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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

Triggering more volcanic eruptions. Only gonna get worse! Book your holidays carefully..

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Oh dear what are all the global warming brigade going to do when the earth starts getting colder again?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"Oh dear what are all the global warming brigade going to do when the earth starts getting colder again?

Glue themselves to something i assume. *shurgs*

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Its predicted to last only for 70 years so i guess the kids of the kids who are trying to cool the earth will be trying to warm it up again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Phew. I am so relieved that the melting of the cavity of the Thwaites crater is responsible for the cavity and not global warming.

It's like finding a murder victim with two bullet wounds and a knife sticking out of them and then pronouncing that they died of natural causes when you find out they had cancer too.

Yes there are natural events that change weather patterns. Yes climatic change exists. No its isn't supposed to change at 50 times the normal rate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh a science thread started by the anti science team.

Marking this for future hilarity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh a science thread started by the anti science team.

Marking this for future hilarity."

It's all good news really. We don't have to worry about the Amazon burning, because Australia is burning too. We don't have to worry about the glaciers because one of them has a volcano adding to the damage we're doing. Phew!

Steak for dinner every night this week!

Can't stand that 17 year old wanting oxygen in the air for her generation. Who does she think she is?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"Oh a science thread started by the anti science team.

Marking this for future hilarity.

Steak for dinner every night this week!

Can't stand that 17 year old wanting oxygen in the air for her generation. Who does she think she is?"

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh a science thread started by the anti science team.

Marking this for future hilarity.

Steak for dinner every night this week!

Can't stand that 17 year old wanting oxygen in the air for her generation. Who does she think she is?

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

Nope. I can see it too.

It's how I know when my coca cola has gone flat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://youtu.be/ewJ6TI8ccAw

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"Oh dear what are all the global warming brigade going to do when the earth starts getting colder again?

Glue themselves to something i assume. *shurgs*"

You're not someone who is in full agreement with most professional climate science experts c. 99% of whom accept the evidence for man made global heating?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear what are all the global warming brigade going to do when the earth starts getting colder again?

Glue themselves to something i assume. *shurgs*

You're not someone who is in full agreement with most professional climate science experts c. 99% of whom accept the evidence for man made global heating?

The OP is famously in agreement with the 1% who have their research paid for by the fossil fuels industry.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"Oh dear what are all the global warming brigade going to do when the earth starts getting colder again?

Glue themselves to something i assume. *shurgs*

You're not someone who is in full agreement with most professional climate science experts c. 99% of whom accept the evidence for man made global heating?

97...

The mainstream media peddle the claim that 97% of (climate) scientists believe in man-made Global-Warming and that, therefore, there is no debate to be had on the subject. This is false and irrelevant. To get the 97% figure, they basically counted people who had mentioned Climate-Change in an abstract or heading of a scientific paper. Dr Legates has reviewed the work and shows that, in fact, only 0.3% of the papers claim that ‘man had caused most post-1950 warming’.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was reading recently that iof the 3% 38 papers put to peer review over the last 10 years were found to have errors that placed them back in line with 97%..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear what are all the global warming brigade going to do when the earth starts getting colder again?

Glue themselves to something i assume. *shurgs*

You're not someone who is in full agreement with most professional climate science experts c. 99% of whom accept the evidence for man made global heating?

97...

You could believe

A. A man on the internet who doesn't understand information, doesn't know what science is. On his side we have Trump, the oil industry, Alex Jones and UKIP

B. All the world's climate scientists not employed by the fossil fuels industry. On this side we have everyone who can read and understand the science and information.

Fuck the guardian in general. But this illustrates the level of consensus.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99

This article explains some very basic premises. For those who want a basic overview.

https://www.iflscience.com/environment/things-people-ask-about-scientific-consensus-climate-change/

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Th only thing thing that is important is there is consensus.

If 9 out of 10 doctors diagnosed you with cancer you’re always going to get a fool who chooses the 1 who gives them the alll clear.

Let them be ..

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

Except of course she never actually claimed she can see CO2. It was a metaphor.

Good grief, climate conspiracy theorists are so dumb it's painful.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

Except of course she never actually claimed she can see CO2. It was a metaphor.

