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"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer" If they view the people they are meeting as actual women then I think this explains their reasoning for saying they're straight. Also, let's be honest, men constantly moan about having zero luck on here so any changes to their profile which are likely to further reduce their chances are unlikely to happen. I agree with you though. | |||
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"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer If they view the people they are meeting as actual women then I think this explains their reasoning for saying they're straight. Also, let's be honest, men constantly moan about having zero luck on here so any changes to their profile which are likely to further reduce their chances are unlikely to happen. I agree with you though." Yes just be honest men on your profiles as prefer 100 per cent straight x | |||
"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer" If a Straight guy does something with a Straight post-op transwoman, are they Bi? No. The transwoman will be registered as a TS on here. If they register as a woman the profile will probably be reported and changed by admin to be TS anyway. Both the Straight guy and the Straight transwoman are being honest. | |||
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"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer" Their profile. Their choice. If they are showing veris from tv/ts they are sort of telling you are they not. If not your thing move on or block. Fab won't hand anyone perfect matches. Due diligence is required. | |||
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"Sadly being bi for a man is less socially acceptable than when a woman is bi The biphobia on here is rife " Honest question and not looking for a rammy... Is it biphobia if many women simply find the thought of man with another man a turn off and therefore chose not to consider that person as a sexual partner? For example, I've spoke with guys on here who I initially found very attractive and then found out they were into cross dressing. It effectively turned off my horn as I am not into that at all. | |||
"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning!" Why not just say he is attracted to feminine men then? | |||
"Sadly being bi for a man is less socially acceptable than when a woman is bi The biphobia on here is rife Honest question and not looking for a rammy... Is it biphobia if many women simply find the thought of man with another man a turn off and therefore chose not to consider that person as a sexual partner? For example, I've spoke with guys on here who I initially found very attractive and then found out they were into cross dressing. It effectively turned off my horn as I am not into that at all. " Exactly having a preference is not bi phobia. Or any other phobia. We like what we like. If others like things we don't then it's not a match. Phobias get banded about on here far too often | |||
"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning!" I agree some are stunning | |||
"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning! I agree some are stunning " So would you rather a guy was historically intimate with a MTF or an FTM trans person? Which makes the person more/less "straight"? Is more straight for him to have sex with someone assigned female at birth who now looks like Hulk Hogan, Vs assigned female at birth who now looks like Megan Fox? | |||
"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning! I agree some are stunning So would you rather a guy was historically intimate with a MTF or an FTM trans person? Which makes the person more/less "straight"? Is more straight for him to have sex with someone assigned female at birth who now looks like Hulk Hogan, Vs assigned female at birth who now looks like Megan Fox?" *Male at birth who now looks like Megan Fox... Sorry, it's been a long day with the kids  | |||
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"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning! I agree some are stunning " There are beautiful men and ugly women. That doesn't change the fact that they're men. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi . "No, because he had no idea it was a guy sucking him off. If he wasn't fussed and considered doing it again then I'd say he possibly was. If the thought of potentially being sucked off by a guy was enough to deter him in the future then I'd say he wasn't. I agree that it's more acceptable for women. Blame porn for that. | |||
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"Sadly being bi for a man is less socially acceptable than when a woman is bi The biphobia on here is rife " THIS  | |||
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"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning! Gynosexual? Seriously? He wants to shag a fanny doctor? How many labels do people need to feel included? " It's not about feeling included, it's about using a term which accurately describes one's sexual orientation. If we're saying that "attraction to feminity" is "straight" then fine, but the OP clearly doesn't believe this is the case. I.e., OP believes there is a difference between being attracted to cis women and trans women. This is a belief held by some, and there is a specific term to describe it. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynesexuality More language is good. It helps us more accurately describe the world around us.   | |||
"And last one so I am all caught up, why had a thread about a bi or straight guy turned into a debate about fucking a trans person? The question is if he has sex with men why not be honest and write bi? Nothing to do with if a trans person is considered male or female or who shags their OBGYN or if being a feminine looking man makes you less of a man. " That's not what the OP was about. They specifically said TV/TS. There is a seperate category on Fab for men | |||
