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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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Some good news from Florida where the Secret Service prevented yet another attempt on President Trump's life, the 4th in the last 18 months.
It is sad that the vitriol directed towards a democratically elected President has led once again to irrational violence. |
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There was no attempt. This is distraction from the abject horrors that are being drip fed to the World in the Epstein files.
Anyone remember Big Train? The office manager? That’s Trump. Complete narcissist.
They’re getting close: Venezuela. They’re getting close: Iran
They’re getting close: immigrants
They’re getting close: tariffs
They’re getting close: board of peace (the most ironic and oxymoronic title ever and really nothing but a massive real estate project)
They will get him though. Legally.
People are angry. The World is angry. The elite are running out of places to hide their despicable behaviours and practices.
Bring it, the fuck, on. Vive la rèsistance ! |
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"Need to be bit sceptical of early reports but seems that the gunman Austin Tucker was obsessed with conspiracy theories around the Epstein files."
Conspiracy? Are you actually high or deliberately trolling? |
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"There was no attempt. This is distraction from the abject horrors that are being drip fed to the World in the Epstein files.
Anyone remember Big Train? The office manager? That’s Trump. Complete narcissist.
They’re getting close: Venezuela. They’re getting close: Iran
They’re getting close: immigrants
They’re getting close: tariffs
They’re getting close: board of peace (the most ironic and oxymoronic title ever and really nothing but a massive real estate project)
They will get him though. Legally.
People are angry. The World is angry. The elite are running out of places to hide their despicable behaviours and practices.
Bring it, the fuck, on. Vive la rèsistance !"
When I saw the words “abstract horrors” I thought you were going to be talking about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed by their own government in Iran, or the Christian slaughter in Nigeria, or the countless thousands of under aged girls systematically r@ped and trafficked around this country and smuggled abroad to Pakistan to marry old men and be their sl@ves.
But I’m sooooo glad it was this bunch of emails instead. Nothing more important in this world than emails. |
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"There was no attempt. This is distraction from the abject horrors that are being drip fed to the World in the Epstein files.
Anyone remember Big Train? The office manager? That’s Trump. Complete narcissist.
They’re getting close: Venezuela. They’re getting close: Iran
They’re getting close: immigrants
They’re getting close: tariffs
They’re getting close: board of peace (the most ironic and oxymoronic title ever and really nothing but a massive real estate project)
They will get him though. Legally.
People are angry. The World is angry. The elite are running out of places to hide their despicable behaviours and practices.
Bring it, the fuck, on. Vive la rèsistance !
When I saw the words “abstract horrors” I thought you were going to be talking about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed by their own government in Iran, or the Christian slaughter in Nigeria, or the countless thousands of under aged girls systematically r@ped and trafficked around this country and smuggled abroad to Pakistan to marry old men and be their sl@ves.
But I’m sooooo glad it was this bunch of emails instead. Nothing more important in this world than emails. "
The points you make are valid. Children have also been trafficked by wealthy *untouchable white elites, abused, assaulted, r*ped - for entertainment. You don’t see anything concerning about that?
*for now |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"There was no attempt. This is distraction from the abject horrors that are being drip fed to the World in the Epstein files.
Anyone remember Big Train? The office manager? That’s Trump. Complete narcissist.
They’re getting close: Venezuela. They’re getting close: Iran
They’re getting close: immigrants
They’re getting close: tariffs
They’re getting close: board of peace (the most ironic and oxymoronic title ever and really nothing but a massive real estate project)
They will get him though. Legally.
People are angry. The World is angry. The elite are running out of places to hide their despicable behaviours and practices.
Bring it, the fuck, on. Vive la rèsistance !
When I saw the words “abstract horrors” I thought you were going to be talking about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed by their own government in Iran, or the Christian slaughter in Nigeria, or the countless thousands of under aged girls systematically r@ped and trafficked around this country and smuggled abroad to Pakistan to marry old men and be their sl@ves.
But I’m sooooo glad it was this bunch of emails instead. Nothing more important in this world than emails.
