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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley

This to do with national rail Tom?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

No..your freedoms

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"No..your freedoms"

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

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By *all me FlikWoman 2 weeks ago

Galaxy Far Far Away


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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Is that due to a positive test result?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app.. "

But if they want to watch you...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley

Gotta love the language of the street, the feds..

Like al Capone just got resurrected..

Bizzies, rozzers, the old bill..

Feds pmsl..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

Read the press... NHS furious..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you... "

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"Read the press... NHS furious.. "

You mean the media, the same media you often denigrate as being part of the system..

that media?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app.."

As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

These fuckers are watching us... Stay alert .. stay safe ..

But don't be fooled...

I am off for nap...

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By *lotMan 2 weeks ago

London


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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Facebook. Youtube. Bank sites/apps. Instant messenger apps like kik. Mobile games. Registering to site/apps, saying "yes" to terms and conditions in order to use "free" features of said sites/apps. Contactless payments, using your card to whitdraw cash from your account. All of the above are an effective way to trace you. Oh, even fabswingers is for sure collecting data on you. Just saying.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ... "

If I am positive I will isolate..

I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

Spot on.. do not trust those buggers

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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Facebook. Youtube. Bank sites/apps. Instant messenger apps like kik. Mobile games. Registering to site/apps, saying "yes" to terms and conditions in order to use "free" features of said sites/apps. Contactless payments, using your card to whitdraw cash from your account. All of the above are an effective way to trace you. Oh, even fabswingers is for sure collecting data on you. Just saying."

It's almost like some people have no idea of how the things work..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

The app does not alert anybody.. it's a dead duck..

Ignorance is bliss ...

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By *EX DOLL N BAD INTENTIONSCouple 2 weeks ago

THE DOLL HOUSE... york


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ...

If I am positive I will isolate..

I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things.."

But people will decide to isolate or not and all our opinions will not matter either way

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment...

Gather your bubble...

All with the app..

One of you put into the app that you have a temperature..

It will tell you to self isolate...

None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ...

If I am positive I will isolate..

I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things..

But people will decide to isolate or not and all our opinions will not matter either way "

It's the ones who are not isolating who need reining in, one fuckwit in Bolton who went to the pub after testing positive infected dozens and caused a spike of hundreds..

The sort of moron who gives the virus to someone and that someone then infects a loved one who may end up on a ventilator..

Fuck them, they are as bad as a person who doesn't tell a partner they have hiv..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

Apparently .. nobody has ever been sent any sort of message through this app...

It's bollocks

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ...

If I am positive I will isolate..

I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things..

But people will decide to isolate or not and all our opinions will not matter either way

It's the ones who are not isolating who need reining in, one fuckwit in Bolton who went to the pub after testing positive infected dozens and caused a spike of hundreds..

The sort of moron who gives the virus to someone and that someone then infects a loved one who may end up on a ventilator..

Fuck them, they are as bad as a person who doesn't tell a partner they have hiv..

"

Fuck.. sorry to hear that.. hope you both ok..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment...

Gather your bubble...

All with the app..

One of you put into the app that you have a temperature..

It will tell you to self isolate...

None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks..."

So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester


"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment...

Gather your bubble...

All with the app..

One of you put into the app that you have a temperature..

It will tell you to self isolate...

None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks...

So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story?"

Snooze time here

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

Near Chorley


"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment...

Gather your bubble...

All with the app..

One of you put into the app that you have a temperature..

It will tell you to self isolate...

None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks...

So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story?

Snooze time here "

Turn your phone camera off..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester


"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment...

Gather your bubble...

All with the app..

One of you put into the app that you have a temperature..

It will tell you to self isolate...

None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks...

So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story?

Snooze time here

Turn your phone camera off.. "

It's an awareness piece.. don't trust those who will abuse their powers...

Zzzzzz

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By *ookyandlickyCouple 2 weeks ago

Larne


"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment...

Gather your bubble...

All with the app..

One of you put into the app that you have a temperature..

It will tell you to self isolate...

None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks..."

It's not supposed to in that case ...duh ..

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By *all me FlikWoman 2 weeks ago

Galaxy Far Far Away


"Apparently .. nobody has ever been sent any sort of message through this app...

It's bollocks"

Yes they have...there's threads on here saying they have.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 1 week ago

Central

Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

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By *harli GraceTV/TS 1 week ago

manchester


"Read the press... NHS furious.. "

We aren’t furious, we haven’t got time to be furious because we are knee deep in keeping people alive due to the behaviour of idiots who believe they are suffering some kind of communist take over.