"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning! Gynosexual? Seriously? He wants to shag a fanny doctor? How many labels do people need to feel included? It's not about feeling included, it's about using a term which accurately describes one's sexual orientation. If we're saying that "attraction to feminity" is "straight" then fine, but the OP clearly doesn't believe this is the case. I.e., OP believes there is a difference between being attracted to cis women and trans women. This is a belief held by some, and there is a specific term to describe it. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynesexuality More language is good. It helps us more accurately describe the world around us. "Maybe you are reading a different thread or I need to reread this one because there wasn't a mention of feminity in the OP. Straight guy who has sex with TS/TV. Maybe he loves pussy but thinks dicks are delicious. Not all TS/TV are feminine looking or acting. There is a huge difference between being attracted to women and being attracted to trans women. For the most part trans women appear as a caricature of women. Not all but most I have seen, exagerate what they think a woman looks like or acts like and base their persona on that. This is just my observation based opinion. | |||
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"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer" Are they scared of what people think | |||
"Some women won’t play with bi guys hence the reason they don’t out bi. Bi women are unicorns but bi men aren’t seen the same way. Everyone is entitled to put what they want on their profile and play with who they like. Not all verifications will be from play meets. It’s a judgemental place. " Out of curiosity why is that | |||
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"Sorry folks asked simple question But this has all blown off from original questioni asked "I don’t think it has at all. People are given you different reasons of why people choose the profile they have . I just never get the point in why others need to know why people choose what others have on their profiles if it doesn’t effect them  | |||
"It's definitely different for guys FF or mff is ok So many guys are scared to admit that they like bi fun Even to their own partner But it is frustrating the full bi male thing Straight on profile then message bi mf couples The other ones saying half bi, only receive Or give Ffs it's brutal " Half bi only received or give? There is top and bottom bi just as there is top and bottom gay. | |||
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"Sorry folks asked simple question But this has all blown off from original questioni asked I don’t think it has at all.
People are given you different reasons of why people choose the profile they have .
I just never get the point in why others need to know why people choose what others have on their profiles if it doesn’t effect them "I can see it being an issue if they are trying to contact bi men or couples or anyone looking for a bi man. Other than that, if you don't like a profile move on. Don't expect them to change their profile to suit you. It works both ways. | |||
"Sorry folks asked simple question But this has all blown off from original questioni asked I don’t think it has at all.
People are given you different reasons of why people choose the profile they have .
I just never get the point in why others need to know why people choose what others have on their profiles if it doesn’t effect them
I can see it being an issue if they are trying to contact bi men or couples or anyone looking for a bi man. Other than that, if you don't like a profile move on. Don't expect them to change their profile to suit you.
It works both ways. "Absolutely ! | |||
"It's definitely different for guys FF or mff is ok So many guys are scared to admit that they like bi fun Even to their own partner But it is frustrating the full bi male thing Straight on profile then message bi mf couples The other ones saying half bi, only receive Or give Ffs it's brutal Half bi only received or give? There is top and bottom bi just as there is top and bottom gay. " Half bi? I need to get down with the lingo. Does that mean you only sook the tip? | |||
"It's definitely different for guys FF or mff is ok So many guys are scared to admit that they like bi fun Even to their own partner But it is frustrating the full bi male thing Straight on profile then message bi mf couples The other ones saying half bi, only receive Or give Ffs it's brutal Half bi only received or give? There is top and bottom bi just as there is top and bottom gay. Half bi? I need to get down with the lingo. Does that mean you only sook the tip?" Fuck knows what half bi means. Maybe it's like when you tell a woman you'll only put half of it in. Little does she know it's the bottom half you meant. | |||
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"I can't say I browse many male profiles, but I can't remember ever seeing one that states they have no interest whatsoever in bi women, whereas I've seen plenty female profiles state they've no interest in bi males. Opinions on why this seems to be the case? " Maybe it has something to do with the lobby the boabie is sliding into. | |||
"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer If a Straight guy does something with a Straight post-op transwoman, are they Bi? No. The transwoman will be registered as a TS on here. If they register as a woman the profile will probably be reported and changed by admin to be TS anyway. Both the Straight guy and the Straight transwoman are being honest." Are you trying to say that if a straight guy has sex with a trans-woman, it means he's still straight? Nope! Sex between 2 biological males is still a gay act, no matter who identifies as who. Sorry. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi . "No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police. Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault."Shouldnt put your dick in somewhere like that then! Its of your own making if you dont know whats there! Man/woman/dog!!  | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
Shouldnt put your dick in somewhere like that then! Its of your own making if you dont know whats there! Man/woman/dog!! "So, it's the same as, "she was asking for it". Very good.  | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault."I'm not sure that stands with a glory hole. The whole point is you don't know who is on the other side and you take the chance. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
I'm not sure that stands with a glory hole. The whole point is you don't know who is on the other side and you take the chance. "If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy" This was the question I was responding to. Not when they've been lied to. It's sexual assault. | |||
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"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
I'm not sure that stands with a glory hole. The whole point is you don't know who is on the other side and you take the chance.
