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By *andT2020 OP Couple
over a year ago
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We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
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I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet. |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet. "
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies. |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies."
It could be down to human behaviour rather than any thing in the mutation. We still don't know for certain why the spanish mutation flared up, human behaviours seem to have got the blame. My feeling is that is a combination of virus and human behaviour. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies."
A german proffessor reckons the new strain is in Germany but they do not have the technical ability of the British to spot it.We in Britain are smarter than the rest of Europe it is a myth the new virus started here |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.A german proffessor reckons the new strain is in Germany but they do not have the technical ability of the British to spot it.We in Britain are smarter than the rest of Europe it is a myth the new virus started here"
Hahahahahahahah oh hahahahahahaha oh I needed that laugh..... |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.
It could be down to human behaviour rather than any thing in the mutation. We still don't know for certain why the spanish mutation flared up, human behaviours seem to have got the blame. My feeling is that is a combination of virus and human behaviour."
Possibly also down to schools and the fact that the governments ‘covid safe’ measures aren’t that at all but of course that won’t ever be heard so it’s just ‘more transmissible than we thought’ |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.
It could be down to human behaviour rather than any thing in the mutation. We still don't know for certain why the spanish mutation flared up, human behaviours seem to have got the blame. My feeling is that is a combination of virus and human behaviour.
Possibly also down to schools and the fact that the governments ‘covid safe’ measures aren’t that at all but of course that won’t ever be heard so it’s just ‘more transmissible than we thought’ "
It is something they are now investigating with this new strain
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.A german proffessor reckons the new strain is in Germany but they do not have the technical ability of the British to spot it.We in Britain are smarter than the rest of Europe it is a myth the new virus started here"
Comedy gold Emma..
Thanks for the laugh..
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.A german proffessor reckons the new strain is in Germany but they do not have the technical ability of the British to spot it.We in Britain are smarter than the rest of Europe it is a myth the new virus started here"
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter.."
If it is as bad as they are making out...you would think its inevitable we are going into a while lockdown.
So surely they should be making announcements now one when it will be to give us all some clarity. |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter.."
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
If it is as bad as they are making out...you would think its inevitable we are going into a while lockdown.
So surely they should be making announcements now one when it will be to give us all some clarity. "
One would think so yes.. |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month "
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too.. |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too.."
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included. |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included. "
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
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Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies."
It seems to be common knowledge the virus mutates regularly and many countries have admitted to having this new mutation which the UK has, so why the border closing for the freight at Dover? .... Maybe it's the drivers that are spreading it which is why it is getting around so fast |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move"
You are aware it’s not just London that have the new strain, I assume ? |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
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It could be, numbers are rising in most areas of the country. |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move
You are aware it’s not just London that have the new strain, I assume ? "
Fair point but London is about 12% of the UK population  |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.
It seems to be common knowledge the virus mutates regularly and many countries have admitted to having this new mutation which the UK has, so why the border closing for the freight at Dover? .... Maybe it's the drivers that are spreading it which is why it is getting around so fast
Is this anything to do with that clown bumbling in about a driver last night?"
The "driver" part was, i thought, a joke, I'm wrong again  slap my wrist |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.
It seems to be common knowledge the virus mutates regularly and many countries have admitted to having this new mutation which the UK has, so why the border closing for the freight at Dover? .... Maybe it's the drivers that are spreading it which is why it is getting around so fast
Is this anything to do with that clown bumbling in about a driver last night?
The "driver" part was, i thought, a joke, I'm wrong again slap my wrist "
I do apologise |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move
You are aware it’s not just London that have the new strain, I assume ?
Fair point but London is about 12% of the UK population "
I know but we didn’t all leave and it’s still not known and won’t be known, how many of those leaving the city on Saturday actually didn’t live here anyway. |
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
I don't think anyone knows the answers yet. We think it is more virrulent because of the number of people that are catching this mutation as far as i am aware no one knows why yet.
Quite. Apparently the Germans say they can not see why the U.K. claim it is more transmissible as they haven't found that from their studies.
It seems to be common knowledge the virus mutates regularly and many countries have admitted to having this new mutation which the UK has, so why the border closing for the freight at Dover? .... Maybe it's the drivers that are spreading it which is why it is getting around so fast
Is this anything to do with that clown bumbling in about a driver last night?
The "driver" part was, i thought, a joke, I'm wrong again slap my wrist
I do apologise "
I understand no holiday makers and no unnecessary travellers, but why stop the freight? |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move"
The rise in London and parts of the south east was in the lockdown we all had so once that lifted and they were tier two it's entirely likely that it was being spread countrywide..
