FabSwingers.com
 

FabSwingers.com > Forums > Politics > Take back control, but not yet

Take back control, but not yet

Jump to: Newest in thread

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBC

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBC"

If the government don't want to see Tommy Robinson being elected as an MEP and representing the UK in the European Parliament they better get us out of the EU before the MEP elections in May.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Well, you could always celebrate my birthday on March 29 instead.

See, every cloud has a silver lining.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBC

If the government don't want to see Tommy Robinson being elected as an MEP and representing the UK in the European Parliament they better get us out of the EU before the MEP elections in May. "

For ukip I presume?

Thought you said that ex bnp, edl were barred from being kipper candidates..

And be honest how many votes do you think he would get, would he get yours?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBC"

I think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

It was only two weeks ago Centaur was telling us the UK was “very well prepared” for a March 29 exit, so I’m not inclined to put any money on his Loxley prediction.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBCI think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum."

I don’t want another referendum. I just want the quitters to get on and deliver what you promised voters in 2016.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBCI think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum."

Some want one, not all..

Though whether they will grant an extension if they are not prepared to move on the legal standing of the backstop is another issue..

Moves afoot from the hardliners getting scared that Parliament is about to properly take back control perhaps or is reality setting in that another referendum would wipe out the leave vote?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBCI think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum.

Some want one, not all..

Though whether they will grant an extension if they are not prepared to move on the legal standing of the backstop is another issue..

Moves afoot from the hardliners getting scared that Parliament is about to properly take back control perhaps or is reality setting in that another referendum would wipe out the leave vote?

"

i think another referendum would increase the leave vote but there is no point as we would be exactly where we are now just 9 months down the line.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBCI think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum.

Some want one, not all..

Though whether they will grant an extension if they are not prepared to move on the legal standing of the backstop is another issue..

Moves afoot from the hardliners getting scared that Parliament is about to properly take back control perhaps or is reality setting in that another referendum would wipe out the leave vote?

"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBC

If the government don't want to see Tommy Robinson being elected as an MEP and representing the UK in the European Parliament they better get us out of the EU before the MEP elections in May.

For ukip I presume?

Thought you said that ex bnp, edl were barred from being kipper candidates..

And be honest how many votes do you think he would get, would he get yours?

"

There is nothing stopping him standing as an independent if he wanted to.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rench letterCouple  over a year ago

Chorley,

Just heard the Irish prime minister that they are not going give way on the Irish back stop the English Government created this mess. The morons in her cabinet.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBCI think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum.

Some want one, not all..

Though whether they will grant an extension if they are not prepared to move on the legal standing of the backstop is another issue..

Moves afoot from the hardliners getting scared that Parliament is about to properly take back control perhaps or is reality setting in that another referendum would wipe out the leave vote?

i think another referendum would increase the leave vote but there is no point as we would be exactly where we are now just 9 months down the line."

Whilst I doubt your assumption if that were to be the case then yes, ground hog day all over again..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBCI think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum.

Some want one, not all..

Though whether they will grant an extension if they are not prepared to move on the legal standing of the backstop is another issue..

Moves afoot from the hardliners getting scared that Parliament is about to properly take back control perhaps or is reality setting in that another referendum would wipe out the leave vote?

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal."

It will like a no deal never be allowed to happen..

It smacks of desperation and a bit of worry by Mogg..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal."

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Champagne is on ice brexitshit boys or should I say The English sparkling wine is officially on ice ...

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means? "

Fabio it's remainers in Parliament who are breaking and bending the rules first to suit their own agenda. First it was the remain Speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence to allow an amendment on a government motion against the advise of his clerks and other Parliamentary advisors. Now remain backbenchers are plotting with Bercow to allow backbenchers to bring forward primary legislation to reverse the EU withdrawal bill to stop Brexit. A clear breach of the long established rules as only the government can be allowed to bring forward primary legislation. If backbenchers are allowed to bring forward primary legislation then there Is no point in having any government in future. If you want to see who is breaking the rules and being anti democratic you need to look a lot closer to home.

In the face of this appalling behaviour by the Speaker Bercow and remainers then the government need to start fighting fire with fire and need to start playing dirty in return. The government need to prorogue parliament to make sure Brexit happens and I'd fully support them in doing it.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBCI think she said 2 weeks so not the 9 months you remainers want so you would have time for a second referendum.

Some want one, not all..