The points you make are valid. Children have also been trafficked by wealthy *untouchable white elites, abused, assaulted, r*ped - for entertainment. You don’t see anything concerning about that?
*for now"
It is concerning that people promote baseless conspiracy theories about Trump and Epstein which apparently lead to an attempted assassination. Its been reported that the gunman raised his weapon to shoot officers so he could have easily killed people with no connection to Trump, and others have already been killed in other attempts on Trump's life. |
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By *winga2Man 10 weeks ago
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"There was no attempt. This is distraction from the abject horrors that are being drip fed to the World in the Epstein files.
Anyone remember Big Train? The office manager? That’s Trump. Complete narcissist.
They’re getting close: Venezuela. They’re getting close: Iran
They’re getting close: immigrants
They’re getting close: tariffs
They’re getting close: board of peace (the most ironic and oxymoronic title ever and really nothing but a massive real estate project)
They will get him though. Legally.
People are angry. The World is angry. The elite are running out of places to hide their despicable behaviours and practices.
Bring it, the fuck, on. Vive la rèsistance !
When I saw the words “abstract horrors” I thought you were going to be talking about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed by their own government in Iran, or the Christian slaughter in Nigeria, or the countless thousands of under aged girls systematically r@ped and trafficked around this country and smuggled abroad to Pakistan to marry old men and be their sl@ves.
But I’m sooooo glad it was this bunch of emails instead. Nothing more important in this world than emails.
The points you make are valid. Children have also been trafficked by wealthy *untouchable white elites, abused, assaulted, r*ped - for entertainment. You don’t see anything concerning about that?
*for now
It is concerning that people promote baseless conspiracy theories about Trump and Epstein which apparently lead to an attempted assassination. Its been reported that the gunman raised his weapon to shoot officers so he could have easily killed people with no connection to Trump, and others have already been killed in other attempts on Trump's life."
Sorry pressed enter too soon
Baseless ?
Seriously ?
What about Andrew ? What has he been found guilty of exactly ?
It seems you are more than a little selective in your critical analysis in your relentless support of the one that can do no wrong |
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By (user no longer on site) 10 weeks ago
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"There was no attempt. This is distraction from the abject horrors that are being drip fed to the World in the Epstein files.
Anyone remember Big Train? The office manager? That’s Trump. Complete narcissist.
They’re getting close: Venezuela. They’re getting close: Iran
They’re getting close: immigrants
They’re getting close: tariffs
They’re getting close: board of peace (the most ironic and oxymoronic title ever and really nothing but a massive real estate project)
They will get him though. Legally.
People are angry. The World is angry. The elite are running out of places to hide their despicable behaviours and practices.
Bring it, the fuck, on. Vive la rèsistance !
When I saw the words “abstract horrors” I thought you were going to be talking about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed by their own government in Iran, or the Christian slaughter in Nigeria, or the countless thousands of under aged girls systematically r@ped and trafficked around this country and smuggled abroad to Pakistan to marry old men and be their sl@ves.
But I’m sooooo glad it was this bunch of emails instead. Nothing more important in this world than emails.
The points you make are valid. Children have also been trafficked by wealthy *untouchable white elites, abused, assaulted, r*ped - for entertainment. You don’t see anything concerning about that?
*for now"
I’d say it’s almost the only thing being discussed in main stream media at the moment. The points I mentioned involve millions of people but get next to no media attention. In fact the BBC have gone to great lengths to pretend non of it is happening.
How many girls were involved in the Epstien files? Probably a tiny percentage of those from one town in England, Iran or Nigeria. And it’s happened and still happening in pretty much every town and city in the UK. I used to live in Telford. The Muslim community there is tiny.
The ethnicity of the perps definitely affects how much a problem is publicised and tackled.
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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Baseless ?
Seriously ?
What about Andrew ? What has he been found guilty of exactly ?
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There is no evidence that Trump had any contact with Epstein after his initial conviction, unlike Andrew and Mandelson.
There is plenty of evidence that he cut off contact completely with Epstein and actively disliked him.
