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By *inkpinkpink OP   Woman  over a year ago

Subalot Castle

Hey, just received an email saying LB is opening 4th July for couples and single people in bubbles. Strict covid guidelines in place.

I'd be more than happy to go along as a single female and just be a voyeur for the evening

Any one planning on going?

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By *oxiSyxx83Couple  over a year ago

hertfordshire

I can’t wait to see the new place!

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By *inkswithpanCouple  over a year ago

lough

We have just had a email about it as well. Not sure how we feel about going just yet ? Xx

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By *nterracial dreamCouple  over a year ago

London

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By *nterracial dreamCouple  over a year ago

London

We're thinking about going but it does seem a little soon

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By *andkitten2Couple  over a year ago

Folkestone

Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing

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By *lipsCouple  over a year ago

LEICESTER


"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing "

Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did.

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By *ngel Of SexMan  over a year ago

canning town

That’s my birthday date, can I couple with you on that day as a birthday present x

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By *andkitten2Couple  over a year ago

Folkestone


"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing

Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did."

How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hell no

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have bought a ticket for Sat 11th July. Need to support amazing clubs like these or we will lose them. David and Vikki have worked really hard to make it as safe as possible x

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

I wouldn’t hesitate in going

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By *extasy19Couple  over a year ago

Northampton

Will the hotels be open? We have to overnight for a visit to LBD. Would love to go, but are thinking it should be exhibitionist/voyeur for now.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"I wouldn’t hesitate in going "
Bet you are gagging Mrs.

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai

See they are taking new registrations online but with reduced capacity are they likely to approve new members ahead of July ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It might be I good idea to remember that the government hasn't confirmed that other parts hospitality industry can open yet. I think this club is jumping the gun. And when you take in to consideration the restrictions the government at looking at placing on simply going to the pub then it makes you wonder why you'd bother.

We saw what happened to the last club that tried to explore a loophole.

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By *eboudoirclubCouple  over a year ago

London

Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses


"I wouldn’t hesitate in going Bet you are gagging Mrs. "

You know me G

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By *urpees_and_wineCouple  over a year ago

Hove

We got the email too. We were booked in for the official opening weekend before lockdown got in the way. Can’t wait to see the new place.

But think we will wait a little bit yet - need a hotel for the weekend and not sure what will be available, we like to play and social distanced club experience sounds a bit odd (the email said face-coverings and gloves if you want to wear them )

We love LB and want to support but a bit soon for us sadly

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By *aintscoupleCouple  over a year ago

st helens

Still well over a thousand new cases everyday which we know of,still to early to open pubs never mind swingers clubs!

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By *onjo 61Man  over a year ago

northampton


"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing

Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did.

How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily "

I'm with you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Please try to support LB and just be sensible. Be aware not afraid. If you’re not comfortable going that’s fine too. 0.06% are being affected. If 24/7 news were constantly reporting road deaths and serious injuries, you’d never use the highway x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We got the email too. We were booked in for the official opening weekend before lockdown got in the way. Can’t wait to see the new place.

But think we will wait a little bit yet - need a hotel for the weekend and not sure what will be available, we like to play and social distanced club experience sounds a bit odd (the email said face-coverings and gloves if you want to wear them )

We love LB and want to support but a bit soon for us sadly"

I just spoke to a friend who runs a pub and he has had not been told he's allowed to open on 4th July and the guidance being offered at this point in time is thin on the ground. Do you have a link to the guidance you've been given and yes I am serious as he'd love to be open asap

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about.

Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date.

It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date.

Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t?

As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use.

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By *rHornyGentMan  over a year ago

South East London


"Hey, just received an email saying LB is opening 4th July for couples and single people in bubbles. Strict covid guidelines in place.

I'd be more than happy to go along as a single female and just be a voyeur for the evening

Any one planning on going?"

I will be there with Jacqui. See you there Pinky xx *fistbump*

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By *educerMan  over a year ago

Brentwood

Was out on a walk yesterday and actually walked past the new place, can’t wait

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple  over a year ago

Herne Bay


"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing

Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did.

How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily "

. Totally agree with you after effects of lockdown will be horrendous watch people’s attitudes change when this becomes more apparent

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By *himp_KittenCouple  over a year ago

Preston

If we were closer we'd be there, we've more chance of getting covid fighting our way through the countless pathetic protests en route to the club than from a club taking proper precautions and mixing with sensible like minded couples.

Hope opening goes to plan.

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By *andtsurreyCouple  over a year ago

Torbay


"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing

Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did.

How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily "

No one that works in an intensive care unit and believe me I know

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By *ass and kinkWoman  over a year ago

kinxville


"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing

Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did.

How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily

No one that works in an intensive care unit and believe me I know "

And not someone who has survived COVID like myself.....

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

This sounds interesting and I'm intrigued as to how this would work?

Would people be required to socialise solely in their bubbles?

For an avowed single like myself the whole point of going to a club is to mingle, chat, meet and socialise. If I'm unable to do any of those things then I can't justify going.

Also, as a single guy, assuming restrictions on play being in place would this be reflected in the entry cost???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We’re the same as many of the replies on here, would love to visit and will do soon but we think we’d need a little more time to feel 100% comfortable and therefore have the best night.

If you go please let us know how it is and to LB, great to see you’re planning ahead and can’t wait to see the new place x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about.

Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date.

It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date.

Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t?

As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use. "

Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet.

The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments.

An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing.

So nobody will know anything until tomorrow.

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By *0outof10coupleCouple  over a year ago

bath

Great news and hats off to David & Co and we will be going as soon as we can to see the new venue and say hello to old friends. It’s time to get on with life. ????????

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By *iss t mr sCouple  over a year ago

essex

We have received our e-mail,

Can’t wait to see the new club

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont want to seem naive, but if Le Boudiour have arranged a re opening with specific measures, with that mean all clubs (that have space) can also set to re open?

I don't want this to turn political or into an argument, just wondered how they've done it and what that means for other clubs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Do I have to be a member if I want to get involved ?

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By *winkleFairyCouple  over a year ago

Scotland


"I dont want to seem naive, but if Le Boudiour have arranged a re opening with specific measures, with that mean all clubs (that have space) can also set to re open?