Though whether they will grant an extension if they are not prepared to move on the legal standing of the backstop is another issue..

Moves afoot from the hardliners getting scared that Parliament is about to properly take back control perhaps or is reality setting in that another referendum would wipe out the leave vote?

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

It will like a no deal never be allowed to happen..

It smacks of desperation and a bit of worry by Mogg.. "

No it's sending a message to remainers that they can't stop a no deal and they can't reverse Brexit.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Project Fear.

That’s what you called No Deal in the referendum.

Don’t be silly, you said.

Now it’s like a wet dream.

Take back control?

Totally out of control, more like.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means?

Fabio it's remainers in Parliament who are breaking and bending the rules first to suit their own agenda. First it was the remain Speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence to allow an amendment on a government motion against the advise of his clerks and other Parliamentary advisors. Now remain backbenchers are plotting with Bercow to allow backbenchers to bring forward primary legislation to reverse the EU withdrawal bill to stop Brexit. A clear breach of the long established rules as only the government can be allowed to bring forward primary legislation. If backbenchers are allowed to bring forward primary legislation then there Is no point in having any government in future. If you want to see who is breaking the rules and being anti democratic you need to look a lot closer to home.

In the face of this appalling behaviour by the Speaker Bercow and remainers then the government need to start fighting fire with fire and need to start playing dirty in return. The government need to prorogue parliament to make sure Brexit happens and I'd fully support them in doing it. "

you used that same line to "bait and switch" the last time.....

so i am going to give the same reply i gave then....

nice speech.... totally irrelivant! totally swerving the topic that is at hand.... classic centy "bait and switch" when you know nothing about the subject....

so... time to educate

may said to parliament that on tuesday (Edit: i fibbed... it was on monday!) her motion with regard to plan b , whatever motion they put forward, would be an amendable motion.....

various people on all sides have put forward amendments to that motion, for example... one is that a time limit date be put on the backstop, another is being able to extend article 50, another is to legally take no deal off the table...

moggsy is saying that if the amendment, legally done and all of the rules followed, passes with a majority in the house in a vote that is legally administered and rules adhered to , that he doesn't like.... or may doesn't like, should ignore that amendment by closing parliament so that can't become part of the law.....

again..... hardly democratic is it!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means?

Fabio it's remainers in Parliament who are breaking and bending the rules first to suit their own agenda. First it was the remain Speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence to allow an amendment on a government motion against the advise of his clerks and other Parliamentary advisors. Now remain backbenchers are plotting with Bercow to allow backbenchers to bring forward primary legislation to reverse the EU withdrawal bill to stop Brexit. A clear breach of the long established rules as only the government can be allowed to bring forward primary legislation. If backbenchers are allowed to bring forward primary legislation then there Is no point in having any government in future. If you want to see who is breaking the rules and being anti democratic you need to look a lot closer to home.

In the face of this appalling behaviour by the Speaker Bercow and remainers then the government need to start fighting fire with fire and need to start playing dirty in return. The government need to prorogue parliament to make sure Brexit happens and I'd fully support them in doing it. "

Advice is just that, advice, not an order is it?

It's down to the person charged to make a certain decision as to whether to follow the advice or not.

Is he not allowed to make up his own mind now?

Are things never allowed to evolve, must they remain unchanged because it doesn't suit your agenda?

If it's never happened before then it shouldn't be allowed to ever happen?

Interesting logic

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBC

If the government don't want to see Tommy Robinson being elected as an MEP and representing the UK in the European Parliament they better get us out of the EU before the MEP elections in May.

For ukip I presume?

Thought you said that ex bnp, edl were barred from being kipper candidates..

And be honest how many votes do you think he would get, would he get yours?

There is nothing stopping him standing as an independent if he wanted to. "

Wouldn’t he still need a “party” under PR?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means?

Fabio it's remainers in Parliament who are breaking and bending the rules first to suit their own agenda. First it was the remain Speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence to allow an amendment on a government motion against the advise of his clerks and other Parliamentary advisors. Now remain backbenchers are plotting with Bercow to allow backbenchers to bring forward primary legislation to reverse the EU withdrawal bill to stop Brexit. A clear breach of the long established rules as only the government can be allowed to bring forward primary legislation. If backbenchers are allowed to bring forward primary legislation then there Is no point in having any government in future. If you want to see who is breaking the rules and being anti democratic you need to look a lot closer to home.

