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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts?

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Some Democrats saying the US won’t play ball with Britain if Britain doesn’t play ball with Ireland.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some Democrats saying the US won’t play ball with Britain if Britain doesn’t play ball with Ireland."

So does it matter much unless they are in a position to vote down or promote policy.

Does show it's not a case of plain sailing after we actually get out.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

thoght the republicans were in power.isnt it a bit like labour saying we will give you a 2nd referrendum? can say what they want but unless there in power its just words?

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts? "

A hard border between the ROI and NI will be the result of the UK breaking a legally binding international treaty. Who in their right minds enters into a legally binding contract with a country that has just broken a legally binding contract because it was no longer convenient for those in power?

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The Irish diaspora is an influence in US politics, more so than any other part of these islands.

The US was instrumental too in the lead-up to the Belfast Agreement.

So it is a factor to consider.

Not least since any UK/US deal proposed by Trump will need sign-off from the Democrat-led house committee.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts? "

The biggest issue to do with that part of the world is agriculture....

The eu basically bans food entering the food chain that has antibiotic or steroids in it...

In the us it is common place where chicken are given antibiotics and cows are injected with hgh to make them bigger hence more beef

The us desperately want new markets for their farmers but it would mean the uk would have to lower the acceptable food standards

If the uk refused that is what could scupper the trade deal... if the uk accepted the us demand there would need to be a hard border in place so that food from the north couldn’t go into the south

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts? "

For those with longer memories than Brexit, this will come as no surprise. If all the Americans who claimed to be Irish came back to Ireland - the island would sink.

Arms and money flowed from Irish American fundraisers throughout the times of the troubles and the British were very much viewed as oppressors of the Irish in those times. Americans such as George Mitchell were heavily involved in the peace process and the over-riding principle of the process was to create the feeling of a one island, Ireland whilst respecting the Unionist position as well.

Any prospect of the U.K. retreating from the status quo will be seen by many Americans as a step backwards to the bad old days and as Gerry Adams once said about the IRA “they haven’t gone away” neither has the support in America for Irish Nationalism gone away.

People need to remember that heritage passes down through generations whilst the current President has his seat for just 4 years - or 8 if he is re-elected. Irish support in America will always be present.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Some Democrats saying the US won’t play ball with Britain if Britain doesn’t play ball with Ireland."

Simplistic way of putting it is that trumps administration get to negotiate the deal, but it still needs to be rubber stamped by the ‘ways and means’ committee... which is now democratic led

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts?

A hard border between the ROI and NI will be the result of the UK breaking a legally binding international treaty. Who in their right minds enters into a legally binding contract with a country that has just broken a legally binding contract because it was no longer convenient for those in power?"

Funny enough Will, you and other Trump haters on here often level that exact same accusation at Donald Trump.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts?

A hard border between the ROI and NI will be the result of the UK breaking a legally binding international treaty. Who in their right minds enters into a legally binding contract with a country that has just broken a legally binding contract because it was no longer convenient for those in power?

Funny enough Will, you and other Trump haters on here often level that exact same accusation at Donald Trump. "

Didnt Tge donald make a bit if a faux pas today ?

Something Americas greatest achievments being the abolitiin of Human Rights

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on."

Except you cannot just ignore a Legal Agreement which is recognised by international courts.

It has to be turned over by mutual consent or modified.

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on."

There wilk be an open border between the EU & the UK so

people can get in which means

You are not in control of your borders.

See here lies the problem

Britain is an Island & if you cant protect those borders with customs at airports docks like Dover etc, how can you control tour ooen border ?

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex

Your & Open!!

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

its interesting that parts of centy's saviour... the US/UK trade deal, and what the US want are beginning to come out.....

It says the US Department of Trade asked industry what the president should extract from post-Brexit Britain and the answers from lobbyists for big firms included:

Changing how NHS chiefs buy drugs to suit big US pharmaceutical companies.

Britain scrapping its safety-first approach to safety and food standards.

Law changes that would allow foreign companies to sue the British state.

