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"hi noticed this morning the guy across the road was hidden behide something in his bedroom watchin me with binoculars when a was getting ready to go out, should a play up to it more or just close the curtains lol" If this post is from Kitty, play up to it and give him a treat. If it's from Marc, go over and give him a shiner! R
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"hes a pervert..nothing less" Aren't we all? R
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"that is a shocker, as long as its just wanking and spying over me thats fine and a might even order a sex toy and have it sent there by mistake haha " i think it's fine as a fantasy with someone you know, but if it reaches a stage where he believes you are performing for him...he may wish to take it further. I would exercise caution unless you know the mental capacity of this chap...he is already invading your privacy by doing this so he obviously has no care for your rights. | |||
".............. I would exercise caution unless you know the mental capacity of this chap...he is already invading your privacy by doing this so he obviously has no care for your rights." Interesting use of 'rights' in this context. As far as I can tell from the OP this guy has done nothing more than use a bit of outdated technology to get a better view of something that was already, albeit inadvertantly, on display. | |||
".............. I would exercise caution unless you know the mental capacity of this chap...he is already invading your privacy by doing this so he obviously has no care for your rights. Interesting use of 'rights' in this context. As far as I can tell from the OP this guy has done nothing more than use a bit of outdated technology to get a better view of something that was already, albeit inadvertantly, on display. " Voyeurism (1)A person commits an offence if— (a)for the purpose of obtaining sexual gratification, he observes another person doing a private act, and (b)he knows that the other person does not consent to being observed for his sexual gratification. it is an offence | |||
"I had a neighbour perv me when I was 17 and living on my own for the first time. I didnt know he was perving until I went away for xmas and received a call to say my flat had been broken into. I got home to find all my underwear had been stolen, the intruder had wanked all over my mirrors and bedding and had left pictures of me in the flat on my bed. be careful with the games you play with strangers" So in effect he killed the goose that laid the golden egg. What a tosser, I guess they cought him or you wouldn't know who it was.  R
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"I had a neighbour perv me when I was 17 and living on my own for the first time. I didnt know he was perving until I went away for xmas and received a call to say my flat had been broken into. I got home to find all my underwear had been stolen, the intruder had wanked all over my mirrors and bedding and had left pictures of me in the flat on my bed. be careful with the games you play with strangers So in effect he killed the goose that laid the golden egg. What a tosser, I guess they cought him or you wouldn't know who it was. R
XX"nope, they knew who he was due to the fact that when questioned about the break in he said he was away and had no evidence to support it...that and the fact they never gave him a time frame. for a few months things 'moved about' in my flat....it was obvious as well, a chair would be placed on my bed etc. one night a brick was put through my window and I moved away shortly after. the police though, were excellent all the way through and on that night had vans out in force within minutes of my call. I had reported every incident so they knew what was going on. | |||
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"good lord didnt thing it would get this serious lol, so when you where just spending time in your bedroom did you never think to yourseld a should close the curtains, it has never crossed my mind to do so as am in my own house and should be able to do what a wish and when, ps if marc had put the blind up right then maybe a would close it lol" Why might the fact you're in your 'own house' make a difference? | |||
"The interpretation goes on to explain "(1) For the purposes of section 67, a person is doing a private act if the person is in a place which, in the circumstances, would reasonably be expected to provide privacy, and— (a) the person’s genitals, buttocks or breasts are exposed or covered only with underwear, (b) the person is using a lavatory, or (c) the person is doing a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public. (2) In section 67, “structure” includes a tent, vehicle or vessel or other temporary or movable structure." Now, if the 'voyeur' had gone to lengths to facilitate his view of the 'sexual act' - that'd be one thing. If his view of the activity was due to no more than the object of his attentions had left the curtains open, that's another matter. I regularly see my neighbour in her underwear. She doesn't close her curtains (I don't even know if she has curtains). Does that make me guilty? Incidentally re "a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public." Does anyone know a sexual act of a kind ordinarily done in public? " it doesnt say they have to be committing a sexual act. it says if they are undressed or only covered by underwear in a place where they would otherwise expect privacy. like your neighbour. but if you are gaining no sexual gratification from it i guess its not illegal the stickler for the victim in this is proving the guilt...i assume they would have to prove that it was done for sexual gratification? | |||
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"The interpretation goes on to explain "(1) For the purposes of section 67, a person is doing a private act if the person is in a place which, in the circumstances, would reasonably be expected to provide privacy, and— (a) the person’s genitals, buttocks or breasts are exposed or covered only with underwear, (b) the person is using a lavatory, or (c) the person is doing a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public. (2) In section 67, “structure” includes a tent, vehicle or vessel or other temporary or movable structure." Now, if the 'voyeur' had gone to lengths to facilitate his view of the 'sexual act' - that'd be one thing. If his view of the activity was due to no more than the object of his attentions had left the curtains open, that's another matter. I regularly see my neighbour in her underwear. She doesn't close her curtains (I don't even know if she has curtains). Does that make me guilty? Incidentally re "a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public." Does anyone know a sexual act of a kind ordinarily done in public? it doesnt say they have to be committing a sexual act. it says if they are undressed or only covered by underwear in a place where they would otherwise expect privacy. like your neighbour. but if you are gaining no sexual gratification from it i guess its not illegal the stickler for the victim in this is proving the guilt...i assume they would have to prove that it was done for sexual gratification?" No, the 'sticker' is proving the intent. If I walk round a corner to be confronted with a couple fornicating in the sanctity of their 'own house' with the curtains and blinds open; am I guilty of voyeurism? The answer, clearly, is no. | |||
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" No, the 'sticker' is proving the intent. If I walk round a corner to be confronted with a couple fornicating in the sanctity of their 'own house' with the curtains and blinds open; am I guilty of voyeurism? The answer, clearly, is no. " well, the act says if the voyeur is proved to be doing it for his own sexual gratification....if you accidentally caught someone, its not a deliberate act! | |||
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"your right it is for whoever has the luck to see a guess, so where in glasgow are you and ill spy on you lol" Funnily enough, being watched does little for me but I'm sufficiently aware there are people who really, really enjoy being watched which is why I offer the facility I do. I'm also well aware there are couples whose need is for somewhere (anywhere?) to play and are who prepared to put up with a third party being present if that's what it takes. They seldom return. I'm comfortable about that. | |||
"The thing is....if a guy can see a naked woman at her window, he's a Peeping Tom. If a woman can see a naked guy at his window, he's indecently exposing himself. Double standards or what?