In the face of this appalling behaviour by the Speaker Bercow and remainers then the government need to start fighting fire with fire and need to start playing dirty in return. The government need to prorogue parliament to make sure Brexit happens and I'd fully support them in doing it.

Advice is just that, advice, not an order is it?

It's down to the person charged to make a certain decision as to whether to follow the advice or not.

Is he not allowed to make up his own mind now?

Are things never allowed to evolve, must they remain unchanged because it doesn't suit your agenda?

If it's never happened before then it shouldn't be allowed to ever happen?

Interesting logic "

Prorogation of Parliament that Rees Mogg suggested has happened before, last used in 1708, by Queen Anne so wouldn't be the first time. If it's been done before its not breaking the rules....Following your logic of course.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means?

Fabio it's remainers in Parliament who are breaking and bending the rules first to suit their own agenda. First it was the remain Speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence to allow an amendment on a government motion against the advise of his clerks and other Parliamentary advisors. Now remain backbenchers are plotting with Bercow to allow backbenchers to bring forward primary legislation to reverse the EU withdrawal bill to stop Brexit. A clear breach of the long established rules as only the government can be allowed to bring forward primary legislation. If backbenchers are allowed to bring forward primary legislation then there Is no point in having any government in future. If you want to see who is breaking the rules and being anti democratic you need to look a lot closer to home.

In the face of this appalling behaviour by the Speaker Bercow and remainers then the government need to start fighting fire with fire and need to start playing dirty in return. The government need to prorogue parliament to make sure Brexit happens and I'd fully support them in doing it. "

Parliament will not be prorogued. On the other hand, kudos for the plastic aristocrat to have brought the word to the wider public.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means?

Fabio it's remainers in Parliament who are breaking and bending the rules first to suit their own agenda. First it was the remain Speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence to allow an amendment on a government motion against the advise of his clerks and other Parliamentary advisors. Now remain backbenchers are plotting with Bercow to allow backbenchers to bring forward primary legislation to reverse the EU withdrawal bill to stop Brexit. A clear breach of the long established rules as only the government can be allowed to bring forward primary legislation. If backbenchers are allowed to bring forward primary legislation then there Is no point in having any government in future. If you want to see who is breaking the rules and being anti democratic you need to look a lot closer to home.

In the face of this appalling behaviour by the Speaker Bercow and remainers then the government need to start fighting fire with fire and need to start playing dirty in return. The government need to prorogue parliament to make sure Brexit happens and I'd fully support them in doing it.

Advice is just that, advice, not an order is it?

It's down to the person charged to make a certain decision as to whether to follow the advice or not.

Is he not allowed to make up his own mind now?

Are things never allowed to evolve, must they remain unchanged because it doesn't suit your agenda?

If it's never happened before then it shouldn't be allowed to ever happen?

Interesting logic

Prorogation of Parliament that Rees Mogg suggested has happened before, last used in 1708, by Queen Anne so wouldn't be the first time. If it's been done before its not breaking the rules....Following your logic of course. "

According to institute for the government


"Most primary legislation is brought forward by the government, "

Suggesting some is brought forward by backbenchers.

So it’s not breaking the rules.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal."

Absolutely shameless.

You want to drag the Queen and get her to take sides.

Please carry on - I think the ordinary citizen will lynch you for dragging her into a mess of your making.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

if you are going to quote moggsy again, then at least know what you are in effect suggesting

that basically means shutting down parliament to stop a legally voted on amendment from becoming law to stop law....

thats not really "democratic" now is it??? is this what your "taking back control" really means?

Fabio it's remainers in Parliament who are breaking and bending the rules first to suit their own agenda. First it was the remain Speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence to allow an amendment on a government motion against the advise of his clerks and other Parliamentary advisors. Now remain backbenchers are plotting with Bercow to allow backbenchers to bring forward primary legislation to reverse the EU withdrawal bill to stop Brexit. A clear breach of the long established rules as only the government can be allowed to bring forward primary legislation. If backbenchers are allowed to bring forward primary legislation then there Is no point in having any government in future. If you want to see who is breaking the rules and being anti democratic you need to look a lot closer to home.

In the face of this appalling behaviour by the Speaker Bercow and remainers then the government need to start fighting fire with fire and need to start playing dirty in return. The government need to prorogue parliament to make sure Brexit happens and I'd fully support them in doing it.

Advice is just that, advice, not an order is it?