Removing protections for traditional British products.

and thats just the beginning.... japan and south korea also want certain stuff carved into any potential agreements.......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"its interesting that parts of centy's saviour... the US/UK trade deal, and what the US want are beginning to come out.....

It says the US Department of Trade asked industry what the president should extract from post-Brexit Britain and the answers from lobbyists for big firms included:

Changing how NHS chiefs buy drugs to suit big US pharmaceutical companies.

Britain scrapping its safety-first approach to safety and food standards.

Law changes that would allow foreign companies to sue the British state.

Removing protections for traditional British products.

and thats just the beginning.... japan and south korea also want certain stuff carved into any potential agreements......."

Has Dr Fox flipped those trade deals yet? Only 49 days!

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on."

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO."

Strictly speaking WTO says that all nations need the same treatment. So if we allow ireland to have no checks, all countries must have no checks. Same applies to imports into the EU, as they’d be giving us special arrangements.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO."

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is? "

Except the so called ten year rule isn’t the rule for the waiver.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is? "

why do you keep trotting out the lie that has been debunked so many times....

see... the first time you did it, it could be called a misunderstanding... people could give you the benefit of the doubt

now its a just a deliberate blatant attempt to misinform people.......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts? "

No problem, don't you fret yourself with worry. The UK already has agreed a trade deal with Chile. And some African countries. Oh, and don't forget our cousins down under. They're on standby.

What could possibly go wrong?

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is? "

For goodness sake: Article 24 of GATT does not allow this despite what Rees-Smug says

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is?

For goodness sake: Article 24 of GATT does not allow this despite what Rees-Smug says"

But it actually does. You see the former director General of the British Chambers of Commerce and now Chairman of the Leave means Leave Brexit campaign group John Longworth along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event in January 2019 for a meeting with leading figures in the World Trade Organisation. This specific topic was brought up in the meeting and the WTO representatives confirmed to John Longworth and Richard Tice that it's perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is?

For goodness sake: Article 24 of GATT does not allow this despite what Rees-Smug says

But it actually does. You see the former director General of the British Chambers of Commerce and now Chairman of the Leave means Leave Brexit campaign group John Longworth along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event in January 2019 for a meeting with leading figures in the World Trade Organisation. This specific topic was brought up in the meeting and the WTO representatives confirmed to John Longworth and Richard Tice that it's perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. "

I'd presume there was a joint press release online that can substantiate this?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is?

For goodness sake: Article 24 of GATT does not allow this despite what Rees-Smug says

But it actually does. You see the former director General of the British Chambers of Commerce and now Chairman of the Leave means Leave Brexit campaign group John Longworth along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event in January 2019 for a meeting with leading figures in the World Trade Organisation. This specific topic was brought up in the meeting and the WTO representatives confirmed to John Longworth and Richard Tice that it's perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules.

I'd presume there was a joint press release online that can substantiate this? "

I saw it in a YouTube video during an interview with Nigel Farage, where it was being discussed. As Nigel Farage is part of the Leave means Leave Brexit campaign group and was talking about John Longworth and Richard Tice trip over to the Davos economic forum event.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except its the WTO that requires a proper border, not the EU. And the UK can be subject to fines and sanctions if they dont uphold their agreement with the WTO.

Except there is scope within WTO rules for a 10 year exemption on border controls, in extenuating circumstances like national security and peace. If the Good friday agreement is not an extenuating circumstance pertaining to national security and peace then what is?

For goodness sake: Article 24 of GATT does not allow this despite what Rees-Smug says

But it actually does. You see the former director General of the British Chambers of Commerce and now Chairman of the Leave means Leave Brexit campaign group John Longworth along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event in January 2019 for a meeting with leading figures in the World Trade Organisation. This specific topic was brought up in the meeting and the WTO representatives confirmed to John Longworth and Richard Tice that it's perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules.

I'd presume there was a joint press release online that can substantiate this?