X

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By *ovebjsMan 1 week ago

Bristol

Err! We don’t have feds in this country

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By *wisted999Man 1 week ago

North Bucks

A simple subscribers check would reveal all they wanted to know anyway.

The data is shared in order to check people have been told to self isolate so they can be dealt with accordingly.

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By *rufinWoman 1 week ago

wirral


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this "

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

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By *alandNitaCouple 1 week ago

Scunthorpe


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate.

Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate.

Cal

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate.

Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate.

Cal"

They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app.

Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep.

But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force...

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment...

Gather your bubble...

All with the app..

One of you put into the app that you have a temperature..

It will tell you to self isolate...

None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks...

So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story?

Snooze time here

Turn your phone camera off..

It's an awareness piece.. don't trust those who will abuse their powers...

Zzzzzz"

Thankfully, I'm past the stage where this sort of tinhat, Trumpian conspiracy theory would annoy me.

Unless you have no social media, no mobile phone, no computer, no bank account, no NHS number, no NI number, no car insurance, and mortgage or other financial agreements, the 'Feds' already know everything about you. Apart from possibly if you went to Wetherspoons last night. Oh no they'd get that from the CCTV and your phone!

We live in a world full of technology used to record and track us and our preferences, at least the NHS app has a useful purpose!

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By *uenevereWoman 1 week ago

Scunthorpe


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate.

Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate.

Cal

They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app.

Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep.

But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force...

"

The police or overworked and understaffed.

I doubt that they have the will or manpower to "mission creep".

So far as fines go. Anyone selfish enough to risk spreading a potentially fatal virus, deserves a big fine that actually impacts on them.

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By *alandNitaCouple 1 week ago

Scunthorpe

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By *uenevereWoman 1 week ago

Scunthorpe

And there's no suggestion of fines for not installing the app. Unsure where you got that from.

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By *alandNitaCouple 1 week ago

Scunthorpe


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate.

Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate.

Cal

They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app.

Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep.

But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force...

"

I'm not sure that uninstalling an app can really be classed as "fighting hard", and I'm not sure the freedom of "not isolating when potentially a public health risk" is worth fighting for.

Cal

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By *wisted999Man 1 week ago

North Bucks

OP. A surprising amount of data can be taken via many different ways. If you were that concerned you wouldn’t be on here or using the internet.

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate.

Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate.

Cal

They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app.

Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep.

But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force...

I'm not sure that uninstalling an app can really be classed as "fighting hard", and I'm not sure the freedom of "not isolating when potentially a public health risk" is worth fighting for.

Cal"

I'm a curious sort, so I'd love to hear what 'hard fought' entailed and also what freedoms exactly have been lost?

We're being asked to wear masks, stay at home and reduce contact with people. It's not exactly a concentration campus it? I thinks it's actually highly insulting to anyone who does have restricted freedom, or has fought hard for their rights.

Sometimes a step back and a little perspective does wonders for us all

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By *tephanjMan 1 week ago

Kettering

If you followed the rules like self isolate then the police would not need any info from the app. Is that so hard

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By *unliverpoolMan 1 week ago

Liverpool, end of m62

And they told us it was all going to be anonymous and confidential remember ?

Lies and more lies.

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton

I'd better add for clarity, it's up to you if you have or use the app. There's an accepted social responsibility to using it as it is designed to help the current situation. How much it does can be questioned, but it's meant to.

Some of us think it's a reasonable ask, more so if we've got friends and family in the Police, or NHS.

I guess my point is, have an opinion. If you're basing it on something spurious, on a forum, people will chip in.

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"And they told us it was all going to be anonymous and confidential remember ?

Lies and more lies.

"

They? When and where was that said or written? The Ts&C's explicitly state that the information can be shared with Civil services for the purpose of public safety, and lists NHS and Police?

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By *allySlinkyWoman 1 week ago

Leeds


" It's not exactly a concentration campus "

Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!!

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By *wisted999Man 1 week ago

North Bucks

I’m more worried what Google and the others do with my information and browsing habits as they keep spamming the shit out of me with Ads.

I only have to seemingly thing about something these days before getting bombarded with ads about what I’m thinking about

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate.

Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate.

Cal

They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app.

Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep.

But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force...

"

What sort of freedom is it to deliberately disregard the fact that a person who is positive can go out instead of isolating as told to..

The freedom to infect others..

Complete horse poop..

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By *unliverpoolMan 1 week ago

Liverpool, end of m62

I am reminded of the old saying that starts with

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I was not a Jew . . . . ."