It's down to the person charged to make a certain decision as to whether to follow the advice or not.

Is he not allowed to make up his own mind now?

Are things never allowed to evolve, must they remain unchanged because it doesn't suit your agenda?

If it's never happened before then it shouldn't be allowed to ever happen?

Interesting logic

Prorogation of Parliament that Rees Mogg suggested has happened before, last used in 1708, by Queen Anne so wouldn't be the first time. If it's been done before its not breaking the rules....Following your logic of course. "

That's perfectly fine, I was just responding to your whiney moaning about Bercow

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

Absolutely shameless.

You want to drag the Queen and get her to take sides.

Please carry on - I think the ordinary citizen will lynch you for dragging her into a mess of your making."

The Queen is already involved, it was reported she backed Brexit during the EU referendum in 2016.

The Queen and Brexit has been all over the news tonight if you've been watching any of it? The news reports said the unwritten constitution of the UK is being stretched and tested by the likes of Speaker John Bercow, it's his behaviour which has dragged the opinion of the Queen deeper into this as all parts and players of the constitution may now have to come into play. The Queen released a public statement which many political commentators are interpreting as as a message about Brexit.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Indeed - she’s saying sort it out children, don’t involve me. Which is exactly what your superhero Mogg wants to do by her not-so-much a hand grenade but an atomic fecking bomb.

Don’t you think you have wrecked enough already, without wrecking a lady in her 90s, too?

Then again, empathy is not exactly in abundance among the lunatic fringe.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

More madness, this time the Conservative MP Daniel Kawczynski.

He has written to the Polish Government asking that it vetos any request from the UK to the EU to delay Article 50.

So, if the UK Parliament decides on a course of action, he wants to conspire with a foreign state to obstruct it.

Perhaps he is sitting in the wrong Parliament.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

Absolutely shameless.

You want to drag the Queen and get her to take sides.

Please carry on - I think the ordinary citizen will lynch you for dragging her into a mess of your making.

The Queen is already involved, it was reported she backed Brexit during the EU referendum in 2016.

The Queen and Brexit has been all over the news tonight if you've been watching any of it? The news reports said the unwritten constitution of the UK is being stretched and tested by the likes of Speaker John Bercow, it's his behaviour which has dragged the opinion of the Queen deeper into this as all parts and players of the constitution may now have to come into play. The Queen released a public statement which many political commentators are interpreting as as a message about Brexit. "

That's cobblers, she was none committal in 2016 which is the same as her stance on General elections and whilst I've not checked she will have been the same in the 70s on joining..

And she has made no mention about bercow nor can anyone assume that from what was reported unless they are making shit up again..

Like you are..

Again..

She has spoke of unity, unlike people who only seek division..

Again like you..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"More madness, this time the Conservative MP Daniel Kawczynski.

He has written to the Polish Government asking that it vetos any request from the UK to the EU to delay Article 50.

So, if the UK Parliament decides on a course of action, he wants to conspire with a foreign state to obstruct it.

Perhaps he is sitting in the wrong Parliament."

Would that be a veto similar to the one we can use on such issues as the euro 'army' and such like we currently disagree with?

But will throw away in the near future..

How ironic of him..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The Sun dragged her into it in 2016. Centaur wants to do the same in 2019. They deserve each other. Both persistent peddlars of fake news.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"More madness, this time the Conservative MP Daniel Kawczynski.

He has written to the Polish Government asking that it vetos any request from the UK to the EU to delay Article 50.

So, if the UK Parliament decides on a course of action, he wants to conspire with a foreign state to obstruct it.

Perhaps he is sitting in the wrong Parliament."

Nice faux outrage. If remain backbenchers are conspiring behind closed doors with the speaker (who should be neutral as a matter of course in his job, but he's obviously not) to block Brexit as I've said previously it's about time leavers in the commons start fighting fire with fire and start playing dirty in return. Fair play to Daniel, I hope he's written to Victor Orban of Hungary and asked them to veto any extension to article 50 as well.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

Absolutely shameless.

You want to drag the Queen and get her to take sides.

Please carry on - I think the ordinary citizen will lynch you for dragging her into a mess of your making.

The Queen is already involved, it was reported she backed Brexit during the EU referendum in 2016.

