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Part 2 1st stage of the Continuity Bill passes

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act "

I trust the Tories not to because I have never heard or read anything by any Tory expressing any wish or desire to remove powers from Scotland.

Do you read anything other than the national, wings and Bella ???

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

I trust the Tories not to because I have never heard or read anything by any Tory expressing any wish or desire to remove powers from Scotland.

Do you read anything other than the national, wings and Bella ???"

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

I trust the Tories not to because I have never heard or read anything by any Tory expressing any wish or desire to remove powers from Scotland.

Do you read anything other than the national, wings and Bella ???"

And if the did take devolved powers back would you be pissed off ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Just to add the Red Tories into this also

Jeremy Corbyn - Labour "Stop immigrants undercutting wages"

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act "

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it."

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?"

Yes.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

From the BBC interesting wording

"UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh"

So what do they mean by Edinbrugh ?

It that Holyrood or the Scottish office where Mundell is

Oh wait none of you would even thinkto challenge that yoon love to be telt from their masters in London

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?

Yes. "

And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?

Yes.

And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ?"

Nope.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?

Yes.

And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ?

Nope."

So you dont care about Scotland good good

See i knew you were anti Scottish

I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?

Yes.

And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ?

Nope.

So you dont care about Scotland good good

See i knew you were anti Scottish

I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution

"

Why is that anti-scottish?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?

Yes.

And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ?

Nope.

So you dont care about Scotland good good

See i knew you were anti Scottish

I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution

Why is that anti-scottish?"

Why ?

Oh i dont know maybe because ...........

You dont seem to care about devolved powers going into Tory hands

What is it because England voted Tory you want Scotland to suffer too ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act

It wouldn't if they repealed it.

Yes it would

So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?

Yes.

And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ?

Nope.

So you dont care about Scotland good good

See i knew you were anti Scottish

I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution

Why is that anti-scottish?

Why ?

Oh i dont know maybe because ...........

You dont seem to care about devolved powers going into Tory hands

What is it because England voted Tory you want Scotland to suffer too ?"

The UK voted Tory, not just England. I don't care, but you are talking about a purely hypothetical. There has been devolution for 20 years, as far as I am aware, there is no party big enough to have even a single MP, who have ever suggested taking any powers whatsoever away from Scotland.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, and tell me, which party has said they will take powers away from Scotland?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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No the UK didnt vote Tory

Again

England voted a Tory majority

Scotland voted for a SNP majority

Wales voted for a Labour majority

NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster

See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland

Yes you anti Scottish!!!!!

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"No the UK didnt vote Tory

Again

England voted a Tory majority

Scotland voted for a SNP majority

Wales voted for a Labour majority

NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster

See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland

Yes you anti Scottish!!!!!"

The UK did vote Tory.

Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening?

Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland?

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk

Shut up kinky with your anti Scottish nonsense just because someone doesn't agree with you.

As us Scottish say "your patter is pish".

Post after post of utter garbage with everyone providing suffeciant information to your answers.

As a Scotsman who voted for independence you views and comments do not represent us Scots on here.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Shut up kinky with your anti Scottish nonsense just because someone doesn't agree with you.

As us Scottish say "your patter is pish".

Post after post of utter garbage with everyone providing suffeciant information to your answers.

As a Scotsman who voted for independence you views and comments do not represent us Scots on here.

"

Oooofftt now telling me to shut up nae thanks

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk

Offt here we go..........

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"No the UK didnt vote Tory

Again

England voted a Tory majority

Scotland voted for a SNP majority

Wales voted for a Labour majority

NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster

See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland

Yes you anti Scottish!!!!!

The UK did vote Tory.

Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening?

Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland? "

Fucking hell your piss poor

Again

England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying ?

Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ?

The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"No the UK didnt vote Tory

Again

England voted a Tory majority

Scotland voted for a SNP majority

Wales voted for a Labour majority

NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster

See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland

Yes you anti Scottish!!!!!

The UK did vote Tory.

Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening?

Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland?

Fucking hell your piss poor

Again

England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying ?

Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ?

The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ?

"

You are paranoid. No party has taken one single power from Scotland in the last 20 years, yet you are shitting your pants believing that they will, despite the fact that not one single mainstream party has ever suggested doing so.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"No the UK didnt vote Tory

Again

England voted a Tory majority

Scotland voted for a SNP majority

Wales voted for a Labour majority

NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster

See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland

Yes you anti Scottish!!!!!

The UK did vote Tory.

Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening?

Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland?

Fucking hell your piss poor

Again

England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying ?

Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ?

The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ?

You are paranoid. No party has taken one single power from Scotland in the last 20 years, yet you are shitting your pants believing that they will, despite the fact that not one single mainstream party has ever suggested doing so."

Oh CLCC

England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted for a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying ?

Did brexit happen in those 20 years ?

And yes i notice tou worded that like Fabio

I asked what makes yous trust the Tories to not take devolved powers away from Holyrood ?

I gave you an example of the Tories lying when they said they wouldnt cut child tax credits

So why believe trust them ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"No the UK didnt vote Tory

Again

England voted a Tory majority

Scotland voted for a SNP majority

Wales voted for a Labour majority

NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster

See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland

Yes you anti Scottish!!!!!

The UK did vote Tory.

Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening?

Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland?

Fucking hell your piss poor

Again

England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying ?

Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ?

The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ?

You are paranoid. No party has taken one single power from Scotland in the last 20 years, yet you are shitting your pants believing that they will, despite the fact that not one single mainstream party has ever suggested doing so.

Oh CLCC

England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted for a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying ?

Did brexit happen in those 20 years ?

And yes i notice tou worded that like Fabio

I asked what makes yous trust the Tories to not take devolved powers away from Holyrood ?

I gave you an example of the Tories lying when they said they wouldnt cut child tax credits

So why believe trust them ?"

Tory MPs come from Scotland, Wales and England, and are supported by the DUP.

