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By *nleashedCraken OP   Man  over a year ago

Widnes

The land of milk and honey promised by the Vote Leave campaign in 2016 has been sucked into the BREXIT vortex and turned into a national nightmare.

Brexit. Brexit? Brexit! BREXIT!? The Backstop! Norway Plus! Canada Minus? The Cooper Amendment! The Malthouse Compromise? The Kyle-Wilson Amendment! Hard Brexit! Soft Brexit! No deal? Brexiteer! Remoaner! BREXIT!!?? Aaaargh.

It has come down to this with a few weeks to go until the March 29 deadline for Britain to leave the European Union, as it voted to do almost three years ago: a jumble of jargon, jousting and gibberish, with everyone sucked into the vortex of confusion, to the exclusion of every other issue in the world. Britain’s biggest political parties are splintering, and there is clarity only on the fact that nobody has a clue what is about to happen.

So much for the panacea offered in 2016 by leaders of the Vote Leave campaign — a land of milk and honey in which an island liberated from European shackles would become “Global Britain,” money would flow, cold sores would be cured, children would become more beautiful, the soil more bountiful, and the world Britain’s oyster. These days, the fantasy has sagged into a mumbled, “Well, Brexit is not the end of the world.”, "We'll survive" and "it was worse in the war" but nobody actually agrees on where going.

May’s deal, overwhelmingly rejected by Parliament last month, is a fudge. It leaves the nature of Britain’s future relationship with the European Union to be decided over the next two years. Everything — the fate of the customs union, of the single market, of the Ireland-United Kingdom border — remains either totally unresolved or relsoves down to worse than we have now.

Article 7 of May’s proposed agreement — call it the disempowerment clause — says that after March 29, European Union law “shall be understood as including the United Kingdom” except as regards “the participation in the decision making and governance of the bodies, offices and agencies of the Union.” In other words, things remain as they are except that Britain loses its voice, its vote and its veto. This is what exiting from the union actually means; the greatest single voluntary transfer of sovereignty from the UK to the EU ever. "Take Back Control”: not.

Is the best the country can come up with, after negotiations that have consumed the entire political energy of all sides (and untold amounts of money) a kick-the-can-down-the-road measure designed only to avert the calamity of a no-deal Brexit or Britain crashing out of the EU on March 29 into a void. "Bring it on!" say the hard-line BREXITERS in May’s party, their appetite for destruction still unquenched.

Honda’s recent decision to close a plant in Swindon with the loss of 3,500 jobs — unrelated, it says, to Brexit (ha-ha) — and Nissan’s recent retrenchment are signs, along with slower growth and lower investment, of the price Britain has already paid for uncertainty but No-deal Brexit would turn uncertainty into mayhem.

As May maneuvers to save her deal, chiefly by adjusting the “backstop,” and the feckless Jeremy Corbyn maneuvers to keep his fingerprint off the BREXIT button, while not so secretly aiding and abetting it at every turn; the bottom line is simple: Brexit has been, is and will always be a disaster for Britain. The 2016 vote was manipulated through lies. A country that has benefited from its 46-year participation in a union of more than a half-billion Europeans is drifting toward a self-amputation understood by few, opposed by the young, abetted by dissembling anti-market socialists, driven by little-England Tory right-wingers holding the country for ransom, and, according to polls, no longer wanted by the majority in the country.

Surly the best option, now that the country has sobered up and the land of milk and honey promised looks more like a jobless desert, now we all know what leave really means, is to put Britain’s future and choices to a properly democratic people’s vote.

(Based on Roger Cohen opinion piece in the New York Times)

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By *verysmileMan  over a year ago

CANTERBURY

Groundhog day...again

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

Less trade

Pay more for everything (Cheese and Beef will be much more expensive on the news today the horror the horror)

Going to have to fill those skilled gaps with people outside the EU. (That May upset a few)

Pay to go on holiday to Europe.

Even more red tape and bureaucracy

I fail to see what’s not to like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It looks like we have little to worry about. Unemployment is near to or at a 40 year low and our PLCS have paid out record levels of dividends.

We are so successfull in some area s that companies from abroad are purchasing quite a few of our large plcs.

Luckily most people have no interest in Brexit or for that matter politics .

On a simplistic basis we are taking about a few changes to duty rates which cancel out at World level.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It looks like we have little to worry about. Unemployment is near to or at a 40 year low and our PLCS have paid out record levels of dividends.

We are so successfull in some area s that companies from abroad are purchasing quite a few of our large plcs.