The Queen and Brexit has been all over the news tonight if you've been watching any of it? The news reports said the unwritten constitution of the UK is being stretched and tested by the likes of Speaker John Bercow, it's his behaviour which has dragged the opinion of the Queen deeper into this as all parts and players of the constitution may now have to come into play. The Queen released a public statement which many political commentators are interpreting as as a message about Brexit.

That's cobblers, she was none committal in 2016 which is the same as her stance on General elections and whilst I've not checked she will have been the same in the 70s on joining..

And she has made no mention about bercow nor can anyone assume that from what was reported unless they are making shit up again..

Like you are..

Again..

She has spoke of unity, unlike people who only seek division..

Again like you..

"

The only ones fuelling division here are remainers who are refusing to accept and respect and implement a democratic decision the UK has taken to leave the EU. Remainers actions in the House of Commons attempts to block Brexit are an affront to democracy.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

Absolutely shameless.

You want to drag the Queen and get her to take sides.

Please carry on - I think the ordinary citizen will lynch you for dragging her into a mess of your making.

The Queen is already involved, it was reported she backed Brexit during the EU referendum in 2016.

The Queen and Brexit has been all over the news tonight if you've been watching any of it? The news reports said the unwritten constitution of the UK is being stretched and tested by the likes of Speaker John Bercow, it's his behaviour which has dragged the opinion of the Queen deeper into this as all parts and players of the constitution may now have to come into play. The Queen released a public statement which many political commentators are interpreting as as a message about Brexit.

That's cobblers, she was none committal in 2016 which is the same as her stance on General elections and whilst I've not checked she will have been the same in the 70s on joining..

And she has made no mention about bercow nor can anyone assume that from what was reported unless they are making shit up again..

Like you are..

Again..

She has spoke of unity, unlike people who only seek division..

Again like you..

The only ones fuelling division here are remainers who are refusing to accept and respect and implement a democratic decision the UK has taken to leave the EU. Remainers actions in the House of Commons attempts to block Brexit are an affront to democracy. "

Don’t be daft. There are two divisions. Leave versus remain, and within leave, hard veris soft.

If leave wasn’t divided, would we be seeing votes of confidence in TM and huge vote losses ?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

Absolutely shameless.

You want to drag the Queen and get her to take sides.

Please carry on - I think the ordinary citizen will lynch you for dragging her into a mess of your making.

The Queen is already involved, it was reported she backed Brexit during the EU referendum in 2016.

The Queen and Brexit has been all over the news tonight if you've been watching any of it? The news reports said the unwritten constitution of the UK is being stretched and tested by the likes of Speaker John Bercow, it's his behaviour which has dragged the opinion of the Queen deeper into this as all parts and players of the constitution may now have to come into play. The Queen released a public statement which many political commentators are interpreting as as a message about Brexit.

That's cobblers, she was none committal in 2016 which is the same as her stance on General elections and whilst I've not checked she will have been the same in the 70s on joining..

And she has made no mention about bercow nor can anyone assume that from what was reported unless they are making shit up again..

Like you are..

Again..

She has spoke of unity, unlike people who only seek division..

Again like you..

The only ones fuelling division here are remainers who are refusing to accept and respect and implement a democratic decision the UK has taken to leave the EU. Remainers actions in the House of Commons attempts to block Brexit are an affront to democracy. "

Wake-up Centy its not just remainers in Parliament that are trying to sort the mess your once heroine May has made of it..

It will be a compromise on what May has negotiated which will leave us worse off than before..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The division that will cause most harm is the one in the Tory party.It has been said hundreds of times here .Its the same division that created brexit and the same division that will bring misery upon the UK.

The wilfully ignorant choose to ignore this as it doesn't sound good in their echo chamber..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The ballot paper asked people to choose between leave and remain.

It said nothing about a date.

The process of leaving is in the hands of elected representatives.

If they conclude the UK is not ready to leave, that is a judgement for them.

It is also a damning indictment of the false promises made by Leave and the failure of the May government to tell the truth.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

“Ladies and gentlemen, this is the pilot speaking. I’m afraid there will be a short delay to our 2300hr departure because we have been a bit slow fuelling the aeroplane.”

Captain Manwaring, wearing his Union Jack underpants, jumps out his seat and demands the plane take off on time.

“Sir, we do not have enough fuel on board to reach our destination.”

“I don’t care. You promised to take off at 2300 and I demand you do so.”

“Sir, we are also still waiting on some missing lifejackets for under your seat.”

“This is an outrage, a personal affront, I demand you leave immediately.”