Westminster politics isn't determined by majority in Scotland, England, Wales and NI. You really should know that by now.

Why are you shitting your pants? The Tories haven't said that they are going to take any powers at all.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Yes there is a minority of Scottish Tory branch mps

But again England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted for a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying?

Lmao the Tories said they werent going to cut child tax credits that was a lie correct ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And I think that's the essence of it- distrust. There's maybe sense in having a UK-based farming and fishing policy so everyone in the UK works by the same rules- I don't know the details- but it appears Wales and Scotland see it either as the thin end of a wedge or losing hard-won powers that's the problem

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Look we all know devoultion was a con to stop independence

But devolved powers should be respected and for all 111 powers to stay in Holyrood

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Yes there is a minority of Scottish Tory branch mps

But again England voted for a majority of Tories mps

Scotland voted for a majority of SNP mps

Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps

Where am i lying?

Lmao the Tories said they werent going to cut child tax credits that was a lie correct ?"

It makes not the blindest bit of difference because that is NOT how it works.

Can you name one single act of Parliament that was voted one but only Welsh MPs or only Scottish MPs?

I don't believe that any party would make major constitutional change without it being in a manifesto, and even if they did, it wouldn't pass the house of lords.

You keep shitting your pants though if that's what makes you happy.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Look we all know devoultion was a con to stop independence

But devolved powers should be respected and for all 111 powers to stay in Holyrood "

No powers are leaving!

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"From the BBC interesting wording

"UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh"

So what do they mean by Edinbrugh ?

It that Holyrood or the Scottish office where Mundell is

Oh wait none of you would even thinkto challenge that yoon love to be telt from their masters in London "

ffs.... that is a cherrypicked quote, if you are going to be selective then don't be disingenious....

the actual quote, because they were talking about ALL the devolved governments...

"UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh, BELFAST AND CARDIFF"

nice of you to leave out the last 3 words to try and make a point that doesn't really need to be made....

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Lmao

So England have 297 Tory mps and you know love trying to rub it in that England have the biggest population in the UK

If you delete those 297 mps you would have a Labour government oops did i let the cat out the bag that its England that gives the UK a Tory government

Thats your opinion but the Tories " could" take devolved powers from Holyrood

I have shown you why the Tories cannot be trusted as i said the Tories claimed they were not going to cut child credits but that was a lie

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

So Fabio can you be 100% that when they say the vast majority of powers will go to Edinburgh do they mean Holyrood or the Scottish office ?

I get it none of think of these things and wont challenge these things just are happy to be telt from the London masters

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

charming... not even going to admit they fiddled the quotes...

that low....... even for you!!!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"charming... not even going to admit they fiddled the quotes...

that low....... even for you!!!!"

Who is they ? My wife is not in this debate duh!!!

Charming not gonna answer so Fabio is it Holyrood or the Scottish office these vast majority of powers going to ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Look we all know devoultion was a con to stop independence

But devolved powers should be respected and for all 111 powers to stay in Holyrood "

Well, in principle, I'd agree but take the fishing policy- doesn't apply to other boats than Scotland's so doesn't exclude them, only Scottish ones- but would Westminster continue the Scottish policy or not?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"So Fabio can you be 100% that when they say the vast majority of powers will go to Edinburgh do they mean Holyrood or the Scottish office ?

I get it none of think of these things and wont challenge these things just are happy to be telt from the London masters

"

yes he meant Edinburgh (holyrood), Cardiff (the welsh assembly) and Belfast (Stormont/ N.I assembly)

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

fact still is stands that you picked that quote and left bits out to twist it to your own narrative...

and that is low..... and not given people the entire picture of what was said...

bang out of order.....

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"So Fabio can you be 100% that when they say the vast majority of powers will go to Edinburgh do they mean Holyrood or the Scottish office ?

I get it none of think of these things and wont challenge these things just are happy to be telt from the London masters

yes he meant Edinburgh (holyrood), Cardiff (the welsh assembly) and Belfast (Stormont/ N.I assembly)"

Really and you know this 100% for sure ?

What has lead you to believe this ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

No powers are being taken! What a bunch of scaredy cats! Shitting your pants about something that's not even happening

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"So Fabio can you be 100% that when they say the vast majority of powers will go to Edinburgh do they mean Holyrood or the Scottish office ?

I get it none of think of these things and wont challenge these things just are happy to be telt from the London masters

yes he meant Edinburgh (holyrood), Cardiff (the welsh assembly) and Belfast (Stormont/ N.I assembly)

Really and you know this 100% for sure ?

What has lead you to believe this ?

"

because there are civil servants that i personally know that are working on all those projects.... thats how i know!!!!

so again.... you picked and twisted and left out information in that quote to suit your own narrative and give people the wrong impression of what had been said...

thats bang out of order.....

I don't expect you to give an apology because thats what any decent person would do.....

maybe for once, you'll prove me wrong....

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Wow Fabio i disnt know it was that hard to say Holyrood or even Scottish parilament lol

So again how can you be sure ? Is it really that hard to say Holyrood now ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"No powers are being taken! What a bunch of scaredy cats! Shitting your pants about something that's not even happening "

And you can be 100% about that ?

I thought you claimed Westminster have the power to take powers away from devolved parilaments ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"No powers are being taken! What a bunch of scaredy cats! Shitting your pants about something that's not even happening

And you can be 100% about that ?

I thought you claimed Westminster have the power to take powers away from devolved parilaments ?

"

They do, but they are not.

Parliament have the power to change the state language to Vietnamese, but I'm not worried that they will.

Parliament has the power to bank all but state approved haircuts like NK. But I'm not worried they will.

Parliament has the power to name Scientology the state religion, but I'm not worried they will.

Parliament has the power to take powers away from the Scottish Parliament, I'm not worried they will, but you are shitting your pants!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Wow thats a fast u-turn

So you claim no powers are being taken but you cannot be 100% sure of that is that correct ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Wow thats a fast u-turn

So you claim no powers are being taken but you cannot be 100% sure of that is that correct ?