Luckily most people have no interest in Brexit or for that matter politics .

On a simplistic basis we are taking about a few changes to duty rates which cancel out at World level. "

Hahaha, he's back and so simplistically head in the clouds as ever

It sure is good to have you back

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"

The land of milk and honey promised by the Vote Leave campaign in 2016 has been sucked into the BREXIT vortex and turned into a national nightmare.

Brexit. Brexit? Brexit! BREXIT!? The Backstop! Norway Plus! Canada Minus? The Cooper Amendment! The Malthouse Compromise? The Kyle-Wilson Amendment! Hard Brexit! Soft Brexit! No deal? Brexiteer! Remoaner! BREXIT!!?? Aaaargh.

It has come down to this with a few weeks to go until the March 29 deadline for Britain to leave the European Union, as it voted to do almost three years ago: a jumble of jargon, jousting and gibberish, with everyone sucked into the vortex of confusion, to the exclusion of every other issue in the world. Britain’s biggest political parties are splintering, and there is clarity only on the fact that nobody has a clue what is about to happen.

So much for the panacea offered in 2016 by leaders of the Vote Leave campaign — a land of milk and honey in which an island liberated from European shackles would become “Global Britain,” money would flow, cold sores would be cured, children would become more beautiful, the soil more bountiful, and the world Britain’s oyster. These days, the fantasy has sagged into a mumbled, “Well, Brexit is not the end of the world.”, "We'll survive" and "it was worse in the war" but nobody actually agrees on where going.

May’s deal, overwhelmingly rejected by Parliament last month, is a fudge. It leaves the nature of Britain’s future relationship with the European Union to be decided over the next two years. Everything — the fate of the customs union, of the single market, of the Ireland-United Kingdom border — remains either totally unresolved or relsoves down to worse than we have now.

Article 7 of May’s proposed agreement — call it the disempowerment clause — says that after March 29, European Union law “shall be understood as including the United Kingdom” except as regards “the participation in the decision making and governance of the bodies, offices and agencies of the Union.” In other words, things remain as they are except that Britain loses its voice, its vote and its veto. This is what exiting from the union actually means; the greatest single voluntary transfer of sovereignty from the UK to the EU ever. "Take Back Control”: not.

Is the best the country can come up with, after negotiations that have consumed the entire political energy of all sides (and untold amounts of money) a kick-the-can-down-the-road measure designed only to avert the calamity of a no-deal Brexit or Britain crashing out of the EU on March 29 into a void. "Bring it on!" say the hard-line BREXITERS in May’s party, their appetite for destruction still unquenched.

Honda’s recent decision to close a plant in Swindon with the loss of 3,500 jobs — unrelated, it says, to Brexit (ha-ha) — and Nissan’s recent retrenchment are signs, along with slower growth and lower investment, of the price Britain has already paid for uncertainty but No-deal Brexit would turn uncertainty into mayhem.

As May maneuvers to save her deal, chiefly by adjusting the “backstop,” and the feckless Jeremy Corbyn maneuvers to keep his fingerprint off the BREXIT button, while not so secretly aiding and abetting it at every turn; the bottom line is simple: Brexit has been, is and will always be a disaster for Britain. The 2016 vote was manipulated through lies. A country that has benefited from its 46-year participation in a union of more than a half-billion Europeans is drifting toward a self-amputation understood by few, opposed by the young, abetted by dissembling anti-market socialists, driven by little-England Tory right-wingers holding the country for ransom, and, according to polls, no longer wanted by the majority in the country.

Surly the best option, now that the country has sobered up and the land of milk and honey promised looks more like a jobless desert, now we all know what leave really means, is to put Britain’s future and choices to a properly democratic people’s vote.

(Based on Roger Cohen opinion piece in the New York Times)

"

No we do not moaner,nobody knows what will happen.I see like all remoaners you pinched an article that suits your warped mind,I have noticed you lot do not think for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The land of milk and honey promised by the Vote Leave campaign in 2016 has been sucked into the BREXIT vortex and turned into a national nightmare.

Brexit. Brexit? Brexit! BREXIT!? The Backstop! Norway Plus! Canada Minus? The Cooper Amendment! The Malthouse Compromise? The Kyle-Wilson Amendment! Hard Brexit! Soft Brexit! No deal? Brexiteer! Remoaner! BREXIT!!?? Aaaargh.