I don't want this to turn political or into an argument, just wondered how they've done it and what that means for other clubs "

Le Boudoir have interpreted the announcements so far to mean they will be able to open with social distancing on 4th July (given that all government announcements up to this point have said the hospitality industry can begin to reopen from 4th July at the earliest). They are gambling that the caveats placed on reopening will be compatible with how they want to run the night.

The government have confirmed more details on this will be officially announced tomorrow - however I can’t see Swinging Clubs being covered in the briefing!

I would imagine a large part will be down to local council who licence each club and whether they are happy for them to reopen. Plus their insurance providers will have a say on whether they will provide cover based on their interpretation of the advice and I imagine the individual risk assessment the club has produced.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Very informative response, thank you very much

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Knowing from past how the club is run David and Vikki will have everything in place beforehand as the previous venue ran like clockwork and was spotlessly clean.

We sadly missed the first night at the new venue due to the virus and we will probably wait a month or so before returning but we will definitely be back and wish them the best of luck for July

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By *randMrsCambridgeCouple  over a year ago

Stansted (Herts/Essex)

We are delighted that Le B is reopening!

July will be our first anniversary of swinging - a cherry popped at Le B!

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dont want to seem naive, but if Le Boudiour have arranged a re opening with specific measures, with that mean all clubs (that have space) can also set to re open?

I don't want this to turn political or into an argument, just wondered how they've done it and what that means for other clubs

Le Boudoir have interpreted the announcements so far to mean they will be able to open with social distancing on 4th July (given that all government announcements up to this point have said the hospitality industry can begin to reopen from 4th July at the earliest). They are gambling that the caveats placed on reopening will be compatible with how they want to run the night.

The government have confirmed more details on this will be officially announced tomorrow - however I can’t see Swinging Clubs being covered in the briefing!

I would imagine a large part will be down to local council who licence each club and whether they are happy for them to reopen. Plus their insurance providers will have a say on whether they will provide cover based on their interpretation of the advice and I imagine the individual risk assessment the club has produced. "

No I don't believe swinging clubs will be specifically mentioned but Will come under adult entertainment and private members clubs.

My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


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My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours.

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I don't see how Le Boudoir and your friend's nightclub can open on July 4. The government website says "premises whose sole purpose is social interaction (such as nightclubs) may only open significantly later when the rate of infection has fallen further"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours.

I don't see how Le Boudoir and your friend's nightclub can open on July 4. The government website says "premises whose sole purpose is social interaction (such as nightclubs) may only open significantly later when the rate of infection has fallen further""

He's not sure yet as no proper announcements have been made.

Hes trying to think of ways he can repurpose. He's of a similar thinking to you.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

The announcement is 12.30pm today

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The announcement is 12.30pm today"

I really hope it gives lots of businesses clarity and at least a timeframe as to when they can open and how.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh dear.

Its not looking good.

As I'm pretty sure clubs will fall in to the close proximity and nightclub category.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

Will Le Boudoir still open July 4th ?

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"

My friend owns a small nightclub and his thinking is they probably will be able to open on the 4th but for reduced hours.

I don't see how Le Boudoir and your friend's nightclub can open on July 4. The government website says "premises whose sole purpose is social interaction (such as nightclubs) may only open significantly later when the rate of infection has fallen further""

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"The announcement is 12.30pm today

I really hope it gives lots of businesses clarity and at least a timeframe as to when they can open and how."

Yes

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By *anky_PankyWoman  over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville


"Will Le Boudoir still open July 4th ?"

According to their profile yes....

However it sounds like it will just be a bar and not an adult venue?

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By *winkleFairyCouple  over a year ago

Scotland

I’m genuinely intrigued as to why they feel they fall into the pub category rather than nightclub?

I would have absolutely said that any swingers club is a nightclub and not a public house...

Do they know more specific details than have been released to the general public?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Oh dear.

Its not looking good.

As I'm pretty sure clubs will fall in to the close proximity and nightclub category.

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this is my interpretation on the statement... i think they have jumped the gun here....

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By *en ukMan  over a year ago

harrow London

Just for couple and single women it's open on that date , just ai ask ???

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By *hybloke67Man  over a year ago

ROMFORD

Maybe I can shed a little light on this.

As a member I went to LB on the first Saturday night at their new venue. So I know the layout.

The venue itself operates in two parts. Friday and Saturday nights from 9:30pm as Le Boudoir club.

On other days Tuesday to Friday (I think) part of the venue operates as a pub/bar.

It has a fully licensed bar as you would expect from a pub.

So if the new guide lines are put into place it is quite possible it would be allowed to open.

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By *opmanforfun300Man  over a year ago

. Newcastle

There isn't a way any club can legally open on the 4th off July. Nightclubs can't open spas can't open I'm pretty sure if any of the local councils find clubs open they will be shut down

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By *peak and SpellCouple  over a year ago

Greenwich, SE LONDON

We've not been to the new venue, but the old venue definitely felt more like a bar (albeit BYOB)... No dancing to speak of, and quietish music.

Unlike other clubs we've been too which are much more nightclub like.

I can see why it would fall under the "bar" category in this case.

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By *untalicious CoupleCouple  over a year ago

South Yorkshire


"There isn't a way any club can legally open on the 4th off July. Nightclubs can't open spas can't open I'm pretty sure if any of the local councils find clubs open they will be shut down "

I'm pretty sure the council are aware. They won't risk their license

I'm pretty sure la boudoir know what they're doing

Your idea of a nightclub might not technically be what a nightclub is and might not technically be what la boudoir is licensed for.

As a layman and a quick Google search I don't even know the difference between a pub and a nightclub...a nightclub has a dance floor and DJ?

Isolate those areas, follow the guidance, put up signs and cover your backs...I see no issue why clubs cannot open, if under the brand social club. Not all clubs are licensed for alcohol. Whether they will or not is purely at their discretion with how comfortable they are justifying they've met the rules

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Maybe I can shed a little light on this.

As a member I went to LB on the first Saturday night at their new venue. So I know the layout.

The venue itself operates in two parts. Friday and Saturday nights from 9:30pm as Le Boudoir club.

On other days Tuesday to Friday (I think) part of the venue operates as a pub/bar.

It has a fully licensed bar as you would expect from a pub.

So if the new guide lines are put into place it is quite possible it would be allowed to open.