"

No U turn, no powers are being taken away. You have no idea what the actual topic at hand is!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wow thats a fast u-turn

So you claim no powers are being taken but you cannot be 100% sure of that is that correct ?

"

Can you 100% be sure they will Mr zealot no of course you cant

Stop asking stupid Hypothetical questions.

Everyone else on here puts facts up with links all you do is post stupid questions

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

The Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland.

Can anyone 100% guaranteed that that won't happen?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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There we go again

CLCC you are claiming no powers are being taken but you cant be 100% sure of that

As you said Westminster have power to take devolved powers away from Holyrood

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Wow thats a fast u-turn

So you claim no powers are being taken but you cannot be 100% sure of that is that correct ?

Can you 100% be sure they will Mr zealot no of course you cant

Stop asking stupid Hypothetical questions.

Everyone else on here puts facts up with links all you do is post stupid questions "

Stupid questions lmao

Oh so damn well sorry for challenging this shit i should just shut the fuck up and just let it happen eh lol

You may want to bow for your masters but here in Scotland we have baws lol

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland.

Can anyone 100% guaranteed that that won't happen? "

Come on Kinky, can you be sure?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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David Mundell claimed Brexit impact analysis didn’t exist. Which it did

He claimed Brexit would not negatively impact Scotland’s economy. It will

He claimed Tories are not carrying out a powergrab on Holyrood Really does look like it

But then again on here people thibk the Tories never lie

Oh so sorry they never lied about cutting child tax credits then ?

I get it you will cover up Tory lies to save the UK sad and sick

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland.

Can anyone 100% guaranteed that that won't happen?

Come on Kinky, can you be sure? "

SNP are closing all schools and hospitals! Shit your pants and run for the hills!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Then we have Red Tory (Labour) claiming Jeremy Corbyn they need to stop immigrants undercutting wages

Oh remember this "British jobs for British workers"

Or this " controls on immigration"

Red and Blue Tories cant tell them apart and UKIP might as we all join together in what bug racist party

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

What is the fucking point?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And it's good night from me

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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The poibt would be peope on here want to bury this as it dont look goid on the UK oh well tough titties!! Lol

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"And it's good night from me "

Goodnight sweet dreams or wet dreams lol

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By *igsteve43Man  over a year ago

derby

So this thread has now got part 2, i guess its due to kinky not listening as usual.

My question to kinky is this, for a man who insists scotland will be independanr in 2yrs, why do you care so much about this?

And before you say answer my question first, here you go i dont trust any political party to do exactly what it says

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Then we have Red Tory (Labour) claiming Jeremy Corbyn they need to stop immigrants undercutting wages

"

do you have any understanding of what context he actually said that quote....

because if you did, i really... really... really don't think you would be using it.....

i'll give you a chance to redeem yourself.....

do you just spin or leave thing out... or just twist everything....

you have already been caught out one tonight not quoting properly and intentionally misleading people...

would you like a 2nd?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me "

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Yeah Fabio it would like when Labour said " control on immigration" or that other one " British jobs for British workers "

Corbyn found his own slogan to screw over EU citizens

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So from the last message on part 1

Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement"

So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ?

It would breach the Scotland Act "

Kinky- is it not that EU powers are coming back to the UK and it those which are already devolved that are under scrutiny? Westminster has said in principle it doesn't object but will have an ultimate veto over anything that's agreed in devolved governments in certain areas if there is not a general consensus between the devolved areas. So the powers remain. ....but are castrated.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!"

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one "

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Yeah Fabio it would like when Labour said " control on immigration" or that other one " British jobs for British workers "

Corbyn found his own slogan to screw over EU citizens

"

nice try... actually no...

it is part of a campaign where what was happening at the post office was they they were bring in staff from the EU and paying them much less than their Unionised colleagues.......

the the campaign is two fold...

1) pay the EU casuals the same rate as the unionised workers....

2) don't use the pay the EU casuals were getting to keep down the pay of the unionised colleagues.....

if you have ever watched PMQ it is a subject he has actually brought up more than once!!!

but you saw 4/5 words and once again span it deliberately out of context

why do you keep lying... or trying to deliberately mislead people....

as with the other example tonight, I doubt whether you will apologise.... you should, and its bang out of order.... but i doubt you will....

why should people believe you when you get caught out and don't acknowledge your mistakes..

see... at best its misleading.... at worst its a flat out lie!!!

and time and time and time again you do it!!!!

why should people give you the benefit of the doubt???

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Lmao

So CLCC you cant be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers and you cant name them

Or cant tell a time limit or will it be lump-sum of powers or will it be one every month or year

I get it CLCC you dont like to challenge the Tories you have them as master

Can you be 100% sure they wont take away powers from Holyrood ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Lmao

So CLCC you cant be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers and you cant name them

Or cant tell a time limit or will it be lump-sum of powers or will it be one every month or year

I get it CLCC you dont like to challenge the Tories you have them as master

Can you be 100% sure they wont take away powers from Holyrood ?"

What powers are being taken?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Lmao

So CLCC you cant be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers and you cant name them

Or cant tell a time limit or will it be lump-sum of powers or will it be one every month or year

I get it CLCC you dont like to challenge the Tories you have them as master

Can you be 100% sure they wont take away powers from Holyrood ?

What powers are being taken? "

Jesus christ can you be 100% sure they will not take back powers from Holyrood ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Nice try Fabio at misleading people

Corbyn has found his own Labour slogan on immigration just like the others

You going to deny Labour have not said this in the past " control on immigration" and "British jobs for British workers"

Face it Fabio Labour are just as bad as the Tories and UKIP sick fucks that blame immigration

When those people help the economy

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Lmao

So CLCC you cant be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers and you cant name them

Or cant tell a time limit or will it be lump-sum of powers or will it be one every month or year

I get it CLCC you dont like to challenge the Tories you have them as master

Can you be 100% sure they wont take away powers from Holyrood ?