Last week it was reported on BBC website that a senior Florida police officer had spoken unofficially to Trump in 2006 who'd warned him about Epstein and Maxwell.
The much mentioned 'secret' Epstein files were under control of the Democrats for four years yet they failed to release any evidence linking Trump with Epstein's crimes.
Trump has however released millions of documents relating to Epstein.
Epstein was a Democrat supporter and Donor who generally cultivated friendship with powerful figures on the liberal left (Trump was largely apolitical when they knew each other)
The late Virginia Giufree who accused Andrew explicitly said that she had no knowledge of Trump being involved in any of Epstein's crimes.
Trump has been linked with Epstein's crimes multiple times on this Forum without a shred of evidence I'm aware of. Therefore it is fair imo to label these views as conspiracy theories, which as we see can have unintended but very serious consequences. |
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By *winga2Man 10 weeks ago
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Baseless ?
Seriously ?
What about Andrew ? What has he been found guilty of exactly ?
There is no evidence that Trump had any contact with Epstein after his initial conviction, unlike Andrew and Mandelson.
There is plenty of evidence that he cut off contact completely with Epstein and actively disliked him.
Last week it was reported on BBC website that a senior Florida police officer had spoken unofficially to Trump in 2006 who'd warned him about Epstein and Maxwell.
The much mentioned 'secret' Epstein files were under control of the Democrats for four years yet they failed to release any evidence linking Trump with Epstein's crimes.
Trump has however released millions of documents relating to Epstein.
Epstein was a Democrat supporter and Donor who generally cultivated friendship with powerful figures on the liberal left (Trump was largely apolitical when they knew each other)
The late Virginia Giufree who accused Andrew explicitly said that she had no knowledge of Trump being involved in any of Epstein's crimes.
Trump has been linked with Epstein's crimes multiple times on this Forum without a shred of evidence I'm aware of. Therefore it is fair imo to label these views as conspiracy theories, which as we see can have unintended but very serious consequences."
There have been plenty of Investigations into Andrew and others
We are just expected to take trump's word for it, and accept that during the months of preparation nothing was filtered out of the Epstein files.
Your very "trusting" of someone previously found guilty of sexual abuse and fraud and several of his companies have files for bankruptcy, very trusting indeed |
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Perhaps we should be concerned about the assassination of the alleged drug dealers in international waters and wether it was in fact justified.
Perhaps we should be concerned about murders carried out by his ICE men, should they have allowed a potential situation to develop that ended in death ?
Trump doesn't need help, he painted the target on his own back. |
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By (user no longer on site) 10 weeks ago
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Setup up by him, like when his ear was grazed. Effective way to gain sympothy though. They love prays and thoughts for shootings. Ignore he is a pedi suspect and us robbing the world with financial transactions from abuse of power. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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Baseless ?
Seriously ?
What about Andrew ? What has he been found guilty of exactly ?
There is no evidence that Trump had any contact with Epstein after his initial conviction, unlike Andrew and Mandelson.
There is plenty of evidence that he cut off contact completely with Epstein and actively disliked him.
Last week it was reported on BBC website that a senior Florida police officer had spoken unofficially to Trump in 2006 who'd warned him about Epstein and Maxwell.
The much mentioned 'secret' Epstein files were under control of the Democrats for four years yet they failed to release any evidence linking Trump with Epstein's crimes.
Trump has however released millions of documents relating to Epstein.
Epstein was a Democrat supporter and Donor who generally cultivated friendship with powerful figures on the liberal left (Trump was largely apolitical when they knew each other)
The late Virginia Giufree who accused Andrew explicitly said that she had no knowledge of Trump being involved in any of Epstein's crimes.
Trump has been linked with Epstein's crimes multiple times on this Forum without a shred of evidence I'm aware of. Therefore it is fair imo to label these views as conspiracy theories, which as we see can have unintended but very serious consequences.
There have been plenty of Investigations into Andrew and others
We are just expected to take trump's word for it, and accept that during the months of preparation nothing was filtered out of the Epstein files.
Your very "trusting" of someone previously found guilty of sexual abuse and fraud and several of his companies have files for bankruptcy, very trusting indeed"
I'm not aware that Trump has any convictions for abuse so you will have to provide more information on that.