Good grief, climate conspiracy theorists are so dumb it's painful. "

I guess we'd have to ask her dad what he ment..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

Except of course she never actually claimed she can see CO2. It was a metaphor.

Good grief, climate conspiracy theorists are so dumb it's painful. "

It’s an ongoing smear campaign to question her mental health by sad individuals.

We should be more concerned about the mental health of adults who feel threatened by a passionate child climate change activist.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

This on the day that research is published showing that the worlds oceans to a depth of 2,000 meters are the hottest ever, with heating over the past decade also showing consistent heating and the hottest decade on record. This is a major concern a our oceans absorb 90% of the world's heat.

It's tragic that some minds feebly are unable or unwilling to study the IPCC reports and credible published experts evidence. Instead, we get some pitiful excuses for alternative viewpoints, supporting deniers paid for by the fossil fuel industry etc.

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I just think mother nature is a beautiful powerful thing x

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

Except of course she never actually claimed she can see CO2. It was a metaphor.

Good grief, climate conspiracy theorists are so dumb it's painful.

It’s an ongoing smear campaign to question her mental health by sad individuals.

We should be more concerned about the mental health of adults who feel threatened by a passionate child climate change activist.

She doesn't write her own posts or speeches, it's not about Greta.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"This on the day that research is published showing that the worlds oceans to a depth of 2,000 meters are the hottest ever, with heating over the past decade also showing consistent heating and the hottest decade on record. This is a major concern a our oceans absorb 90% of the world's heat.

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it. "

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes. "

Oh the irony.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

Except of course she never actually claimed she can see CO2. It was a metaphor.

Good grief, climate conspiracy theorists are so dumb it's painful.

It’s an ongoing smear campaign to question her mental health by sad individuals.

We should be more concerned about the mental health of adults who feel threatened by a passionate child climate change activist.

She doesn't write her own posts or speeches, it's not about Greta."

In her own words...Enjoy

“Of course the ongoing hate campaigns never rests…

There is at least one new conspiracy theory a day.

The latest - and perhaps most entertaining - spin is that ”I can see CO2 with my own eyes”.

This is of course a metaphor from a book taken out of it's context, taken from a German newspaper.

No one has said that I can literally see CO2… that is beyond stupid.

This should of course not be necessary to mention but since some respected newspapers have written about this without realizing that this is a fake news campaign I thought it was best to point this out.

While I am at it I also want to point out that when I say that ”our civilisation is almost like a castle built in the sand” or that ”our house on fire” these are metaphors too

PS This book is written by my family and our earnings from this book will go to charity.

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By *oi_LucyCouple over a year ago

Barbados

That's a 17 year old who is the only human in history that can actually see CO2....

Except of course she never actually claimed she can see CO2. It was a metaphor.

Good grief, climate conspiracy theorists are so dumb it's painful.

It’s an ongoing smear campaign to question her mental health by sad individuals.

We should be more concerned about the mental health of adults who feel threatened by a passionate child climate change activist.

She doesn't write her own posts or speeches, it's not about Greta.

In her own words...Enjoy

“Of course the ongoing hate campaigns never rests…

There is at least one new conspiracy theory a day.

The latest - and perhaps most entertaining - spin is that ”I can see CO2 with my own eyes”.

This is of course a metaphor from a book taken out of it's context, taken from a German newspaper.

No one has said that I can literally see CO2… that is beyond stupid.

While I am at it I also want to point out that when I say that ”our civilisation is almost like a castle built in the sand” or that ”our house on fire” these are metaphors too

PS This book is written by my family and our earnings from this book will go to charity.

Hahahaha. Brilliant. I love how she causes so many middle aged men so much insecurity.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://youtu.be/gl99R6FM5s8

This helped me with my anger issues. I hope it helps others too...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If Trump wrote his own speeches he wouldn't use unpronounceable words like.....

"Tolerated"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?"

The river Severn will be closer your house.You could take your bucket and spade there..

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?"

With record cold temperatures across Canada last night, it seems unlikely.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?

With record cold temperatures across Canada last night, it seems unlikely. "

I remember years ago being taught in school that Peterborough would be a seaside resort still not happened.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well, everytime I go to the coast it never looks any different

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?

