A 3rd booster jab will seem to happen for all over 50s and any over 16s that require a flu shot (those that could be classed under the vulnerable umbrella)
So what do we know (or believe) is the future of covid shots?
Will there be annual Covid shots as per the flu or would it be dependent on variants?
And if yes to the above, will only the "vulnerable" get these boosters or will it be a mass campaign again?
Curious as to how people think this will go over the next few years |
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I think its very highly likely that there will be booster shots of the covid jab this Autumn.
Iv no idea if we will need it yearly, that depends on research and data.
At the moment we don't know how long the vaccine gives us protection for and the only reason we need yearly flu vaccines is because it is different strains every year. |
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"I think it will be those who they invite for a flu jab will get a COVID jab annually as well "
Everyone is invited to get a flu jab every year. Its only those over 50 and with an underlying condition that gets it free. |
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"I think it will be those who they invite for a flu jab will get a COVID jab annually as well
Everyone is invited to get a flu jab every year. Its only those over 50 and with an underlying condition that gets it free. "
Are they?? I never had an invite until I became and unpaid carer |
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Plans are still being developed, as greater research evidence becomes available.
Whilst initial drives to vaccinate those who were most typically severely ill or died in the short term, it's become clearer that longer term problems affect many more, like long covid, amongst younger people.
We're now getting a fuller understanding of how long immunity lasts after infection or vaccinations. This drives the plans for boosters, in countries that didn't decide to eliminate the virus like the UK. Anyone may benefit from the booster, just as with getting a flu jab. Plans are not fixed yet, if both vaccines will be delivered together.
Starting from a place of ignorance, the whole world has been learning. It's normal and lets plans adapt as we continue. Individuals can do the same, not needing to keep their straightjacket tied.
I think it will be a good thing to plan for all shots, for all of us. Priority is obviously those most vulnerable and who had the earliest vaccines, as immunity may be waning, and winter poses a major threat |
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"I think it will be those who they invite for a flu jab will get a COVID jab annually as well
Everyone is invited to get a flu jab every year. Its only those over 50 and with an underlying condition that gets it free.
Are they?? I never had an invite until I became and unpaid carer"
Normally the flu vaccine is offered to anyone over 65 and anyone with underlying health conditions. The age was dropped to 50 last year to try to help stop flu impacting on Covid.
Not sure yet if it is staying at 50 this year or going back to 65.
Anyone else can pay for a vaccine at a pharmacy if they want one but they are not automatically invited for it. |
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"I think it will be those who they invite for a flu jab will get a COVID jab annually as well
Everyone is invited to get a flu jab every year. Its only those over 50 and with an underlying condition that gets it free.
Are they?? I never had an invite until I became and unpaid carer
Normally the flu vaccine is offered to anyone over 65 and anyone with underlying health conditions. The age was dropped to 50 last year to try to help stop flu impacting on Covid.
Not sure yet if it is staying at 50 this year or going back to 65.
Anyone else can pay for a vaccine at a pharmacy if they want one but they are not automatically invited for it. "
The 50 to 64 year olds are to be invited to the community pharmacies ie tesco, asda, waitrose etc etc to free up the gp's etc for the over 65 and vulnerable, the PSNC have advised that they will be reimbursable so that hints at free jabs for the over 50's and chargeable for everyone else, boots and Lloyd's have closed their flu 2021 interest list as they have had too much interest so will be Interesting on the final numbers govt has ordered
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Apparently flu has been cured as nobody died of flu last year. Just a little research into how these mRNA injections work will show that regular boosters will be needed annually.
This is new technology and private corporate companies we are dealing with and its not your typical vax so please investigate and research yourselves to prove me wrong, most of you won't and that's OK.
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"Apparently flu has been cured as nobody died of flu last year. Just a little research into how these mRNA injections work will show that regular boosters will be needed annually.