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman 1 week ago

The place where fairies live


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app.."

Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"I am reminded of the old saying that starts with

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I was not a Jew . . . . .""

If you are comparing that with the people who have tested positive being held to account so it deters some from going out knowing they may potentially put some one else in an ICU ward you need to come back to the actual reality..

No one is putting women and children in cattle cars, what sort of thought process leads a rational person to think in such a way ?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details. "

Now that is very very concerning for me...

Big Brother and all that

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details.

Now that is very very concerning for me...

Big Brother and all that"

It's the modern world Tom, perhaps living off grid has its benefits..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate..

Especially a flawed one..

Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops...

How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on...

These are scary times..

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


" It's not exactly a concentration campus

Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!!"

Chances that they university guards consulted the Police, GOV or PHE before doing that? More likely some enthusiastic but misguided people trying to help.

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"I am reminded of the old saying that starts with

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I was not a Jew . . . . .""

I'm genuinely staggered that you think the two situations are comparable.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate..

Especially a flawed one..

Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops...

How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on...

These are scary times..

"

Ditto, it's not used in shops certainly not the bigger ones..

Pubs yes, signing in is equally effective..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate..

Especially a flawed one..

Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops...

How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on...

These are scary times..

Ditto, it's not used in shops certainly not the bigger ones..

Pubs yes, signing in is equally effective.."

Well twice yesterday. Once in a specialist Nike shop and once in a Adidas shop.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate..

Especially a flawed one..

Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops...

How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on...

These are scary times..

Ditto, it's not used in shops certainly not the bigger ones..

Pubs yes, signing in is equally effective..

Well twice yesterday. Once in a specialist Nike shop and once in a Adidas shop. "

We went to a fabric outlet and good sanitation etc but no signing in..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


" It's not exactly a concentration campus

Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!!

Chances that they university guards consulted the Police, GOV or PHE before doing that? More likely some enthusiastic but misguided people trying to help. "

I would wonder how a security guard thinks that they have the power to restrict a student of their liberty to leave their accomodation.

These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ...

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate..

Especially a flawed one..

Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops...

How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on...

These are scary times..

"

We have to sign into hotels, gyms etc when we arrive. It's not a big stretch for that to extend to other public places while this is happening.

We've been to VA and Xtasia and scanned into both, don't see a problem with it.

If this was just the UK, or EU with sets of restrictions like this, I'd see the concern. When, ever, have all the governments of the world agreed on anything? If it's some sort of conspiracy, then every government on earth is in on it. And what do they gain that they didn't have already? Nothing. If we follow the conspiracy theory through logically, surely 'they' already have all out info?

Food for thought

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


" It's not exactly a concentration campus

Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!!

Chances that they university guards consulted the Police, GOV or PHE before doing that? More likely some enthusiastic but misguided people trying to help.

I would wonder how a security guard thinks that they have the power to restrict a student of their liberty to leave their accomodation.

These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ...

"

So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

I don't know if it's true but there is a cut off point for returning fees. If they keep them there until chriy then close then there will be no refund of fees..

Another scandal.. profit before people.. cafe them up, take their money then send them home with a present for granny this Christmas

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton

How could you ever meet anyone from this site? What if they're just harvesting information and are a fully spies for the deep state? What if the secret police are laying a trap for you by pretending to be swingers but actually they're going to imprison you in a torture camp!!!

Or you could be crackers? One of the two will be closer than the other

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"How could you ever meet anyone from this site? What if they're just harvesting information and are a fully spies for the deep state? What if the secret police are laying a trap for you by pretending to be swingers but actually they're going to imprison you in a torture camp!!!

Or you could be crackers? One of the two will be closer than the other "

I stopped meeting about three years ago for that very reason...

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining

It's actually nothing to do with the app. But there you go, you have found 'your' reason to delete it.

If you had tested positive and someone like your neighbour or your cat reports you for breaking isolation to the Police. The Police can apply to access the data that Track and Track have, to see if you are under isolation rules.

You would be better deleting your Google account because that follows you everywhere. That and 30 other apps you have on your phone right now. Like every time your phone accesses a phone mast or updates your email or records every single word you say in an SMS ad-infinitum.

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By *rufinWoman 1 week ago

wirral


"

These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ...

So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens!"

Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings

Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash.

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By *osalindWoman 1 week ago

Midwich


"I’m more worried what Google and the others do with my information and browsing habits as they keep spamming the shit out of me with Ads.

I only have to seemingly thing about something these days before getting bombarded with ads about what I’m thinking about "

Facebook adverts know me better than I know myself. I weep at some of the things they want to sell me and say yes, yes I really would love that, just how did you know

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"

These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ...