I saw it in a YouTube video during an interview with Nigel Farage, where it was being discussed. As Nigel Farage is part of the Leave means Leave Brexit campaign group and was talking about John Longworth and Richard Tice trip over to the Davos economic forum event. "

So a credible source then

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Presumably you'll have something in writing from WTO to verify this.

Otherwise I'll just file it in the "junk claims" bin along with all the others you trot out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts? "

It might have something to do with the fact that although the USA was discovered by white skinned sea fairers, we all had ancestors already living in the USA and the Irish might have not been the only conquerors to descend on the USA.

Or in simple terms, Ireland is a tad bigger than you think.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just saw this flash up on the TV in the lobby for a conference im at.

Apparently any hard boarder between the UK and the Republic of Ireland will impact negatively the potential future trade deal between the UK and US, not sure why.

Thoughts?

It might have something to do with the fact that although the USA was discovered by white skinned sea fairers, we all had ancestors already living in the USA and the Irish might have not been the only conquerors to descend on the USA.

Or in simple terms, Ireland is a tad bigger than you think."

Makes me laugh saying when America was "discovered" a few hundred years ago when people have been living there for over 90,000 years

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well we have managed to flip £16bn in value of the EU trade deals on the same terms as before!

However, there is £101bn that are not going to be flipped!

Liam Fox has surely learnt a lesson in "its easier said than done "?

#globalbritain

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Well we have managed to flip £16bn in value of the EU trade deals on the same terms as before!

However, there is £101bn that are not going to be flipped!

Liam Fox has surely learnt a lesson in "its easier said than done "?

#globalbritain"

It'll be fine...we've got the Faroe islands and Switzerland....what could possibly go wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes it will be and there will be a hard border.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Kevin Rudd, the former Prime Minister of Australia, has something interesting things to say about Brexit Britain and trade deals in an article in the Guardian today.

"Think the Commonwealth can save Brexit Britain? That’s utter delusion"

I’m struck, as the British parliament moves towards the endgame on Brexit, with the number of times Australia, Canada, New Zealand and India have been advanced by the Brexiteers in the public debate as magical alternatives to Britain’s current trade and investment relationship with the European Union.

This is the nuttiest of the many nutty arguments that have emerged from the Land of Hope and Glory set now masquerading as the authentic standard-bearers of British patriotism. It’s utter bollocks.

If Britain proceeds with giving effect to what future historians will legitimately describe as the longest suicide note in history by leaving the union, the cold, hard reality is that the mathematics simply don’t stack up in terms of credible economic alternatives to Europe.

Much as any Australian, Canadian and New Zealand governments of whichever persuasion would do whatever they could to frame new free-trade agreements with the UK, the bottom line is that 65 million of us do not come within a bull’s roar of Britain’s adjacent market of 450 million Europeans.

For its economic self-interest, as well as the wider political interests of the west, Britain should remain in the EU

As for India, good luck! India’s trade and commerce bureaucracy is the most mercantilist and outright protectionist in the world. They virtually single-handedly sank the Doha round in 2009. In the same year, as prime minister of Australia, I launched a free-trade negotiation with Delhi.

But a decade later, those negotiations remain at a standstill. The Australian economy is only 50% the size of Britain’s.

A substantive India-UK FTA is the ultimate mirage constructed by the Brexiteers. It’s as credible as the ad they plastered on the side of that big red bus about the £350m Britain was allegedly paying to Brussels each week. Not.

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By *verysmileMan  over a year ago

CANTERBURY


"Kevin Rudd, the former Prime Minister of Australia, has something interesting things to say about Brexit Britain and trade deals in an article in the Guardian today.

"Think the Commonwealth can save Brexit Britain? That’s utter delusion"

I’m struck, as the British parliament moves towards the endgame on Brexit, with the number of times Australia, Canada, New Zealand and India have been advanced by the Brexiteers in the public debate as magical alternatives to Britain’s current trade and investment relationship with the European Union.

This is the nuttiest of the many nutty arguments that have emerged from the Land of Hope and Glory set now masquerading as the authentic standard-bearers of British patriotism. It’s utter bollocks.