It has come down to this with a few weeks to go until the March 29 deadline for Britain to leave the European Union, as it voted to do almost three years ago: a jumble of jargon, jousting and gibberish, with everyone sucked into the vortex of confusion, to the exclusion of every other issue in the world. Britain’s biggest political parties are splintering, and there is clarity only on the fact that nobody has a clue what is about to happen.

So much for the panacea offered in 2016 by leaders of the Vote Leave campaign — a land of milk and honey in which an island liberated from European shackles would become “Global Britain,” money would flow, cold sores would be cured, children would become more beautiful, the soil more bountiful, and the world Britain’s oyster. These days, the fantasy has sagged into a mumbled, “Well, Brexit is not the end of the world.”, "We'll survive" and "it was worse in the war" but nobody actually agrees on where going.

May’s deal, overwhelmingly rejected by Parliament last month, is a fudge. It leaves the nature of Britain’s future relationship with the European Union to be decided over the next two years. Everything — the fate of the customs union, of the single market, of the Ireland-United Kingdom border — remains either totally unresolved or relsoves down to worse than we have now.

Article 7 of May’s proposed agreement — call it the disempowerment clause — says that after March 29, European Union law “shall be understood as including the United Kingdom” except as regards “the participation in the decision making and governance of the bodies, offices and agencies of the Union.” In other words, things remain as they are except that Britain loses its voice, its vote and its veto. This is what exiting from the union actually means; the greatest single voluntary transfer of sovereignty from the UK to the EU ever. "Take Back Control”: not.

Is the best the country can come up with, after negotiations that have consumed the entire political energy of all sides (and untold amounts of money) a kick-the-can-down-the-road measure designed only to avert the calamity of a no-deal Brexit or Britain crashing out of the EU on March 29 into a void. "Bring it on!" say the hard-line BREXITERS in May’s party, their appetite for destruction still unquenched.

Honda’s recent decision to close a plant in Swindon with the loss of 3,500 jobs — unrelated, it says, to Brexit (ha-ha) — and Nissan’s recent retrenchment are signs, along with slower growth and lower investment, of the price Britain has already paid for uncertainty but No-deal Brexit would turn uncertainty into mayhem.

As May maneuvers to save her deal, chiefly by adjusting the “backstop,” and the feckless Jeremy Corbyn maneuvers to keep his fingerprint off the BREXIT button, while not so secretly aiding and abetting it at every turn; the bottom line is simple: Brexit has been, is and will always be a disaster for Britain. The 2016 vote was manipulated through lies. A country that has benefited from its 46-year participation in a union of more than a half-billion Europeans is drifting toward a self-amputation understood by few, opposed by the young, abetted by dissembling anti-market socialists, driven by little-England Tory right-wingers holding the country for ransom, and, according to polls, no longer wanted by the majority in the country.

Surly the best option, now that the country has sobered up and the land of milk and honey promised looks more like a jobless desert, now we all know what leave really means, is to put Britain’s future and choices to a properly democratic people’s vote.

(Based on Roger Cohen opinion piece in the New York Times)

No we do not moaner,nobody knows what will happen.I see like all remoaners you pinched an article that suits your warped mind,I have noticed you lot do not think for themselves."

That’s you told, without even a hint of irony.

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By *ou only live onceMan  over a year ago

London


"Less trade

Pay more for everything (Cheese and Beef will be much more expensive on the news today the horror the horror)

Going to have to fill those skilled gaps with people outside the EU. (That May upset a few)

Pay to go on holiday to Europe.

Even more red tape and bureaucracy

I fail to see what’s not to like. "

But blue passports to go on holiday with! And just smell that beautiful sovereignty (which was always there, but whisper that, ok...)

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental

There are two given facts in life :

You are born From Between your mothers legs and you end up in a

a box. The rest is pure speculation! ??

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By *nleashedCraken OP   Man  over a year ago

Widnes


"

The land of milk and honey promised by the Vote Leave campaign in 2016 has been sucked into the BREXIT vortex and turned into a national nightmare.

Brexit. Brexit? Brexit! BREXIT!? The Backstop! Norway Plus! Canada Minus? The Cooper Amendment! The Malthouse Compromise? The Kyle-Wilson Amendment! Hard Brexit! Soft Brexit! No deal? Brexiteer! Remoaner! BREXIT!!?? Aaaargh.

It has come down to this with a few weeks to go until the March 29 deadline for Britain to leave the European Union, as it voted to do almost three years ago: a jumble of jargon, jousting and gibberish, with everyone sucked into the vortex of confusion, to the exclusion of every other issue in the world. Britain’s biggest political parties are splintering, and there is clarity only on the fact that nobody has a clue what is about to happen.

