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Whilst we all seem to be relaxing into the new version of normal, I just saw the story that the f1 circus have mandated all must be vaccinated. Is this to avoid an australian open tennis type scenario? Protect revenues? I mean they are all pretty much in a bubble from start to end of season anyway..? |
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over a year ago
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Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke) |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke) "
The problem here is if a F1 driver is not vaccinated they will at present face many entry issues for many countries meaning they wont be able to drive and basically putting them out of a very well paid job that allows them to retire very early with great prospects ahead of them. So what do you do? |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke) "
“ but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine.”
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F1 isn’t forcing anyone to have the vaccine. You have the option to opt out of F1 if you don’t want to be vaccinated.
F1 is held in different countries with different entry requirements into those countries. They don’t want to end up in disputes as we saw with tennis. |
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke)
“ but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine.”
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F1 isn’t forcing anyone to have the vaccine. You have the option to opt out of F1 if you don’t want to be vaccinated.
F1 is held in different countries with different entry requirements into those countries. They don’t want to end up in disputes as we saw with tennis. "
Implementing a rule does not require people to be forced. instead, you simply have to create a barrier that prevents them from violating it. |
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"Whilst we all seem to be relaxing into the new version of normal, I just saw the story that the f1 circus have mandated all must be vaccinated. Is this to avoid an australian open tennis type scenario? Protect revenues? I mean they are all pretty much in a bubble from start to end of season anyway..? "
They’re not in a bubble though. Even when they were meant to be bubbled the amount of interaction they have is huge.
Car driver to the airport, airport staff, then pilot (if private jet) or passengers & crew on flight
Car driver to hotel, hotel staff, catering staff in hotel
As events open up you’ve got journalists, fans, competition winners, hospitality events on top of the above.
The mechanics and crews have similar with ferry staff ans other passengers as they move the rigs around.
When you multiply that by the number of people in the paddock the number of interactions are huge. |
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke) "
My husband has to have vaccines to work abroad, has done for years.
He never feels he is being forced, just part of the job.
No drama, no issues. |
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke)
My husband has to have vaccines to work abroad, has done for years.
He never feels he is being forced, just part of the job.
No drama, no issues."
There is only drama where people choose to create it. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke)
“ but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine.”
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F1 isn’t forcing anyone to have the vaccine. You have the option to opt out of F1 if you don’t want to be vaccinated.
F1 is held in different countries with different entry requirements into those countries. They don’t want to end up in disputes as we saw with tennis.
Implementing a rule does not require people to be forced. instead, you simply have to create a barrier that prevents them from violating it. "
And creating a barrier is not the same as forcing someone to do something. |
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke)
“ but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine.”
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F1 isn’t forcing anyone to have the vaccine. You have the option to opt out of F1 if you don’t want to be vaccinated.
F1 is held in different countries with different entry requirements into those countries. They don’t want to end up in disputes as we saw with tennis. "
You have hit the nail on the head. They aren’t being forced to do anything. They are being told that to be part of the F1 paddock, they have to be jabbed. There is the option to do something else for a living instead. |
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"Whilst we all seem to be relaxing into the new version of normal, I just saw the story that the f1 circus have mandated all must be vaccinated. Is this to avoid an australian open tennis type scenario? Protect revenues? I mean they are all pretty much in a bubble from start to end of season anyway..? "
I remember chucking bags in a sleazyjey hold for both the williams F1 team and Mercedes team, so not always in a bubble when they fly on budget airlines. |
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke) "
It worked well for several tennis players in Australia, can you imagine some of the drivers not being able to race due to not being allowed in  |
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"Couldn’t give a crap about F1 sorry but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine. Their body, their choice, I have had two but won’t be having these Booster ones. (Luke)
“ but It’s wrong to force people to have any vaccine.”
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F1 isn’t forcing anyone to have the vaccine. You have the option to opt out of F1 if you don’t want to be vaccinated.