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only that part would then be allowed to open... in effect the rest would with be "off limits".... or open up the entire venue as a glorified bar but then no playing would be allowed......

i don't see how you'd be able to open it as a swinging club as such.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There isn't a way any club can legally open on the 4th off July. Nightclubs can't open spas can't open I'm pretty sure if any of the local councils find clubs open they will be shut down

I'm pretty sure the council are aware. They won't risk their license

I'm pretty sure la boudoir know what they're doing

Your idea of a nightclub might not technically be what a nightclub is and might not technically be what la boudoir is licensed for.

As a layman and a quick Google search I don't even know the difference between a pub and a nightclub...a nightclub has a dance floor and DJ?

Isolate those areas, follow the guidance, put up signs and cover your backs...I see no issue why clubs cannot open, if under the brand social club. Not all clubs are licensed for alcohol. Whether they will or not is purely at their discretion with how comfortable they are justifying they've met the rules

"

Pretty sure they don't know what they're doing all the accounts or were aware because they updated people and send emails before any official announcement.

I understand them wanting to get back to normal but unfortunately they made themselves look over eager and potentially not to put people safety Paramount.

There is no way they can open with any form of play.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Booking tickets now!! Fck social distancing

Hope the doctor doesn't say fk you if you get the virus but it would make me chuckle if he did.

How pleasant you are. Some of us think there shouldn’t have been a lockdown. At least not to the extent it was. And that number is growing daily "

This is why clubs shouldn't be opening

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

"

Very irresponsible... certainly not a club we'd visit anytime

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By *educerMan  over a year ago

Brentwood

For people that are moaning, just don’t go. Simple.

For everyone else, enjoy.

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

Like a previous post said. Your all experts now!

Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has.

Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK.

They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it.

My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation.

Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same.

So much ill informed opinion and negativity.

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By *educerMan  over a year ago

Brentwood


"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now!

Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has.

Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK.

They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it.

My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation.

Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same.

So much ill informed opinion and negativity.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now!

Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has.

Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK.

They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it.

My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation.

Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same.

So much ill informed opinion and negativity.

"

I hope they lose their license

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By *untalicious CoupleCouple  over a year ago

South Yorkshire


"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now!

Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has.

Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK.

They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it.

My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation.

Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same.

So much ill informed opinion and negativity.

I hope they lose their license "

That's a really poor attitude to have. It doesn't affect you in the slightest. Don't like it, don't go but keep your snide remarks to yourself.

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By *rla LewisCouple  over a year ago

Chelmsford

This post was always going to court controversy. We are booked for the 11th and cant wait. Thanks so much to all the team at LB for putting all the effort to get the club open again. Shall we say a night of bubbling and bubbles !

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By *educerMan  over a year ago

Brentwood


"This post was always going to court controversy. We are booked for the 11th and cant wait. Thanks so much to all the team at LB for putting all the effort to get the club open again. Shall we say a night of bubbling and bubbles !"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like a previous post said. Your all experts now!

Lancashire, Newcastle, somewhere (wtf?) I'll hazard a guess that none of you have ever been to Le Boudoir and have no understanding of the professionalism that the club has.

Hands down, these are the best club operators in the UK.

They won't have made the decision to open if they had any doubts and had not prepared for it.

My regret is that it's couples only - responsibly. I would love to have gone on the 4th. No hesitation.

Stop whinging people. Get on with your live's and leave others to do the same.

So much ill informed opinion and negativity.

I hope they lose their license

That's a really poor attitude to have. It doesn't affect you in the slightest. Don't like it, don't go but keep your snide remarks to yourself. "

Its a forum where people are allowed different opinions...so thanks for the advice but ill decline your invitation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have never been maybe will will one day but like others have said I’m sure they have done their due diligence and we wish them all the best.

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By *opmanforfun300Man  over a year ago

. Newcastle

Maybe I'm wrong, but I do work in the entertainment section myself and know what we are allowed and not allowed to do from the 4th of July, even now that distancing is down to one metre it still stops us opening certain parts. Hope I am wrong as really missing quest

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher


" I hope they lose their license "

And there it is. All that's wrong with the world. Pure spite and malice.

Sadly, it has shown you up for what you are, just spitefull.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I hope they lose their license

And there it is. All that's wrong with the world. Pure spite and malice.

Sadly, it has shown you up for what you are, just spitefull.

"

Nothing to do with that, no doubt you were out clapping a few weeks ago

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By *F100Couple  over a year ago

ashford

I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

It will be interesting to hear if any other clubs are planning on opening July 4th or if they are abiding by government regulations for nightclubs and spas.

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By *educerMan  over a year ago

Brentwood


"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. "

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By *andkitten2Couple  over a year ago

Folkestone


"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. "

Well said

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher


"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. "

100% spot on.

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By *oderndayloversCouple  over a year ago

London


"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. "

Very well said... A well constructed unbias post.some would do well to take note.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All the people saying that LB is a very well run club might be right but They may not be open on the 4th of July because they will not be allowed.

I think it's big wishful thinking on their part which I understand however it doesn't mean they can just do whatever they like and reopen. No other club in the country as far as I'm aware have Have allowed bookings before the government have given them the go ahead to open.

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By *ead dogCouple  over a year ago

east midlands

Where is LB I won’t to can. Rachel xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. "

What a great post you couldn’t sum up the club and staff any better

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By *randMrsCambridgeCouple  over a year ago

Stansted (Herts/Essex)


"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. "

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By *rla LewisCouple  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about.

Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date.

It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date.

Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t?

As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use.

Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet.

The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments.

An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing.

So nobody will know anything until tomorrow.

"

I believe Boris is going mention LeBoudoir specifically at his daily briefing. He will also announce sweeping measures to limit posts from Daily Mail readers on public forums !

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By *educerMan  over a year ago

Brentwood


"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about.

Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date.

It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date.

Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t?

As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use.

Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet.

The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments.

An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing.

So nobody will know anything until tomorrow.

I believe Boris is going mention LeBoudoir specifically at his daily briefing. He will also announce sweeping measures to limit posts from Daily Mail readers on public forums !"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would be quite concerned for your friend if he is unaware of the 4th as a reopening date. It has been spoken about for sometime, the government have often spoken about.

Yes this has always been as the earliest possible date, however you'd not be a great business owner at a time when all businesses have been losing money to not be ready for the earliest opening date.