What powers are being taken?

Jesus christ can you be 100% sure they will not take back powers from Holyrood ?"

I am as sure that they won't as you are that the Scottish government won't close every hospital and every school in Scotland.

We have has 8 years of Tory Prime Ministers. In that time, how many powers have Scotland lost?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Lmao

CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

see kinky... you talking about misleading people... but in this thread I never heard a denial that you deliberately left words out to make a point...

like i said... at best its misleading, at worst its flat out lying...

you were corrected on the quote with the words you left out...

I never saw a retraction, or an acknowledgement from you that you had gotten the quote wrong....

same with the corbyn quote.... you decided to take a quote out of context and run with it...

again... are you misleading people or flat out lying to people.....

see... whatever my political persuasion, if you are going to quote people then you take the ENTIRE quote!!!!

its really bad and out of order to take words out of context! you do an entire conversation a disservice by misleading people (at best)

thats why most honourable people will hold up their hands and acknowledge there mistake..... thats why i don't expect one from you!

you are more interested in "rosy eyed blame everyone for everything" nationalism that it is telling people the truth......

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Lmao

CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?"

And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Lmao

CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? "

You answered with a question mow go back and answer my questions i know they are gard but do try lol hehehehe

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Fabio is it too hard to say Holyrood?

So Fabio did Labour use these slogans " control on immgration" and " British jobs for British workers "

Like i said Corbyn has found his own slogan by blaming immigration

Labour Tory and UKIP all sick as fuck trying to blame immgration

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Nice try Fabio at misleading people

y"

me misleading people.....

the only person in the thread who has mislead anyone is the person who quoted this..... for the purpose of a rant,,

"UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh"

So what do they mean by Edinbrugh ?

It that Holyrood or the Scottish office where Mundell is

Oh wait none of you would even thinkto challenge that yoon love to be telt from their masters in London "

when the full quote is this... which the quote relates to ALL the devolved administrations

""UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh, belfast and cardiff"

so again.... was it a mistake? of which i yet have to hear an acknowledgement of.... or was it deliberate flat out lie just so you could get a dig in?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Oh Fabio mind answering these

Fabio is it too hard to say Holyrood?

So Fabio did Labour use these slogans " control on immgration" and " British jobs for British workers " ?

Am just saying Corbyn has found his own slogan by blaming immigration

Labour Tory and UKIP all sick as fuck trying to blame immgration

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Lmao

CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't?

You answered with a question mow go back and answer my questions i know they are gard but do try lol hehehehe "

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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The Tories said the wouldnt cut child tax credits

They lied in that correct ?

Seems we have people on here claiming to be Labour men but really Tory lovers lol

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow


"

Lmao the Tories said they werent going to cut child tax credits that was a lie correct ?"

The SNP said they would abolish the council tax....and they didn't

The SNP said they would wipe out student debt.....and it has doubled

The SNP said at the last election they wouldn't raise income tax....and they raised income tax.

The SNP said they would cut classroom sizes....and they've increased

The SNP said they would scrap student loans.....and instead they've cut bursaries and grants, increasing the number of loans that have to be taken out.

The SNP announced a £500m fund for small businesses....but hasn't given them a single penny.

I've got plenty more

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?"

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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So again i have to school you lol

In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax

Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Oh Fabio mind answering these

Fabio is it too hard to say Holyrood?

"

I am so sorry that the govt spokeperson used the 3 capitals for the 3 devolved administrations... i'll slap him down especially for you!!!

my god how petty!!! seriously!!!


"So Fabio did Labour use these slogans " control on immgration" and " British jobs for British workers " ?

"

yes they did.... do you know long ago the line "british jobs for british workers" was actually used.... (don't worry, unlike you i research the answers to the questions i pose) it was back in 2007!!!!

salmond said "oil would be $120 per barrel" and "the refenedum would be a once in a generation vote" in 2015..... is that going to be hung around his and the snp's necks as long?


"Am just saying Corbyn has found his own slogan by blaming immigration

Labour Tory and UKIP all sick as fuck trying to blame immgration"

please find me a speech where corbyn has ever blamed immigration, because I have looked up an down and i couldn't.... in fact he is about as pro immigration as labour leaders get, he may not be the most pro EU person ever, but he certainly isn't anti immigration...

oh... and if you want to make slanderous accusions like that... remember the last one that did ended up a few weeks ago having to make a sizeable donation to a charity of corbyns choice... which ironically happened to be a pro immigration charity!!!

now... back to mind....

so have you been misinforming people deliberately by leaving out key words in quotes????

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Also its amazing the amount of times you attack the Tories they are people in here defend the Tories or try and deflect that by mentioning SNP bad

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow


"

So again i have to school you lol

In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax

Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh"

You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will.

Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them...

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Ok Fabio have it your way did Corbyn say " brexit must stop immigrants undercutting wages"

I told Fabio Corbyn has found his own nasty fucking way of blaming immigrations

Just like Milliband And Brown when they said " control on immigrations" " British jobs for British workers "

Sick as fuck!!

Labour Tory and UKIP all sick fucks

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"

So again i have to school you lol

In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax

Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh

You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will.

Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them... "

I am correct though thats what happened ?

The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shut up kinky with your anti Scottish nonsense just because someone doesn't agree with you.

As us Scottish say "your patter is pish".

Post after post of utter garbage with everyone providing suffeciant information to your answers.

As a Scotsman who voted for independence you views and comments do not represent us Scots on here.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

So again i have to school you lol

In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax

Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh

You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will.

Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them...

I am correct though thats what happened ?

The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos "

So when is it happening ???

As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"

So again i have to school you lol

In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax

Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh

You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will.

Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them...

I am correct though thats what happened ?

The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos

So when is it happening ???

As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!!"