He had convictions in New York for financial reporting which resulted in an unconditional discharge but again, you will have to help me understand the link with Epstein.
And again you ignore the fact that the Democrats had four years in power to release all the documents which you claim, with no evidence, incriminated Trump.
Trust has nothing to do with it; this is about evidence and facts v wild speculation and conspiracy theories by people who simply dislike Trump's politics. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"Just google Donald Trump vs E Jean Carroll, he was found guilty by a jury in may 2023"
Thank you. That was of course a civil case and not a criminal conviction. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"Setup up by him, like when his ear was grazed. Effective way to gain sympothy though. They love prays and thoughts for shootings. Ignore he is a pedi suspect and us robbing the world with financial transactions from abuse of power. "
Do you have any evidence that the previous attempts on Trump's life were orchestrated by him ? I understood in all cases the police identified the suspects who were killed or convicted. |
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By *winga2Man 10 weeks ago
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"Setup up by him, like when his ear was grazed. Effective way to gain sympothy though. They love prays and thoughts for shootings. Ignore he is a pedi suspect and us robbing the world with financial transactions from abuse of power.
Do you have any evidence that the previous attempts on Trump's life were orchestrated by him ? I understood in all cases the police identified the suspects who were killed or convicted."
Do earlobes heal ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"Setup up by him, like when his ear was grazed. Effective way to gain sympothy though. They love prays and thoughts for shootings. Ignore he is a pedi suspect and us robbing the world with financial transactions from abuse of power.
Do you have any evidence that the previous attempts on Trump's life were orchestrated by him ? I understood in all cases the police identified the suspects who were killed or convicted.
Do earlobes heal ?"
I fear you are rather reinforcing my arguments instead of rebutting them ! |
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This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement. "
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome. |
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement.
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome."
Where’s the evidence this was an assassination attempt? Both the secret service and the FBI have stated the potential motive for him being there is still under investigation. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement.
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome.
Where’s the evidence this was an assassination attempt? Both the secret service and the FBI have stated the potential motive for him being there is still under investigation. "
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement.
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome.
Where’s the evidence this was an assassination attempt? Both the secret service and the FBI have stated the potential motive for him being there is still under investigation.
OK 👍 "
No I’m interested. As above you were very clear about the difference between a criminal case and a civil one, so facts obviously matter greatly to you based on that. Yet no one has officially stated this was an assignation attempt, and here you are claiming it was foiled. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"He was not even there..
The people killed apparently had been reported missing by the family two days before because they had a lot of mental health issues…."
That seems to be the case. It is likely that once again a vulnerable person has been radicalised by online conspiracy theories. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement.
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome.
Where’s the evidence this was an assassination attempt? Both the secret service and the FBI have stated the potential motive for him being there is still under investigation.
OK 👍
No I’m interested. As above you were very clear about the difference between a criminal case and a civil one, so facts obviously matter greatly to you based on that. Yet no one has officially stated this was an assignation attempt, and here you are claiming it was foiled. "
As the gunman has been killed there will obviously be no charges and it may well be impossible to determine his exact motives, but if someone was discovered in the grounds of our houses with a loaded shotgun I doubt if either of us would believe they were there to read the water meter. |
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By *abioMan 10 weeks ago
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"He was not even there..
Should Trump make his exact location public at all times to assist would be assasins ? "
Actually… the president has a public diary so would actually know where he would have been… so you would have known if he was at the white house or at mar a lago…..
Thanks for playing though “p”….. |
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement.
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome.
Where’s the evidence this was an assassination attempt? Both the secret service and the FBI have stated the potential motive for him being there is still under investigation.
OK 👍
No I’m interested. As above you were very clear about the difference between a criminal case and a civil one, so facts obviously matter greatly to you based on that. Yet no one has officially stated this was an assignation attempt, and here you are claiming it was foiled.