F1 is held in different countries with different entry requirements into those countries. They don’t want to end up in disputes as we saw with tennis. "
People in Australia aren’t being forced to take the jab either……
…..but they can go out to shop for food or to socialise or to work….basically live…, but yeah they’re not being forced to take the jab |
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No jab, no job is a threat, a threat to change an individual's choices to fit a world view or support the narrative.
And therefore should not be supported, in my opinion. |
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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago
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The only sensible thing to do as they are travelling and mixing all over the world, thats how it turned into a pandemic, no one is forcing them to have the jab they have a free choice to change job or career. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"PS there was a time you were required to have all sorts of jabs if you were travelling to certain countriesyou were and still are free not to go if you don't want the jabs."
mmmmm they can leave their careers, find a new vocation that's the choice ho my days.
if I won't go to say Australia because of not wanting the jab, I think I would still keep my employment, that is a choice to me.
but being told that I have to go to Australia or I will lose my employment is or sounds like a different choice to me, a choice is not a threat and that is how I see it no jab no job is a threat to me.
I have been presented with this choice, long story short, I left and soon after I discovered all the team I worked with also left that was over a year ago now, tomorrow im on zoom to my old employer, to discuss returning to work, no boosters no masks just back to normal.
funny how things change when one makes a stand. |
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"No jab, no job is a threat, a threat to change an individual's choices to fit a world view or support the narrative.
And therefore should not be supported, in my opinion."
My husband sees his vaccinations, many over the years, as his employer caring for his welfare.
Indeed, their care for other employees over the years if they find themselves sick while working overseas is exemplary.
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"if I won't go to say Australia because of not wanting the jab, I think I would still keep my employment, that is a choice to me.
but being told that I have to go to Australia or I will lose my employment is or sounds like a different choice to me, a choice is not a threat and that is how I see it no jab no job is a threat to me."
The people in the F1 circus took that job knowing that they would have to fly to different countries, and that they'd have to meet the entry rules of those countries. They already have to take a whole bunch of vaccines (typhus, yellow fever, malaria, etc.), and this is just another to add to the list.
You might think it's an imposition in your case, but the F1 workers will just see it as a necessary condition of their employment. |
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"if I won't go to say Australia because of not wanting the jab, I think I would still keep my employment, that is a choice to me.
but being told that I have to go to Australia or I will lose my employment is or sounds like a different choice to me, a choice is not a threat and that is how I see it no jab no job is a threat to me.
The people in the F1 circus took that job knowing that they would have to fly to different countries, and that they'd have to meet the entry rules of those countries. They already have to take a whole bunch of vaccines (typhus, yellow fever, malaria, etc.), and this is just another to add to the list.
You might think it's an imposition in your case, but the F1 workers will just see it as a necessary condition of their employment."
Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
If there really was a global pandemic F1 would stay in the pits. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs."
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job? |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?"
One vaxxed...easy choice |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?"
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens."
Then that team would cease to exist. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens."
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston |
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This is how things get done now, by example, all the highly expensive sports have to be included in the tax programme.
The French government once debated with their people regarding the burka and how muslim women where forced to wear them, they proposed a change in the law to ban burkas, the majority agreed, whilst others protested arguing it would affect them all.
the law passed, shortly after the first person fined under this law was a French men who was for the ban, and he was fined for covering his face in a public place.
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston"
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians! |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?"
Would that not depend on how your puppet masters defined success? Winning races? Winning championships? Satisfying sponsors? Making money? Supporting human rights? |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens."
Of corse you would 
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
Of corse you would
Money talks "
Does it? According to previous poster it would lose money. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!"
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
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For the sake of exploring the argument. What would be the feelings if they decreed all must not smoke, or drink, or be of "healthy" weight...
I can understand it makes their lives easier as a global travelling circus, but the right decision is not always the easy decision. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston "
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required."
As I said, if you're not a team priciple it's easy to say I'd do xyz.
Winston
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required."