The locking down was weeks too late with hindsight.. |
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move
The rise in London and parts of the south east was in the lockdown we all had so once that lifted and they were tier two it's entirely likely that it was being spread countrywide..
The locking down was weeks too late with hindsight.."
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move
The rise in London and parts of the south east was in the lockdown we all had so once that lifted and they were tier two it's entirely likely that it was being spread countrywide..
The locking down was weeks too late with hindsight..
Ah Now i know why hindsight has 2020 vision "
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"It does beg the question given the cases are rising in the tier 2 areas next to tier 4 when the decision will be taken to put all in the latter..
I think it will happen between 28th & 30th of this month
Could be spot on, stops the new year melee too..
That’s my thinking, a halt to NYE socialising. Whether it will be the whole country is the unknown, but I’m thinking anything that borders T4 or whose numbers have had a swift incline this last week will be included.
It would make sense yes, if they're saying it's all over they have to at least try and stay on top of it but it could already be too late..
Allowing so many people to leave London before locking it down probably wasn't the smartest move
The rise in London and parts of the south east was in the lockdown we all had so once that lifted and they were tier two it's entirely likely that it was being spread countrywide..
The locking down was weeks too late with hindsight..
Ah Now i know why hindsight has 2020 vision "
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During the first lockdown the store i work in limited customers to 100 at a time, then when 100 was reached we worked one out one in; if their was a queue then there was a queue (to quote the merecat ) simples !!
Now it is a free for all, and when you ask management it is 'so people don't have to queue in the cold and wet'
I don't work in a food retailer and most of the stuff we sell is far from essential so this new strain if it is more communicable is going to spread if all companies are adopting this attitude.
Staff have to work in this environment and so no doubt the spread is inevitable ! |
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We don't know too much about this variant, it just may be super-effective at invading cells, potentially needing a lower level of virus to gain an effective infection.
The virus is monitored globally for the specific variants and mutations, with Germany particularly well placed to identify the activity and virus progression there, including via outstanding university hospitals and labs.
I think there was probably a little greater emphasis on how terrible this new variant was, to help to justify the emergency measures that the hare-brained 1 needed to take after parliament had shut up shop for the holidays. |
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"During the first lockdown the store i work in limited customers to 100 at a time, then when 100 was reached we worked one out one in; if their was a queue then there was a queue (to quote the merecat ) simples !!
Now it is a free for all, and when you ask management it is 'so people don't have to queue in the cold and wet'
I don't work in a food retailer and most of the stuff we sell is far from essential so this new strain if it is more communicable is going to spread if all companies are adopting this attitude.
Staff have to work in this environment and so no doubt the spread is inevitable !"
Numbers and queuing system down here. |
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"We don't know too much about this variant, it just may be super-effective at invading cells, potentially needing a lower level of virus to gain an effective infection.
The virus is monitored globally for the specific variants and mutations, with Germany particularly well placed to identify the activity and virus progression there, including via outstanding university hospitals and labs.
I think there was probably a little greater emphasis on how terrible this new variant was, to help to justify the emergency measures that the hare-brained 1 needed to take after parliament had shut up shop for the holidays."
Entirely possible but if he's over egged it he will be toast within the tory party and heartlands..
Maybe it's his way out.. |
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over a year ago
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So it spreads faster, easier to catch, children catch it quicker. Hang on sounds like the flu we have every winter, people being fooled again got to laugh. |
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By *ye-spyMan
over a year ago
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Every piece of scientific data should be made freely available so scientists can learn from each other.
They could put all the data on to a block chain and get artificial intelligence to scan the data to find inconsistencies and patterns. |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
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At the risk of being pedantic virulence is not the same as velocity
Velocity is the speed of something in a given direction usually measured in SI units of meters per second
Transmissible speed in a given population is something different....
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By *andT2020 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"We’re told the new variant is spreading faster but what does that really mean, Ie In what context should we understand velocity?
If it required 15mins exposure before is it now 10mins?
If the incubation period was 5 days is it now 2?
If we were moderately safe at 2m separation is it now 3m?
At the risk of being pedantic virulence is not the same as velocity
Velocity is the speed of something in a given direction usually measured in SI units of meters per second
Transmissible speed in a given population is something different....
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As a definition that’s correct
But doesn’t it show that now, and perhaps always, the government have chosen slightly misleading terminology to convey their message?
I watched the briefings from the devolved administrations yesterday and the message from all was certainly velocity....it’s heading our way, it’s coming to get you etc etc.... |
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