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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
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When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc"
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+ |
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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago
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I can understand the need to curb illegal behaviour. That is behaviour that society, as a whole, has decided is intolerable, and will be sanctioned.
Otherwise, whatever people choose to do is for them, as adults, to choose. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If you have any concerns then report the profiles to Admin and let them deal with it.  "
I'm extremely concerned. But it's a personnel concern .I'm not sure if it would be valid concern to the site as a whole?. In a small test ive done in a few days through listing from verifications on a few profiles. Around 20 of them that engage with these people have contacted me. The trans community is quite small, even smaller than the gay community.
Im safe for penetration.. but if im honest i do sometimes engage in oral unprotected. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I can understand the need to curb illegal behaviour. That is behaviour that society, as a whole, has decided is intolerable, and will be sanctioned.
Otherwise, whatever people choose to do is for them, as adults, to choose."
Is it just for them?..or is there a duty for the platform that provides them availability to restrict them and protect to a degree? |
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Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+"
Then no, that is not against the site rules as far as I know. You can only do what you can to keep yourself safe and try not to worry about the risks others are prepared to take with their bodies.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Protected Sex - isn't Exactly - Safe Sex Either.. it could be Argued !!! "
This is true.
But ass to mouth,cum in ass, and cum in mouth with up to 30 -50 people. Could help a little if restricted...yeah? |
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+"
None of which are illegal
If you dont want to meet because what they like isnt what you like, block the profiles |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+
None of which are illegal
If you dont want to meet because what they like isnt what you like, block the profiles"
Yes i can live like its the wild west.
Thats no prob.
Blocking actually doesn't allow me to keep track of whats going on to a degree.
Yeah
But one for all and all for one it shall be.
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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago
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Is it just for them?..or is there a duty for the platform that provides them availability to restrict them and protect to a degree?"
You've yet to establish that their practices are causing sufficient harm to the community. I'd understand if unprotected sex led to some sort of airborne disease that could be inhaled by bystanders, but otherwise, the only people at risk are those that consent to it.
The duty therefore falls to you to ensure you stay protected and avoid people like that, if you so wish. |
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"Protected Sex - isn't Exactly - Safe Sex Either.. it could be Argued !!!
This is true.
But ass to mouth,cum in ass, and cum in mouth with up to 30 -50 people. Could help a little if restricted...yeah?"
You could restrict the open advertising of it but no restrictions could reasonably be placed on behaviour in private. At least with activities being advertised you have the opportunity to know who takes part and avoid. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No sex is safe sex. The only person responsible for your sexual health is you. Use condoms, get tested regularly, and minimise the risk.
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yes this is a given.
It's the nuclear unsafe sex im on about that is happening  and the platform that provides it for them to do it.
Also a lot of the partners at home that don't have a crystal ball. Sometimes im silly and just worry about silly things...sorry. |
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"No sex is safe sex. The only person responsible for your sexual health is you. Use condoms, get tested regularly, and minimise the risk.
yes this is a given.
It's the nuclear unsafe sex im on about that is happening and the platform that provides it for them to do it.
Also a lot of the partners at home that don't have a crystal ball. Sometimes im silly and just worry about silly things...sorry."
Nothing to be sorry about . It often helps to rationalise things if you read other people's opinions. |
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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+"
You must b new here...  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+
You must b new here... "
Yes im new. I came down in last shower actually.
But thankyou for the replies.
What is it they say?....oh yes.
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+
You must b new here... "
I don't see how you can push the responsibility for your safety onto Fab; it's just a contact site ; All Fab is required to do ; is to ensure it doesn't promote ( or condone ) illegal behaviour
Your safety ( or your risk) is for you to manage.
If you are worried, then don't do the " dangerous" things; or interact with the " dangerous people.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So many judgemental people on this site.
Look after your own life, instead of making judgement on how others choose to live their life"
This is true cowboy.
The thing is the liability comes into my life.
SO IM MAKING IT MY BUSINESS.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So many judgemental people on this site.
Look after your own life, instead of making judgement on how others choose to live their life
This is true cowboy.
The thing is the liability comes into my life.
SO IM MAKING IT MY BUSINESS.
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Why does it. It isn't any of your business though. It's up to other people. And if they weren't openly saying they were doing it , it would just be hidden.