Wow a Labour man with baws to ask about the council tax

Greenoakmale did Scottish Labour branch join the Scottish Tory branch to vote against scrapping the council tax and because of that the SNP couldnt scrap it ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

So come on Kinky, what powers are the Tories taking, and have the Tories given powers to the Scottish Parliament or taken them away?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

So again i have to school you lol

In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax

Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh

You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will.

Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them...

I am correct though thats what happened ?

The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos

So when is it happening ???

As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!!"

i think the saddest thing in the thread is that kinky as been given the chance on 3 seperate occasions to rufute the fact they deliberately left bits out of a quote to intentionally mislead......

they haven't.... so we can only assume they basically lied to all the people reading on purpose...

like i said... bang out of order

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Here is the whole fucking truth try and deny it eh

Scottish Labour branch join the Scottish Tory branch to vote against scrapping the council tax and because of that the SNP couldnt scrap it ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So come on Kinky, what powers are the Tories taking, and have the Tories given powers to the Scottish Parliament or taken them away?"

Right, yet ANOTHER question that kinky can't answer!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"So come on Kinky, what powers are the Tories taking, and have the Tories given powers to the Scottish Parliament or taken them away?"

Fucking hell your still fucking going i thoufht you shat out last night

can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take back powers from Holyrood ?

And what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit ?

Stop delfecting and answer these very questions that you seem shit feart to answer i wonder why lmao

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So come on Kinky, what powers are the Tories taking, and have the Tories given powers to the Scottish Parliament or taken them away?

Right, yet ANOTHER question that kinky can't answer! "

Still can't answer it!

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Here is the whole fucking truth try and deny it eh

"

i'll tell you the reason why "the truth" is so important...

if you lied on purpose, which you are basically admitting to by leaving out important info from something you are quoting.... simple question

why should people even believe you on anything else?

whatever you post that nagging thought of "are they telling me the whole truth?" is always going to linger with you......

you have in effect undermined your own arguement and every discussion you have in future by basically lying.....

you can actually help yourself by admitting to it, but like i have said, I doubt you will.........

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Fabio is this the truth ?

Scottish Labour branch join the Scottish Tory branch to vote against scrapping the council tax and because of that the SNP couldnt scrap it

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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CLCC

can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take back powers from Holyrood ?

And what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

Kinky doesn't give a shit about the truth. They even lie about the the Scottish Parliament's electoral system.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take back powers from Holyrood ?

And what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit ?"

I've answered these! Why ask them again?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Btw Fabio

Nothing to say in this ?Corbyn say " brexit must stop immigrants undercutting wages"

I told Fabio Corbyn has found his own nasty fucking way of blaming immigrations

Just like Milliband And Brown when they said " control on immigrations" " British jobs for British workers

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs."

See Kinky, already answered.

Now it's YOUR turn.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"CLCC

can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take back powers from Holyrood ?

And what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit ?

I've answered these! Why ask them again?"

No you never

You admitted that Westminster could steal devolved powers

And am sure you will agree that you can be sure that the Tories will not take back devolved powers ?

You never once answered this question qhat new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit name each one ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs.

See Kinky, already answered.

Now it's YOUR turn."

We are all waiting!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC

You admitted that Westminster could steal devolved powers

And am sure you will agree that you cant be sure that the Tories will not take back devolved powers ?

You never once answered this question qhat new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit name each one ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Lets have a laugh

CLCC is Scotland part of England ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Lets keep up with a laugh

Scottish Labour branch mp Ian Murray tells Scottish Labour branch for Single Market fringe that only person smiling after passage in Corbyn’s speech about wage depression by “importing cheap labour” would be Nigel Farage

Lmao offfttt Labour couldnt agree on the xolour of shite lmao

In fighting going on and Corbyn doing is best inpression of Nigel Farage be ashamed of Labour

They couldnt even get Keir Hardie's name right they said it was Keir Hardy lmao

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Btw Fabio

Nothing to say in this ?Corbyn say " brexit must stop immigrants undercutting wages""

i answered this further up and yet again you take something out of context to twist a point that you cant twist....

it is part of a campaign where what was happening at the post office was they they were bring in staff from the EU and paying them much less than their Unionised colleagues.......

the the campaign is two fold...

1) pay the EU casuals the same rate as the unionised workers....

2) don't use the pay the EU casuals were getting to keep down the pay of the unionised colleagues.....

if you have ever watched PMQ it is a subject he has actually brought up more than once!!!


"I told Fabio Corbyn has found his own nasty fucking way of blaming immigrations "

as i said... please find me a corbyn anti immigrant speech... because i looked thru google and honestly couldn't find one...

I am not corbyns greatest fan... but that he is "anti immigrant" isn't a charge i would lay at his doorstep.....


"Just like Milliband And Brown when they said " control on immigrations" " British jobs for British workers"

genuine question.. how long a shelf life does a quote have when it relates to policy... because like i said and you failed to acknowledge the "british jobs for british workers" line was used in 2007....

if that line is still valid then why is the salmond "this is a once in a generation vote" said in 2015 not valid....

if you have to accept one the on in 2007 we can accept the one in 2015? agreed? remember "once in a generation".....

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Wow Fabio you are actually defending Corbyns comments blaming immigrants for undercutting wages

Even Ian Murray Scottish Labour branch mp says Nigel Farage would be very happy with Corbyn saying " Brexit must stop immigration undercutting wages"

Its sick as fuck trying to blame immigrants

Ah well Corbyn loses more votes in Scotland lmao

The big JC the messiah is a freud!

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? "

Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wow Fabio you are actually defending Corbyns comments blaming immigrants for undercutting wages

Even Ian Murray Scottish Labour branch mp says Nigel Farage would be very happy with Corbyn saying " Brexit must stop immigration undercutting wages"

Its sick as fuck trying to blame immigrants

Ah well Corbyn loses more votes in Scotland lmao

The big JC the messiah is a freud!

"

he Certainly is !

