There's only a few days to go now before lots of us get the opportunity to vote for new local councillors. Despite what some will say, many people treat these votes as if they were a general election, and they vote for parties.
Labor are obviously going to get a kicking, but how much? There are nearly 5000 seats up for grabs, and Labour currently have just over 2,500 of them. Could they lose almost all of them? Would a loss of just 500 be a good result for Labour?
How about Reform? They are expected to do well, so what would be a sign that they did extremely well? Would a gain of just 500 be a disappointment for them?
Or will all the Labour losses go to the Greens? Can we expect a lot more Green councils after this week?
And of course the Liberal Democrats are also running. Will they do any better than last time.
What are your thoughts on who might do well, who might do badly, and what exactly does badly mean for each party? |
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While it's tempting to vote as if it's a general election, when it comes to local elections these are the people who will be in charge of your local area so it's more about local issues that need solving or initiatives to improve the area.
Looking at the party manifestos in our area Reform are following the national agenda, Greens are unrecognisable from the national agenda and everyone gets a fluffy kitten so they are lieing, Lib Dems are sitting on the fence, Labour and Conservatives are promising to fix things in their own ways. Only the Conservatives are actively campaigning though. |
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Every incumbent party tends to get a bit of a mid cycle hammering? I don't know what the biggest swings have been historically in local elections....
Round here we've mainly got really well seasoned and effective Lib Dem councillors.
They're not the most exciting humans out there, but they're effective administrators who turn up and do the job with difficult levels of funding at a local level, and I respect that.
It's not like they have any bearing on national policy, despite some of the noises coming from the light blue corner.
I've seen a fair bit of "4 days to get Starmer out" (etc) tripe online. What a weird emotional angle for folk to hang their hopes on? |
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"We don't have any here this year locally I'd vote conservative in my parish he's been excellent for local issues and he's upset the apple cart of labour councilors."
Reform won second home Newquay and took 25% of the vote. Green came second. Labour last |
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"Round here we've mainly got really well seasoned and effective Lib Dem councillors.
They're not the most exciting humans out there, but they're effective administrators who turn up and do the job with difficult levels of funding at a local level, and I respect that."
Here in Wales we're voting for members of the Senedd, so it really is an important vote. But I suspect that many people will vote based on who will get rid of the blanket 20mph speed limit, so that means either the Tories or Reform. For the rest, Labour have been in power for over a century, and I think most people believe that it's time for a change. I'd expect to see Plaid Cymru doing well, not because of a surge in nationalism, but because many won't vote Tory and if you're not a Reform supporter that leaves just Plaid as the only sensible option. |
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"I've seen a fair bit of "4 days to get Starmer out" (etc) tripe online. What a weird emotional angle for folk to hang their hopes on?"
If you're the sort of person that's really disgusted with what Labour is doing right now, making sure that they get a good thumping in the local elections will almost certainly result in Starmer being pushed out by his own party. That probably seems like a good idea to them.
But I agree, I've never understood the idea of selecting your vote based on who you want to lose, rather than who you'd like to win. |
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By *I TwoCouple 3 days ago
near enough |
"I've seen a fair bit of "4 days to get Starmer out" (etc) tripe online. What a weird emotional angle for folk to hang their hopes on?
If you're the sort of person that's really disgusted with what Labour is doing right now, making sure that they get a good thumping in the local elections will almost certainly result in Starmer being pushed out by his own party. That probably seems like a good idea to them.
But I agree, I've never understood the idea of selecting your vote based on who you want to lose, rather than who you'd like to win."
Northern Ireland voting is always about keeping out one or other main party and fuck all ever gets done because numties get elected so my advice is be careful who you use for your protest vote because it's your services that'll get fucked up.
I haven't seen anything from reform that points towards the ability to run a country and unless I'm mistaken Farage is a lieing cunt.
The UK seems to be run by social media in a downward spiral |
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In Scotland we have the SNP. They have been in power 19 years. They are promising the same things again today as they did years ago. They blame every failure on the Westminister government. Worst of all they want independence, without a clue how to do it run the Government afterwards
Reform are a one trick pony but a lot of disgruntled voters will choose them as a protest party.
Labour and the Cons are on the defensive and the Greens are impressive, if you like the idea i
of higher taxes. |
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By *l_xxxMan 2 days ago
South leeds |
"While it's tempting to vote as if it's a general election, when it comes to local elections these are the people who will be in charge of your local area so it's more about local issues that need solving or initiatives to improve the area.
Looking at the party manifestos in our area Reform are following the national agenda, Greens are unrecognisable from the national agenda and everyone gets a fluffy kitten so they are lieing, Lib Dems are sitting on the fence, Labour and Conservatives are promising to fix things in their own ways. Only the Conservatives are actively campaigning though."
It would be good if people understood local council structure. So when they are disgruntled about local matters they call for local resignations and not the top job. Have a look at what your councillor gets paid AND expenses. They need to achieve results for that salary.