As the gunman has been killed there will obviously be no charges and it may well be impossible to determine his exact motives, but if someone was discovered in the grounds of our houses with a loaded shotgun I doubt if either of us would believe they were there to read the water meter."
Exactly he had a 12 gauge, hardly a decent weapon for assassination, it would require a close up hit, getting past a vast amount of security. And having a can of fuel with him too it frankly sounds more like an arson attempt probably a form of protest. Nothing here is shouting assassination attempt. |
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"Do earlobes heal ?"
Yes. Earlobes are one of the bits of a human that never stop growing, so they can be expected to heal well.
But you keep posting this. Are you hinting at some sort of conspiracy theory that the Trump shooting was all contrived and he was never actually hit? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement.
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome.
Where’s the evidence this was an assassination attempt? Both the secret service and the FBI have stated the potential motive for him being there is still under investigation.
OK 👍
No I’m interested. As above you were very clear about the difference between a criminal case and a civil one, so facts obviously matter greatly to you based on that. Yet no one has officially stated this was an assignation attempt, and here you are claiming it was foiled.
As the gunman has been killed there will obviously be no charges and it may well be impossible to determine his exact motives, but if someone was discovered in the grounds of our houses with a loaded shotgun I doubt if either of us would believe they were there to read the water meter.
Exactly he had a 12 gauge, hardly a decent weapon for assassination, it would require a close up hit, getting past a vast amount of security. And having a can of fuel with him too it frankly sounds more like an arson attempt probably a form of protest. Nothing here is shouting assassination attempt."
I cannot agree with that assessment. |
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Literally nothing known so far indicates an assassination attempt, until more is known any such leaps into the hyperbolic unknown are simply gross assumptions..
Not for the first time and not only in relation to the orange man child.. |
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"This whole thread seems to be trump derangement syndrome at its finest, the idea that he’s not a complete child that stamps his feet when people don’t believe his lies and is a danger to the world as a whole can only be explained by some form of derangement.
No the thread is about the attempted assassination of a US President, a democratically elected leader. Any opinions on the actual subject are still welcome.
Where’s the evidence this was an assassination attempt? Both the secret service and the FBI have stated the potential motive for him being there is still under investigation.
OK 👍
No I’m interested. As above you were very clear about the difference between a criminal case and a civil one, so facts obviously matter greatly to you based on that. Yet no one has officially stated this was an assignation attempt, and here you are claiming it was foiled.
As the gunman has been killed there will obviously be no charges and it may well be impossible to determine his exact motives, but if someone was discovered in the grounds of our houses with a loaded shotgun I doubt if either of us would believe they were there to read the water meter.
Exactly he had a 12 gauge, hardly a decent weapon for assassination, it would require a close up hit, getting past a vast amount of security. And having a can of fuel with him too it frankly sounds more like an arson attempt probably a form of protest. Nothing here is shouting assassination attempt.
I cannot agree with that assessment."
So how does a full length shot gun, fuel canister and the public knowledge that trump was not at mar a largo at the time say to you “assassination attempt” when the fbi and secret service are not saying that ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived! |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived! "
I’m still waiting for how you believe a man with a shot gun, fuel and the public knowledge that trump was not there, shows it was an assignation attempt against trump? |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived! "
It seems to an unfortunate fact if life in the US, the scum even kill schoolchildren.
If trump had been there he probably wouldn't have got that close |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
I’m still waiting for how you believe a man with a shot gun, fuel and the public knowledge that trump was not there, shows it was an assignation attempt against trump?"
I feel you may wait some time. |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived! "
Has anyone said he wasn't a threat to life?
Or a confused tourist? |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
I’m still waiting for how you believe a man with a shot gun, fuel and the public knowledge that trump was not there, shows it was an assignation attempt against trump?"
Probably a good idea not to go down that particular rabbit hole..  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
Has anyone said he wasn't a threat to life?
Or a confused tourist?"
I'm always very happy to debate with people who argue in good faith and refrain from personal remarks. |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
Has anyone said he wasn't a threat to life?
Or a confused tourist?
I'm always very happy to debate with people who argue in good faith and refrain from personal remarks. "
Are you getting confused?