Do people really think that those people that tell them that they always play safe... Always play safe.  |
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"Protected Sex - isn't Exactly - Safe Sex Either.. it could be Argued !!!
This is true.
But ass to mouth,cum in ass, and cum in mouth with up to 30 -50 people. Could help a little if restricted...yeah?
You could restrict the open advertising of it but no restrictions could reasonably be placed on behaviour in private. At least with activities being advertised you have the opportunity to know who takes part and avoid."
This is very true. If you banned the advertising it would go underground. People would still do it but not be as open, meaning you wouldn't be able to keep track of it at all. This way, although you can't ever be sure what others are doing behind closed doors, it gives you more of an idea who to avoid |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Also depends what you mean by illegal - we have been in both Russia and Dubai recently and a TV/TS walking down the street would be locked up in prison and the key kicked into the long grass for many years |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Also depends what you mean by illegal - we have been in both Russia and Dubai recently and a TV/TS walking down the street would be locked up in prison and the key kicked into the long grass for many years "
yeah a ts girl i know was raped for 2 days in custody there whilst on a escort business trip about 8 year ago. But thats nothing to do with anything. |
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"nothing illegal was presented by me for the record."
Technically you did imply it in your second post
"Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+"
Not that it matters. All that matters is that you keep yourself safe. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"just be hidden.
Do people really think that those people that tell them that they always play safe... Always play safe. "
No I don't at all.
But then again that's me. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"nothing illegal was presented by me for the record.
Technically you did imply it in your second post
Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+
Not that it matters. All that matters is that you keep yourself safe."
technically your bored and want to have a go at something. Because you have no where to go you mean? |
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"technically your bored and want to have a go at something. Because you have no where to go you mean?"
No, I'm happily poking Joe and watching Geena Davis. But whatever, you asked a question, I answered. It's what I do.
Nitey, nite |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"technically your bored and want to have a go at something. Because you have no where to go you mean?
No, I'm happily poking Joe and watching Geena Davis. But whatever, you asked a question, I answered. It's what I do.
Nitey, nite"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Protected Sex - isn't Exactly - Safe Sex Either.. it could be Argued !!!
This is true.
But ass to mouth,cum in ass, and cum in mouth with up to 30 -50 people. Could help a little if restricted...yeah?"
Block and move on.
You're not their mother |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Protected Sex - isn't Exactly - Safe Sex Either.. it could be Argued !!!
This is true.
But ass to mouth,cum in ass, and cum in mouth with up to 30 -50 people. Could help a little if restricted...yeah?
Block and move on.
You're not their mother "
OH my. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They say ignorance is bliss.x"
We totally understand where you are coming from . When we started swinging some 5 years ago we were staggered at the blatant bareback play , and worried ourselves silly over it . We thought we were bound to get HIV and stopped for a bit as the worry became too much .
Then we visited the local gum clinic and had a long chat with them , as well as getting the hep jabs and full tests .
We learned a lot from that visit , got the all clear and now go for tests every 6 weeks . We've been doing this ever since and have yet to test positive for anything . Rigorous hygiene before and after every meet , protected penetration , but bare oral and so far so good .
Let me say here that we are very active too - 3 meets or more a week .
So if you are wary , clean , careful and sensible hopefully you will enjoy the lifestyle with a brighter outlook .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They say ignorance is bliss.x"
Not really.
If they are 'advertising' they take more risks than you're prepared to you can make a decision not to risk playing with them or even anyone on their veri list.
If it worries you, move on and only play with people who claim to take as much care as you do. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"They say ignorance is bliss.x
Not really.
If they are 'advertising' they take more risks than you're prepared to you can make a decision not to risk playing with them or even anyone on their veri list.
If it worries you, move on and only play with people who claim to take as much care as you do. "
Yes its not really me I worry about too much. I guess im looking at the bigger picture(you may have only heard of this concept), You see. I get the privilege of seeing the veri lists of the trans that wear it like a badge of honor, But the straight guys that have been with them hide them on their profile because they don't want peeople to know they have been there. I add them to my hotlist...not because i think they are hot... but that you maybe left with a burning sensation if you engage with them. I get their updates ,etc. But ive watched some of these guys go onto to straight women that have no idea what these guys where upto just days before. I also know most of them will have women at home. I guess i worry about those people a bit. Im a bit silly like that. |
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"They say ignorance is bliss.x
Not really.