It is pretty much an accepted consensus that the hospitality industry will reopen on the 4th. We’ve seen many companies within hospitality promoting this as their reopening date.

Our friends who own pubs and restaurants are all ready for the 4th. Are you really saying your friend isn’t?

As to the guidance, I’ve just simply googled ‘guidance advice for pubs and restaurants to reopen’ and was given several options for your friend to use.

Actually nothing has been confirmed for anybody Hospitality yet.

The current government guidelines as stated on their website States no date however they are working towards the 4th for some establishments.

An announcement is being made by Boris tomorrow at the daily briefing.

So nobody will know anything until tomorrow.

I believe Boris is going mention LeBoudoir specifically at his daily briefing. He will also announce sweeping measures to limit posts from Daily Mail readers on public forums !"

Yet again somebody that can't make a point without being rude

Never read the daily mail in my life, Actually where did I say he was gonna specifically mention that club.

Any intelligent person knows that it comes under private members/nightclub.

I really don't understand the need to try to belittle.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

and here we go with the "wagon circling".... its like if anyone debates the situation everyone comes in to defend the club!!!!!

as someone else says... it really doesn't matter what part of the country people come from, because in England everyone is basically going to have to operate at this time under the same set of guideline!!!

I am sure LB is a fine run club... but unless they have found a loophole that no other swinging club have, I don't see how they can operate as a swinging club...

if they have a drinks licence, they sure they could operate as a bar, and god bless then for doing that and being able to survive and if clubs can do this then brilliant! but that bar licence is still going to have limitations with means the "play" element is not going to included within licences

clubs for the time being are going to be "social only" venues.. i don't see how a swinging club can justify close quarter contact when nightclubs are still going to closed and threatres and concert venues are not going to be allowed live proformances

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple  over a year ago

walsall

Think a few licenced clubs will offer social nights for the likeminded where people can go have a drink and chat freely about the lifestyle without worry of being heard by Jo blogs

Clubs don't have to just cater for sex they can be a safe haven for the like minded to discuss and speak freely to people in the scene or friends they have met on the scene

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Think a few licenced clubs will offer social nights for the likeminded where people can go have a drink and chat freely about the lifestyle without worry of being heard by Jo blogs

Clubs don't have to just cater for sex they can be a safe haven for the like minded to discuss and speak freely to people in the scene or friends they have met on the scene"

And I'm sure that if they can they will but it all depends on the type of licence they have.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Think a few licenced clubs will offer social nights for the likeminded where people can go have a drink and chat freely about the lifestyle without worry of being heard by Jo blogs

Clubs don't have to just cater for sex they can be a safe haven for the like minded to discuss and speak freely to people in the scene or friends they have met on the scene"

Totally agree with this and said the same . I’d be happy to arrange a social in a club, chat and mix but not sure we are quiet ready to play yet. Want my holiday first!!

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple  over a year ago

walsall

Be great to see you both again too

Happily have a drink n a natter with you both been too long x

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Think a few licenced clubs will offer social nights for the likeminded where people can go have a drink and chat freely about the lifestyle without worry of being heard by Jo blogs

Clubs don't have to just cater for sex they can be a safe haven for the like minded to discuss and speak freely to people in the scene or friends they have met on the scene"

and if this is what clubs have to be for the next few months then i really hope that people do support this!!!! I'd rather clubs didn't go bust and out of business!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

"

Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting.

Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours.

Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning.

Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with.

I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week.

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By *urpees_and_wineCouple  over a year ago

Hove


"I don’t normally chip in on forums that often but I am going to now. LB is great venue run by amazing, lovely people. I am not affiliated to the club other than be being a member with my other half.

We have got to know the LB team well and class them as friends. If we lived nearer we would hopefully see them all socially too.

I’m commenting here as we have been to a number of other clubs and none of them compare to LB in its standards on all levels.

The club is spotlessly clean always and it has always been clear that they pay attention to every detail.

Currently all clubs are trying to run a business at the same time as providing amazing experiences for their many many regular and loyal members. It’s a very difficult time with a lot to balance. I can appreciate the difficulties as I am a front line NHS employee so yes I am well aware of the risks and current rules.

It is ridiculous to suggest or infer that LB would ever act in a way that would put the safety and well being of their members along with their global reputation at risk.

Please let’s stop the negativity and bitching about what club is doing what, when or how. They are not stupid and will be well informed, especially a team like the LB team.

If you don’t want to go then don’t. If you do then great, wether that be for a drink or more or whatever. But please let’s not give people anymore of a hard time than that have already had.

LB will always be our club of choice and we have made many friends as a result. We can’t wait to get back their as soon as our diary permits and hope that we can all stand behind our fave clubs.

Let’s keep this thread positive as we emerge lockdown towards hopefully a positive outcome for all. "

Pretty much sums up our feelings on this

Be back supporting LB team and having fun as soon as we feel comfortable

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting.

Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours.

Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning.

Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with.

I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week.

"

Well said

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By *horty4Man  over a year ago

london


"Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting.

Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours.

Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning.

Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with.

I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week.

"

Xtasia opening......

https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815

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By *winkleFairyCouple  over a year ago

Scotland


"Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting.

Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours.

Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning.

Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with.

I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week.

Xtasia opening......

https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815"

Le Boudoir are the only club (so far) opening for any type of sexual activity - they have confirmed on their profile they are open for couples and singles who have formed genuine support bubbles and their “ancillary floors” will be open and sanitised daily.

All other clubs are either remaining closed or opening purely as a pub / bar with their playrooms remaining closed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting.

Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours.

Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning.

Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with.

I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week.

Xtasia opening......

https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815

Le Boudoir are the only club (so far) opening for any type of sexual activity - they have confirmed on their profile they are open for couples and singles who have formed genuine support bubbles and their “ancillary floors” will be open and sanitised daily.

All other clubs are either remaining closed or opening purely as a pub / bar with their playrooms remaining closed. "

And how does the club know who is in what bubble. Answer they don’t.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"Hi,

Just for clarity, there is no loophole and announcing it now is just good business practice.

We are a licensed bar and we are working to the governments timeline.

It has announced that the hospitality industry will reopen on 4th July.

People need time to plan. It is no good announcing a plan to open one day before. We are working to the government's Covid guidelines at all times.

Operators have to adapt to the criteria for trading in this 'new normal'. we have had 3 months planning, so hardly jumping the gun.