I don't want to piss on anyones chips here, but the reality is a team principal does exactly what their team owners want.. Orders are usually to make more money by winning races and attracting sponsors. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required.
I don't want to piss on anyones chips here, but the reality is a team principal does exactly what their team owners want.. Orders are usually to make more money by winning races and attracting sponsors. "
I'm going to piss on your chips...the reality is I'm not an F1 team manager so I don't give af what they have to do!
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required.
I don't want to piss on anyones chips here, but the reality is a team principal does exactly what their team owners want.. Orders are usually to make more money by winning races and attracting sponsors.
I'm going to piss on your chips...the reality is I'm not an F1 team manager so I don't give af what they have to do!
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"For the sake of exploring the argument. What would be the feelings if they decreed all must not smoke, or drink... "
They have already banned smoking in the F1 paddock, and drinking is also banned in some of the countries they race in. |
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"...the reality is I'm not an F1 team manager so I don't give af what they have to do!
Then why are you spending so much time in this thread criticising what they do?"
Because I can. |
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required.
I don't want to piss on anyones chips here, but the reality is a team principal does exactly what their team owners want.. Orders are usually to make more money by winning races and attracting sponsors.
I'm going to piss on your chips...the reality is I'm not an F1 team manager so I don't give af what they have to do!
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I suspect the point you've missed is where you said "If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens."
What's being pointed out is that, if you were an F1 Team Manager, you'd do nothing of the sort.
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required.
I don't want to piss on anyones chips here, but the reality is a team principal does exactly what their team owners want.. Orders are usually to make more money by winning races and attracting sponsors.
I'm going to piss on your chips...the reality is I'm not an F1 team manager so I don't give af what they have to do!
I suspect the point you've missed is where you said "If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens."
What's being pointed out is that, if you were an F1 Team Manager, you'd do nothing of the sort.
Winston"
I'm afraid you're wrong. If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required.
I don't want to piss on anyones chips here, but the reality is a team principal does exactly what their team owners want.. Orders are usually to make more money by winning races and attracting sponsors.
I'm going to piss on your chips...the reality is I'm not an F1 team manager so I don't give af what they have to do!
I suspect the point you've missed is where you said "If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens."
What's being pointed out is that, if you were an F1 Team Manager, you'd do nothing of the sort.
Winston
I'm afraid you're wrong. If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
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"Different countries, different rules. Unvaccinated just miss out on those GPs.
How would you handle that if you were an F1 team manager? Would you employ an unvaxed person, and then another vaxed person for the 3 races that the first one can't go to? Or would you just employ the one vaxed person to do the whole job?
If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
What another country does "to" its citizens is nothing to do with F1.
It's not an enforced vaccine.
Meanwhile, in the real world, you'd be losing driver and constructor points and the prize money that goes with it, plus lots of lucrative sponsorship contracts.
You'd have no team to manage very quickly.
Winston
In the real world, I'm not an F1 team manager so I can lose as much money as I want.
I've already made the point that different countries have different rules.
As you've pointed out, it is all to do with money. F1 will bend their 'principles' to suit the country each GP is in. They are hardly moral guardians!
Not sure what the "moral guardians" comment has to do with anything.
In the real world, no matter who the team principal is, he will not want to lose money. Anymore than anyone else would.
It's easy to say "if I was team principal I can lose as much money as I want" when you're not a team principal.
What a daft justification.
Winston
Like I said, I'm not an F1 team manager so no justification required.
I don't want to piss on anyones chips here, but the reality is a team principal does exactly what their team owners want.. Orders are usually to make more money by winning races and attracting sponsors.
I'm going to piss on your chips...the reality is I'm not an F1 team manager so I don't give af what they have to do!
I suspect the point you've missed is where you said "If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens."
What's being pointed out is that, if you were an F1 Team Manager, you'd do nothing of the sort.
Winston
I'm afraid you're wrong. If I was an F1 team manager I would not let my team compete in countries that have enforced vaccination upon their citizens.
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You wouldn't be a team manager for long.
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