So much for the panacea offered in 2016 by leaders of the Vote Leave campaign — a land of milk and honey in which an island liberated from European shackles would become “Global Britain,” money would flow, cold sores would be cured, children would become more beautiful, the soil more bountiful, and the world Britain’s oyster. These days, the fantasy has sagged into a mumbled, “Well, Brexit is not the end of the world.”, "We'll survive" and "it was worse in the war" but nobody actually agrees on where going.

May’s deal, overwhelmingly rejected by Parliament last month, is a fudge. It leaves the nature of Britain’s future relationship with the European Union to be decided over the next two years. Everything — the fate of the customs union, of the single market, of the Ireland-United Kingdom border — remains either totally unresolved or relsoves down to worse than we have now.

Article 7 of May’s proposed agreement — call it the disempowerment clause — says that after March 29, European Union law “shall be understood as including the United Kingdom” except as regards “the participation in the decision making and governance of the bodies, offices and agencies of the Union.” In other words, things remain as they are except that Britain loses its voice, its vote and its veto. This is what exiting from the union actually means; the greatest single voluntary transfer of sovereignty from the UK to the EU ever. "Take Back Control”: not.

Is the best the country can come up with, after negotiations that have consumed the entire political energy of all sides (and untold amounts of money) a kick-the-can-down-the-road measure designed only to avert the calamity of a no-deal Brexit or Britain crashing out of the EU on March 29 into a void. "Bring it on!" say the hard-line BREXITERS in May’s party, their appetite for destruction still unquenched.

Honda’s recent decision to close a plant in Swindon with the loss of 3,500 jobs — unrelated, it says, to Brexit (ha-ha) — and Nissan’s recent retrenchment are signs, along with slower growth and lower investment, of the price Britain has already paid for uncertainty but No-deal Brexit would turn uncertainty into mayhem.

As May maneuvers to save her deal, chiefly by adjusting the “backstop,” and the feckless Jeremy Corbyn maneuvers to keep his fingerprint off the BREXIT button, while not so secretly aiding and abetting it at every turn; the bottom line is simple: Brexit has been, is and will always be a disaster for Britain. The 2016 vote was manipulated through lies. A country that has benefited from its 46-year participation in a union of more than a half-billion Europeans is drifting toward a self-amputation understood by few, opposed by the young, abetted by dissembling anti-market socialists, driven by little-England Tory right-wingers holding the country for ransom, and, according to polls, no longer wanted by the majority in the country.

Surly the best option, now that the country has sobered up and the land of milk and honey promised looks more like a jobless desert, now we all know what leave really means, is to put Britain’s future and choices to a properly democratic people’s vote.

(Based on Roger Cohen opinion piece in the New York Times)

No we do not moaner,nobody knows what will happen.I see like all remoaners you pinched an article that suits your warped mind,I have noticed you lot do not think for themselves.

That’s you told, without even a hint of irony. "

I just love the deeply thoughtful and nuanced subtleties of BREXITER'S posts. LOL

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"There are two given facts in life :

You are born From Between your mothers legs and you end up in a

a box. The rest is pure speculation! ?? "

Julius Ceasar !!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

The time is right for a true leader to actually lead and do the right thing by cancelling article 50. Then being pregnant to take all of the shit sent their way but stating that leaving is too much worse than remaining.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The time is right for a true leader to actually lead and do the right thing by cancelling article 50. Then being pregnant to take all of the shit sent their way but stating that leaving is too much worse than remaining."

Aside from the pregnant thing.

Yeah that’s one of the reasons why I don’t want another referendum. We need a leader to stand up and do what’s right and not be afraid of losing votes. Asking the people to vote on something like this clearly does not work.

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By *ammskiMan  over a year ago

lytham st.annes


"The time is right for a true leader to actually lead and do the right thing by cancelling article 50. Then being pregnant to take all of the shit sent their way but stating that leaving is too much worse than remaining.

Aside from the pregnant thing.

Yeah that’s one of the reasons why I don’t want another referendum. We need a leader to stand up and do what’s right and not be afraid of losing votes. Asking the people to vote on something like this clearly does not work.

"

Why does it not work,is it because you lost the vote.If the vote had gone the other way,i suppose you would say that it is ok to ask the people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The time is right for a true leader to actually lead and do the right thing by cancelling article 50. Then being pregnant to take all of the shit sent their way but stating that leaving is too much worse than remaining.

Aside from the pregnant thing.