If they are 'advertising' they take more risks than you're prepared to you can make a decision not to risk playing with them or even anyone on their veri list.
If it worries you, move on and only play with people who claim to take as much care as you do.
Yes its not really me I worry about too much. I guess im looking at the bigger picture(you may have only heard of this concept), You see. I get the privilege of seeing the veri lists of the trans that wear it like a badge of honor, But the straight guys that have been with them hide them on their profile because they don't want peeople to know they have been there. I add them to my hotlist...not because i think they are hot... but that you maybe left with a burning sensation if you engage with them. I get their updates ,etc. But ive watched some of these guys go onto to straight women that have no idea what these guys where upto just days before. I also know most of them will have women at home. I guess i worry about those people a bit. Im a bit silly like that."
There are a lot of people who can see the bigger picture but they realise that in the end they can do nothing about it.
We watched a gang bang in a club once where no condoms were used, about 15 men and 2 women took part how can we possibly keep track of those people and their wider sex life? What can we reasonably do to prevent those people doing what they do? Insist that clubs make condoms mandatory? I would suggest that these people would only move to private unregulated premises.
It's a bit like worrying about the family of the people who take part in any dangerous sport or smokers families, ultimately futile all you can do is mitigate the risk as far as possible by advising against it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd have to argue that anyone engaging in multiple partners and not monogamous is engaging in what could be seen as dangerous behaviour.
Although we try to avoid those that do bare group things... I'm not stupid enough to think that we never meet people that only go bare.
We just protect ourselves and don't worry about others... As to be honest there are nearly as many risks from cross contamination and anyone that plays with more than one person at a club is at risk from that... But it's a risk many of us are prepared to take.
The straight guys that actually aren't and in some cases engaging in bare anal which is the highest risk bare that you can.... All hidden, so we just do what we are comfy with |
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I could worry about people's previous exploits. But I have enough stuff to worry about in my life with four kids, a wife and a dependant father.
If I go to a sauna to play, then statistically I'm in an environment where it's even more likely that people there are carrying nasties
All I can do is take precautions. Get myself regularly tested. Or give up swinging.
I take extra care when playing with my wife after playing out until I have the all clear from the clinic. I'd hate to give her something nasty but I know the risks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No sex is safe sex. The only person responsible for your sexual health is you. Use condoms, get tested regularly, and minimise the risk.
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Almost correct !!!
Single men on here have safe sex as they never get a meet |
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"I could worry about people's previous exploits. But I have enough stuff to worry about in my life with four kids, a wife and a dependant father.
If I go to a sauna to play, then statistically I'm in an environment where it's even more likely that people there are carrying nasties
All I can do is take precautions. Get myself regularly tested. Or give up swinging.
I take extra care when playing with my wife after playing out until I have the all clear from the clinic. I'd hate to give her something nasty but I know the risks. "
You make a good point, the op says they are looking at the bigger picture but hasn't taken into account that people may be behaving responsibly anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No sex is safe sex. The only person responsible for your sexual health is you. Use condoms, get tested regularly, and minimise the risk.
Almost correct !!!
Single men on here have safe sex as they never get a meet "
So no sex then |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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There are a lot of people who can see the bigger picture but they realise that in the end they can do nothing about it.
We watched a gang bang in a club once where no condoms were used, about 15 men and 2 women took part how can we possibly keep track of those people and their wider sex life? What can we reasonably do to prevent those people doing what they do? Insist that clubs make condoms mandatory? I would suggest that these people would only move to private unregulated premises.
It's a bit like worrying about the family of the people who take part in any dangerous sport or smokers families, ultimately futile all you can do is mitigate the risk as far as possible by advising against it."
Yeah.
You can't stop that sort of thing happening really.
But lets take the club example.
I've opened a sex club and have a policy of safe sex. Yes almost impossible to enforce that.But lets say i had someone in the corner with a sign saying "no condom corner" and there was a couple of slot machines there with their asses in the air saying "insert here". Now i have provided a platform that makes it easy for you and others engage in sex. What I might do is go say is "hey take that sign down and take the slot machines with you" This is not what i want to promote. I haven't stopped anyone doing unsafe sex in the club but i may have exercised some sort of damage limitation. Like you said they may go start up an unlicensed club and do it there. But that in its self has made it difficult for them. I Dont know, i guess I just have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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How would a club know who is together and who isn't.