If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy"
This was the question I was responding to.
Not when they've been lied to. It's sexual assault."Him "believeing" it's a woman and him being told its a woman are very different. I can "believe" I'm going to win the lotto every time I buy a ticket. It doesn't mean it's true and it doesn't mean I was lied to. Maybe he should have a peek through the hole first. Then again, he will risk getting a cock in the eye. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
Shouldnt put your dick in somewhere like that then! Its of your own making if you dont know whats there! Man/woman/dog!!
So, it's the same as, "she was asking for it". Very good.
Are you mental? You think putting
your dick through a hole in the wall knowing it will be sucked but not knowing who will be sucking it is the same as a woman being attacked and forced to have sex against her will?
Read the whole thing.
A guy puts his dick in a hole after being told a woman will suck his dick, to find out later it was a guy, is sexual assault.
The respondent countered this by insinuating it would be the fault of the person being sexually assaulted.
Not that hard to grasp.
Read the whole thing. No mention of him being told a woman will suck it. Only that he believes a woman will suck it. Very very different "How on earth would he hold that belief if someone never told him. Would he go into a mens toilet and expect to be sucked off by a woman? No. | |||
"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer" Simple answer, it's none of your business and you need to question why you are trying to make it your business. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
Shouldnt put your dick in somewhere like that then! Its of your own making if you dont know whats there! Man/woman/dog!!
So, it's the same as, "she was asking for it". Very good.
Are you mental? You think putting
your dick through a hole in the wall knowing it will be sucked but not knowing who will be sucking it is the same as a woman being attacked and forced to have sex against her will?
Read the whole thing.
A guy puts his dick in a hole after being told a woman will suck his dick, to find out later it was a guy, is sexual assault.
The respondent countered this by insinuating it would be the fault of the person being sexually assaulted.
Not that hard to grasp.
Read the whole thing. No mention of him being told a woman will suck it. Only that he believes a woman will suck it. Very very different
How on earth would he hold that belief if someone never told him.
Would he go into a mens toilet and expect to be sucked off by a woman?
No. "Are you implying that people only believe something of they are told it? No one believes something through their own expectation? Unless its a club or designated event, most public glory holes are in men's toilets. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
Shouldnt put your dick in somewhere like that then! Its of your own making if you dont know whats there! Man/woman/dog!!
So, it's the same as, "she was asking for it". Very good.
Are you mental? You think putting
your dick through a hole in the wall knowing it will be sucked but not knowing who will be sucking it is the same as a woman being attacked and forced to have sex against her will?
Read the whole thing.
A guy puts his dick in a hole after being told a woman will suck his dick, to find out later it was a guy, is sexual assault.
The respondent countered this by insinuating it would be the fault of the person being sexually assaulted.
Not that hard to grasp.
Read the whole thing. No mention of him being told a woman will suck it. Only that he believes a woman will suck it. Very very different
How on earth would he hold that belief if someone never told him.
Would he go into a mens toilet and expect to be sucked off by a woman?
No.
Are you implying that people only believe something of they are told it? No one believes something through their own expectation?