With record cold temperatures across Canada last night, it seems unlikely.

I remember years ago being taught in school that Peterborough would be a seaside resort still not happened. "

Really? You must have gone to a terrible school

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love the logic of climate change deniers.

I had fabulous meal last night all this talk of world hunger is absolute bollocks.

There are no starving people on this planet.

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By *an For YouMan over a year ago

belfast/holywood

It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks"

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

Think of all that potential pollution from heating systems that's being saved from the environment if it's been nice n warm

Great news don't you think

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By *an For YouMan over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

That’s great - everyone saves on their heating bills during what used to be a tadge chilly time of year

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By *an For YouMan over a year ago

belfast/holywood

And here...... you see all these millions of electric cars due in the next few years ......where us this dramatic demand for electricity coming from?. We can barely keep the grid going when we want to cook a turkey once a year. But everyone plugging in a million cars each night ?. That’s a lot of windmills ( which everyone complains about cos they are ugly). Nuclear?- far too dangerous . Gas ?- fossil fuel - bad . Coal - ?god no unless you are a yank or Chinese. Solar?. Nah - upsets birds that cannot land on your roof . Tidal leccy - ?bad for the fish. Fracking?... too many loony left protesters. Oil?.. running out. Any ideas ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

Think of all that potential pollution from heating systems that's being saved from the environment if it's been nice n warm

Great news don't you think

Yes it’s awesome.Nothing like a flaming kangaroo to bring in the new year...

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By *an For YouMan over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

Think of all that potential pollution from heating systems that's being saved from the environment if it's been nice n warm

Great news don't you think

Yes it’s awesome.Nothing like a flaming kangaroo to bring in the new year...

Exactly - those kangas need culling real bad. Hurting too many fences

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Exactly there’s nothing more heart warming than a koala bear spontaneously combusting.

Gives you that warm fuzzy feeling..

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

Just weather though isn't it? Or are the record cold temperatures in Canada evidence of global cooling? Or is anything unusually warm, climate change, and anything unusually cold, weather?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

Think of all that potential pollution from heating systems that's being saved from the environment if it's been nice n warm

Great news don't you think

Yes it’s awesome.Nothing like a flaming kangaroo to bring in the new year...

Saves cooking it in the oven, win win yet again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It has been a bit chilly lately. Mind you - it is winter. Just put an extra jumper on folks

A new maximum temperature for December in the UK has been confirmed.

A temperature of 18.7C was reached at Achfary, in the Scottish Highlands, on 28 December.

The Met Office has now verified it was the hottest day of the month on record in Britain.

Think of all that potential pollution from heating systems that's being saved from the environment if it's been nice n warm

Great news don't you think

Yes it’s awesome.Nothing like a flaming kangaroo to bring in the new year...

Saves cooking it in the oven, win win yet again

Now there is no need to ,throw another koala on the barbie mate ...

You can pluck them from trees ready cooked..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?

With record cold temperatures across Canada last night, it seems unlikely.

I remember years ago being taught in school that Peterborough would be a seaside resort still not happened.

Really? You must have gone to a terrible school

It's an urban myth

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?

With record cold temperatures across Canada last night, it seems unlikely.

I remember years ago being taught in school that Peterborough would be a seaside resort still not happened.

Really? You must have gone to a terrible school

It's an urban myth

There’s an urban myth that says if you utter Greta Thunberg's name three times over a vegan sausage roll, an angry middle-aged man's willy drops off.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If global warming causes sea level rises the will the beaches be nearer to my house?

With record cold temperatures across Canada last night, it seems unlikely.

I remember years ago being taught in school that Peterborough would be a seaside resort still not happened.

Really? You must have gone to a terrible school

It's an urban myth

Bath tub effect theory doesn't work. You cannot measure sea level in one place.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As the Gulf stream slows England will get colder.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes. "

You deny the human caused global heating then?

The current records are showing 2019 ocean temperatures from the surface through several thousand meters down, are the hottest on record and 2019 air temperature 2nd highest on record, second to 2016 which had the influences of man made global heating and a natural el nino event, which added to the heating effect.

