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So, we all now need to prove we’re over 18 to access adult content, which on the face of it is a good thing. And it seems Starmer now wants to ban social media usage for those under 16.
But how will this be implemented and how will it be policed?
Will digital ID be needed to access social media? This is already the case for company directors, they need digital ID to access companies house, a legal requirement for at least one director of every ltd company.
Will a vpn get around the ban and if so, will vpn’s be banned for under 16s? And if so, how will they police that?
Police can’t search someone’s phone during a stop and search unless they use section 43 of the terrorism act. They can only use section 43 if they have reasonable grounds to believe someone is a terrorist and they have to state those grounds prior to the search, otherwise the search is illegal and anything found can’t be used as evidence. So pretty pointless.
So is there any point in using parliamentary time to enact a law that can’t be policed? Or is this just a backdoor route to digital ID? |
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The Internet has been broke for years
I'm all for it. It's fairly clear the social media firms aren't doing a great job Moderating their content and they have been asked many times
Question is how is this enforced |
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"Ban phones in school. Absolutely no need for them. If you need to contact your child, you contact your school via phone/email."
And on the way home? Outside of school?
I think many schools ban phone usage which I agree with, but how does a kid ask permission to go to a mates house for an hour if they don’t have a phone? Or if school transport breaks down? There’s a host of reasons why a teenager needs a phone at the end of the school day.
But none of this has anything to do with the topic of the thread 😊 |
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"Ban phones in school. Absolutely no need for them. If you need to contact your child, you contact your school via phone/email.
And on the way home? Outside of school?
I think many schools ban phone usage which I agree with, but how does a kid ask permission to go to a mates house for an hour if they don’t have a phone? Or if school transport breaks down? There’s a host of reasons why a teenager needs a phone at the end of the school day.
But none of this has anything to do with the topic of the thread 😊"
How did kids get on before mobile phones?
I used to walk home with my mates. Sometimes we went to the parks, sometimes round to someone’s house (if their parents agreed to let us in), sometimes we just we went straight home.
Some child psychologists are suggesting that we (parents) are placing our anxieties onto children and depriving them of growing up properly, because we insist on being able to track and locate our kids at any one time.
And that’s before you get onto the use of social media via mobile phones. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 11 weeks ago
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"Ban phones in school. Absolutely no need for them. If you need to contact your child, you contact your school via phone/email.
And on the way home? Outside of school?
I think many schools ban phone usage which I agree with, but how does a kid ask permission to go to a mates house for an hour if they don’t have a phone? Or if school transport breaks down? There’s a host of reasons why a teenager needs a phone at the end of the school day.
But none of this has anything to do with the topic of the thread 😊
How did kids get on before mobile phones?
I used to walk home with my mates. Sometimes we went to the parks, sometimes round to someone’s house (if their parents agreed to let us in), sometimes we just we went straight home.
Some child psychologists are suggesting that we (parents) are placing our anxieties onto children and depriving them of growing up properly, because we insist on being able to track and locate our kids at any one time.
And that’s before you get onto the use of social media via mobile phones."
The same way they got on before antibiotics |
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"Ban phones in school. Absolutely no need for them. If you need to contact your child, you contact your school via phone/email.
And on the way home? Outside of school?
I think many schools ban phone usage which I agree with, but how does a kid ask permission to go to a mates house for an hour if they don’t have a phone? Or if school transport breaks down? There’s a host of reasons why a teenager needs a phone at the end of the school day.
But none of this has anything to do with the topic of the thread 😊
How did kids get on before mobile phones?
I used to walk home with my mates. Sometimes we went to the parks, sometimes round to someone’s house (if their parents agreed to let us in), sometimes we just we went straight home.
Some child psychologists are suggesting that we (parents) are placing our anxieties onto children and depriving them of growing up properly, because we insist on being able to track and locate our kids at any one time.
And that’s before you get onto the use of social media via mobile phones.
The same way they got on before antibiotics "
I’m not sure what Antibiotics has to do with banning phones? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 11 weeks ago
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"Ban phones in school. Absolutely no need for them. If you need to contact your child, you contact your school via phone/email.
And on the way home? Outside of school?
I think many schools ban phone usage which I agree with, but how does a kid ask permission to go to a mates house for an hour if they don’t have a phone? Or if school transport breaks down? There’s a host of reasons why a teenager needs a phone at the end of the school day.
But none of this has anything to do with the topic of the thread 😊
How did kids get on before mobile phones?
I used to walk home with my mates. Sometimes we went to the parks, sometimes round to someone’s house (if their parents agreed to let us in), sometimes we just we went straight home.
Some child psychologists are suggesting that we (parents) are placing our anxieties onto children and depriving them of growing up properly, because we insist on being able to track and locate our kids at any one time.
And that’s before you get onto the use of social media via mobile phones.
The same way they got on before antibiotics
I’m not sure what Antibiotics has to do with banning phones?"
I don’t know how what people did prior to mobile phones has to do with social media usage for under 16s and how it could be policed!
Banning mobile phones in schools has nothing to do with it either, unless it’s being suggested that kids only use their phone in school? |
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I don't know how this would be enforceable without considerable overreach and surveillance.
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A blanket ban on all VPN use for all minors could be challenged at the ECHR (Article 8) as disproportionate if:
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It blocks legitimate privacy uses (e.g., protecting data on public Wi-Fi)
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It interferes with freedom of expression
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It is overly broad |
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"Ban phones in school. Absolutely no need for them. If you need to contact your child, you contact your school via phone/email."
A good middle ground would be to ban smartphones. A phone that can make calls and message in case they want to reach their parents should be good enough. Instead the government is trying to pass idiotic laws clearly written by bureaucrats who have no understanding of tech. |
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