The emphasis remains on the individuals though. If you don't feel confident enough to begin socialising, then we respect that. But similarly, taking the precautions required, those who do want to resume a degree of normality must be allowed to do so.

have a good day.

Donating the profits of your grand opening party to “NHS Heroes” is an absolute joke. Anyone working in a Covid ward would tell you the utter hypocrisy of running a close, intimate night for our good... it’s utterly insulting.

Perhaps take a bit of time to read up on South Korea’s re-opening of their gay district and how a single infectious man transmitted the virus to over 240 known people just by occupying a club and dancing for a few hours.

Your website seems to imply playrooms will be open, good luck with sterilising them... it takes us around an hour to sterilise a Covid patients bay after discharge and we’d then quarantine the space before use. If you have a single Infected person engaging in sexual activity in a space in your club any of the transmission models would suggest those using the space afterwards are almost certainly infected regardless of surface cleaning.

Your standpoint reads as a horrifically selfish and greedy act if I’m honest. I have every sympathy for club owners and the horrible economics they face but this is peoples lives that your gambling with.

I really do applaud the approach of Townhouse, Xtasia, Club Sx etc who have posted honestly as major clubs on here. All have continued to show a very selfless and considered approach to the pandemic. I can assure you any NHS hero would take their approach over your cash with complimentary patient supply any day of the week.

Xtasia opening......

https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1035815

Le Boudoir are the only club (so far) opening for any type of sexual activity - they have confirmed on their profile they are open for couples and singles who have formed genuine support bubbles and their “ancillary floors” will be open and sanitised daily.

All other clubs are either remaining closed or opening purely as a pub / bar with their playrooms remaining closed.

And how does the club know who is in what bubble. Answer they don’t. "

I suppose it's like BoJo asking the Great British public to 'do the right thing'? The lockdown relied on people adherring to rules and guidelines. Same thing here maybe? If it's good for the government......? Just thinking out loud xxxx

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

People can be fined for breaking lockdown rules

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"People can be fined for breaking lockdown rules"

Most don't judging by the parties all over Liverpool over the last 14 weeks hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If this club does open and allow sex to take place on there premises I should think they would be raided by the Rozzers and the Tabloid Press to have a field day with them. As we know journalists frequent these forums and are often on the look out for a story or two, beware the person with a zoom lense!

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By *ngelndevilCouple  over a year ago

Hertfordshire


"and here we go with the "wagon circling".... its like if anyone debates the situation everyone comes in to defend the club!!!!!

as someone else says... it really doesn't matter what part of the country people come from, because in England everyone is basically going to have to operate at this time under the same set of guideline!!!

I am sure LB is a fine run club... but unless they have found a loophole that no other swinging club have, I don't see how they can operate as a swinging club...

if they have a drinks licence, they sure they could operate as a bar, and god bless then for doing that and being able to survive and if clubs can do this then brilliant! but that bar licence is still going to have limitations with means the "play" element is not going to included within licences

clubs for the time being are going to be "social only" venues.. i don't see how a swinging club can justify close quarter contact when nightclubs are still going to closed and threatres and concert venues are not going to be allowed live proformances

"

To be honest I rather go to LB just for a drink and a chat than any other pub. At least there you can dress properly and be surrounded by sexy guests rather than d*unk blokes only interested in football.

If they can open good for them and finally something to do during the weekend nights!

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By *khot1Couple  over a year ago

somewhere over the rainbow

We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple  over a year ago

walsall

A few clubs are opening but have stated purely for social no prices as of yet but we would personally attend a club rather than a regular pub as we just never feel outta place different ages and no d*unken louts spouting off

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By *host63Man  over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

How this snotty place goes bankrupt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Will the hotels be open? We have to overnight for a visit to LBD. Would love to go, but are thinking it should be exhibitionist/voyeur for now. "

Hotels will be open but they are booking up fassst.

The website says rooms will be sectioned off. Which kind of feels like you can only meet limited people in your area. But I'm glad they're making a start. This business needs to survive for the sake of England

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them"

Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher


"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them

Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR"

Who knew Fab had do many legal experts? All speculating this and that and one really special single male who hopes it goes bankrupt! - that's a really constructive and factually based comment isn't it! Stop guessing people, it's pure FAKE NEWS!

What does all the negativity really achieve? At this time, more than ever since WW2, we need postive energy and go getters. Do you actually get off on being negative towards others? I and 3000 colleague's, just lost our jobs with Virgin, the country is in the crapper, socially and financially and all some of you can do is hope another one fails too. Seriously, unless you're all barristers - which would make this forum Hansard - you are all just guessing! You interpret the guidance one way, the next person interprets it another way. If there is a second spike, it will because of the 10000s going to the beach or illegal raves, or when you climb over each other at the supermarket to get to the bananas first! There are a thousand more risky things we all do daily, than than 20-30 people going to a lifestyle venue. If any of the clubs reopening have to close again in the future, it doesn't mean they were wrong to do so now. I personally applaud every pub, bar and restaurant that is trying to restart at this time. You should too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them

Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR

Who knew Fab had do many legal experts? All speculating this and that and one really special single male who hopes it goes bankrupt! - that's a really constructive and factually based comment isn't it! Stop guessing people, it's pure FAKE NEWS!

What does all the negativity really achieve? At this time, more than ever since WW2, we need postive energy and go getters. Do you actually get off on being negative towards others? I and 3000 colleague's, just lost our jobs with Virgin, the country is in the crapper, socially and financially and all some of you can do is hope another one fails too. Seriously, unless you're all barristers - which would make this forum Hansard - you are all just guessing! You interpret the guidance one way, the next person interprets it another way. If there is a second spike, it will because of the 10000s going to the beach or illegal raves, or when you climb over each other at the supermarket to get to the bananas first! There are a thousand more risky things we all do daily, than than 20-30 people going to a lifestyle venue. If any of the clubs reopening have to close again in the future, it doesn't mean they were wrong to do so now. I personally applaud every pub, bar and restaurant that is trying to restart at this time. You should too. "

Could you tell me what is more riskey than going to a club where they are allowing sexual play?

Other clubs have made it clear what the rules are where is the website for this club hasn't.

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

Are you even a member of LB?

Just wondering what motivates you to try to run the club down all the time? Did they knock you back?

