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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
they have the same problem as the republicans have in the us.... their chose and view is so insular with the candidiate they choose that it doesn't appeal to the general electorate..... |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"they have the same problem as the republicans have in the us.... their chose and view is so insular with the candidiate they choose that it doesn't appeal to the general electorate....."
 not good for the country we need a credible oposition |
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"they have the same problem as the republicans have in the us.... their chose and view is so insular with the candidiate they choose that it doesn't appeal to the general electorate..... not good for the country we need a credible oposition"
Don't think we will get a credible opersition any time soon. |
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"they have the same problem as the republicans have in the us.... their chose and view is so insular with the candidiate they choose that it doesn't appeal to the general electorate....."
Really? I am surprised at you Fabio, you are not normally taken in by black propaganda.
May I point out to you that election results since the appointment of JC as leader 12 months ago have equalled and exceeded those of the high water line in the Blair era (with one or two exceptions where those standing stood as being anti JC left, pro Blairite right). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"they have the same problem as the republicans have in the us.... their chose and view is so insular with the candidiate they choose that it doesn't appeal to the general electorate....."
Not really. Trump is way more popular than Corbyn!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Basically Militant Tendency are back. I noted that once it was clear who had won our old mate Derek "Degsy" Hatton was back on our screens with his support for Corbyn.
So the parliamentary Labour Party [MPs] seem to have have 3 choices!
1. Lick Corbyn's arse and hope they can stay in [ see Andy Burnham who stood against him last time calling him inept]
2. Wait for Corbyn and militant/momentum to deselect them and replace them with socialist worker candidates.
3. Form a break away party similar to SNP which could end up much bigger than Corbyn's loony left rump.
There are often those commenting in the forums about "grabbing the popcorn and sitting back". This really could be the time to do that! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Awkward position for most Labour MP's to be in. They will want to lose the next general election to see the back of Corbyn but that could of course mean they lose their jobs. A rock and a hard place |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Awkward position for most Labour MP's to be in. They will want to lose the next general election to see the back of Corbyn but that could of course mean they lose their jobs. A rock and a hard place"
'Lunatics taking over the asylum' springs to mind... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Awkward position for most Labour MP's to be in. They will want to lose the next general election to see the back of Corbyn but that could of course mean they lose their jobs. A rock and a hard place
'Lunatics taking over the asylum' springs to mind... "
the revolution has arrived comrade  |
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"they have the same problem as the republicans have in the us.... their chose and view is so insular with the candidiate they choose that it doesn't appeal to the general electorate.....
Really? I am surprised at you Fabio, you are not normally taken in by black propaganda.
May I point out to you that election results since the appointment of JC as leader 12 months ago have equalled and exceeded those of the high water line in the Blair era (with one or two exceptions where those standing stood as being anti JC left, pro Blairite right)."
Sorry but _abio is bang on grassroot voters for either party dont decide a general election the centre voters do and jc is taking labour so far left they will not vote for him and therefore not get the 3million swing in votes required to topple the tories |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Awkward position for most Labour MP's to be in. They will want to lose the next general election to see the back of Corbyn but that could of course mean they lose their jobs. A rock and a hard place
'Lunatics taking over the asylum' springs to mind...
the revolution has arrived comrade "
More like a bunch of dinosaurs trying to re-create jurassic park. I wonder how many people regret that we didn't take labour up on their 1983 offer to leave NATO and cosy up to the societ union? Other than Mr Corbyn of course... I wonder how that would have turned out  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wouldn't call lefties militant. The "Chicago Boys" in Chile used torture of lefties to create capitalism.
Terror was the central tool of the free-market transformation. Repression for the majorities and ‘economic freedom’ for small privileged groups are two sides of the same coin. Should I call capitalists torturers?
It's not the ideology you believe in that defines you. They all have bloody histories. It's the actions you take. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"they have the same problem as the republicans have in the us.... their chose and view is so insular with the candidiate they choose that it doesn't appeal to the general electorate.....
Really? I am surprised at you Fabio, you are not normally taken in by black propaganda.
May I point out to you that election results since the appointment of JC as leader 12 months ago have equalled and exceeded those of the high water line in the Blair era (with one or two exceptions where those standing stood as being anti JC left, pro Blairite right)."
i think you are confusing an increase in membership with a bigger popularity amongst the general popular...
good for them now being the biggest membership political party in europe.... but i don't think they are take that membership from those who supported other mainstream parties...
SNP membership is up Probably at the expense of labour voters)....Lib Dem membership is up against probably at the expense of the right side of labour, and the left side of the tories).... conservative membership is steady....
half a million "supporters" in a sea of 40 million actual voters isn't that big really......
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's not the ideology you believe in that defines you. They all have bloody histories. It's the actions you take."
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Hoorah somebody actually understands personal choice.
I just wouldn't hold your breath waiting for everybody else to exercise it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If all the people who say Corbyn is unelectable decided to vote for him as their protest vote against the other parties...  "
Then the UK would be totally fucked.
Give up trident....thousands out of work, kicked out of NATO.
Crawl back to the EU.....with them dictating terms and insisting we join the Euro and Shengen [unless he admits he is actually a brexiter]
Suck up to Putin....become a satellite state of Russia.
Continue to antagonise the Jews......so USA ostracise us as they are a large, influential group there.....
Maybe not all of these but perm any combination you like and add in several more..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There's seems to be two diametrically opposed forces in the politics forum.
One thinks by voting brexit we'll turn into the fourth Reich
The other thinks by voting corbyn we'll turn into a Putin controlled Russian satellite state! 
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I went to the pub last night, I was shocked at the lack of fights between militants and fascists, mind you boxing probably took they're minds off it!.... Oh no wait most people are just still themselves |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's seems to be two diametrically opposed forces in the politics forum.
One thinks by voting brexit we'll turn into the fourth Reich
The other thinks by voting corbyn we'll turn into a Putin controlled Russian satellite state!
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I went to the pub last night, I was shocked at the lack of fights between militants and fascists, mind you boxing probably took they're minds off it!.... Oh no wait most people are just still themselves"
It's not what I think, it was the Labour manifesto in 1983. Most of which Corbyn has said he agrees with!!! How anyone can call themselves a Marxist with a straight face is also beyond me... |
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At least with Corbyn in charge there will be a real choice before the electorate rather than Tory or Tory-lite i.e. Labour under Blair. Perhaps people should have a choice between more opposed policies for a change. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At least with Corbyn in charge there will be a real choice before the electorate rather than Tory or Tory-lite i.e. Labour under Blair. Perhaps people should have a choice between more opposed policies for a change."
You mean like in America where you have a choice between extremely corrupt and extremely prejudice?
Most voters are middle ground, we're happy with choosing between different middle ground policies. We don't want a choice between Hitler or Stalin. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Conundrum ?
Corbyn wants to suck up to Putin !
Corbyn hates Trump !
Trump wants to suck up to Putin !
Putin wants to suck up to Trump !
Go figure  "
Sounds like a 'diasy chain'  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Conundrum ?
Corbyn wants to suck up to Putin !
Corbyn hates Trump !
Trump wants to suck up to Putin !
Putin wants to suck up to Trump !
Go figure
Sounds like a 'diasy chain' "
With Stinging Nettles at the end of it |
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