So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens!

Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings

Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash."

A relative is stuck in one of those cages at a uni and has to were ppe to have a shit and piss in the communal bathrooms and has to wear a mask to share the communal kitchen. All his lessons are online. He keeps saying he could have done this in his bedroom...

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By *tephanjMan 1 week ago

Kettering

Really don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about an app follow the rules and nothing will happen. You share more information on other places on the internet than the app. Just follow the rules

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"

These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ...

So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens!

Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings

Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash.

A relative is stuck in one of those cages at a uni and has to were ppe to have a shit and piss in the communal bathrooms and has to wear a mask to share the communal kitchen. All his lessons are online. He keeps saying he could have done this in his bedroom..."

What PPE exactly is he having to wear? Other than a mask and gloves presumably......

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"

These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ...

So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens!

Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings

Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash.

A relative is stuck in one of those cages at a uni and has to were ppe to have a shit and piss in the communal bathrooms and has to wear a mask to share the communal kitchen. All his lessons are online. He keeps saying he could have done this in his bedroom..."

And I'd agree that learning could all be done remotely, and reducing the risk caused by shared campuses etc.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 1 week ago

Leeds


" people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. "

But students havent got "all amenities and luxuries". No face to face teaching, no gymns, sports clubs, open space for a walk, societies to make friends, bars, cafeterias, library etc

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


" people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard.

But students havent got "all amenities and luxuries". No face to face teaching, no gymns, sports clubs, open space for a walk, societies to make friends, bars, cafeterias, library etc"

Interesting......

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/higher-education-reopening-buildings-and-campuses/higher-education-reopening-buildings-and-campuses

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By *arahspiceCouple 1 week ago

Bristol & Sweden


"These fuckers are watching us... Stay alert .. stay safe ..

But don't be fooled...

I am off for nap... "

You are better off following the guidelines.

Stay safe but help others stay safe too and dont be selfish

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By *acktopervMan 1 week ago

Stourport-On-Severn

I had to have a little giggle to myself when i read this thread. It's typical of all the misinformation that has and is being spread about mainly over the internet about Covid.

The police being asked to enforce quarantine rules has absolutely nothing to do with the NHS app. It is for people that have been rung by Track and Trace and told that they have had a positive result from an actual test and then asked to self isolate.

Once again, a case of "internet warriors" getting on their high horse and going off half cocked.

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"I had to have a little giggle to myself when i read this thread. It's typical of all the misinformation that has and is being spread about mainly over the internet about Covid.

The police being asked to enforce quarantine rules has absolutely nothing to do with the NHS app. It is for people that have been rung by Track and Trace and told that they have had a positive result from an actual test and then asked to self isolate.

Once again, a case of "internet warriors" getting on their high horse and going off half cocked."

Yup. Said exactly the same above - but the CON-spiracy folks just don't even hear it. Must be the dust bunnies rolling around inside their heads

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By *ocket.QueenWoman 1 week ago

Northampton Somewhere

Jesus, some people must be constantly looking over their shoulders!!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

What about the track and track when swinging clubs reopen..

Won't bother some but may compromise some of the judges, MPs, celebrities amongst us..

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich

Paranoia seems as rampant as covid 19 these days.

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you... "

They certainly don't need an app to do it. If I'm concerned it'll only be because I've done something wrong.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

Professor Yardley from SAGE raised concerns on the Andrew Marr show today..

Police snooping and fines will deter people from being tested..

It's the law of unintended consequences .. the Cobra effect...

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"I had to have a little giggle to myself when i read this thread. It's typical of all the misinformation that has and is being spread about mainly over the internet about Covid.

The police being asked to enforce quarantine rules has absolutely nothing to do with the NHS app. It is for people that have been rung by Track and Trace and told that they have had a positive result from an actual test and then asked to self isolate.

Once again, a case of "internet warriors" getting on their high horse and going off half cocked."

Exactly.

Misinformation and Paranoia are actually the biggest threat to our civil liberties.

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By *iobhan123Couple 1 week ago

Deal


"Read the press... NHS furious..

We aren’t furious, we haven’t got time to be furious because we are knee deep in keeping people alive due to the behaviour of idiots who believe they are suffering some kind of communist take over.

X"

Perfectly said

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same"

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"Read the press... NHS furious..

We aren’t furious, we haven’t got time to be furious because we are knee deep in keeping people alive due to the behaviour of idiots who believe they are suffering some kind of communist take over.