“Sir, did you notice we are missing a bit of a wing.”

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby

Ffs surely you can do better than that

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Arch-Brexiteer Andrea Leadsom admitting the UK may not be ready to leave the EU on March 29 and may need to ask permission to stay in the EU a bit longer.

Source: BBC

If the government don't want to see Tommy Robinson being elected as an MEP and representing the UK in the European Parliament they better get us out of the EU before the MEP elections in May.

For ukip I presume?

Thought you said that ex bnp, edl were barred from being kipper candidates..

And be honest how many votes do you think he would get, would he get yours?

There is nothing stopping him standing as an independent if he wanted to. "

Yeah without party finance and a party name you're unlikely to get far.

Mind, he's made a lot of money this Robinson kid, maybe he can be a man of the people and self finance

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

He’s not short of sponsors. Mostly rich extremists on the far-right of US and Israeli politics who hide behind the facade of an anti-Islam campaign group based in the US.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Ffs surely you can do better than that "

When you are sat in the airport departure lounge, the airworthiness of the plane is a little more important than the time on the boarding pass.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Jesus, Brexiteers still moaning, you won, get over it, we'll leave, at some point.

You all should be moaning about May's deal not being voted through, that's your Brexit, Brexits on the table but most of you moan about that too...

and they have the gaul to call remainers remoaners

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby

Aw spare me pls just stick with the good old cliff edge it’s worked for most remianers for the last two and half yrs lol

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Jesus, Brexiteers still moaning, you won, get over it, we'll leave, at some point.

You all should be moaning about May's deal not being voted through, that's your Brexit, Brexits on the table but most of you moan about that too...

and they have the gaul to call remainers remoaners "

Christ sakes Andy read all the threads almost every one is remianers moaning it’s never stopped for yrs now

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"

Plotters trying to stop brexit or delay brexit in Parliament can be stopped dead in their tracks by prorogation of Parliament as Jacob Rees Mogg suggested. This will ensure we leave the EU on 29th March as promised either with a deal or with no deal.

Absolutely shameless.

You want to drag the Queen and get her to take sides.

Please carry on - I think the ordinary citizen will lynch you for dragging her into a mess of your making.

The Queen is already involved, it was reported she backed Brexit during the EU referendum in 2016.

The Queen and Brexit has been all over the news tonight if you've been watching any of it? The news reports said the unwritten constitution of the UK is being stretched and tested by the likes of Speaker John Bercow, it's his behaviour which has dragged the opinion of the Queen deeper into this as all parts and players of the constitution may now have to come into play. The Queen released a public statement which many political commentators are interpreting as as a message about Brexit.

That's cobblers, she was none committal in 2016 which is the same as her stance on General elections and whilst I've not checked she will have been the same in the 70s on joining..

And she has made no mention about bercow nor can anyone assume that from what was reported unless they are making shit up again..

Like you are..

Again..

She has spoke of unity, unlike people who only seek division..

Again like you..

The only ones fuelling division here are remainers who are refusing to accept and respect and implement a democratic decision the UK has taken to leave the EU. Remainers actions in the House of Commons attempts to block Brexit are an affront to democracy. "

So why are the ERG and The flatearthers voting against a Leave Deal? Theyre blocking the will of the people. Dont blame the Remainers for the Tory infighting

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He’s not short of sponsors. Mostly rich extremists on the far-right of US and Israeli politics who hide behind the facade of an anti-Islam campaign group based in the US."

Can non UK bodies fund political parties ?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Ffs surely you can do better than that

When you are sat in the airport departure lounge, the airworthiness of the plane is a little more important than the time on the boarding pass."

So what all of a sudden because we leave the eu the uk technicians who inspect the planes are no good at their job?Get real.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Ffs surely you can do better than that

When you are sat in the airport departure lounge, the airworthiness of the plane is a little more important than the time on the boarding pass.So what all of a sudden because we leave the eu the uk technicians who inspect the planes are no good at their job?Get real."

Lol how simple can I make this.

The UK is not ready to go it alone.

It has neither the staff nor the infrastructure in place.

Mrs May had a chance when she became leader to tell people the truth.

That all these things you were promised during the referendum are impossible.

She could have managed expectations.

She could have set the baseline planning assumption at No Deal and said any deal was a bonus.

She did not.

Instead, she persisted with this delusion that a deal was as good as in the bag and there was no need to waste money planning for No Deal. The EU would give us everything we want because we’re British.