If Britain proceeds with giving effect to what future historians will legitimately describe as the longest suicide note in history by leaving the union, the cold, hard reality is that the mathematics simply don’t stack up in terms of credible economic alternatives to Europe.

Much as any Australian, Canadian and New Zealand governments of whichever persuasion would do whatever they could to frame new free-trade agreements with the UK, the bottom line is that 65 million of us do not come within a bull’s roar of Britain’s adjacent market of 450 million Europeans.

For its economic self-interest, as well as the wider political interests of the west, Britain should remain in the EU

As for India, good luck! India’s trade and commerce bureaucracy is the most mercantilist and outright protectionist in the world. They virtually single-handedly sank the Doha round in 2009. In the same year, as prime minister of Australia, I launched a free-trade negotiation with Delhi.

But a decade later, those negotiations remain at a standstill. The Australian economy is only 50% the size of Britain’s.

A substantive India-UK FTA is the ultimate mirage constructed by the Brexiteers. It’s as credible as the ad they plastered on the side of that big red bus about the £350m Britain was allegedly paying to Brussels each week. Not."

.....and this assumes that all existing trade will cease when we leave the EU.

Utter rubbish.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Where did you read that?

You must be reading a different article altogether.

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By *wosmilersCouple  over a year ago

Heathrowish

It may not have been directly quoted but the flavour of many of the entries implies that there will no longer be continuing trade links.

I am glad that at least one person recognises that.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

No-one is suggesting trade ceases, only that it becomes more expensive and bureaucratic.

Rudd is referring to free-trade agreements.

We are giving up on the world's biggest.

His point is that it's a delusion to think there is a better alternative out there waiting to be grasped.

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By *wosmilersCouple  over a year ago

Heathrowish

It may or not be better in minutiae when considering just a small element of trade. However, taking one small aspect of our obligation to the EU does not fully empower an argument for remaining.

People voted out for more than simply a temporary trade agreement. What many fail to recognise is that there is no turning back from where we find ourselves. But much of what we do will still be done.

Insofar as additional bureaucracy is concerned, most larger businesses will have to realign their software from Intrastat to Import.

Do not believe for one minute that existing trade with the EU means no bureaucracy. It's just that the forms or online declarations will change.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

We have a distinct lack of talent and experience available for trade deals.

Quite worrying.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"It may or not be better in minutiae when considering just a small element of trade. However, taking one small aspect of our obligation to the EU does not fully empower an argument for remaining.

People voted out for more than simply a temporary trade agreement. What many fail to recognise is that there is no turning back from where we find ourselves. But much of what we do will still be done.

Insofar as additional bureaucracy is concerned, most larger businesses will have to realign their software from Intrastat to Import.

Do not believe for one minute that existing trade with the EU means no bureaucracy. It's just that the forms or online declarations will change."

Did they?

How do you know what people voted for?

How do you know how their opinions might have changed in seeing it isn't as easy as promised?

How do you know what their concerns about trade are when jobs are being lost?

Existing trade with the EU is immeasurably easier than between any other country in the world.

China and the USA do more than 30% of their trade with their immediate neighbours, but you think that making it harder for us to do the same is a good idea.

We'll trade less and consumers and businesses will be more for the privilege.

Sorry, software will fix it

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

March 13 and the UK Government today announces the abolition of tarrifs on 85 per cent of imports to the UK from March 29.

No need for any trade agreements, folks - we have nothing left to negotiate with.

Unbelievable.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except you cannot just ignore a Legal Agreement which is recognised by international courts.

It has to be turned over by mutual consent or modified."

If both sides do it and agree nobody can do anything and the EU would sit on the fence as they would not want to upset the Irish most likely.

Legal agreements in this case would be irrevilent

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"If there is no deal then who will close the border?The Irish do not want to,we do not want to so both sides can ignore the EU and life goes on.

Except you cannot just ignore a Legal Agreement which is recognised by international courts.