X

Perfectly said "

This.

Not many NHS workers have time for this nonsense.

Ignore the press, it's about making money not about truth and true information.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility."

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

"

That was about a month old...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

I wonder how many MPs have the NHS app on their phones.. not all I will guess...

Nothing wrong with the NHS but they are being asked to do an impossible job

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

That was about a month old..."

So it never happened then...?

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

"

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license."

Funny that isn't it.. ?.

One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs...

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license."

Yup.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same"

Strangers bar is over rated..just saying...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license.

Funny that isn't it.. ?.

One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs..."

Private clubs also have different licensing and hotels..

Educate yourself before seeing bogey men behind every thing perhaps..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

And wasn't there an MPs comment that this round is on Public Health England but I am not paying...

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By *ab jamesMan 1 week ago

ribble valley

You've not met for 3 years?, convinced someone might be trying to trick you? Always looking over your shoulder for government spies following you? Getting rid of your app, because it's tracking you? "They" are trying to destroy society, but you're going to to fight for our freedoms?

Have you considered talking to someone professional? This sound like it's affecting you negatively. Hope you find some help.

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

Strangers bar is over rated..just saying..."

Had a drink in there when I was 12 - draught - yuk spit.

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining

it was a draught brown soda pop that the forum robot deletes lol

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By *ostafunMan 1 week ago

near ipswich


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

"

Keep up tom this was a no news story a month ago.

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By *anderer26Man 1 week ago

lancs currently,sometimes Devon, wherever I lay my cat


"Professor Yardley from SAGE raised concerns on the Andrew Marr show today..

Police snooping and fines will deter people from being tested..

It's the law of unintended consequences .. the Cobra effect..."

Yes even the threat of police snooping,knocking at your door etc, and up to £10,000 fine, will now unfortunately stop some being tested in the first place.

am not saying it's logical just saying that ,as the op says will be the consequence...some people are not keen on the police..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"You've not met for 3 years?, convinced someone might be trying to trick you? Always looking over your shoulder for government spies following you? Getting rid of your app, because it's tracking you? "They" are trying to destroy society, but you're going to to fight for our freedoms?

Have you considered talking to someone professional? This sound like it's affecting you negatively. Hope you find some help. "

All true but perhaps it's affecting me positively depending on one's perspective...

Just because I am paranoid does not mean that they are not after me...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 1 week ago

Near Chorley


"it was a draught brown soda pop that the forum robot deletes lol "

Dandelion and burdock?

Spent a couple of hours in there after doing a couple of tours with colleagues, subsidised ale in the centre of town..got messy..

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license.

Funny that isn't it.. ?.

One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs..."

No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it.

What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange.

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By *andDPCouple 1 week ago

Lancashire

they've been watching you ever since the internet was thought of and phones with microphone built in made it worse.. just after to accept it

otherwise paranoia will kill you

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"it was a draught brown soda pop that the forum robot deletes lol

Dandelion and burdock?

Spent a couple of hours in there after doing a couple of tours with colleagues, subsidised ale in the centre of town..got messy.."

lol - the one that people stick up there nose. Same word lol.

Mine was a school tour. I thought it smelled really musty and old. And two people were actually arguing quite loudly. Till they were told to leave by PoWestminster Bobbies. Great example to all the young people there.

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By *espectconsentandfilthMan 1 week ago

Coatbridge

Let all of those fuckwits congregate to their hearts content... In a fenced in field.

Just keep them supplied with food and drink.

And coffins.

We'll tidy up when the coast is clear again.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license.

Funny that isn't it.. ?.

One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs...

No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it.

What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange."

Liberties and freedoms my friend..

Liberties and freedoms ..

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By *ethnmelvCouple 1 week ago

Cardiff


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license.

Funny that isn't it.. ?.

One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs...

No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it.

What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange.

Liberties and freedoms my friend..

Liberties and freedoms .."

...just smile & wave...

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By *anderer26Man 1 week ago

lancs currently,sometimes Devon, wherever I lay my cat

Well I heard. .now don't take this as gospel. but it's not the NHS who grasses you up to the police...it's Sydney University..

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same

No they don't. Bar closes at 10.

Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility.

So why the breach reported in all the papers ?

It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license.

Funny that isn't it.. ?.

One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs...

No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it.

What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange.

Liberties and freedoms my friend..

Liberties and freedoms .."

Lol.

Ironically you hand them over in more ways than Han you think with the paranoia. I'd check sources thoroughly before reacting to quickly. And if those sources prove to be questionable, don't follow those sources anymore.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 1 week ago

County Durham


"Well I heard. .now don't take this as gospel. but it's not the NHS who grasses you up to the police...it's Sydney University.."