This is new technology and private corporate companies we are dealing with and its not your typical vax so please investigate and research yourselves to prove me wrong, most of you won't and that's OK.
Information is key people"
No flu has not been cured. There have been deaths that have been attributed to flu this year.
What it is key is not to allow yourself to get misinformed.
If your sources said that flu has been cured then you are seriously misinformed. |
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Mat onehandonbillscock appeared on GMTV or what ever it’s called in April this year, with the boast that boosters will be rolled out in the autumn of 2021, he also stated they had been working hard on booster jabs for over a year, so for those not good at maths, they have been working on booster jabs since at least April 2020, long before any jabs were given temporary authorisation, what did he know that they aren’t telling us ? |
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Lolosauraus rex, booster jabs on top of the 2 is all you need mindset does make you wonder who is getting paid for every jab taken? As surely if the protein it created was effective it would remain so, we have a yearly flu jab as there are so many flu variants some years they get it wrong and people die, if you stand for nothing you will fall for anything, this same government told us asbestos was safe and used it in everything knowing it was highly carcinogenic for years before the public started to ask is there a safer alternative |
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"Apparently flu has been cured as nobody died of flu last year. Just a little research into how these mRNA injections work will show that regular boosters will be needed annually.
This is new technology and private corporate companies we are dealing with and its not your typical vax so please investigate and research yourselves to prove me wrong, most of you won't and that's OK.
Information is key people
No flu has not been cured. There have been deaths that have been attributed to flu this year.
What it is key is not to allow yourself to get misinformed.
If your sources said that flu has been cured then you are seriously misinformed."
Do your research ------------
https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/no-flu-cases-detected-in-england-this-year-to-date/ |
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"If you believe all this crap you seriously need to give your heads a wobble "
I know, there's been so much nonsense, some of it conspiracy theories based, much of it fuelled by dangerous lies that have been flooded onto social medsia, antivirus and antivax sites etc, some funded by enemy states to destabilise the UK and other countries. So much BS channelled vainly trying to undermine people's health, livelihoods and more. Everyone deserves better . At least we have the strong foundations of scientific evidence and effective vaccines that we're using intelligently and progressing. |
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"I've just been called to get my flu jab. Not heard anything about a booster. Little nervous about having it after the covid vax. Maybe just being silly"
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I think the booster programme is still being finalised. |
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"I've just been called to get my flu jab. Not heard anything about a booster. Little nervous about having it after the covid vax. Maybe just being silly..
I think the booster programme is still being finalised. "
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"Apparently flu has been cured as nobody died of flu last year. Just a little research into how these mRNA injections work will show that regular boosters will be needed annually.
This is new technology and private corporate companies we are dealing with and its not your typical vax so please investigate and research yourselves to prove me wrong, most of you won't and that's OK.
Information is key people
No flu has not been cured. There have been deaths that have been attributed to flu this year.
What it is key is not to allow yourself to get misinformed.
If your sources said that flu has been cured then you are seriously misinformed.
Do your research ------------
https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/no-flu-cases-detected-in-england-this-year-to-date/"
Date of article: 23 February 2021
So, six or so weeks into a strict national lockdown, a disease that is less infectious than SARS-CoV-2, that is primarily droplet transmission, was reduced to nought. I wonder why? Could it be due to no-one going out, no socialising, social distancing and mask wearing? Hmmmmm......
Flu has definitely been detected this calendar year. Data can be extracted from reports here: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2021-to-2022-season |
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It will become as natural as a flu jab.
Unless, and this is a big ask.
Covid somehow, over the years becomes less prevalent and becomes one of those diseases that is eradicated.
Wouldn't bet on it.
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Have there been any trials investigating effects of a booster dose or doses? The original trials tested a two dose regimen and that is what was approved... what is known or needs to be shown before a booster is rolled out? Like will there need to be further approval given by MHRA? Just wondering how this all works. If im prescribed a medication at a certain dose which is the max allowed and there is a max dose approved, i dont think my gp can randomly choose to increase it just because its not working so well at the approved dose. So i would expect something has to happen before a booster can be approved. Is that the case?