What's your definition of sexual play? Because I dont see how you can actually have any idea of what will and won't be allowed when it reopens. You're just venting!

They made it very, very clear in there correspondence to members what the parameters for opening are. I'm in no doubt.

But, I also don't think they have any requirement to justify themselves to kangaroo court jurors on fab.

I refer to my previous post. What energises your negativity? It must be horrible to be this way all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are you even a member of LB?

Just wondering what motivates you to try to run the club down all the time? Did they knock you back?

What's your definition of sexual play? Because I dont see how you can actually have any idea of what will and won't be allowed when it reopens. You're just venting!

They made it very, very clear in there correspondence to members what the parameters for opening are. I'm in no doubt.

But, I also don't think they have any requirement to justify themselves to kangaroo court jurors on fab.

I refer to my previous post. What energises your negativity? It must be horrible to be this way all the time.

"

I'm not running any club down the people that go to this club are showing themselves up by their nastiness.

It's not a kangaroo court its actually the law and as a member of the swinging community and a member of this sites I would like to believe that clubs are sticking to the law.

negativity from anybody except the people like yourself that feel the need to run others down because they dare to have an opinion.

There is absolutely no need for you to be personal and make a asumption's this is a public forum and I will post if I wish to.

I have been able to have an opinion and voice it without being personal or nasty please Grant me the same courtesy.

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

OK, so let's take a look at your posts, contrast them to mine and see which are the negative ones?

Opinion, yes, I agree you are entitled to one. As am I. But law... I don't think you're correct. I have simply queried the level of expertise on the matter from people quoting this and that.

Are you a lawyer? If not, then how can you (or some of the other posts) repeatedly claim what's legal and what's not?

Opinions are pretty worthless without real foundation.

I think people read the government guidance and interpret it according to how they feel about Covid.

Personally, I think the risk to wide spread mental health issues in the community from a sustained lockdown is greater than risk of contracting Covid.

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

Also, I asked you what your definition of sexual play is. In case your definition is not what's on the table at LB, but, you seem to have swerved that.

Can you help me out?

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You were exceptionally rude and personal and there was no need for it.

The law is very clear you do not need to have a degree to be able to figure it out.

Social distancing is an absolute must and absolutely no close contact must happen inside a venue.

People's mental health is not going to suffer because they can't play in a club.

There is no interpretation of the rules or the law it is what it.

Other Clubs have been very clear about what is and isn't allowed even from people that have received the emails and from looking at their website this club has not.

Now please remember that it is possible to have a conversation and the discussion without trying to smear someone's character.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Also, I asked you what your definition of sexual play is. In case your definition is not what's on the table at LB, but, you seem to have swerved that.

Can you help me out?

Thanks "

Anything but isn't a metre apart is against the law so I don't need to give you a definition.

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

You assume then that play is multiple people at any one time?

What if its just an exhibitionist couple playing on their own?

With anyone else at least 1m, maybe 2m away.

Is that illegal?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You assume then that play is multiple people at any one time?

What if its just an exhibitionist couple playing on their own?

With anyone else at least 1m, maybe 2m away.

Is that illegal?

"

No you are making assumptions at no point did I say that.

No close contact is allowed, Why do you think gyms, spa's ect are not allowed to open. So what I have been saying all along is absolutely right.

No other club is opening their play rooms,if they were able to do this do you not think they would?

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

I wasn't personal, you choose to take it personally.

And the law is far from clear. That's why people often do need a degree to represent it.

Seriously, I'm not having a pop at you. But, I challenge remarks that have no foundation.

Mental health is going to be an enormous issue arising from Covid. Way beyond anyone who does or does not choose to go to a swingers club.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wasn't personal, you choose to take it personally.

And the law is far from clear. That's why people often do need a degree to represent it.

Seriously, I'm not having a pop at you. But, I challenge remarks that have no foundation.

Mental health is going to be an enormous issue arising from Covid. Way beyond anyone who does or does not choose to go to a swingers club.

"

I'm not sure how mental health is relevant to this discussion to be honest.

The law is clear!

No activity should take place where it is possible for spread of the virus, Unless the playrooms are being completely sanitised then I would say this would fall outside of that.

No showers or changing rooms are allowed to open so I really don't understand how hygiene standards can be kept up.

I have no agenda, I wish LB like all other clubs every success as we have already lost Cupids to this.

I Just want it done safely and the health of every member of the community to be put first.

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

That's the whole point!!!! It is you (and others - so you don't wrongly accuse me of being personal again) who is making assumptions.

So many comments about what's lawful and what's not. All making assumptions about what will be going on at LB.

But you don't know. Do you?

OK, scenario. A couple, locked down for 3 months with kids at home are desperate for some excitement. They go to LB on the 4 July. She wears her lingerie - can't do that at the local pub, dances a little to the slow, sexy, music - rather than the trash metal in the boozer, and they decide to go to LBs dungeon where they proceed to enjoy the use of the spanking bench - also unlikely to be found in their local pub. No one else joins in with them. In fact no one comrs within a metre of them. Which part of that is still illegal?

I just wish I was in a relationship and could go!

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

And how do you know that the play areas are not being sanitised?

How do you know that the showers and changing rooms are not closed off?

Its all speculation!!!

LBs email set out the extra levels of sanitising that they are going to. And, they were already the cleanest club I've ever gone to.

I think I need to move in now. Breakfast and a run beckon.

Have a good day

X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's the whole point!!!! It is you (and others - so you don't wrongly accuse me of being personal again) who is making assumptions.

So many comments about what's lawful and what's not. All making assumptions about what will be going on at LB.

But you don't know. Do you?

OK, scenario. A couple, locked down for 3 months with kids at home are desperate for some excitement. They go to LB on the 4 July. She wears her lingerie - can't do that at the local pub, dances a little to the slow, sexy, music - rather than the trash metal in the boozer, and they decide to go to LBs dungeon where they proceed to enjoy the use of the spanking bench - also unlikely to be found in their local pub. No one else joins in with them. In fact no one comrs within a metre of them. Which part of that is still illegal?

I just wish I was in a relationship and could go!

"

And herein lies the problem.

Firstly dancing is not allowed in any venue or any live music including djs.

Absolutely nobody has a problem with somebody going to a club and them wearing lingerie what is a problem is people playing inside that club.