Think about it. Last year was the hottest on record in the oceans, which hold more than 90% of the heat on earth. And last years land temperature 2nd highest, but for 2016. The last decade was the hottest ever.

Evidence shows humans have caused that heating - the natural influences are miniscule within that huge heating increase.

We all are driven by our motivationss in life and perhaps you really don't care. And yet you care enough to repeatedly post BS that is totally opposite to what all climatolgy experts state. I'm assuming that you have zero expertise, notwithstanding flippant comment posting, in that scientific area.

You mention wool pulled over my eyes. I'm as readily duped as the next person but I hold those with far greater expertise than I, with reasonable credibility, when understanding their work, increasing this esteem within the context of the literature, which is in full general agreement.

If you are unable to cite credible research evidence that is contrary to the acknowledged position of the significant global expertise, it simply seems a facile mindset, for whatever your challenges are with this or people here.

Thankfully there is extensive data and pertinent analysis out there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Triggering more volcanic eruptions. Only gonna get worse! Book your holidays carefully.."
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Tell me more I'm interested in how a grand solar minium could trigger volcanoes?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes.

You deny the human caused global heating then?

Evidence shows humans have caused that heating - the natural influences are miniscule within that huge heating increase.

Thankfully there is extensive data and pertinent analysis out there. "

If course there is there's an industry built upon it, and a huge ponzy scheme being pushed by the UN to "fix" it...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes.

You deny the human caused global heating then?

Evidence shows humans have caused that heating - the natural influences are miniscule within that huge heating increase.

Thankfully there is extensive data and pertinent analysis out there. "

2019 is becoming known in some circles as the year we reached consensus on this.

Since it has become known that the Koch Brothers ploughed millions of dollars into false science it has been widely accepted that the fruit from this poisonous tree is untrustworthy.

For people to still believe in the lie even after it has been exposed as such just proves people will believe whatever they want to believe regardless of the facts. Al Gore called it the inconvenient truth because it is just that. Inconvenient. We need to change and that's not easy. It's easier to stick your head in the sand.

Yes there are places where climate change is natural. But when things are changing at 50 times the normal rate.... come on!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes.

You deny the human caused global heating then?

Evidence shows humans have caused that heating - the natural influences are miniscule within that huge heating increase.

Thankfully there is extensive data and pertinent analysis out there.

If course there is there's an industry built upon it, and a huge ponzy scheme being pushed by the UN to "fix" it..."

Innuendo is not evidence of anything, except a lack of credible evidence.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

Do you know by how many degrees the sea has warmed above the previous average?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes.

You deny the human caused global heating then?

Evidence shows humans have caused that heating - the natural influences are miniscule within that huge heating increase.

Thankfully there is extensive data and pertinent analysis out there.

If course there is there's an industry built upon it, and a huge ponzy scheme being pushed by the UN to "fix" it..."

Notwithstanding any ponzi scheme that may exist - do you refute the acknowledged position that humans are the cause of the significant levels of climate heating underway? What's previously been referred to by others, as man made climate change? As you've referred to, this is not the transient weather but the long term climate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Triggering more volcanic eruptions. Only gonna get worse! Book your holidays carefully...

Tell me more I'm interested in how a grand solar minium could trigger volcanoes?"

When this was first mentioned I was interested but was not given a link. On googling this there are reports going back to 2014 about volcano/volcanoes in this region. It may account for a huge cavern in the Thwaites glacier but does not detract from the fact that warmer ocean currents are melting the glaciers at an alarming rate.

Just because there is evidence of natural warming does not disprove the existence of anthropogenic climate change.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"Do you know by how many degrees the sea has warmed above the previous average?"

Anyone?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do you know by how many degrees the sea has warmed above the previous average?

Anyone?"

Why would anyone attempt to answer a fact based question when you ignore facts, information, and context, in favour of rumour and speculation peddled by the fossil fuels industry.

The only interesting question here is why people deny scientific understanding and knowledge.

My favourite theory is that it's just easier to crack on as is, ignoring the world around them in blissful ignorance. And that the problem is too much for some people to comprehend.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The last decade has been confirmed as warmest on record. The 10 years to the end of 2019 have been confirmed as the warmest decade on record by three global agencies. According to Nasa, Noaa and the UK Met Office, last year was the second warmest in a record dating back to 1850.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"Do you know by how many degrees the sea has warmed above the previous average?