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"It will become as natural as a flu jab.
Unless, and this is a big ask.
Covid somehow, over the years becomes less prevalent and becomes one of those diseases that is eradicated.
Wouldn't bet on it.
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Didn't Sars cov1 become less prevalent?
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
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"It will become as natural as a flu jab.
Unless, and this is a big ask.
Covid somehow, over the years becomes less prevalent and becomes one of those diseases that is eradicated.
Wouldn't bet on it.
Didn't Sars cov1 become less prevalent?
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Yeah, the fact it killed 10% of those who became infected probably helped tho |
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"The US has already started to roll out the booster jab. Think we will be getting ours along with the annual Flu Vac starting September.
Have you tried nudist beach in Barmouth "
Do they have a vaccination clinic on the nudist beach? Struggling to see any other possible connection... |
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"The US has already started to roll out the booster jab. Think we will be getting ours along with the annual Flu Vac starting September.
Have you tried nudist beach in Barmouth
Do they have a vaccination clinic on the nudist beach? Struggling to see any other possible connection..."
Not the prick they were expecting to see there |
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"I think it will be those who they invite for a flu jab will get a COVID jab annually as well
Everyone is invited to get a flu jab every year. Its only those over 50 and with an underlying condition that gets it free.
Are they?? I never had an invite until I became and unpaid carer"
That is because you get it for free now, anybody could have a flu vaccination and always have been able to, those that don't qualify to get it free have to go to the pharmacy and pay. |
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"A 3rd booster jab will seem to happen for all over 50s and any over 16s that require a flu shot (those that could be classed under the vulnerable umbrella)
So what do we know (or believe) is the future of covid shots?
Will there be annual Covid shots as per the flu or would it be dependent on variants?
And if yes to the above, will only the "vulnerable" get these boosters or will it be a mass campaign again?
Curious as to how people think this will go over the next few years"
It wont make any difference.... lockdown will happen from sept right through to at least march 2022 |
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"Whenever I hear someone attacking 'conspiracy theories' I automatically assume they are poorly informed"
Yes, a lot of the conspiracy theories are poorly informed, you're right. The global alarm over 5G mobile and vaccine chips shouts this loudly. 5G and other towers - 1 of them a hospital emergency radio tower, were burned and damaged by poorly informed people  |
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"Whenever I hear someone attacking 'conspiracy theories' I automatically assume they are poorly informed
Yes, a lot of the conspiracy theories are poorly informed, you're right. The global alarm over 5G mobile and vaccine chips shouts this loudly. 5G and other towers - 1 of them a hospital emergency radio tower, were burned and damaged by poorly informed people "
Just so happens that on the 20 pound note is a 5g antenna.
Just so happens that on the new 50 pound note that is an image of chip on the hologram. As well as the quote: "this is only a taste of what's to come and a shadow of what will be"
Can you blame them for investigating further? |
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over a year ago
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"A 3rd booster jab will seem to happen for all over 50s and any over 16s that require a flu shot (those that could be classed under the vulnerable umbrella)
So what do we know (or believe) is the future of covid shots?
Will there be annual Covid shots as per the flu or would it be dependent on variants?
And if yes to the above, will only the "vulnerable" get these boosters or will it be a mass campaign again?
Curious as to how people think this will go over the next few years
It wont make any difference.... lockdown will happen from sept right through to at least march 2022"
Absolutely no chance. It's laughable. |
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"Whenever I hear someone attacking 'conspiracy theories' I automatically assume they are poorly informed
Yes, a lot of the conspiracy theories are poorly informed, you're right. The global alarm over 5G mobile and vaccine chips shouts this loudly. 5G and other towers - 1 of them a hospital emergency radio tower, were burned and damaged by poorly informed people
Just so happens that on the 20 pound note is a 5g antenna.