Or is it simply the case that not for the first time you post something totally false as a way of ducking a reply to a question which highlights your making stuff up..?
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By (user no longer on site) OP 10 weeks ago
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
Has anyone said he wasn't a threat to life?
Or a confused tourist?
I'm always very happy to debate with people who argue in good faith and refrain from personal remarks. "
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
Has anyone said he wasn't a threat to life?
Or a confused tourist?
I'm always very happy to debate with people who argue in good faith and refrain from personal remarks.
Are you getting confused?
Or is it simply the case that not for the first time you post something totally false as a way of ducking a reply to a question which highlights your making stuff up..?
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
It seems to an unfortunate fact if life in the US, the scum even kill schoolchildren.
If trump had been there he probably wouldn't have got that close "
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
I’m still waiting for how you believe a man with a shot gun, fuel and the public knowledge that trump was not there, shows it was an assignation attempt against trump?
I feel you may wait some time."
Because you’re unable to I assume? It seems pretty weak to start a thread claiming a trump assassination attempt was thwarted, to then be unable to back up your belief it was even an assassination attempt in the first place. If it was a shooting why the fuel can, if it was assignation by fire why the shot gun ? If it was an attempt on trump, why on a day that he was known to be in another part of the country altogether? |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
I’m still waiting for how you believe a man with a shot gun, fuel and the public knowledge that trump was not there, shows it was an assignation attempt against trump?
I feel you may wait some time.
Because you’re unable to I assume? It seems pretty weak to start a thread claiming a trump assassination attempt was thwarted, to then be unable to back up your belief it was even an assassination attempt in the first place. If it was a shooting why the fuel can, if it was assignation by fire why the shot gun ? If it was an attempt on trump, why on a day that he was known to be in another part of the country altogether? "
Within Forum rules we can start threads on whatever we like, and by definition they express an opinion. No one is forced to post in those threads if they think the opinion is weak, nor is the OP under any obligation to justify their opinion to those who disagree with it.
At no point have I asked you to justify your opinion that this was not an attempted assassination, although on the known facts that seems to me very unlikely, so I can't add anything to my opinion that it was, which I believe the known facts strongly support.
I'm not avoiding your question and I thank you for debating in good faith, but we simply have different perspectives on the same events. I think it's fair to say there have been many threads making wild and abusive accusations about President Trump with zero evidence at all, and I find it best to avoid those. |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
I’m still waiting for how you believe a man with a shot gun, fuel and the public knowledge that trump was not there, shows it was an assignation attempt against trump?
I feel you may wait some time.
Because you’re unable to I assume? It seems pretty weak to start a thread claiming a trump assassination attempt was thwarted, to then be unable to back up your belief it was even an assassination attempt in the first place. If it was a shooting why the fuel can, if it was assignation by fire why the shot gun ? If it was an attempt on trump, why on a day that he was known to be in another part of the country altogether?
Within Forum rules we can start threads on whatever we like, and by definition they express an opinion. No one is forced to post in those threads if they think the opinion is weak, nor is the OP under any obligation to justify their opinion to those who disagree with it.
At no point have I asked you to justify your opinion that this was not an attempted assassination, although on the known facts that seems to me very unlikely, so I can't add anything to my opinion that it was, which I believe the known facts strongly support.
I'm not avoiding your question and I thank you for debating in good faith, but we simply have different perspectives on the same events. I think it's fair to say there have been many threads making wild and abusive accusations about President Trump with zero evidence at all, and I find it best to avoid those. "
You can indeed set up a forum to discuss anything, but to have any credibility in a discussion you should be able to back up your original standing that this was an assassination attempt. Instead as soon as basic points have been raised against the original topic post you’ve attempted to shut down discussion. |
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"Very interesting replies, some perhaps more revealing than intended, but thanks for all nonetheless. I think whatever our different perspectives on whether a disturbed man with a loaded shotgun that he aimed at police was a credible threat to life or simply a confused tourist, we can all be thankful that no life except his was lost and that the democratically elected leader of the free world has survived!