Unfortunately my council has the "family voting" scenario, so little change expected. |
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By *ydaz70Man 2 days ago
Rotherham /newquay |
"We don't have any here this year locally I'd vote conservative in my parish he's been excellent for local issues and he's upset the apple cart of labour councilors.
Reform won second home Newquay and took 25% of the vote. Green came second. Labour last "
that surprised me as I'd have said conservative but I can't vote there I'm in Rotherham. |
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"In Scotland we have the SNP. They have been in power 19 years. They are promising the same things again today as they did years ago. They blame every failure on the Westminister government. Worst of all they want independence, without a clue how to do it run the Government afterwards
Reform are a one trick pony but a lot of disgruntled voters will choose them as a protest party.
Labour and the Cons are on the defensive and the Greens are impressive, if you like the idea i
of higher taxes."
Lol I doubt many here will be rich enough to have higher taxes. If you are drop me a dm  |
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"Every incumbent party tends to get a bit of a mid cycle hammering? I don't know what the biggest swings have been historically in local elections....
Round here we've mainly got really well seasoned and effective Lib Dem councillors.
They're not the most exciting humans out there, but they're effective administrators who turn up and do the job with difficult levels of funding at a local level, and I respect that.
It's not like they have any bearing on national policy, despite some of the noises coming from the light blue corner.
I've seen a fair bit of "4 days to get Starmer out" (etc) tripe online. What a weird emotional angle for folk to hang their hopes on? "
Lib Dems were often the choice to register a protest vote but they now have competition from the greens and reform. It does seem a battle on who gets the most protest votes. Both labour and conservatives may be hoping that with extra choice it splits the protest voting and enables them to claim some unexpected wins. |
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"Lol I doubt many here will be rich enough to have higher taxes. If you are drop me a dm"
In Scotland the higher rate kicks in at £43,663. There might be one or two people here that can claim that lofty amount. |
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"We dont have local elections here! If we did i would vote for green!
For policy, tactically or in protest? Why, specifically, for your area?
Because our local fella Steve does so much locally! "
Exactly why you should be voting for him  |
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"Lol I doubt many here will be rich enough to have higher taxes. If you are drop me a dm
In Scotland the higher rate kicks in at £43,663. There might be one or two people here that can claim that lofty amount."
But the greens aren't talking about taxing those people. Just the mega rich so don't worry you will be safe. |
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"Lol I doubt many here will be rich enough to have higher taxes. If you are drop me a dm
In Scotland the higher rate kicks in at £43,663. There might be one or two people here that can claim that lofty amount.
But the greens aren't talking about taxing those people. Just the mega rich so don't worry you will be safe."
If you take every penny from every billionaire in the UK it would cover government spending for.......Wait for it.......around 6 months. 
Then what?  |
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"We dont have local elections here! If we did i would vote for green!
For policy, tactically or in protest? Why, specifically, for your area?
Because our local fella Steve does so much locally!
Exactly why you should be voting for him "
Indeed. Wouldn't dream of voting Tory in a GE, but the County Councillor is actually pretty good, so I'm considering it. |
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"Lol I doubt many here will be rich enough to have higher taxes. If you are drop me a dm
In Scotland the higher rate kicks in at £43,663. There might be one or two people here that can claim that lofty amount.
But the greens aren't talking about taxing those people. Just the mega rich so don't worry you will be safe.
If you take every penny from every billionaire in the UK it would cover government spending for.......Wait for it.......around 6 months.
Then what? "
770 billion? |
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If you take every penny from every billionaire in the UK it would cover government spending for.......Wait for it.......around 6 months.
Then what? "
There was a story about a goose and golden eggs... |
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By *hief ScoutMan 3 hours ago
Middx/Herts borders-ish or thereabouts ! |
"We dont have local elections here! If we did i would vote for green!
For policy, tactically or in protest? Why, specifically, for your area?
Because our local fella Steve does so much locally!
Exactly why you should be voting for him
Indeed. Wouldn't dream of voting Tory in a GE, but the County Councillor is actually pretty good, so I'm considering it."
All perfectly sums up the difference between local & national politics.
Anyway folks, irrespective of your views and how much mainstream figures may be pissing us off at the moment, remember this - people are still killing each other in other parts of the world to try to obtain a fraction of what we take for granted. Don't like any of the candidates ? Then go to the polling station and spoil your paper, that way your opinion still gets registered |
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"Lol I doubt many here will be rich enough to have higher taxes. If you are drop me a dm
In Scotland the higher rate kicks in at £43,663. There might be one or two people here that can claim that lofty amount.
But the greens aren't talking about taxing those people. Just the mega rich so don't worry you will be safe.
If you take every penny from every billionaire in the UK it would cover government spending for.......Wait for it.......around 6 months.
Then what?
770 billion?"
The scroungers would eat it up in no time |
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