Just so happens that on the new 50 pound note that is an image of chip on the hologram. As well as the quote: "this is only a taste of what's to come and a shadow of what will be"
Can you blame them for investigating further?"
Do you mean the Margate Lighthouse on the £20 note? The quote is directly from Alan Turing, who is on the £50 note "This is only a foretaste of what is to come and only the shadow of what is going to be" is a quote from Alan Turing, given in an interview to The Times newspaper on 11 June 1949.
The image you think is a chip is just a circuit board in gold colour.
Jeez - you must have far too much time on your hands. |
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"Whenever I hear someone attacking 'conspiracy theories' I automatically assume they are poorly informed
Yes, a lot of the conspiracy theories are poorly informed, you're right. The global alarm over 5G mobile and vaccine chips shouts this loudly. 5G and other towers - 1 of them a hospital emergency radio tower, were burned and damaged by poorly informed people
Just so happens that on the 20 pound note is a 5g antenna.
Just so happens that on the new 50 pound note that is an image of chip on the hologram. As well as the quote: "this is only a taste of what's to come and a shadow of what will be"
Can you blame them for investigating further?
Do you mean the Margate Lighthouse on the £20 note? The quote is directly from Alan Turing, who is on the £50 note "This is only a foretaste of what is to come and only the shadow of what is going to be" is a quote from Alan Turing, given in an interview to The Times newspaper on 11 June 1949.
The image you think is a chip is just a circuit board in gold colour.
Jeez - you must have far too much time on your hands."
Look at what's happening in australia.
Feel absolutely free to ignore these 'coincidences'. |
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"A 3rd booster jab will seem to happen for all over 50s and any over 16s that require a flu shot (those that could be classed under the vulnerable umbrella)
So what do we know (or believe) is the future of covid shots?
Will there be annual Covid shots as per the flu or would it be dependent on variants?
And if yes to the above, will only the "vulnerable" get these boosters or will it be a mass campaign again?
Curious as to how people think this will go over the next few years
It wont make any difference.... lockdown will happen from sept right through to at least march 2022
Absolutely no chance. It's laughable."
No chance? Why don't you check out the government tender website and see for yourself |
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"Whenever I hear someone attacking 'conspiracy theories' I automatically assume they are poorly informed
Yes, a lot of the conspiracy theories are poorly informed, you're right. The global alarm over 5G mobile and vaccine chips shouts this loudly. 5G and other towers - 1 of them a hospital emergency radio tower, were burned and damaged by poorly informed people
Just so happens that on the 20 pound note is a 5g antenna.
Just so happens that on the new 50 pound note that is an image of chip on the hologram. As well as the quote: "this is only a taste of what's to come and a shadow of what will be"
Can you blame them for investigating further?
Do you mean the Margate Lighthouse on the £20 note? The quote is directly from Alan Turing, who is on the £50 note "This is only a foretaste of what is to come and only the shadow of what is going to be" is a quote from Alan Turing, given in an interview to The Times newspaper on 11 June 1949.
The image you think is a chip is just a circuit board in gold colour.
Jeez - you must have far too much time on your hands.
Look at what's happening in australia.
Feel absolutely free to ignore these 'coincidences'."
What's happening in Australia?! They've put Margate lighthouse and Alan Turing on their money too?? |
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"A 3rd booster jab will seem to happen for all over 50s and any over 16s that require a flu shot (those that could be classed under the vulnerable umbrella)
So what do we know (or believe) is the future of covid shots?
Will there be annual Covid shots as per the flu or would it be dependent on variants?
And if yes to the above, will only the "vulnerable" get these boosters or will it be a mass campaign again?
Curious as to how people think this will go over the next few years
It wont make any difference.... lockdown will happen from sept right through to at least march 2022
Absolutely no chance. It's laughable.