By the time the penny dropped, it was too late.

That is why she is desperate for the two year breathing space.

Tens of thousands of jobs were axed in the civil service by the Tories and now they are having to bring them all back.

How many Bills and regulations that need to be in place by March to empower UK agencies to do functions previously provided by the EU have not even started the statutory process?

A failure of leadership and governance on an epic scale.

No deal will expose that. If you think Britain’s reputation in the world has diminished these last two years, just wait until No Deal sets in.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Ffs surely you can do better than that

When you are sat in the airport departure lounge, the airworthiness of the plane is a little more important than the time on the boarding pass.So what all of a sudden because we leave the eu the uk technicians who inspect the planes are no good at their job?Get real."

I so wish sometimes I could just live in the head of a leaver. They have such a simple view of life. I guess the whole ignorance-is-bliss thing is right.

-Matt

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Ffs surely you can do better than that

When you are sat in the airport departure lounge, the airworthiness of the plane is a little more important than the time on the boarding pass.So what all of a sudden because we leave the eu the uk technicians who inspect the planes are no good at their job?Get real.

I so wish sometimes I could just live in the head of a leaver. They have such a simple view of life. I guess the whole ignorance-is-bliss thing is right.

-Matt"

I bet you do must be bloody depressing living with a glass half empty rather than a glass half full outlook can you just imagine a swingers club full of remianers it would be like a suicide convention would be more Valium poped than viagra lol

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Perhaps you can explain this then.

In 2016, no deal was ridiculed by the Leave campaign.

Don’t be silly, they said.

Project Fear, we were told.

Now, in 2019, no deal is like a wet dream for leavers.

What made you change from a lofty mood of British exceptionalism in 2016 to one of Dunkirk in 2019, revelling in the suffering and misery you are inflicting on yourself?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Ffs surely you can do better than that

When you are sat in the airport departure lounge, the airworthiness of the plane is a little more important than the time on the boarding pass.So what all of a sudden because we leave the eu the uk technicians who inspect the planes are no good at their job?Get real.

I so wish sometimes I could just live in the head of a leaver. They have such a simple view of life. I guess the whole ignorance-is-bliss thing is right.

-Matt"

here we go again us leavers are ignorant.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Perhaps you can explain this then.

In 2016, no deal was ridiculed by the Leave campaign.

Don’t be silly, they said.

Project Fear, we were told.

Now, in 2019, no deal is like a wet dream for leavers.

What made you change from a lofty mood of British exceptionalism in 2016 to one of Dunkirk in 2019, revelling in the suffering and misery you are inflicting on yourself?"

The only suffering and misery i can see is from you remainers, us leavers on the whole seem a happy bunch with a positive outlook.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Perhaps you can explain this then.

In 2016, no deal was ridiculed by the Leave campaign.

Don’t be silly, they said.

Project Fear, we were told.

Now, in 2019, no deal is like a wet dream for leavers.

What made you change from a lofty mood of British exceptionalism in 2016 to one of Dunkirk in 2019, revelling in the suffering and misery you are inflicting on yourself?The only suffering and misery i can see is from you remainers, us leavers on the whole seem a happy bunch with a positive outlook."

No attempt to explain.

Carry on smiling.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"Ffs surely you can do better than that

When you are sat in the airport departure lounge, the airworthiness of the plane is a little more important than the time on the boarding pass.So what all of a sudden because we leave the eu the uk technicians who inspect the planes are no good at their job?Get real."

If a car mechanic is not licensed to conduct an MOT test, would you say that if he did do an MOT test it would be legal?

It has nothing to do with ability and competence. If the regulatory authority changes then the licensing changes. March 29th - UK based engineering operate lawfully under EASA authority. March 30th, the U.K. Govt has unilaterally removes the U.K. from EASA.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Jings, what have I started lol.

I was sat in an airport departure lounge when I posted that, waiting for a flight to Birmingham. I didn’t mean to re-open the aviation argument - it was just an analogy about whether GB is ready to fly solo or not lol

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Two and half years later, the Government has run out of time to get ready for March 29 and is cancelling MPs' February break.

Who did the planning for this?

Laurel and Hardy?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

  

By *tirluvMan  over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

Why is anyone syurprised by any of the ineptitude shown throughout the whole process is what beats me. Every new disclosure is treated as though it was some shocking new unexpected event!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

» Add a new message to this topic

0.1093

0