I’m still waiting for how you believe a man with a shot gun, fuel and the public knowledge that trump was not there, shows it was an assignation attempt against trump?
I feel you may wait some time.
Because you’re unable to I assume? It seems pretty weak to start a thread claiming a trump assassination attempt was thwarted, to then be unable to back up your belief it was even an assassination attempt in the first place. If it was a shooting why the fuel can, if it was assignation by fire why the shot gun ? If it was an attempt on trump, why on a day that he was known to be in another part of the country altogether?
Within Forum rules we can start threads on whatever we like, and by definition they express an opinion. No one is forced to post in those threads if they think the opinion is weak, nor is the OP under any obligation to justify their opinion to those who disagree with it.
At no point have I asked you to justify your opinion that this was not an attempted assassination, although on the known facts that seems to me very unlikely, so I can't add anything to my opinion that it was, which I believe the known facts strongly support.
I'm not avoiding your question and I thank you for debating in good faith, but we simply have different perspectives on the same events. I think it's fair to say there have been many threads making wild and abusive accusations about President Trump with zero evidence at all, and I find it best to avoid those.
You can indeed set up a forum to discuss anything, but to have any credibility in a discussion you should be able to back up your original standing that this was an assassination attempt. Instead as soon as basic points have been raised against the original topic post you’ve attempted to shut down discussion. "
Well that's clearly not true as I've replied to you several times now. It's true I won't reply to people who make personal remarks but I have no way of stopping them from posting, and wouldn't if I could!
The facts of this case are largely in the public domain now, and likely to become more so. If people are determined to believe this was not an attempt on the Presidents life in spite of the evidence then that's a difference of opinion I respect but cannot possibly agree with. |
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You can indeed set up a forum to discuss anything, but to have any credibility in a discussion you should be able to back up your original standing that this was an assassination attempt. Instead as soon as basic points have been raised against the original topic post you’ve attempted to shut down discussion. "
If I understand you correctly you are saying the claim/opinion that this was an attempted assassination has no 'credibility' ?
A man with a loaded shotgun in the grounds of property frequently occupied by a President who has been subject to at least three assassination attempts (the law enforcement view, not mine) - it is not credible to see him as threat to the President's life? 🤔 |
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You can indeed set up a forum to discuss anything, but to have any credibility in a discussion you should be able to back up your original standing that this was an assassination attempt. Instead as soon as basic points have been raised against the original topic post you’ve attempted to shut down discussion.
If I understand you correctly you are saying the claim/opinion that this was an attempted assassination has no 'credibility' ?
A man with a loaded shotgun in the grounds of property frequently occupied by a President who has been subject to at least three assassination attempts (the law enforcement view, not mine) - it is not credible to see him as threat to the President's life? 🤔"
Not when it’s publicly known he was in Washington DC at the time, on the weekend he was hosting the governors dinner, which was all over the news.
Not when there was a combination of a gas can and a firearm totally unsuited to an assassination attempt in a country where any number of more suitable weapons are available. You would need to be within 50 yards max to even have a good chance at a kill with a 12. Especially with what seems to be a Remington, it’s not concealable, or accurate.
Especially given the security at mar a largo. It has very little credibility as an assignation attempt. Not zero, but very little indeed.
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"He was not even there..
Should Trump make his exact location public at all times to assist would be assasins ?
Actually… the president has a public diary so would actually know where he would have been… so you would have known if he was at the white house or at mar a lago…..
Thanks for playing though “p”….. "
Actually that diary is not published in advance; only retrospectively. |
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You can indeed set up a forum to discuss anything, but to have any credibility in a discussion you should be able to back up your original standing that this was an assassination attempt. Instead as soon as basic points have been raised against the original topic post you’ve attempted to shut down discussion.
If I understand you correctly you are saying the claim/opinion that this was an attempted assassination has no 'credibility' ?
A man with a loaded shotgun in the grounds of property frequently occupied by a President who has been subject to at least three assassination attempts (the law enforcement view, not mine) - it is not credible to see him as threat to the President's life? 🤔
Not when it’s publicly known he was in Washington DC at the time, on the weekend he was hosting the governors dinner, which was all over the news.