Whether that is with their partner is beside the point.

I have made no asumption's.

I have simply stated that if any club allows people to play inside its venue it is breaking the law.

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

Give me strength!!!

It was a hypothetical. OK, so she doesn't dance! I don't think LB has a DJ on their opening party anyway, so they probably know about this.

Xx

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By *exylondongrlWoman  over a year ago

Esher

Where is it explicitly written in the guidance, that a couple playing together is breaking the law?

I know what Bojo did announce, that 2 couples fron different households could now meet up, even in a hotel. Will they be socially distanced?

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Personally I’m fed up with killjoys

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By *winkleFairyCouple  over a year ago

Scotland


"Where is it explicitly written in the guidance, that a couple playing together is breaking the law?

I know what Bojo did announce, that 2 couples fron different households could now meet up, even in a hotel. Will they be socially distanced? "

The guidance on two households meeting from 4th July, indoors or out, is very clear that social distancing remains - whether people follow the guidance is another matter!

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By *khot1Couple  over a year ago

somewhere over the rainbow

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

A lot of knickers in a twist over this club.

If the club can make it work fair play.

The projected activity in this pales in comparison to everything else going on the length and breadth of this country.

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By *khot1Couple  over a year ago

somewhere over the rainbow

Lol no knickers twisted.. Just stating what's what.. Yet you get the so called expert chime in.. Who apparently has been to evey club worldwide yet doesn't have a single verification lol.. And not been seen for 3 years lol..

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Also, I asked you what your definition of sexual play is. In case your definition is not what's on the table at LB, but, you seem to have swerved that.

Can you help me out?

Thanks "

actually the way it has been defined by the government in the advice they have given is "very close quarter contact"... which is why they have still closed nightclubs spas and indoor gyms, and theatres can concert venues to live proformances...

now, i would love to give the benefit of the doubt.... but i don't see how they are going to get around that!

good luck with the bar with social distancing bit..... but they are really pushing the guidelines if any play is invvolved

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By *weetnjuicycoupleCouple  over a year ago

nottingham

Really boring here but as it’s my field of work I thought I’d mention it

It is all “guidance “ — it is not a legal instruction

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By *asIsaCouple  over a year ago

harrow


"That's the whole point!!!! It is you (and others - so you don't wrongly accuse me of being personal again) who is making assumptions.

So many comments about what's lawful and what's not. All making assumptions about what will be going on at LB.

But you don't know. Do you?

OK, scenario. A couple, locked down for 3 months with kids at home are desperate for some excitement. They go to LB on the 4 July. She wears her lingerie - can't do that at the local pub, dances a little to the slow, sexy, music - rather than the trash metal in the boozer, and they decide to go to LBs dungeon where they proceed to enjoy the use of the spanking bench - also unlikely to be found in their local pub. No one else joins in with them. In fact no one comrs within a metre of them. Which part of that is still illegal?

I just wish I was in a relationship and could go!

"

If you are such an 'expert', you would know that there is no music allowed at pubs etc

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By *asIsaCouple  over a year ago

harrow


"Lol no knickers twisted.. Just stating what's what.. Yet you get the so called expert chime in.. Who apparently has been to evey club worldwide yet doesn't have a single verification lol.. And not been seen for 3 years lol.. "

Exactly - some expert!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Music is allowed in pubs. Just thought I’d mention it so you can keep up the wealth of knowledge you seem to have over everyone.

The rule is ‘no loud music’. So people don’t need to shout.

Hope you have a good weekend.

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By *weetnjuicycoupleCouple  over a year ago

nottingham

No live performances of any kind are permitted

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By *ovelybumCouple  over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells


"

Really boring here but as it’s my field of work I thought I’d mention it

It is all “guidance “ — it is not a legal instruction "

Ha ha, thanks for that! The amount of times the word "illegal" or against the low is mentioned on this forums is laughable.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

Let's hope people follow the 'guidance' Some will, some won't

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By *khot1Couple  over a year ago

somewhere over the rainbow

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Yea it's guidance.. Then why don't the gyms or cinemas or clubs open up then "

Cinemas can open from 4th July

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

Government have indicated gyms may be able to open mid July

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

They decided to not open gyms and clubs because of the 'close proximity ' of people. Some people struggle with social distancing I guess they're taking it slowly to see how the pubs opening goes.

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By *asIsaCouple  over a year ago

harrow


"Music is allowed in pubs. Just thought I’d mention it so you can keep up the wealth of knowledge you seem to have over everyone.

The rule is ‘no loud music’. So people don’t need to shout.

Hope you have a good weekend.

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I bow to your superior knowledge as no duo bar you have your definition of 'loud'.

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By *asIsaCouple  over a year ago

harrow

Doubt

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton

I am not a member of Le Boudior I have applied twice been rejected twice.At the end of the day if Le Boudior have followed the government guidelines and they have been allowed to open then who are we to question that.Whenever Le Boudior comes up on the forums it seems to divide opinions however I have just had a look at their website and whilst I couldn’t see the price for the event on 4th July I did see something saying profits would be donated to the NHS which I am sure we all agree is a good thing.It sounds like it going to be a busy night as it looks like it’s going to be sold out according to some who have posted on the thread.I hope all goes well for Le Boudior on the 4th July and the future and that they raise lots of profit for the NHS.

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By *khot1Couple  over a year ago

somewhere over the rainbow

Exactly.. Look I'm all for clubs re opening we attend a few ourselves and would of gone fof had it not been cancelled... What I'm saying is.. Every club that is reopening has specifically stated no play.. No play rooms... And so on.. As your not getting the full benefits of a swingers club your just getting the basics of a normal bar they have all slashed there entrance fee's... The only club that I know of that is charging full price is L. B... if ppl want to pay then great.. But they haven't stated social only.. In fact they have sort of said you can play but only in bubbles.. Law, guidance or whatever you wanna call it.

