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do you hate your political opponents?
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By (user no longer on site) OP 30 weeks ago
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i see a lot of hatred for ‘libtards’ (people on the left) or ‘nazi scum’ (people on the right) and i don’t think it’s right
even if someone holds a view that we think leads to violence, how is making them feel like shit going to get them onto our side? it just divides us further and pushes them further to the left or right… |
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No I don’t care enough to they have their views which they are perfectly entitled too and I have mine
As someone who has been insulted personally several times on here for voicing my disdain for keir Starmer (a thought that a large portion of the population seems to share) I never understood the reasoning behind it, the same people slate Nigel farrage at every opportunity and I see the post, sometimes even laugh at the insults used and move on I feel no need to attack that person for their views |
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By (user no longer on site) 30 weeks ago
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?I think there's a huge difference between calling someone a "libtard" and a "Nazi."
?Goals and Ideology: The far right, in its most extreme form, is an ideology based on eliminating people who don't fit into its idea of a "pure" society. This is a belief system that has led to violence and genocide throughout history. The far left, on the other hand, is an ideology based on helping people through things like free housing and healthcare. One is about tearing people down, the other is about building them up.
?The Meaning of the Insult: When the far right uses a term like "libtard," it's meant to be a broad, generic insult that dismisses you as unintelligent. But when people call the far right "Nazis," they are making a specific, historical comparison. They are saying that the rhetoric and beliefs of this group are directly tied to an ideology that led to mass murder. It's a statement of moral consequence, not just an empty insult.
?The names themselves show that the two sides are not morally equivalent. |
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"?I think there's a huge difference between calling someone a "libtard" and a "Nazi."
?Goals and Ideology: The far right, in its most extreme form, is an ideology based on eliminating people who don't fit into its idea of a "pure" society. This is a belief system that has led to violence and genocide throughout history. The far left, on the other hand, is an ideology based on helping people through things like free housing and healthcare. One is about tearing people down, the other is about building them up.
?The Meaning of the Insult: When the far right uses a term like "libtard," it's meant to be a broad, generic insult that dismisses you as unintelligent. But when people call the far right "Nazis," they are making a specific, historical comparison. They are saying that the rhetoric and beliefs of this group are directly tied to an ideology that led to mass murder. It's a statement of moral consequence, not just an empty insult.
?The names themselves show that the two sides are not morally equivalent."
I think you are wrong, well I mean you are right in your assessment of a Nazi, but I mean you are wrong to think that people using that term on here generally associate people with that, they just use it as an insulting way to refer to anyone right wing most of the time.
That’s the problem with using these terms, Nazi, facist, communist etc etc, most people don’t actually know the definition or understand what it entails, it’s just a go too insult. |
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By *erces LetiferMan 30 weeks ago
Somewhere off the edge of the map... 'ere there be monsters |
"?I think there's a huge difference between calling someone a "libtard" and a "Nazi."
?Goals and Ideology: The far right, in its most extreme form, is an ideology based on eliminating people who don't fit into its idea of a "pure" society. This is a belief system that has led to violence and genocide throughout history. The far left, on the other hand, is an ideology based on helping people through things like free housing and healthcare. One is about tearing people down, the other is about building them up.
?The Meaning of the Insult: When the far right uses a term like "libtard," it's meant to be a broad, generic insult that dismisses you as unintelligent. But when people call the far right "Nazis," they are making a specific, historical comparison. They are saying that the rhetoric and beliefs of this group are directly tied to an ideology that led to mass murder. It's a statement of moral consequence, not just an empty insult.
?The names themselves show that the two sides are not morally equivalent."
Wow…
Who wants to tell them?? |
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By (user no longer on site) 30 weeks ago
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"?I think there's a huge difference between calling someone a "libtard" and a "Nazi."
?Goals and Ideology: The far right, in its most extreme form, is an ideology based on eliminating people who don't fit into its idea of a "pure" society. This is a belief system that has led to violence and genocide throughout history. The far left, on the other hand, is an ideology based on helping people through things like free housing and healthcare. One is about tearing people down, the other is about building them up.
?The Meaning of the Insult: When the far right uses a term like "libtard," it's meant to be a broad, generic insult that dismisses you as unintelligent. But when people call the far right "Nazis," they are making a specific, historical comparison. They are saying that the rhetoric and beliefs of this group are directly tied to an ideology that led to mass murder. It's a statement of moral consequence, not just an empty insult.
?The names themselves show that the two sides are not morally equivalent."
I think if you think the “far left” are all about providing free housing you need to go back to school and do some history classes again. I don’t recall Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin being best remembered for housing policy and healthcare.
The problem is that the Left call pretty much everyone “Nazi” who disagrees with them so it has become totally meaningless.
Ironically the people in Britain today who I would associate most closely with Nazism and “Jew hatred” of course are elements in the Labour Party, other Far Left rabble, and those who spend their weekends calling for the destruction of the Jewish state.
Libtards indeed. |
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People say the far left & far right are two cheeks of the same arse.
A cliche, but also true. Both flavours have led to authoritarian rule, lots of deaths of political opponents & restrictions on freedoms.
At the moment though, authoritarianism seems to be encroaching from the right. And before anybody calls Starmer left wing, do me a favour. A couple of token left leaning economic policies does not a left wing Labour Party make. ID cards to ‘solve’ illegal immigration. Curbs on the right to protest (as a result of pro Palestinian marches) which is why plenty on The Left are annoyed with him.
Do I hate the right wing? No, but I certainly dislike them. |
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I think if you hate someone then that probably tells you more about yourself than it does about them.
For me the deeper issue is this idea that one side has all the answers. They don’t. No one does. Every side has valid points and every side makes some bad mistakes. I don’t get how you can learn from the valid points if all you see is hatred. |
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No, we just consider some of them either stupid, ignorant, or sheltered in some way. That's not how we'd view everyone. It really does depend on the argument put forward. Sadly most people, as this forum shows, only look at things from viewpoints as directed by mass media. |
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Back in the day when I was more politically active (Conservative) we had quite a good relationship with most of our Labour opponents. We'd often have a beer together in the bar after a count.
There was the occasional idiot on both sides but generally we rubbed along together quite well.
However that was way back in the 1980's and I think politics is a lot more polarised these days and open hatred, especially from the left, seems to be much more common.
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No I don't hate them but I have no time for people who bring their politics into every conversation and get offended if you disagree.
We have recently lost friends because we don't agree politically and one family member has distanced themselves. In both instances it's because we disagreed politely with their views.🤷♀️
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