Not when there was a combination of a gas can and a firearm totally unsuited to an assassination attempt in a country where any number of more suitable weapons are available. You would need to be within 50 yards max to even have a good chance at a kill with a 12. Especially with what seems to be a Remington, it’s not concealable, or accurate.
Especially given the security at mar a largo. It has very little credibility as an assignation attempt. Not zero, but very little indeed.
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"A man with a loaded shotgun in the grounds of property frequently occupied by a President who has been subject to at least three assassination attempts (the law enforcement view, not mine) - it is not credible to see him as threat to the President's life?"
"Not when it’s publicly known he was in Washington DC at the time, on the weekend he was hosting the governors dinner, which was all over the news."
You seem to be making the assumption that the man was acting rationally, with a well thought through plan. I'm going to suggest that may not be the case. |
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By *abioMan 10 weeks ago
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"He was not even there..
Should Trump make his exact location public at all times to assist would be assasins ?
Actually… the president has a public diary so would actually know where he would have been… so you would have known if he was at the white house or at mar a lago…..
Thanks for playing though “p”…..
Actually that diary is not published in advance; only retrospectively. "
That is the one that is held for posterity as a historical record….
It’s only published retrospectively if it’s for “national security”… such as if for example he was visiting a war zone such as Afghanistan in which case it would have “no events scheduled” and the press would not be allowed to report on it until he got back…
Otherwise the president public event schedule is normally at least correct up to a week in advance (because they need to liaise with local authorities for security for example) and trips abroad because those are normally planned well in advance.. for example his upcoming trip to china
But like you claim and are now back tracking… assassination attempt… absolutely…. Erm… probably…possibly… maybe not |
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"He was not even there..
Should Trump make his exact location public at all times to assist would be assasins ?
Actually… the president has a public diary so would actually know where he would have been… so you would have known if he was at the white house or at mar a lago…..
Thanks for playing though “p”…..
Actually that diary is not published in advance; only retrospectively.
That is the one that is held for posterity as a historical record….
It’s only published retrospectively if it’s for “national security”… such as if for example he was visiting a war zone such as Afghanistan in which case it would have “no events scheduled” and the press would not be allowed to report on it until he got back…
Otherwise the president public event schedule is normally at least correct up to a week in advance (because they need to liaise with local authorities for security for example) and trips abroad because those are normally planned well in advance.. for example his upcoming trip to china
But like you claim and are now back tracking… assassination attempt… absolutely…. Erm… probably…possibly… maybe not "
Perhaps you're replying to the wrong person as I couldn't have been clearer that this was an assassination attempt.
You also seem a little mixed up about diaries and schedules and I'm none the wiser. |
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By *abioMan 10 weeks ago
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"He was not even there..
Should Trump make his exact location public at all times to assist would be assasins ?
Actually… the president has a public diary so would actually know where he would have been… so you would have known if he was at the white house or at mar a lago…..
Thanks for playing though “p”…..
Actually that diary is not published in advance; only retrospectively.
That is the one that is held for posterity as a historical record….
It’s only published retrospectively if it’s for “national security”… such as if for example he was visiting a war zone such as Afghanistan in which case it would have “no events scheduled” and the press would not be allowed to report on it until he got back…
Otherwise the president public event schedule is normally at least correct up to a week in advance (because they need to liaise with local authorities for security for example) and trips abroad because those are normally planned well in advance.. for example his upcoming trip to china
But like you claim and are now back tracking… assassination attempt… absolutely…. Erm… probably…possibly… maybe not
Perhaps you're replying to the wrong person as I couldn't have been clearer that this was an assassination attempt.
You also seem a little mixed up about diaries and schedules and I'm none the wiser."
The schedule is the present tense…. The diary is the past tense
They are the same thing…. But I think you actually know that and were trying to be deliberately obtuse and pedantic to try and muddy the waters..
See if you read back what you wrote (this is the first time I have seen amnesia kick in mid thread) you were confident in your original claim… then when people called you out with evidence, you backpedaled….. |
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