But if you put the warning into the app you are protected from the feds apparently. Again don't take it as gospel.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 1 week ago

Central


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing. "

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

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By *ing-louisMan 1 week ago

cardiff


"Apparently .. nobody has ever been sent any sort of message through this app...

It's bollocks"

I know people who have been told to isolate because of the app...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"Apparently .. nobody has ever been sent any sort of message through this app...

It's bollocks

I know people who have been told to isolate because of the app..."

People are advised to isolate - track and trace don't get that info' through the app unless you go get a test and are positive.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops. "

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

"

Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally. "

We are all flawed I would imagine..

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By *oggoneMan 1 week ago

Derry


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally.

We are all flawed I would imagine.. "

Yet some are compelled to promote and amplify misinformation whilst others refrain and may even try to correct the misinformation.

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

"

Now that's an interesting point. There is only one truth, it's part of the description. Whether any of us know it is another thing entirely. All we can do is decide on our threshold for evidence when we state something as 'fact' or 'truth'. The pandemic has given rise to a lot of opinions dressed as facts, with little to no substantive evidence. I think most reasonable people are happy to have different opinions than others. What grates, is when the other opinion is clearly utter non sense that can't be supported. Amazingly, when challenged, a lot of the sources of these truths reframe the conversation to other topics rather than debate the facts of the subject at hand.

People are fascinating creatures......

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally.

We are all flawed I would imagine.. "

Clearly not one to take on board good advice and critically asses something without just spitting out something just to pat the ego, so not worth continuing with this nonsense.

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By *agicfingers75Man 1 week ago

Near the woods


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

Now that's an interesting point. There is only one truth, it's part of the description. Whether any of us know it is another thing entirely. All we can do is decide on our threshold for evidence when we state something as 'fact' or 'truth'. The pandemic has given rise to a lot of opinions dressed as facts, with little to no substantive evidence. I think most reasonable people are happy to have different opinions than others. What grates, is when the other opinion is clearly utter non sense that can't be supported. Amazingly, when challenged, a lot of the sources of these truths reframe the conversation to other topics rather than debate the facts of the subject at hand.

People are fascinating creatures...... "

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By *ocket Ronnie HardonMan 1 week ago

Barnet


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

Deleted"

Well its the possessive test information that could be available to them not the NHS data so don't panic it might be a good idea not to take facebook stuff as gospel.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

Now that's an interesting point. There is only one truth, it's part of the description. Whether any of us know it is another thing entirely. All we can do is decide on our threshold for evidence when we state something as 'fact' or 'truth'. The pandemic has given rise to a lot of opinions dressed as facts, with little to no substantive evidence. I think most reasonable people are happy to have different opinions than others. What grates, is when the other opinion is clearly utter non sense that can't be supported. Amazingly, when challenged, a lot of the sources of these truths reframe the conversation to other topics rather than debate the facts of the subject at hand.

People are fascinating creatures...... "

We are.. Vivre La Difference..

In life.. there is somebody for everyone.. well almost

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data.

Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others.

This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this

There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.

It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.

An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..

Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?

Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally.

We are all flawed I would imagine..

Clearly not one to take on board good advice and critically asses something without just spitting out something just to pat the ego, so not worth continuing with this nonsense."

Well there is a thread for everyone.. perhaps you could try Tits out Tuesday or Stilleto Saturday.. ?

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By *wiprRightForMeMan 1 week ago

Manchester

so much for patient confidentially. It has emerged that people who have been told to self-isolate through NHS Test and Trace could have their contact details shared with police on a "case by case" basis.

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"so much for patient confidentially. It has emerged that people who have been told to self-isolate through NHS Test and Trace could have their contact details shared with police on a "case by case" basis."

You'd better start at the beginning of the thread and work your way down until you find the proper truth.

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman 1 week ago

The place where fairies live


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app..

Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details.

Now that is very very concerning for me...

Big Brother and all that"

But surely you knew that really?

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By *anderer26Man 1 week ago

lancs currently,sometimes Devon, wherever I lay my cat


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

Deleted

Well its the possessive test information that could be available to them not the NHS data so don't panic it might be a good idea not to take facebook stuff as gospel. "

So now we're been tested for demonic possession too! When will this madness end..I can't cope..my head's spinning...

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By *allySlinkyWoman 1 week ago

Leeds


"

So now we're been tested for demonic possession too! "

Maybe as well as demonic possession they are testing for other types of possession too - hoarding and kleptomaia

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

There are some people not taking this serious...