But Beware McDonald !

I suspect he is the Power !

Very Scary !

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Lmao ducking embarrssing

Ok lets narrow it doon

CLCC you said Scotlands getting new powers after brexit ok then name each new power ?

Can you be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers ?

Also can tou be 100% sure the Tories will not take any devolved powers back to Westminster ?

I cant see the rage i you lot shit feart to answer

And what more worrying is in here people claim to vote Labour the so called party of devolution yet same people couldnt care less about devolution lmao

Anti Scottish people on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lmao ducking embarrssing

Ok lets narrow it doon

CLCC you said Scotlands getting new powers after brexit ok then name each new power ?

Can you be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers ?

Also can tou be 100% sure the Tories will not take any devolved powers back to Westminster ?

I cant see the rage i you lot shit feart to answer

And what more worrying is in here people claim to vote Labour the so called party of devolution yet same people couldnt care less about devolution lmao

Anti Scottish people on here "

I'm not anti Scotish just Pro English , let's both have our Independence / Freedom ! Snag is if the English had a National party like the SNP ie an ENP

You can bet a years Wages it would be Instantly accused of been Racist !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It would have a bit of an uphill struggle divorcing itself from the past but might be a breath of fresh air in England, in the right terms, ie, not racist. Might turn out to be more like a civil war (of words), though, vs Westminster.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Id like to see an ENP with a Frank Field / and Nigel combination , tho the latter maybe too divisive for Many !

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers?

Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's."

How many more times do I need to post the answers?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs.

See Kinky, already answered.

Now it's YOUR turn.

We are all waiting! "

Kinky getting schooled again!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Lmao CLCC

You admitted that Westminster could steal devolved powers

And am sure you will agree that you cant be sure that the Tories will not take back devolved powers ?

You never once answered this question qhat new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit name each one?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers?

Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's.

How many more times do I need to post the answers? "

At least once more by the looks of it!

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Lmao

CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? "

Bump!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC

You admitted that Westminster could steal devolved powers

And am sure you will agree that you cant be sure that the Tories will not take back devolved powers ?

You never once answered this question what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit name each one?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs.

See Kinky, already answered.

Now it's YOUR turn.

We are all waiting!

Kinky getting schooled again! "

Oh look, I HAVE answered it here

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Lmao

CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't?

Bump! "

So how is kinky sure that the Scottish government won't close all the schools and hospitals????

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC You admitted that Westminster could steal devolved powers

And am sure you will agree that you cant be sure that the Tories will not take back devolved powers ?

You never once answered this question what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit name each one?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs.

See Kinky, already answered.

Now it's YOUR turn.

We are all waiting!

Kinky getting schooled again!

Oh look, I HAVE answered it here"

Is this post invisible to Kinky?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Lmao

CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't?

Bump!

So how is kinky sure that the Scottish government won't close all the schools and hospitals????"

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC you are piss poor at this

CLCC You admitted that Westminster could steal devolved powers

And am sure you will agree that you cant be sure that the Tories will not take back devolved powers ?

You never once answered this question what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit name each one?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ?

Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?

You haven't answered my question on this thread.

You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London.

You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland.

You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN.

You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer.

The list goes on.

Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something.

The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone.

What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do.

Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above?

If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs.

See Kinky, already answered.

Now it's YOUR turn.

We are all waiting!

Kinky getting schooled again!

Oh look, I HAVE answered it here

Is this post invisible to Kinky? "

It must be invisible. Either that or kinky is just trolling.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Ok

CLCC you said Scotland will get new powers after brexit ok

Can you name all these new powers ? When is the time limit on when Scotland will get these new powers ?

You see you are stuck on believing what yiu are being told without even challenibg it just hapoy to accept what the Tories tell you

I gave you a clear example why the Tories cant be trusted ie they claimed they wouldnt cut child tax credits

So the floor is yours to Name each new power Scotland will get or do not not like challenging the Tories ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers?

Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's.

How many more times do I need to post the answers?

At least once more by the looks of it!"

Oh look, already answered!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC no you never

You made the claim Scotland getting new powers after brexit

So can you name all these new powers ? When is the time limit on when Scotland will get these new powers ?

In your wee fucked up world CLCC is no one got the right to challange this ?

You just happy to take the word of the Tories never challenge just bent over

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers?

Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's.

How many more times do I need to post the answers?

At least once more by the looks of it!

Oh look, already answered!"

Can kinky read?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit

So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers?

Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's.

How many more times do I need to post the answers?

At least once more by the looks of it!

Oh look, already answered!

Can kinky read? "

I guess they can't!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC you really are shit at this

Your the one that claimed Scotland is getting new powers after brexit

Yet you cant name a single power or what time limit after brexit these so called new powers will be delivered to Scotland

You have fuck all clue and are taking the Tories word you aint no socialist you sound more right wing

And sound Anti Scottish where yiu bekieve England trumps Scotland , Wales and NI

I bet you agreed with the poll tax being forced on Scotland first eh?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit

So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ? "

Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot

You are the worst kind of poster on here

You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth

You just switch all the time

There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up.

You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab.

The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH

You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party.

Again you are a Zealot

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"And it's good night from me

They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!

Ah now interesting you bring this up

So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit

Go on name them all one by one

When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers?

Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's.

How many more times do I need to post the answers?

At least once more by the looks of it!

Oh look, already answered!

Can kinky read?

I guess they can't! "

Or maybe neither of them understand it!

Maybe they can't comprehend that until we know which agencies and policies we are staying in, no one know which powers are remaining in Brussels, and which are returning.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit

So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ?

Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot

You are the worst kind of poster on here

You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth

You just switch all the time

There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up.

You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab.

The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH

You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party.

Again you are a Zealot "

Ok what an i wrong on ?

Double standards on here

CLCC demands i answer hin but when i ask a question to his statement no answer

Yes there is a Scottish forum are you telling me i am not welcome on this fourm ?