Bare sex is risky but not a crime... And condoms are not a magic coat... You can still catch things. If I was that paranoid about catching something I'd leave the lifestyle.
I am a gg at times and have had a lot of bare oral and cum. I do this often openly and encouraged... It's a lesser risk... But how and why would clubs want to go around insisting people are safe.
At the gg events I've been to it they have self policed very well. Ie everyone checking that condoms are worn except between partners but that relys on honesty |
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"I could worry about people's previous exploits. But I have enough stuff to worry about in my life with four kids, a wife and a dependant father.
If I go to a sauna to play, then statistically I'm in an environment where it's even more likely that people there are carrying nasties
All I can do is take precautions. Get myself regularly tested. Or give up swinging.
I take extra care when playing with my wife after playing out until I have the all clear from the clinic. I'd hate to give her something nasty but I know the risks.
You make a good point, the op says they are looking at the bigger picture but hasn't taken into account that people may be behaving responsibly anyway."
Personally, my play frequency is varied. I may just go out socially for a month or two and then go out and have a gang bang.
There are times when I'm confident I'm clear, having had a couple of clear tests with no play outside of marriage.
Other times I've been with dozens of people in a few days or weeks and I start worrying I'm a walking health hazard.
I take what precautions I can and when I've been naughty, I make s point of wearing condoms at home or even abstaining for a while. |
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There are a lot of people who can see the bigger picture but they realise that in the end they can do nothing about it.
We watched a gang bang in a club once where no condoms were used, about 15 men and 2 women took part how can we possibly keep track of those people and their wider sex life? What can we reasonably do to prevent those people doing what they do? Insist that clubs make condoms mandatory? I would suggest that these people would only move to private unregulated premises.
It's a bit like worrying about the family of the people who take part in any dangerous sport or smokers families, ultimately futile all you can do is mitigate the risk as far as possible by advising against it.
Yeah.
You can't stop that sort of thing happening really.
But lets take the club example.
I've opened a sex club and have a policy of safe sex. Yes almost impossible to enforce that.But lets say i had someone in the corner with a sign saying "no condom corner" and there was a couple of slot machines there with their asses in the air saying "insert here". Now i have provided a platform that makes it easy for you and others engage in sex. What I might do is go say is "hey take that sign down and take the slot machines with you" This is not what i want to promote. I haven't stopped anyone doing unsafe sex in the club but i may have exercised some sort of damage limitation. Like you said they may go start up an unlicensed club and do it there. But that in its self has made it difficult for them. I Dont know, i guess I just have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about it. "
Yes I think you have . It's clear that this really concerns you but I don't think asking the state to regulate people's currently legal sexual practice is the way forward. |
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"I could worry about people's previous exploits. But I have enough stuff to worry about in my life with four kids, a wife and a dependant father.
If I go to a sauna to play, then statistically I'm in an environment where it's even more likely that people there are carrying nasties
All I can do is take precautions. Get myself regularly tested. Or give up swinging.
I take extra care when playing with my wife after playing out until I have the all clear from the clinic. I'd hate to give her something nasty but I know the risks.
You make a good point, the op says they are looking at the bigger picture but hasn't taken into account that people may be behaving responsibly anyway."
Personally, my play frequency is varied. I may just go out socially for a month or two and then go out and have a gang bang.
There are times when I'm confident I'm clear, having had a couple of clear tests with no play outside of marriage.
Other times I've been with dozens of people in a few days or weeks and I start worrying I'm a walking health hazard.
I take what precautions I can and when I've been naughty, I make s point of wearing condoms at home or even abstaining for a while. |
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There are a lot of people who can see the bigger picture but they realise that in the end they can do nothing about it.
We watched a gang bang in a club once where no condoms were used, about 15 men and 2 women took part how can we possibly keep track of those people and their wider sex life? What can we reasonably do to prevent those people doing what they do? Insist that clubs make condoms mandatory? I would suggest that these people would only move to private unregulated premises.
It's a bit like worrying about the family of the people who take part in any dangerous sport or smokers families, ultimately futile all you can do is mitigate the risk as far as possible by advising against it.