It has to be turned over by mutual consent or modified.If both sides do it and agree nobody can do anything and the EU would sit on the fence as they would not want to upset the Irish most likely.

Legal agreements in this case would be irrevilent"

So you're seriously suggesting that the UK and Ireland trade illegally out side the rule of international law and contrary to are existing WTO terms of trade? While, at the same time, try to negotiate new FTAs under WTO terms with other nations!

I guess that's mildly more sensible and workable than anything else BREXITERS have come with in the last 3 years.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS  over a year ago

Plymouth

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS  over a year ago

Plymouth


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

"

Along with the Faroe Islands, and taking back control of our fisheries, we're going to be inundated with fish...

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

"

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

You forgot to mention Trump threatening to "tariff the hell" out of countries in Europe unless they sign up to terms that favour the United States, the UK included.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Oh, and if you want to study facial expressions, try that of the renowned homophobe Mike Pence when the Irish PM introduced him to his partner.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face. "

I hope you enjoy eating shit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would not take too much notice if trump because by the time things get moving he will be out of office anyways

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit "

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you. "

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese "

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from. "

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

"

So not number one then. The top 4 are Nauru, Tonga, Samoa and Kuwait.

It's a completely pointless statistic.

I could live a healthy lifestyle on American produce, with a balanced diet and plenty of exercise and not become obese.

Compared to a European couch potato who only consumed European produce, with an unbalanced diet who had very little exercise, they would most likely become obese.

Where a person's food originates from has little, if anything to do with it.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

"

Think its more to do with portion sizes last time i was over there i couldnt even finish my starter they are that bloody big.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple  over a year ago

Dudley


"Oh, and if you want to study facial expressions, try that of the renowned homophobe Mike Pence when the Irish PM introduced him to his partner.

"

He was probably expecting a bit of eye candy and was disappointed with what he saw!

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple  over a year ago

Dudley


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit "

Not nearly as much as you enjoy talking it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

So not number one then. The top 4 are Nauru, Tonga, Samoa and Kuwait.

It's a completely pointless statistic.

I could live a healthy lifestyle on American produce, with a balanced diet and plenty of exercise and not become obese.

Compared to a European couch potato who only consumed European produce, with an unbalanced diet who had very little exercise, they would most likely become obese.

Where a person's food originates from has little, if anything to do with it. "

You are unbelievable! The amount of rubbish that you spout! Suggest you read what you write before posting!

For your information suggest you Google "Mediterranean diet" one of the healthiest in the world!

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

So not number one then. The top 4 are Nauru, Tonga, Samoa and Kuwait.

It's a completely pointless statistic.

I could live a healthy lifestyle on American produce, with a balanced diet and plenty of exercise and not become obese.

Compared to a European couch potato who only consumed European produce, with an unbalanced diet who had very little exercise, they would most likely become obese.

Where a person's food originates from has little, if anything to do with it.

You are unbelievable! The amount of rubbish that you spout! Suggest you read what you write before posting!

For your information suggest you Google "Mediterranean diet" one of the healthiest in the world!"

Plenty of fat people who live around the med, its a simple calculation you need to burn more calories than you take in nothing to do with where it comes from an italian tomato has the same calories as an american one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

So not number one then. The top 4 are Nauru, Tonga, Samoa and Kuwait.

It's a completely pointless statistic.

I could live a healthy lifestyle on American produce, with a balanced diet and plenty of exercise and not become obese.

Compared to a European couch potato who only consumed European produce, with an unbalanced diet who had very little exercise, they would most likely become obese.

Where a person's food originates from has little, if anything to do with it.

You are unbelievable! The amount of rubbish that you spout! Suggest you read what you write before posting!

For your information suggest you Google "Mediterranean diet" one of the healthiest in the world!Plenty of fat people who live around the med, its a simple calculation you need to burn more calories than you take in nothing to do with where it comes from an italian tomato has the same calories as an american one."