XXXX"that's not true, there is a huge chasm between indecently exposing and voyeurism. one wants to be watched, the other involves a victim being spied upon in both instances there is a victim if the act is not invited | |||
"your right it is for whoever has the luck to see a guess, so where in glasgow are you and ill spy on you lol Funnily enough, being watched does little for me but I'm sufficiently aware there are people who really, really enjoy being watched which is why I offer the facility I do. I'm also well aware there are couples whose need is for somewhere (anywhere?) to play and are who prepared to put up with a third party being present if that's what it takes. They seldom return. I'm comfortable about that." ...and if you do it invited, then i approve...i think my first post said that as a fantasy it is fine....with someone you trust, it is fine...it's consensual..anything consensual is fine! | |||
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"your right it is for whoever has the luck to see a guess, so where in glasgow are you and ill spy on you lol Funnily enough, being watched does little for me but I'm sufficiently aware there are people who really, really enjoy being watched which is why I offer the facility I do. I'm also well aware there are couples whose need is for somewhere (anywhere?) to play and are who prepared to put up with a third party being present if that's what it takes. They seldom return. I'm comfortable about that. ...and if you do it invited, then i approve...i think my first post said that as a fantasy it is fine....with someone you trust, it is fine...it's consensual..anything consensual is fine!" I don't invite anyone. I've made the facility I offer known here and elsewhere. People respond and we discuss their needs and boundaries. Some bottle out after the initial chat. Some get here and think better of it (it's possible I'm an ugly so and so). Some fail to trap having after many phone calls and much, supposed, enthusiasm. Everything is consensual. | |||
"yep you offer a service and these peeps no what there in for when there at yours lol, hope your not southside lol" Dear Dog no. I avoid the Sou' Side like the plague. | |||
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"sorry, am sure your the perfect host, and maybe you will get lucky one day at my window or have folk join you lol x" Hell will freeze over before I'm found at anyone's window. | |||
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"pk tav hope you find what your looking for" pk? | |||
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"that was meant as ok" Ah. | |||
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"The interpretation goes on to explain "(1) For the purposes of section 67, a person is doing a private act if the person is in a place which, in the circumstances, would reasonably be expected to provide privacy, and— (a) the person’s genitals, buttocks or breasts are exposed or covered only with underwear, (b) the person is using a lavatory, or (c) the person is doing a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public. (2) In section 67, “structure” includes a tent, vehicle or vessel or other temporary or movable structure." Now, if the 'voyeur' had gone to lengths to facilitate his view of the 'sexual act' - that'd be one thing. If his view of the activity was due to no more than the object of his attentions had left the curtains open, that's another matter. I regularly see my neighbour in her underwear. She doesn't close her curtains (I don't even know if she has curtains). Does that make me guilty? Incidentally re "a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public." Does anyone know a sexual act of a kind ordinarily done in public? it doesnt say they have to be committing a sexual act. it says if they are undressed or only covered by underwear in a place where they would otherwise expect privacy. like your neighbour. but if you are gaining no sexual gratification from it i guess its not illegal the stickler for the victim in this is proving the guilt...i assume they would have to prove that it was done for sexual gratification? No, the 'sticker' is proving the intent. If I walk round a corner to be confronted with a couple fornicating in the sanctity of their 'own house' with the curtains and blinds open; am I guilty of voyeurism? The answer, clearly, is no. " If you conceal yourself, as the OP says her neighbour had done, whilst looking through a window, I imagine that would show intent to commit an act of voyeurism, ie. you know that the person you are watching would alter their behaviour, or be offended, if they knew you were getting an eyeful. The use of binoculars makes a defence harder too. If the OP's neighbour stands in his window, bold as brass, and stares at her getting ready, so long as he's not cracking one off, he could reasonably expect that it would be difficult to charge him with any offence, the burden of proof of his intent would be too great. To the OP, you should just hold up a little sign asking him if he wants to go on the S.O.R., that ought to frighten him into watching something else. The thing is with neighbours watching you, he isn't going to know when you are OK with it, and when you really aren't in any mood to give him a thrill. It's a dangerous game to tease any man, especially the kind of bloke who is stupid enough to watch people across the road from where he lives, people he may bump into every day of the week, IMHO. | |||
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"the intruder had wanked all over my mirrors and bedding " Christ ! he must have had a full load on board | |||
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Silly old sod......I'd have loved to see the coppers faces when she explained what she had to do to be able to see him. R
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