No chance? Why don't you check out the government tender website and see for yourself"
Feel free to post a link.
I stand by my opinion - There is no chance of a six month lockdown starting next month. |
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I've been vaccinated dozens of times over the years as my work involves travel to some not so nice places.
I've only ever had the same very early side effects.
Always a sore arm and some cold like symptoms.
On the very odd occasion an upset stomach and very mild nausea.
Will I keep taking them if offered.
Absolutely, I seen locals catch the disease I have received vaccine and it's not pretty.
Each to his or her own but I wouldn't be without them.
The fact I wouldn't get to keep my job is another factor too. |
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"Whenever I hear someone attacking 'conspiracy theories' I automatically assume they are poorly informed
Yes, a lot of the conspiracy theories are poorly informed, you're right. The global alarm over 5G mobile and vaccine chips shouts this loudly. 5G and other towers - 1 of them a hospital emergency radio tower, were burned and damaged by poorly informed people
Just so happens that on the 20 pound note is a 5g antenna.
Just so happens that on the new 50 pound note that is an image of chip on the hologram. As well as the quote: "this is only a taste of what's to come and a shadow of what will be"
Can you blame them for investigating further?"
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So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess. |
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess. "
The alternative? we all die before we are 45 like we did 150 years ago ? Medicines and vaccines have drastically increased the average life expectancy , |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess. "
well ive been having the flu jab for a few years now and guess what ive never caught it since let alone die from it. |
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess. "
Well if you have any pension funds you probably are one of them.. |
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess. "
The vaccines have been 1 of the 2 tools that we've had that have helped thousands survive, the economy stabilise, millions of jobs and homes stay secure, the NHS resume fuller services and a hell of a lot more. The Oxford jab is supplied at cost. It's reasonable to continue to fuel our wellbeing and recovery, with investment, as winter is potentially the worst period. The vaccines remain optional. It's wise to get the flu jab this year, as we've not been subject to it and many other pathogens for some time. If you have the misfortune to get simultaneous infections of both flu and Covid, you have a significantly higher probability of death, than if you had just 1 of them. Flu vaccination would reduce the potential for your death, if you don't get a Covid vaccine.
Research is still determining the duration of the vaccines' induced immunity, as well as the need for boosters, as this virus and the vaccines are so recent. Time will give us greater depths of understanding and the progression of the virus will help to guide our strategy and any potential need for future treatment - it may not be a general requirement, in the not too distant future |
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over a year ago
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Booster shots of different combinations of vaccines could potentially be as frequent as every six months.
Vitamin D supplements are vital; 270 tabs at Boots for £4.60 using 3 for 2 voucher system.
Most people have inadequate levels of vitamin D in their blood in the northern latitudes especially in winter months. |
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"Booster shots of different combinations of vaccines could potentially be as frequent as every six months.
Vitamin D supplements are vital; 270 tabs at Boots for £4.60 using 3 for 2 voucher system.
Most people have inadequate levels of vitamin D in their blood in the northern latitudes especially in winter months."
Vitamin is readily available in a healthy diet, there's no need for pills |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"Booster shots of different combinations of vaccines could potentially be as frequent as every six months.
Vitamin D supplements are vital; 270 tabs at Boots for £4.60 using 3 for 2 voucher system.
Most people have inadequate levels of vitamin D in their blood in the northern latitudes especially in winter months.
Vitamin is readily available in a healthy diet, there's no need for pills"
You just hit the nail on the head though. Frightening how many people have no idea what constitutes a healthy diet or at very least kid themselves by “offsetting”. |
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"If you believe all this crap you seriously need to give your heads a wobble
I know, there's been so much nonsense, some of it conspiracy theories based, much of it fuelled by dangerous lies that have been flooded onto social medsia, antivirus and antivax sites etc, some funded by enemy states to destabilise the UK and other countries. So much BS channelled vainly trying to undermine people's health, livelihoods and more. Everyone deserves better . At least we have the strong foundations of scientific evidence and effective vaccines that we're using intelligently and progressing. "
And most of the BS coming from our own government and its medical counterparts.