Yeah.
You can't stop that sort of thing happening really.
But lets take the club example.
I've opened a sex club and have a policy of safe sex. Yes almost impossible to enforce that.But lets say i had someone in the corner with a sign saying "no condom corner" and there was a couple of slot machines there with their asses in the air saying "insert here". Now i have provided a platform that makes it easy for you and others engage in sex. What I might do is go say is "hey take that sign down and take the slot machines with you" This is not what i want to promote. I haven't stopped anyone doing unsafe sex in the club but i may have exercised some sort of damage limitation. Like you said they may go start up an unlicensed club and do it there. But that in its self has made it difficult for them. I Dont know, i guess I just have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about it.
Yes I think you have . It's clear that this really concerns you but I don't think asking the state to regulate people's currently legal sexual practice is the way forward. "
The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour??? |
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There are a lot of people who can see the bigger picture but they realise that in the end they can do nothing about it.
We watched a gang bang in a club once where no condoms were used, about 15 men and 2 women took part how can we possibly keep track of those people and their wider sex life? What can we reasonably do to prevent those people doing what they do? Insist that clubs make condoms mandatory? I would suggest that these people would only move to private unregulated premises.
It's a bit like worrying about the family of the people who take part in any dangerous sport or smokers families, ultimately futile all you can do is mitigate the risk as far as possible by advising against it.
Yeah.
You can't stop that sort of thing happening really.
But lets take the club example.
I've opened a sex club and have a policy of safe sex. Yes almost impossible to enforce that.But lets say i had someone in the corner with a sign saying "no condom corner" and there was a couple of slot machines there with their asses in the air saying "insert here". Now i have provided a platform that makes it easy for you and others engage in sex. What I might do is go say is "hey take that sign down and take the slot machines with you" This is not what i want to promote. I haven't stopped anyone doing unsafe sex in the club but i may have exercised some sort of damage limitation. Like you said they may go start up an unlicensed club and do it there. But that in its self has made it difficult for them. I Dont know, i guess I just have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about it.
Yes I think you have . It's clear that this really concerns you but I don't think asking the state to regulate people's currently legal sexual practice is the way forward.
The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour???"
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The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour???
How else would you enforce the use of condoms publicly if it wasn't legislated for?"
clearly the point is lost. |
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The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour???
How else would you enforce the use of condoms publicly if it wasn't legislated for?
clearly the point is lost."
Clearly. You mentioned unlicensed clubs, I thought that implied some sort of regulation.  |
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The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour???
How else would you enforce the use of condoms publicly if it wasn't legislated for?
clearly the point is lost.
Clearly. You mentioned unlicensed clubs, I thought that implied some sort of regulation. "
The point that was being made was a damage limitation exercise to an extent. By cutting out open advertising of dangerous practice within a club or website for example. that has provided a platform for like minded people whom wish to engage in sex....thats all. |
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Going back to your original post;
No there is nothing to legislate against people's behaviour that you disapprove of.
And yes; its up to you to keep yourself safe.
If the risks seem too great simply don't play away from home. |
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"Going back to your original post;
No there is nothing to legislate against people's behaviour that you disapprove of.
And yes; its up to you to keep yourself safe.
If the risks seem too great simply don't play away from home. "
Legislate?
I give up. |
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The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour???
How else would you enforce the use of condoms publicly if it wasn't legislated for?
clearly the point is lost.
Clearly. You mentioned unlicensed clubs, I thought that implied some sort of regulation.
The point that was being made was a damage limitation exercise to an extent. By cutting out open advertising of dangerous practice within a club or website for example. that has provided a platform for like minded people whom wish to engage in sex....thats all."
Ok. You see this as a voluntary code of practice then. |
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"They say ignorance is bliss.x
Not really.
If they are 'advertising' they take more risks than you're prepared to you can make a decision not to risk playing with them or even anyone on their veri list.
If it worries you, move on and only play with people who claim to take as much care as you do.
Yes its not really me I worry about too much. I guess im looking at the bigger picture(you may have only heard of this concept), You see. I get the privilege of seeing the veri lists of the trans that wear it like a badge of honor, But the straight guys that have been with them hide them on their profile because they don't want peeople to know they have been there. I add them to my hotlist...not because i think they are hot... but that you maybe left with a burning sensation if you engage with them. I get their updates ,etc. But ive watched some of these guys go onto to straight women that have no idea what these guys where upto just days before. I also know most of them will have women at home. I guess i worry about those people a bit. Im a bit silly like that."