Oh ps i dont need a wee gang to back me up lol

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Wft CLCC why in the fuck you swriously teying to bring my wife into this ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit

So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ?

Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot

You are the worst kind of poster on here

You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth

You just switch all the time

There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up.

You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab.

The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH

You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party.

Again you are a Zealot

Ok what an i wrong on ?

Double standards on here

CLCC demands i answer hin but when i ask a question to his statement no answer

Yes there is a Scottish forum are you telling me i am not welcome on this fourm ?

Oh ps i dont need a wee gang to back me up lol"

You obviously cannot read mate again deflection

You cant even understand the point of the Scottish forum

As for CLCC,FABIO, or anyone else they have answered all your questions tenfold

But you never seem to answer any question on here.

Again google Zealot read the description of a Zealot and I defy you to deny that its a perfect description of you.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Lmao nope one one of my questions answered lol

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow


"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit

So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ?

Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot

You are the worst kind of poster on here

You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth

You just switch all the time

There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up.

You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab.

The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH

You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party.

Again you are a Zealot "

There's one less who will back them up. One of them left last week after being shown up for their bigotry.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit

So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ?

Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot

You are the worst kind of poster on here

You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth

You just switch all the time

There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up.

You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab.

The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH

You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party.

Again you are a Zealot

There's one less who will back them up. One of them left last week after being shown up for their bigotry."

So what are you suggesting? I hope your not saying people on here and ganging up to bully people into leaving

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This forum is definatly getting increasingly left wing Pro Labour !

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"This forum is definatly getting increasingly left wing Pro Labour !"

actually.... me personally... i am not as pro right wing as TM's conservative party... and i am not as pro left wing as Corbyn would like his labour party to be....

but i am one pro thing.... I am pro TRUTH.... and pro FACT;-) and that is where kinky falls down...

so if people deliberately lie... like kinky did in this thread

or deliberately mislead people... like kinky did in this thread

or deliberately take words out of quote or context.... like kinky did in this thread

then i will call out ANYONE.... I don't care... if you cant resepct the facts or the truth, then what is the point!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Fabio pro truth and you never lie eh

Ok lets test that Fabio

1.Westminster have the power to take powers away from devolved parilaments ?

2. Can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take any devolved powers back to Westminster?

3. What new powers is Scotland getting after brexit name each one ?

4. What time limit is there in getting these new powers after brexit ?

Now lets see you Fabio answer all 4 truthfully

Now no skipping answer all of them answered oh wise Fabio

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

So again i have to school you lol

In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax

Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh

You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will.

Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them...

I am correct though thats what happened ?

The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos

So when is it happening ???

As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!!

Wow a Labour man with baws to ask about the council tax

Greenoakmale did Scottish Labour branch join the Scottish Tory branch to vote against scrapping the council tax and because of that the SNP couldnt scrap it ?"

The snp have had a majority so why did they need labour or any other support ???

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

No point in arguing with this bigoted zealot. They are too ignorant of the subject at hand to have any kind of conversation with. They repeatedly ask the same question, and completely ignore the answers given. I don't think they understand how a forum works.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No point in arguing with this bigoted zealot. They are too ignorant of the subject at hand to have any kind of conversation with. They repeatedly ask the same question, and completely ignore the answers given. I don't think they understand how a forum works."
How can they be a Biggited Zealot when they Support English Independence ?

I like them .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh "

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!"

Did even bother to answer any of my question try again

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!

Did even bother to answer any of my question try again

"

Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre.

Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want.

Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions.

At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in.

How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread.

You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!

Did even bother to answer any of my question try again

Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre.

Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want.

Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions.

At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in.

How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread.

You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded."

Whatever you say chief lol

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!

Did even bother to answer any of my question try again

Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre.

Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want.

Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions.

At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in.

How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread.

You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded."

We don't agree on much, but we agree on this.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!

Did even bother to answer any of my question try again

Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre.

Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want.

Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions.

At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in.

How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread.

You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded."

We don't agree on much, but we agree on this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!

Did even bother to answer any of my question try again

Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre.

Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want.

Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions.

At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in.

How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread.

You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded.

We don't agree on much, but we agree on this."

Actually you would be surprised at how much we do agree on.

Just most of the time you have posted very eloquently and with expert knowledge there is no need for me to post.

Plus I like to lurk and learn, there are a lot of very knowledgeable people that post in this forum.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

[Removed by poster at 11/03/18 12:59:28]

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Shag and get it over with

Lmao broon nosing if i have ever saw it lol

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Fabio pro truth and you never lie eh

Ok lets test that Fabio

1.Westminster have the power to take powers away from devolved parilaments ?"

they could do it... but they would have to repeal BOTH the scotland act AND the devolution act, which would not only take away ALL the national assemblies, it would take away all the "region deals" as well.. such as west midland, greater manchester, london, ect...

there is no way on gods green the tories would have take many votes to win that vote!!!!

and before you want to spin what i say....

THERE IS NO WAY THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE THAT MANY VOTES TO WIN THAT VOTE... THEY WOULD NEED THE SUPPORT OF "REGIONAL PARTIES" IT WOULD BE A CASE OF SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT!


"2. Can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take any devolved powers back to Westminster?"

again in the 20 years this has been going so far no UK government has taken away ANY devolved power......

the last uk govenrment have had the last 7 years to take away powers if they wanted to.....

as of april.... this uk government are giving the scottish administration a whole new bunch of devolved powers......

so why go thru all that if they were really going to take them away!!!!!

you aren't paranoid... you are "next level" paranoid


"3. What new powers is Scotland getting after brexit name each one ?"

there are 111 powers the EU have that will be coming back on brexit leave day.... at the moment my colleagues in the civil service are working on 84 of them being devolved to them and LEAVE DAY PLUS 1.....

again... just so you don't spin...84 NEW POWERS OF POLICY ON LEAVE DAY PLUS ONE.....

for example... a whole load of european set enviromental rules will be given straight to the devolved administrations...