Personal responsibility fat people are everywhere! If you are a "couch potato " then you get fat in whatever country, area you live in. The Mediterranean diet is held as one of the best diets in the world-fact! It can be consumed anywhere in the world!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

So not number one then. The top 4 are Nauru, Tonga, Samoa and Kuwait.

It's a completely pointless statistic.

I could live a healthy lifestyle on American produce, with a balanced diet and plenty of exercise and not become obese.

Compared to a European couch potato who only consumed European produce, with an unbalanced diet who had very little exercise, they would most likely become obese.

Where a person's food originates from has little, if anything to do with it.

You are unbelievable! The amount of rubbish that you spout! Suggest you read what you write before posting!

For your information suggest you Google "Mediterranean diet" one of the healthiest in the world!Plenty of fat people who live around the med, its a simple calculation you need to burn more calories than you take in nothing to do with where it comes from an italian tomato has the same calories as an american one.

Personal responsibility fat people are everywhere! If you are a "couch potato " then you get fat in whatever country, area you live in. The Mediterranean diet is held as one of the best diets in the world-fact! It can be consumed anywhere in the world!"

Indeed, if you eat far too much of a healthy diet you'll still get fat.

Quite simple really

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Not nearly as much as you enjoy talking it! "

There you go again. Better than having it between my ears like yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you. "

Yes i am referring to US ‘food’.

“What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available”

Oh I’m absolutely terrified lol

I’ll say to you exactly the same thing as the Russian Prime Minister said when the US were hoping to sell their ‘food’ in Russia - if you want to eat that (shit) then you eat it!

There are plenty of Americans who wish they had the food standards we have over here in Europe. I feel very sorry for those in America who understand what is on their shelves but cannot do a thing about it, because powerful companies like coca-cola spend millions on advertising to mislead dimwits into voting against the labelling of GMOs.

People in the US are not just relatively obese, that’s the least of their problems. They are also contracting cancers from the GM food on their shelves. The GM crops also are resistant to pesticides and herbicides, meaning the farmers can drench the crop with harmful chemicals to create bigger yields.

If you want to eat that then crack on!

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple  over a year ago

Dudley


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Not nearly as much as you enjoy talking it!

There you go again. Better than having it between my ears like yourself. "

Somebody got out of bed the wrong side! LOL.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you. "

are you really argueing that people should be allowing it eat drug injected food based on the fact it will give people choice..... wow!!!!

this may be a low, even for you....

let me give you a reason as to why the EU don't allow food with antibiotics into the human food chain...

because it is argued that you grow a "tolerance" to it.... which means that if you need it in the case of medicines, you will need more of it to have the effect, or it may not help at all as you become immune to the positives.....

but yeah.... choice choice choice...

oh and why allow HGH injected beef in.... you seen what steroids can do to some people......

its not always a "protectionist" arguement... its not always a money arguement, .... animal welfare comes into it as well.... human welfare comes into it as well....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

are you really argueing that people should be allowing it eat drug injected food based on the fact it will give people choice..... wow!!!!

this may be a low, even for you....

let me give you a reason as to why the EU don't allow food with antibiotics into the human food chain...

because it is argued that you grow a "tolerance" to it.... which means that if you need it in the case of medicines, you will need more of it to have the effect, or it may not help at all as you become immune to the positives.....

but yeah.... choice choice choice...

oh and why allow HGH injected beef in.... you seen what steroids can do to some people......

its not always a "protectionist" arguement... its not always a money arguement, .... animal welfare comes into it as well.... human welfare comes into it as well...."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

are you really argueing that people should be allowing it eat drug injected food based on the fact it will give people choice..... wow!!!!

this may be a low, even for you....

let me give you a reason as to why the EU don't allow food with antibiotics into the human food chain...

because it is argued that you grow a "tolerance" to it.... which means that if you need it in the case of medicines, you will need more of it to have the effect, or it may not help at all as you become immune to the positives.....

but yeah.... choice choice choice...

oh and why allow HGH injected beef in.... you seen what steroids can do to some people......

its not always a "protectionist" arguement... its not always a money arguement, .... animal welfare comes into it as well.... human welfare comes into it as well...."