Yeah that’s one of the reasons why I don’t want another referendum. We need a leader to stand up and do what’s right and not be afraid of losing votes. Asking the people to vote on something like this clearly does not work.

Why does it not work,is it because you lost the vote.If the vote had gone the other way,i suppose you would say that it is ok to ask the people "

No, when one option is clearly worse than the other it’s a bad idea to have a referendum. Giving people the opportunity to vote themselves into a worse situation purely to benefit a few ultra rich individuals isn’t a good idea. We have all the evidence we need for my argument, it’s currently happening right now.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby

Please can someone start another thread for remainers to moan about brexit there’s just not enough of them on here lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Please can someone start another thread for remainers to moan about brexit there’s just not enough of them on here lol"

Fair cop

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are two given facts in life :

You are born From Between your mothers legs and you end up in a

a box. The rest is pure speculation! ?? "

Caesarean section

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"

The land of milk and honey promised by the Vote Leave campaign in 2016 has been sucked into the BREXIT vortex and turned into a national nightmare.

Brexit. Brexit? Brexit! BREXIT!? The Backstop! Norway Plus! Canada Minus? The Cooper Amendment! The Malthouse Compromise? The Kyle-Wilson Amendment! Hard Brexit! Soft Brexit! No deal? Brexiteer! Remoaner! BREXIT!!?? Aaaargh.

It has come down to this with a few weeks to go until the March 29 deadline for Britain to leave the European Union, as it voted to do almost three years ago: a jumble of jargon, jousting and gibberish, with everyone sucked into the vortex of confusion, to the exclusion of every other issue in the world. Britain’s biggest political parties are splintering, and there is clarity only on the fact that nobody has a clue what is about to happen.

So much for the panacea offered in 2016 by leaders of the Vote Leave campaign — a land of milk and honey in which an island liberated from European shackles would become “Global Britain,” money would flow, cold sores would be cured, children would become more beautiful, the soil more bountiful, and the world Britain’s oyster. These days, the fantasy has sagged into a mumbled, “Well, Brexit is not the end of the world.”, "We'll survive" and "it was worse in the war" but nobody actually agrees on where going.

May’s deal, overwhelmingly rejected by Parliament last month, is a fudge. It leaves the nature of Britain’s future relationship with the European Union to be decided over the next two years. Everything — the fate of the customs union, of the single market, of the Ireland-United Kingdom border — remains either totally unresolved or relsoves down to worse than we have now.

Article 7 of May’s proposed agreement — call it the disempowerment clause — says that after March 29, European Union law “shall be understood as including the United Kingdom” except as regards “the participation in the decision making and governance of the bodies, offices and agencies of the Union.” In other words, things remain as they are except that Britain loses its voice, its vote and its veto. This is what exiting from the union actually means; the greatest single voluntary transfer of sovereignty from the UK to the EU ever. "Take Back Control”: not.

Is the best the country can come up with, after negotiations that have consumed the entire political energy of all sides (and untold amounts of money) a kick-the-can-down-the-road measure designed only to avert the calamity of a no-deal Brexit or Britain crashing out of the EU on March 29 into a void. "Bring it on!" say the hard-line BREXITERS in May’s party, their appetite for destruction still unquenched.

Honda’s recent decision to close a plant in Swindon with the loss of 3,500 jobs — unrelated, it says, to Brexit (ha-ha) — and Nissan’s recent retrenchment are signs, along with slower growth and lower investment, of the price Britain has already paid for uncertainty but No-deal Brexit would turn uncertainty into mayhem.

As May maneuvers to save her deal, chiefly by adjusting the “backstop,” and the feckless Jeremy Corbyn maneuvers to keep his fingerprint off the BREXIT button, while not so secretly aiding and abetting it at every turn; the bottom line is simple: Brexit has been, is and will always be a disaster for Britain. The 2016 vote was manipulated through lies. A country that has benefited from its 46-year participation in a union of more than a half-billion Europeans is drifting toward a self-amputation understood by few, opposed by the young, abetted by dissembling anti-market socialists, driven by little-England Tory right-wingers holding the country for ransom, and, according to polls, no longer wanted by the majority in the country.

Surly the best option, now that the country has sobered up and the land of milk and honey promised looks more like a jobless desert, now we all know what leave really means, is to put Britain’s future and choices to a properly democratic people’s vote.

(Based on Roger Cohen opinion piece in the New York Times)

"

And all of it easily predictable if anyone remain or leave ever thought we would not have a shambolic mess of disagreement they were deluded x

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