Unless its a club or designated event, most public glory holes are in men's toilets. "And are you implying a guy just wakes up, thinks about sticking his dick into any hole anywhere and expects a woman to be on the other side? He believes a woman is on the other side because he's been led to believe that. | |||
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"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer" They're not hiding anything though. You can literally see that, regardless of what sexual orientation they've chosen to put on their profile, they want to meet a demographic that means you won't want to meet that individual. It's all there in black & white for you to make the choice. | |||
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"Fellas if your profile says straight but ur into meeting tv/ts why dont you be honest put bi? Nothing wrong with that just make profiles clearer" They probably don't want men messaging them as it'll come up on the search | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault."But he chose to put his penis in a hole when he didn't know who was on the other side. As far as I understand there are no rules on most glory holes that say who can be in there so its a risk you take. By using said hole he gave consent to the person on the other side to suck his penis, so no it's not abuse or assault. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
But he chose to put his penis in a hole when he didn't know who was on the other side.
As far as I understand there are no rules on most glory holes that say who can be in there so its a risk you take.
By using said hole he gave consent to the person on the other side to suck his penis, so no it's not abuse or assault.
"He would be giving consent to the woman he believes is on the other side. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
But he chose to put his penis in a hole when he didn't know who was on the other side.
As far as I understand there are no rules on most glory holes that say who can be in there so its a risk you take.
By using said hole he gave consent to the person on the other side to suck his penis, so no it's not abuse or assault.
He would be giving consent to the woman he believes is on the other side.
"Personally I think this is one of the worst arguments I've ever read. And I've never even used a gloryhole on either end, so I have no skin in the game. | |||
"If a “ straight guy “ uses a glory hole that he believes it’s a woman behind become bi if later he discovered it’s a guy ? As said before possibly it’s more acceptable for women than men to be bi .
No, he's been sexually assaulted and should report it to the Police.
Obtaining sex by deception in the UK is sexual assault.
But he chose to put his penis in a hole when he didn't know who was on the other side.
As far as I understand there are no rules on most glory holes that say who can be in there so its a risk you take.
By using said hole he gave consent to the person on the other side to suck his penis, so no it's not abuse or assault.
He would be giving consent to the woman he believes is on the other side.
"But as stated no where does it guarantee or state it is a woman. Gloyholes are for anyone to use. If you do not want to take the risk it may be a man don't stick it in the hole. | |||
"How about people can put what they like on their profile? How many people put athletic and they look like the last athletic thing they did was the egg and spoon race at their P3 sports day? How about the curvys that are straight up and down like stuffed sleeping bag. BBW naw pal just the BW. Most of the profiles here are misleading at best so let the men and women that don't want to put a label on their sexuality say what they like. Surely, all that matters is he wants to pump you if you want to pump him. Who else he wants to fuck is irrelevant at that point. Naw?" This man has just said what I’ve thought for years. Nail on the head. So many “hotties” on here that are tepid at best  | |||
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"Im a part time nylon wearer cd admirer bi curious lover of coffee and cake,who cares be who you wanna be " | |||
"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning!" You’re gorgeous! | |||
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"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. " I couldn’t have said it better myself! People getting mad about “straight” guys meeting trans baffles me. Let people live their own life already | |||
"Sadly being bi for a man is less socially acceptable than when a woman is bi The biphobia on here is rife Honest question and not looking for a rammy... Is it biphobia if many women simply find the thought of man with another man a turn off and therefore chose not to consider that person as a sexual partner? For example, I've spoke with guys on here who I initially found very attractive and then found out they were into cross dressing. It effectively turned off my horn as I am not into that at all. " Did that slipzer knickersbackoan? | |||
"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. " "If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight!" Honestly, what world do you live in? A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion? It matters not what semantics, word salad, or whatever nonsense you use to come to this conclusion. A straight man won't go near a biological male, because he's a male. | |||
"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. "If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight!" Honestly, what world do you live in? A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion? It matters not what semantics, word salad, or whatever nonsense you use to come to this conclusion. A straight man won't go near a biological male, because he's a male. " JFC could you be anymore transphobic? You've literally just proved the points I made. | |||