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"There are some people not taking this serious... "

Deleting your app because you half read a story is taking it serious then?

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"There are some people not taking this serious... "

So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.

If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"There are some people not taking this serious...

So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.

If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument."

You sound like this is a court of law

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 1 week ago

County Durham


"There are some people not taking this serious...

So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.

If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument.

You sound like this is a court of law "

Not really they and many others have pointed out where you have gone wrong and given you a chance to put some facts to back up your arguement.

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"There are some people not taking this serious...

So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.

If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument.

You sound like this is a court of law "

And you sound like you can't substantiate a point you've made. Either/or

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"There are some people not taking this serious...

So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.

If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument.

You sound like this is a court of law

And you sound like you can't substantiate a point you've made. Either/or "

I am presenting my opinion..

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"

I am presenting my opinion.. "

OPINION

noun

noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions

1. a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

______________________________

FACT

noun

noun: fact; plural noun: facts

1. a thing that is known or proved to be true.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a"

Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a

Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too. "

Let me make it easy for you..

Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing..

Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing..

My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy...

There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT

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By *ab jamesMan 1 week ago

ribble valley

Has anyone ever heard the phrase "interlectualy beating someone up"

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By *oggoneMan 1 week ago

Derry


"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a"

You certainly are, however you cannot conflate your opinions with facts, and you certainly can't have your own facts.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

Let me put it another way...

Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR..

Two papers report the result..

USA today..

The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally

The Soviet Weekly

The Russians came second and the USA next to last..

So what is the truth.. ?

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a

Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too.

Let me make it easy for you..

Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing..

Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing..

My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy...

There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT

"

Well as long as we're all on the same page now!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Has anyone ever heard the phrase "interlectualy beating someone up" "

No but I have heard the phrase 'intellectually beating someone up' hope that helps

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By *moothman2000Man 1 week ago

Leicestershire


"No..your freedoms"

You mean the freedom to not self isolate when you have covid?

My 'freedom' is mine to do what I want with and I an happily using the NHS app and have no issue with it as I'm neither paranoid or misinformed.

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By *atEvolutionCouple 1 week ago

Some People Find The Cloud in Every Silver Lining


"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a

Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too.

Let me make it easy for you..

Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing..

Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing..

My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy...

There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT

"

No. Actually go back to the OP (your OP) you said . . .

The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

Deleted

Many people here said . . . the app does not report on you. Track and Trace ONLY know about YOU when YOU present yourself and are found positive . . .the POLICE (if they get a report that you have broken isolation) can check with track and trace to see if you are supposed to be isolating.

And then those people said you have deleted the app without understanding how it works properly.

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By *oggoneMan 1 week ago

Derry


"Let me put it another way...

Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR..

Two papers report the result..

USA today..

The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally

The Soviet Weekly

The Russians came second and the USA next to last..

So what is the truth.. ?

"

Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity.

I hope you don't have problems discerning reality.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

Well my App is gone never to return .. Fact..

I will self isolate if I get symptoms Fact..

The App is shite.. opinion

Hope that helps those who judge

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Let me put it another way...

Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR..

Two papers report the result..

USA today..

The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally

The Soviet Weekly

The Russians came second and the USA next to last..

So what is the truth.. ?

Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity.

I hope you don't have problems discerning reality."

No but I have a problem deciphering nonsense...

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton


"Let me put it another way...

Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR..

Two papers report the result..

USA today..

The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally

The Soviet Weekly

The Russians came second and the USA next to last..

So what is the truth.. ?

Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity.

I hope you don't have problems discerning reality.

No but I have a problem deciphering nonsense..."

But no problem reading and repeating it as fact........

It's been a blast!

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By *oggoneMan 1 week ago

Derry


"Let me put it another way...

Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR..

Two papers report the result..

USA today..

The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally

The Soviet Weekly

The Russians came second and the USA next to last..

So what is the truth.. ?

Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity.

I hope you don't have problems discerning reality.

No but I have a problem deciphering nonsense..."

Have another go, you got this.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester

Enjoy.. off to watch a recording about castles..

Night Night my deciples..

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple 1 week ago

Northampton

To try and round this off, we're all guilty of being passionate about what we believe, even if we're wrong. It's good to see people fighting for their opinions in a public forum, debate and opinions can often improve everyone's understanding, which can't be a bad thing.

I hope everyone is having a good day and an even better evening

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"To try and round this off, we're all guilty of being passionate about what we believe, even if we're wrong. It's good to see people fighting for their opinions in a public forum, debate and opinions can often improve everyone's understanding, which can't be a bad thing.