There are a lot of people who have thought about the bigger picture. All you can do is assume every person goes bareback and look after your own sexual health |
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The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour???
How else would you enforce the use of condoms publicly if it wasn't legislated for?
clearly the point is lost.
Clearly. You mentioned unlicensed clubs, I thought that implied some sort of regulation.
The point that was being made was a damage limitation exercise to an extent. By cutting out open advertising of dangerous practice within a club or website for example. that has provided a platform for like minded people whom wish to engage in sex....thats all.
Ok. You see this as a voluntary code of practice then. "
Well yes.
If i own a club or a website for example.
Then i make the rule. And how i may enforce those rules would be my responsibility...yeah? |
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The old saying in true the only safe sex is no sex condoms are not 100% safe. Every time you have sex with a condom you you still have a small chance you could catch something. |
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The state to regulate legal sexual behaviour???
How else would you enforce the use of condoms publicly if it wasn't legislated for?
clearly the point is lost.
Clearly. You mentioned unlicensed clubs, I thought that implied some sort of regulation.
The point that was being made was a damage limitation exercise to an extent. By cutting out open advertising of dangerous practice within a club or website for example. that has provided a platform for like minded people whom wish to engage in sex....thats all.
Ok. You see this as a voluntary code of practice then.
Well yes.
If i own a club or a website for example.
Then i make the rule. And how i may enforce those rules would be my responsibility...yeah?"
Yes I understand. |
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"Going back to your original post;
No there is nothing to legislate against people's behaviour that you disapprove of.
And yes; its up to you to keep yourself safe.
If the risks seem too great simply don't play away from home.
Legislate?
Lol. You say 'restrict' as in to make people behave in a way you approve of. Or to stop people 'promoting' sexual practice you don't approve of.
How is that not legislating?
I give up."
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"Going back to your original post;
No there is nothing to legislate against people's behaviour that you disapprove of.
And yes; its up to you to keep yourself safe.
If the risks seem too great simply don't play away from home.
Legislate?
Lol. You say 'restrict' as in to make people behave in a way you approve of. Or to stop people 'promoting' sexual practice you don't approve of.
How is that not legislating?
I give up."
Look rachel.
I can only apologise for posting in spanish on a english website.
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Personally I view any imposition of rules limiting the behaviour of consenting adults with concern.
There are a great many sexual fetishes and interests I personally find deeply unpleasant. Including some that are approved of by fab and some not.
For example I gather watersports and fisting are not allowed. I am interested in neither but do not feel fab should be imposing restrictions on photos.
In only 2 ways do I feel fab should impose restrictions - where a member is proven to be a convicted sexual criminal or where they are shown to be hiv/aids positive.
Apart from that any restrictions will likely see me consider cancelling my membership. |
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+"
Please try and NOT further stigmatise HIV+ people. If someone is on meds and has an undetectable viral load, sex is still ok! Also, its becoming more the case that people are put on meds as soon as they become positive rather than waiting until they NEED to be on medication.
The biggest problem is the amount of people who DO NOT know their HIV status. |
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"Is there any policy to restrict people whom are openly advertising, being verified and posting evidence of ruthless, dangerous sexual behaviour here?
Or is it just be safe yourself?
When you say "advertising" do you mean "encouraging said behaviour" or "seeking financial reward"?
Also, are you able to specify the 'dangerous' behaviour?
Mr ddc
promoting unsafe sex, no condom use , mass unsafe gangbangs and carrying it out. Ofcourse not illegal at all.
Well as long as people involved in them aren't HIV+
Please try and NOT further stigmatise HIV+ people. If someone is on meds and has an undetectable viral load, sex is still ok! Also, its becoming more the case that people are put on meds as soon as they become positive rather than waiting until they NEED to be on medication.
The biggest problem is the amount of people who DO NOT know their HIV status."
Im not stigmatising anyone for gods sake.
If someone was engaging in a mass unprotected gangbang with people whilst knowing they where HIV+ and not informing everyone they were. It would be illegal. if they infected people it could lead to a possible manslaughter charge. FFS |
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