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"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. "If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight!" Honestly, what world do you live in? A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion? It matters not what semantics, word salad, or whatever nonsense you use to come to this conclusion. A straight man won't go near a biological male, because he's a male. JFC could you be anymore transphobic? You've literally just proved the points I made. " Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic. Could you be anymore in denial? Shout transphobia as much as you like, but stop the bullshit that straight men going with another male still means he's straight. Live and dress up as much as you want to be happy in your life, but stop the bullshitting. | |||
"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. "If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight!" Honestly, what world do you live in? A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion? It matters not what semantics, word salad, or whatever nonsense you use to come to this conclusion. A straight man won't go near a biological male, because he's a male. JFC could you be anymore transphobic? You've literally just proved the points I made. Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic. Could you be anymore in denial? Shout transphobia as much as you like, but stop the bullshit that straight men going with another male still means he's straight. Live and dress up as much as you want to be happy in your life, but stop the bullshitting." "A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion?" "Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic." You honestly could not make this up. Your words mate. You're either insinuating all straight males are transphobic or....no wait, that's literally what you are saying. Listen, just because you refuse to come to terms with it, it makes you feel insecure or whatever, it doesn't mean it's not true, move with the times bro or forever be upset. | |||
"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. "If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight!" Honestly, what world do you live in? A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion? It matters not what semantics, word salad, or whatever nonsense you use to come to this conclusion. A straight man won't go near a biological male, because he's a male. JFC could you be anymore transphobic? You've literally just proved the points I made. Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic. Could you be anymore in denial? Shout transphobia as much as you like, but stop the bullshit that straight men going with another male still means he's straight. Live and dress up as much as you want to be happy in your life, but stop the bullshitting. "A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion?" "Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic." You honestly could not make this up. Your words mate. You're either insinuating all straight males are transphobic or....no wait, that's literally what you are saying. Listen, just because you refuse to come to terms with it, it makes you feel insecure or whatever, it doesn't mean it's not true, move with the times bro or forever be upset. " "Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic." If you bother to read the previous reply, this was a response to the insinuation that my post of straight men not dating a transwoman was transphobic. I'll say it again, but read it slowly so that it sinks in. No straight man will go near a transwomen, because they aren't biological women. Even "moving with the times", a man who dates a transwoman is not straight. Why is it transphobic to state this undeniable biological fact? | |||
"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. "If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight!" Honestly, what world do you live in? A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion? It matters not what semantics, word salad, or whatever nonsense you use to come to this conclusion. A straight man won't go near a biological male, because he's a male. JFC could you be anymore transphobic? You've literally just proved the points I made. Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic. Could you be anymore in denial? Shout transphobia as much as you like, but stop the bullshit that straight men going with another male still means he's straight. Live and dress up as much as you want to be happy in your life, but stop the bullshitting. "A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion?" "Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic." You honestly could not make this up. Your words mate. You're either insinuating all straight males are transphobic or....no wait, that's literally what you are saying. Listen, just because you refuse to come to terms with it, it makes you feel insecure or whatever, it doesn't mean it's not true, move with the times bro or forever be upset. "Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic." If you bother to read the previous reply, this was a response to the insinuation that my post of straight men not dating a transwoman was transphobic. I'll say it again, but read it slowly so that it sinks in. No straight man will go near a transwomen, because they aren't biological women. Even "moving with the times", a man who dates a transwoman is not straight. Why is it transphobic to state this undeniable biological fact?" Sure, if we go the biological route, I agree, there will only ever be 2 sex's, male and female, that you can't deny. But to deny someone's right to transition and identify as a woman and still call them a man IS transphobic, read that part slowly, as slow as you need so that it sinks in enough so you realise what you're saying. | |||