I hope everyone is having a good day and an even better evening "

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By *ab jamesMan 1 week ago

ribble valley

Will some lady message this guy and "take one for the team". He deffo needs shaggin!

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By *ellWoman 1 week ago

Loughborough


"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate..

Especially a flawed one..

Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops...

How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on...

These are scary times..

"

I'm fine with that

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By *ellWoman 1 week ago

Loughborough


"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate..

Especially a flawed one..

Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops...

How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on...

These are scary times..

We have to sign into hotels, gyms etc when we arrive. It's not a big stretch for that to extend to other public places while this is happening.

We've been to VA and Xtasia and scanned into both, don't see a problem with it.

If this was just the UK, or EU with sets of restrictions like this, I'd see the concern. When, ever, have all the governments of the world agreed on anything? If it's some sort of conspiracy, then every government on earth is in on it. And what do they gain that they didn't have already? Nothing. If we follow the conspiracy theory through logically, surely 'they' already have all out info?

Food for thought "

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By *aucySambaCouple 1 week ago

weybridge


"These fuckers are watching us... Stay alert .. stay safe ..

But don't be fooled...

I am off for nap... "

Dont forget to nap with one eye open...

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By *aucySambaCouple 1 week ago

weybridge

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By *aucySambaCouple 1 week ago

weybridge


"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a

Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too.

Let me make it easy for you..

Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing..

Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing..

My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy...

There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT

"

Shock horror! Who'd have guessed???

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By *nshockable40Man 1 week ago

Stoke


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

Deleted

I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate.

Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate.

Cal

They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app.

Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep.

But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force...

I'm not sure that uninstalling an app can really be classed as "fighting hard", and I'm not sure the freedom of "not isolating when potentially a public health risk" is worth fighting for.

Cal

I'm a curious sort, so I'd love to hear what 'hard fought' entailed and also what freedoms exactly have been lost?

We're being asked to wear masks, stay at home and reduce contact with people. It's not exactly a concentration campus it? I thinks it's actually highly insulting to anyone who does have restricted freedom, or has fought hard for their rights.

Sometimes a step back and a little perspective does wonders for us all "

Love this.... Dead heads wake up!!! It's going to be a long winter.

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By * Plus ECouple 1 week ago

The South

I don't want to worry you Tom, but we've all been watching you ever since you started posting on the forums.

Shhhhhhhhhh.

*taps nose.

E

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By *rs mischiefWoman 1 week ago

manchester


"No..your freedoms

Mine?

They're ok ta..

Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..

But if they want to watch you...

Psst Tom, that phone thingie..

That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..

You don't need to have someone given access to an app.."

This

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By *oubleswing2019Couple 1 week ago

Colchester

Fedex are being given our data ?

I think most folks would sleep soundly at that, seeing as they they can barely manage to deliver parcels, let alone safeguard data

Joking aside, we live in a digital world, and leave a digital footprint everywhere we go across many disparate systems. Finding someone is ridiculously easy if the authorities need to. Coupled with machine learning and AI, it's a doddle.

(I'm not a conspiracy nut. Science geek with some surveillance background. Sounds glamorous but in reality it's quite dull. Left the field 20 years ago.)

I would advise if you are seeking to lay low, don't advertise it to all and sundry. That's a red-flag for a start.

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By *ensualguy70Man 1 week ago

Glengarnock

get rid of mobile phones, dont have smart tvs, and drive old classic cars and never have a smart meter either

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By *ommenhimCouple 1 week ago

wigan


"Has anyone ever heard the phrase "interlectualy beating someone up"

No but I have heard the phrase 'intellectually beating someone up' hope that helps "

Disciples

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"Has anyone ever heard the phrase "interlectualy beating someone up"

No but I have heard the phrase 'intellectually beating someone up' hope that helps

Disciples "

It's a pun on discipline

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By *rmanslutMan 1 week ago

Birmingham

Tom, they could be watching this very thread and know you started it! The only way to be safe might be to delete your profile ASAP.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 1 week ago

Colchester


"get rid of mobile phones, dont have smart tvs, and drive old classic cars and never have a smart meter either"

I will never ever agree to have a smart meter installed...

Evil things

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman 1 week ago

The place where fairies live


"get rid of mobile phones, dont have smart tvs, and drive old classic cars and never have a smart meter either"

And wear tin foil on your head.

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By *hickennchipsWoman 1 week ago

in the fruit and veg aisle


"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app

Fuck that...

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Never downloaded. Win win

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