Lies spread quicker than the virus itself. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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Of course the way to undermine the validity of any conspiracy theory that is sailing too close to the truth is to dilute credibility by putting increasing numbers of silly and more outlandish conspiracy theories out there so they all get wrapped up and lost in the noise. |
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By *ohnj21Man
over a year ago
Leeds |
"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess.
The vaccines have been 1 of the 2 tools that we've had that have helped thousands survive, the economy stabilise, millions of jobs and homes stay secure, the NHS resume fuller services and a hell of a lot more. The Oxford jab is supplied at cost. It's reasonable to continue to fuel our wellbeing and recovery, with investment, as winter is potentially the worst period. The vaccines remain optional. It's wise to get the flu jab this year, as we've not been subject to it and many other pathogens for some time. If you have the misfortune to get simultaneous infections of both flu and Covid, you have a significantly higher probability of death, than if you had just 1 of them. Flu vaccination would reduce the potential for your death, if you don't get a Covid vaccine.
Research is still determining the duration of the vaccines' induced immunity, as well as the need for boosters, as this virus and the vaccines are so recent. Time will give us greater depths of understanding and the progression of the virus will help to guide our strategy and any potential need for future treatment - it may not be a general requirement, in the not too distant future "
Time if people s vaccine wane after 6 months we need boost now.
Delaying will cause deaths that need not happen.
We delayed 1st 2nd lockdown and additional deaths.
Do we not learn lessons.
Hesatation costs lives. |
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess.
The alternative? we all die before we are 45 like we did 150 years ago ? Medicines and vaccines have drastically increased the average life expectancy ,"
I agree.
The number of people who rattle each day due to the amount of tablets they take is incredible.
It's something most people don't discuss, to others it's a matter of pride how many they pop.
Either way, without them lots of people wouldn't pass that mid 50's threshold.
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess.
The alternative? we all die before we are 45 like we did 150 years ago ? Medicines and vaccines have drastically increased the average life expectancy ,"
That is a fallacy. It's not all down to medicines and vaccines... other factors have contributed such as sanitation, education, nutrition.
If it were as simple as this, we wouldn't see vast differences in life expectancy in our very own country where those living in the most deprived areas have a lower life expectancy even as much as 30 years! |
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess.
The alternative? we all die before we are 45 like we did 150 years ago ? Medicines and vaccines have drastically increased the average life expectancy ,
That is a fallacy. It's not all down to medicines and vaccines... other factors have contributed such as sanitation, education, nutrition.
If it were as simple as this, we wouldn't see vast differences in life expectancy in our very own country where those living in the most deprived areas have a lower life expectancy even as much as 30 years!"
You’re less likely to be vaccinated if you live in a deprived country.
“With the exception of clean, safe drinking water, no human endeavor rivals immunization in combating infectious diseases and reducing mortality rates.” - WHO |
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"So our immune systems are becoming an annual subscription service. Cool. The good folk at the pharmaceutical companies need to keep those shareholders happy i guess.
The alternative? we all die before we are 45 like we did 150 years ago ? Medicines and vaccines have drastically increased the average life expectancy ,
That is a fallacy. It's not all down to medicines and vaccines... other factors have contributed such as sanitation, education, nutrition.
If it were as simple as this, we wouldn't see vast differences in life expectancy in our very own country where those living in the most deprived areas have a lower life expectancy even as much as 30 years!"
It's worth going back to the figures. Obscenely, going to the wrong school, affecting which doors are opened to someone, does affect life expectancy, due to poverty here - as with places in poverty overseas.
Our medical advances have made the substantial improvements to life expectancy though. Fewer people die very young. Older people have more conditions that are treatable, leaving more to survive and have healthier final years than were possible before. |
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