"Some of the replies are disgusting in here. If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight! The transphobia here is sick. Looking at the age groups as well that have this mentality I'm not surprised. Sure, if it's a CD yeah it's a dude, you have a point. As someone else has stated on here, quite alot of the options on here are very outdated, it's probably really annoying that trans people have to be in the same category as cd's. Now obviously if a trans person has put themselves as a woman it's just common courtesy for them to say to whoever they are chatting to they are trans but identify as a woman. We're all adults here and we all have opinions, some that others may not agree on but to oust "bi" men IS bi phobia. "If a guy has put straight and fucks a Trans woman, he's still straight!" Honestly, what world do you live in? A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion? It matters not what semantics, word salad, or whatever nonsense you use to come to this conclusion. A straight man won't go near a biological male, because he's a male. JFC could you be anymore transphobic? You've literally just proved the points I made. Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic. Could you be anymore in denial? Shout transphobia as much as you like, but stop the bullshit that straight men going with another male still means he's straight. Live and dress up as much as you want to be happy in your life, but stop the bullshitting. "A straight man wouldn't go near a trans woman, because he is a male. Why is this even a discussion?" "Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic." You honestly could not make this up. Your words mate. You're either insinuating all straight males are transphobic or....no wait, that's literally what you are saying. Listen, just because you refuse to come to terms with it, it makes you feel insecure or whatever, it doesn't mean it's not true, move with the times bro or forever be upset. "Straight men who won't date or go near transwomen are transphobic." If you bother to read the previous reply, this was a response to the insinuation that my post of straight men not dating a transwoman was transphobic. I'll say it again, but read it slowly so that it sinks in. No straight man will go near a transwomen, because they aren't biological women. Even "moving with the times", a man who dates a transwoman is not straight. Why is it transphobic to state this undeniable biological fact? Sure, if we go the biological route, I agree, there will only ever be 2 sex's, male and female, that you can't deny. But to deny someone's right to transition and identify as a woman and still call them a man IS transphobic, read that part slowly, as slow as you need so that it sinks in enough so you realise what you're saying. " It is not transphobic to state an undeniable truth that straight men will not date a transwoman because they are in reality, men. They can identify as a woman as much as they want, and live a carefree, happy life. But, please, stop trying gaslight the rest of us into believing an untruth. I will call a transwoman her, out of courtesy, but I won't lie to myself, and I won't be lied to, when I can still see with both eyes. | |||
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"All good mate. You can't teach an old dog new tricks as they, you have your opinion and you're entitled to it, just remember tho, it's yours and yours only, you don't speak for all the men so keep your transphobic thoughts to yourself and don't "gaslight" others to your way of thinking because it threatens your sexuality." Biological facts ain't an opinion. And you're right, I don't speak for all men, but if you and the other men, who date trans, still consider themselves straight, they need to stop lying to themselves, own it. | |||
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"Because there's no option for gynosexual. If a man is attracted to feminity, he is closer to "straight" than "bi". That said, why do you care what a guy's sexual history is? Some of the tgirls on here are absolutely stunning! I agree some are stunning So would you rather a guy was historically intimate with a MTF or an FTM trans person? Which makes the person more/less "straight"? Is more straight for him to have sex with someone assigned female at birth who now looks like Hulk Hogan, Vs assigned female at birth who now looks like Megan Fox?" That example only works at the extremes every guy is picking the biological female not the man in a dress. As the saying goes theres no chicks with dicks only guys with tits | |||
"All good mate. You can't teach an old dog new tricks as they, you have your opinion and you're entitled to it, just remember tho, it's yours and yours only, you don't speak for all the men so keep your transphobic thoughts to yourself and don't "gaslight" others to your way of thinking because it threatens your sexuality. What if a female has sex with a trans or shemale? Biological facts ain't an opinion. And you're right, I don't speak for all men, but if you and the other men, who date trans, still consider themselves straight, they need to stop lying to themselves, own it." | |||
"Few issues with that but il just touch upon 3. Stigma, self doubt and shame is the first. Some guys can’t bring themselves to put the label as being bi as apparently that somehow removes some of your masculinity. Makes you less of a ‘bloke’ and is embarrassing. What if a fm couple But both like m with other men Some fems and couples will not meet bi guys, because ofcourse every bi guy has sex bareback, has aids and will want to fuck every single male within their reach…especially the male halves of couples. Fabs sexual orientation options are quite old fashioned. If you are a guy and you like trans (pre/post op) or convincing tv’s, you would actually most likely be attracted to femininity rather than females making you Gynesexual rather than straight, bi or gay. Thanks for reading, I am available for open days, roadshows, small group learning and social clubs." | |||
