the thread earlier he appeals to the stupid because it’s a vote for his ego not for the benefit of a local or global population. A megalomaniac on steroids. |
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"Trump has just announced on a world stage what ‘He’ thinks about the UN, Europe and Climate Change. None of what he said was positive or forward thinking, quite the opposite. As someone else said in the thread earlier he appeals to the stupid because it’s a vote for his ego not for the benefit of a local or global population. A megalomaniac on steroids."
Was that Trump?
I thought it was Grandpa Simpson.
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"Trump has just announced on a world stage what ‘He’ thinks about the UN, Europe and Climate Change. None of what he said was positive or forward thinking, quite the opposite. As someone else said in the thread earlier he appeals to the stupid because it’s a vote for his ego not for the benefit of a local or global population. A megalomaniac on steroids.
Was that Trump?
I thought it was Grandpa Simpson.
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They said Biden was a boy of a rambling old duffer..
Which to be fair he did do but the ginger man child..
The 'poor beautiful babies with up to 80 injections..'
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"The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way."
Using force? Did Trump send in the army to barricade Disney's headquarters? Did he send Knuckles and his mates to rough up Disney's CEO? |
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"The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way.
Using force? Did Trump send in the army to barricade Disney's headquarters? Did he send Knuckles and his mates to rough up Disney's CEO? "
He sent US Marines to conduct ‘law enforcement’. Likewise National Guard units who could only find gardening chores to do. Blatant misuse of the military to intimidate the general population. Acts of a wannabe dictator.. |
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"The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way."
"Using force? Did Trump send in the army to barricade Disney's headquarters? Did he send Knuckles and his mates to rough up Disney's CEO?"
"He sent US Marines to conduct ‘law enforcement’. Likewise National Guard units who could only find gardening chores to do. Blatant misuse of the military to intimidate the general population. Acts of a wannabe dictator."
So when you said "The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way", you were talking about something that hasn't been discussed in this thread.
I notice that you've downgraded him from "dictator" to "wannabe", and you've switched from "using force" to "intimating". Nice pivot. |
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"The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way.
Using force? Did Trump send in the army to barricade Disney's headquarters? Did he send Knuckles and his mates to rough up Disney's CEO?
He sent US Marines to conduct ‘law enforcement’. Likewise National Guard units who could only find gardening chores to do. Blatant misuse of the military to intimidate the general population. Acts of a wannabe dictator.
So when you said "The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way", you were talking about something that hasn't been discussed in this thread.
I notice that you've downgraded him from "dictator" to "wannabe", and you've switched from "using force" to "intimating". Nice pivot. "
He doesn’t have the intelligence to be an efficient dictator, only the malice. As for using force you clearly haven’t been following the activities of his goons in ICE.
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"The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way."
"Using force? Did Trump send in the army to barricade Disney's headquarters? Did he send Knuckles and his mates to rough up Disney's CEO?"
"He sent US Marines to conduct ‘law enforcement’. Likewise National Guard units who could only find gardening chores to do. Blatant misuse of the military to intimidate the general population. Acts of a wannabe dictator."
"So when you said "The actions of a dictator who believes only in using force to get his way", you were talking about something that hasn't been discussed in this thread.
I notice that you've downgraded him from "dictator" to "wannabe", and you've switched from "using force" to "intimating". Nice pivot."
"He doesn’t have the intelligence to be an efficient dictator, only the malice. As for using force you clearly haven’t been following the activities of his goons in ICE."
So now you've abandoned the claim that the Marines or the National Guard have used force (because they've mostly just been standing there when they're not doing some light gardening), and you've switched to ICE. What force do you think ICE have been using to enforce Trumps will? |
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By *rFilthMan 32 weeks ago
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"Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists."
While I find Trump a massive hypocrite on this!
We can’t say much when we’ve had ofcom doing the very same thing over here for decades! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 31 weeks ago
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"Talk about the worst of humanity not learning lessons from the past…… Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Putin, Jong Un all did/do the same. Pitiful from the US evangelists.
While I find Trump a massive hypocrite on this!
We can’t say much when we’ve had ofcom doing the very same thing over here for decades!"
Bizarre statement about Ofcom ….. has anyone in that organisation been identified as an insecure, authoritarian, dysfunctional dictator recently???
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