Anyone?"

So no one knows... amazing..

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

" The last decade has been confirmed as warmest on record. The 10 years to the end of 2019 have been confirmed as the warmest decade on record by three global agencies. According to Nasa, Noaa and the UK Met Office, last year was the second warmest in a record dating back to 1850.

What was the co2 ppm content in 1850? Must have been high to attain higher temperatures back then i guess.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Do you know by how many degrees the sea has warmed above the previous average?

Anyone?"

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-sea-surface-temperature

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By *V-AliceTV/TS over a year ago

Ayr

"Do you know by how many degrees the sea has warmed above the previous average?

Anyone?

So no one knows... amazing.."

It's not amazing that you don't know.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

"Do you know by how many degrees the sea has warmed above the previous average?

Anyone?

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-sea-surface-temperature"

So, approx 0.6 of a degree Celsius above the mean.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man over a year ago

salisbury

2019 ocean temp was 0.075C warmer than the 1981-2010 average...

Im not going to panic just yet.

I wonder who sponsored the study?

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By *limmatureguyMan over a year ago

Tonbridge

In the linked article that say

Based on the historical record, increases in sea surface temperature have largely occurred over two key periods: between 1910 and 1940, and from about 1970 to the present.

Why did it warm between 1910 and 1940 when we weren't chucking out much co2? Could it be that the warming between 1970 and the present day is caused by something other than co2 just like 1910 to 1940?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Triggering more volcanic eruptions. Only gonna get worse! Book your holidays carefully...

Tell me more I'm interested in how a grand solar minium could trigger volcanoes?

Just because there is evidence of natural warming does not disprove the existence of anthropogenic climate change."
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O i was genuinely interested in the mechanics of it but alas there's no answers?.

From what I googled it seems there's a suggestion between the magnetosphere and solar intensity but there's nothing concrete.

Have we measured the magnetosphere dropping in recent years?, is there just a correlation or actual science on the relationship?.

Too many questions and not enough answers.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The point of questioning the certainty of catastrophic global heating underway that's predominantly caused by humans is already passed. Deniers you missed it.

The wool has already been pulled over your eyes.

You deny the human caused global heating then?

Evidence shows humans have caused that heating - the natural influences are miniscule within that huge heating increase.

Thankfully there is extensive data and pertinent analysis out there.

If course there is there's an industry built upon it, and a huge ponzy scheme being pushed by the UN to "fix" it...

I note no reply, whilst other comments made, deflecting away from this point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What was the co2 ppm content in 1850? Must have been high to attain higher temperatures back then i guess. "

Here's an idea. Instead of staying confused. Why not try reading up on the science behind climate change.

Learning, knowledge and understanding is the way to beat ignorance in any given subject.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple over a year ago

West Wales

"Phew. I am so relieved that the melting of the cavity of the Thwaites crater is responsible for the cavity and not global warming.

It's like finding a murder victim with two bullet wounds and a knife sticking out of them and then pronouncing that they died of natural causes when you find out they had cancer too.

Yes there are natural events that change weather patterns. Yes climatic change exists. No its isn't supposed to change at 50 times the normal rate. "

Ok, So then what difference does it make? We are not “Killing the planet” we can’t & we could start ww3 and pretty much wipe ourselves out & we still wouldn’t be killing the planet!

Ok so killing off whole species of animal life isn’t big or clever but 95% of species were already extinct long before we arrived on the scene.

No matter what we do this planet will continue on its merry way for around another five billion years. Before the Sun runs out of fuel & it gets cooked.

When man loses his ego & wakes up to the fact that in the whole scheme of things not only are we as insignificant as one grain of sand on the Earth but so is the Earth itself.

By the way I’m not saying do nothing at all I’m just doubtful of the integrity of any “plan/remedy” where someone is making money or multi million pound companies need government subsidies to go “Green”.

I do dislike Greta though, reminds me of a certain German who made speeches in Nuremberg. Mind you least he wrote his own stuff.