Can I add that “choice” might not come into it. The country of origin written on your produce. Yep, that’s an E.U. directive.

If Americans think we won’t eat their steroid riddled beef, they will be powerful enough to make us change the legislation on food labelling, so you might no longer know where your produce comes from. They will be fully aware of people’s concerns.

This kind of demand is a common in negotiating trade deals.

You’ll note that we will lose “sovereignty” with each trade deal we do with bigger countries such as the states, now that we’re out of the E.U.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The good news just keeps coming - trade deals today with, um, Fiji and Papa New Guinea.

That'll teach those pesky Europeans, eh?

Isn't the tone of your posts like this extremely disrespectful to the likes of Fiji and Papa New Guinea, they are proud sovereign countries in their own right and should be afforded the respect they deserve. Besides aren't they just existing EU deals that are being rolled over for a post Brexit UK, and as such the EU thought them important enough to do trade deals with in the first place.

That wasn't the only news on trade today though was it. USA President Donald Trump, speaking in a joint press conference with Irish leader Leo Varadker said today that he looked forward to the UK and the USA doing a massive post Brexit trade deal and that the potential for trade between the UK and the USA after Brexit is unlimited. Don't think it went down too well with Varadker judging by the look on his face.

I hope you enjoy eating shit

Is that a reference to American food produce? What I think is that the consumer should be free to choose. American food produce should be on supermarket shelves next to European food produce and then people can decide for themselves what they want to eat. Country of origin will be clearly labelled. If you want to Continue to buy more expensive European food produce that is your choice and you can continue doing that. What I think remainers like you are shit scared of is more people will go for the cheaper American options available. If consumers had a real choice then EU produce would be exposed as being over priced and uncompetitive. People should not be dictated to by the likes of you.

We would welcome rights wingers to go and buy American food, hopefully they will just grow and grow until obese

Nonsense, there are millions of Americans who are not obese and there are millions of Europeans who are obese. Nothing to do with where the food comes from.

This just demonstrates your ignorance.

I know you hate facts and informtion, but ill try. America has a higher rate of obesity, (ranked 12th most obese country. UK is 36th) there are a number of reasons for this of course. Their food is one of the main reasons. 5 minutes research will tell you about corn syrup, and growth hormones etc etc.

You're welcome.

So not number one then. The top 4 are Nauru, Tonga, Samoa and Kuwait.

It's a completely pointless statistic.

I could live a healthy lifestyle on American produce, with a balanced diet and plenty of exercise and not become obese.

Compared to a European couch potato who only consumed European produce, with an unbalanced diet who had very little exercise, they would most likely become obese.

Where a person's food originates from has little, if anything to do with it. "

Your inability to reason and understand the full picture is outstanding.

So now you’re arguing that American food will be good for the uk because there are non-American who are obese.

Again, outstanding, the lengths you go to attempt to justify your bizarre opinions is commendable.

I’ve never known anyone have the ability to continue to argue against all the facts and information for so long without questioning themselves. That is impressive.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

From Business Insider:

LONDON — Countries are likely to offer the United Kingdom worse trade deals than it currently enjoys as a member of the European Union, the former head of Liam Fox's International Trade Department has told Business Insider.

Sir Martin Donnelly, who was the Permanent Secretary of the Department for International Trade until 2017, said that the UK could offer less market access as an individual country than as part the EU, and would therefore be offered less favourable terms when negotiating free trade arrangements after Brexit.

"The United Kingdom alone can offer significantly less in terms of market access or government procurement than can all of the European Union," Donnelly said.

"That means that other countries are less likely to offer us the same deal because they don't get the same benefits," he added.

"Trade negotiators are not sentimental, they look for reciprocity of benefits."

"By negotiating as a country of 65 million, we start in a significantly less attractive position than when we are a part of a bloc of around 500 million," Donnelly told BI.

"That's what's coming back to us from the negotiations, and that is not surprising."

Not rocket science, is it?

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