"4. What time limit is there in getting these new powers after brexit ?"

as i said... 84 of them will be given to you on leave day plus 1.....


"Now lets see you Fabio answer all 4 truthfully

Now no skipping answer all of them answered oh wise Fabio "

I think i did.... but lets not you or me decide that.... let the people of the thread decide..... if i told the truth... please just say i did...

if i haven't ... say i have deceived kinky....

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

so kinky... since i answered yours....

lets see if you will actually change the habits of a lifetime and actually answer someone elses...

see, i am one pro thing.... I am pro TRUTH.... and pro FACT;-)

I like to think that my word is my bond, and my word is my currency and that if it one thing i can be held upon it is giving Correct fact and the right context.....

so here is my challenge to you kinky

my word is my bond... is yours?

so kinky, just admit to the people that you deliberately lied in this thread?

so kinky, just admit to the people that you deliberately mislead people in this thread

so kinky, just admit to the people that you deliberately took words out of quote or context.... in this thread

see... i don't think you will...... see, i think the point scoring is more important to you that the honour of which you talk about things...

and like i said your words don't mean as much if people have to think "well are they telling the truth" after every comment......

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Ok Fabio

1.So you admit Westminster could take devolved powers and they intent to hold powers ie power grab lol

2. In those 20 years has brexit ever happened ?

3. You didnt answer you waffled and didnt name one single new power Scotland will get after brexit

4. You didnt answer when the time limit is in getting these new powers

I will wait to get these answers thank you very much

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh

I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system.

As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!!

So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing.

With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!

Did even bother to answer any of my question try again

"

I did aswer !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the BBC interesting wording

"UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh"

So what do they mean by Edinbrugh ?

It that Holyrood or the Scottish office where Mundell is

Oh wait none of you would even thinkto challenge that yoon love to be telt from their masters in London

ffs.... that is a cherrypicked quote, if you are going to be selective then don't be disingenious....

the actual quote, because they were talking about ALL the devolved governments...

"UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh, BELFAST AND CARDIFF"

nice of you to leave out the last 3 words to try and make a point that doesn't really need to be made...."

Fabio

I have quoted the same thing until I am blue in the face.

No politician has made a statement or has there been any papers produced to say the UK government want to change anything.

If you read the right papers in Scotland that make up the grievances as they go along.

Obviously kinky is just parroting the paranoid pish he reads in the Sunday Herald ..wings and the national.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Ok Greenoakmalw where was the answers to theses questions

"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok Greenoakmalw where was the answers to theses questions

"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

"

What was gonna be the replacement for the council tax ???

What ever the proposed replacement was and I admit i have no idea what was proposed

was it worth supporting? ??

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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"Ok Greenoakmalw where was the answers to theses questions

"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

What was gonna be the replacement for the council tax ???

What ever the proposed replacement was and I admit i have no idea what was proposed

was it worth supporting? ??"

Still not answered my two questions

Try again

"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok Greenoakmalw where was the answers to theses questions

"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

What was gonna be the replacement for the council tax ???

What ever the proposed replacement was and I admit i have no idea what was proposed

was it worth supporting? ??

Still not answered my two questions

Try again

"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

"

Before scrapping anything there would have to been a proposal for the replacement !!!

So tell me what was the soooper dooooper replacement gonna be ????

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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No no Greenoakmale

You aint answering my questions

"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ?

Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

thought i would get this in before kinky uses the excuse of the thread closing to not answer..

kinky still has not denied deliberately misleading people by leaving words out of a quote... has still not denied knowing lying in posts.. has still not denied taking quotes out of context...

just notice what they will do is in fact just keep pointing questions at people but fail to answer those pointed at them.... i bet this is what they will do exactly after i post this.....

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"thought i would get this in before kinky uses the excuse of the thread closing to not answer..

kinky still has not denied deliberately misleading people by leaving words out of a quote... has still not denied knowing lying in posts.. has still not denied taking quotes out of context...

just notice what they will do is in fact just keep pointing questions at people but fail to answer those pointed at them.... i bet this is what they will do exactly after i post this.....

"

Ok Fabio i aint misleading or lying

Oh and would you stop bring my wife into this

Its the male half so stop with the "they" bullshit

Not my fault you want this shit buried so no one sees the truth

Oh boohoo your wee beloved UK aint all its cracked up too be eh lol

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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Oh Fabio

1.So you admit Westminster could take devolved powers and they intent to hold powers ie power grab lol

2. In those 20 years has brexit ever happened ?

3. You didnt answer you waffled and didnt name one single new power Scotland will get after brexit

4. You didnt answer when the time limit is in getting these new powers

I will wait to get these answers thank you very much

So still waiting on 3 and 4 answers

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Ok Fabio i aint misleading or lying

Oh and would you stop bring my wife into this

Its the male half so stop with the "they" bullshit

Not my fault you want this shit buried so no one sees the truth

Oh boohoo your wee beloved UK aint all its cracked up too be eh lol

"

i am so glad that i get to end this on 175.... although i almost positive somewhere in the "land of kinky" THEY (and i come back to that in a moment) probably have left this open so "THEY" can have the last word.....

a few things....

a) normally if you put down things that you have been corrected on or mislead people, you make a correction or acknowledge the fact you made a mistake.... funny enough, you did neither!!!

"so do you acknowledge you left words out of a quote to mislead people....." (actually scrap that... you wont! i already know the answer!!!)

b) in your grammar rant over the word "they" being used... funny enough you are once again wrong as it CAN be used as a singular if I don't want to use he or she.....

my source... the oxford english dictionary... (tried looking for a glasgow/eninburgh/perth/aberdeen version.. couldn't find one!)

"it has become common in speech and in informal writing to substitute the third-person plural pronouns they, them, their, and themselves"

third person... so he .. or she... or in your case, paranoid nationalistic weirdo....

and on that note... i bid you, adieu!

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