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By *khot1Couple  over a year ago

somewhere over the rainbow

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"I have just had a look at their website and whilst I couldn’t see the price for the event on 4th July I did see something saying profits would be donated to the NHS "

On their website it says 4th July is £70 per couple.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Exactly.. Look I'm all for clubs re opening we attend a few ourselves and would of gone fof had it not been cancelled... What I'm saying is.. Every club that is reopening has specifically stated no play.. No play rooms... And so on.. As your not getting the full benefits of a swingers club your just getting the basics of a normal bar they have all slashed there entrance fee's... The only club that I know of that is charging full price is L. B... if ppl want to pay then great.. But they haven't stated social only.. In fact they have sort of said you can play but only in bubbles.. Law, guidance or whatever you wanna call it. "
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So if it's only guidance, they aren't breaking any laws. Guess it's up to the individuals, to assess their own risk, like it is with any situation we choose to be in, pubs, travelling etc

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By *ovelybumCouple  over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells


" It's up to the individuals, to assess their own risk, like it is with any situation we choose to be in, pubs, travelling etc"

Firmly believe most of the people are not imbeciles, and are perfectly able to assess the risc they are taking with anything in life, and should be left to do whatever they feel is right for them, without being looked at like a mass murderers.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


" It's up to the individuals, to assess their own risk, like it is with any situation we choose to be in, pubs, travelling etc

Firmly believe most of the people are not imbeciles, and are perfectly able to assess the risc they are taking with anything in life, and should be left to do whatever they feel is right for them, without being looked at like a mass murderers. "

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Have to agree.These things can't be policed, which I guess is why they have changed it to 'guidelines'. I'm looking after me and my family now, by not going to clubs,pubs,beaches etc we can do no more.

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By *weetnjuicycoupleCouple  over a year ago

nottingham

We absolutely agree with peoples right to go or not go — but here’s the question

If a swingers club opened tonight and opened as they used to - Including the right to play — and took some reasonable precautions - like a temperature scanner on entry and took people’s contact details

Would you go and would you play - shoot us down but we would

No real difference to the thousands on Bournemouth beach when u think about it .

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


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We absolutely agree with peoples right to go or not go — but here’s the question

If a swingers club opened tonight and opened as they used to - Including the right to play — and took some reasonable precautions - like a temperature scanner on entry and took people’s contact details

Would you go and would you play - shoot us down but we would

No real difference to the thousands on Bournemouth beach when u think about it ."

No we wouldn't

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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We absolutely agree with peoples right to go or not go — but here’s the question

If a swingers club opened tonight and opened as they used to - Including the right to play — and took some reasonable precautions - like a temperature scanner on entry and took people’s contact details

Would you go and would you play - shoot us down but we would

No real difference to the thousands on Bournemouth beach when u think about it ."

Actually it’s a massive difference... an infected person playing, breath hard etc in an internal space is a perfect storm for infecting others. The same person on a beach is a dramatically reduced risk in comparison.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Xx

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By *iss LovelyWoman  over a year ago

Here and There

My local pub is reopening in line with guidelines. Only households/bubbles are allowed to sit together. Tables will be spaced out. No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar. Tables have to be booked in advance etc.

If LB is opening as a bar only, and is going to adhere to ALL the relevant guidelines, then I see no problem with it. It won’t create any more risk than the other bars/pubs.

If it’s going to allow any kind of physical interaction between tables, or for couples to fuck and others to watch then it’s not allowed. If it was then all the other clubs would be open too.

I don’t know what LB are proposing when inside because I’m not a member, but let’s hope they’re going to do the right thing and not anyone play.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar.

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I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar.

I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. "

Me too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar.

I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. "

It is table service only, well that's what my local pub have said.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar.

I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service.

It is table service only, well that's what my local pub have said. "

. I thought it was part of the guidelines.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

I have just reread the guidelines and it actually says "table service where possible". Yet another example of the government's vague regulations !

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"I have just reread the guidelines and it actually says "table service where possible". Yet another example of the government's vague regulations !"

Yes you're right there and applies to most of the guidelines, wording changed from laws/rules to guidelines

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

The 1m+ is most confusing as people now think they only need to stay 1m apart but it is still 2m unless there are masks and perspex screens.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"The 1m+ is most confusing as people now think they only need to stay 1m apart but it is still 2m unless there are masks and perspex screens. "
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Yes that one confused me

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

I believe it is still illegal for groups of more than 30 to meet so will pubs and clubs have a maximum of 30 ? Will staff numbers be included in the 30 ?

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By *iss LovelyWoman  over a year ago

Here and There


"No more than 2 people at the bar at once. No lingering at the bar. Only allowed to leave your table to go to the loo or bar.

I thought no one could go to the bar and it must be table service. "

Not sure, that’s just what they said

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We're members and had the email.. By law they can't open any play areas or showers or anything spa related... All that can be done is a social gathering at a distance of atleast a metre apart... People attending expecting to see or get involved in any sort of play will be disappointed, if the club does any of this then they will be shut down and possibly fines will be made, it's rather sneaky on the clubs part as they haven't told members they are paying full price for a social, they have also said as long as your in your bubble your be fine, absolutely ridiculous.. No sexual activity means no sexual contact if your in a bubble or not.. Good luck to the club as its sold out already but this could end badly for them

Wow. If this is true it will be seriously bad PR

Who knew Fab had do many legal experts? All speculating this and that and one really special single male who hopes it goes bankrupt! - that's a really constructive and factually based comment isn't it! Stop guessing people, it's pure FAKE NEWS!

What does all the negativity really achieve? At this time, more than ever since WW2, we need postive energy and go getters. Do you actually get off on being negative towards others? I and 3000 colleague's, just lost our jobs with Virgin, the country is in the crapper, socially and financially and all some of you can do is hope another one fails too. Seriously, unless you're all barristers - which would make this forum Hansard - you are all just guessing! You interpret the guidance one way, the next person interprets it another way. If there is a second spike, it will because of the 10000s going to the beach or illegal raves, or when you climb over each other at the supermarket to get to the bananas first! There are a thousand more risky things we all do daily, than than 20-30 people going to a lifestyle venue. If any of the clubs reopening have to close again in the future, it doesn't mean they were wrong to do so now. I personally applaud every pub, bar and restaurant that is trying to restart at this time. You should too. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everyone is entitled to their Informed opinion and freedom of choice. Latest Covid study in UK:

Under-50’s more likely to die from an accident

Under-40’s more likely to die in a car crash

Under-25’s more likely to die from the flu

*Source: University of Cambridge (June 23rd 2020)

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Everyone is entitled to their Informed opinion and freedom of choice. Latest Covid study in UK:

Under-50’s more likely to die from an accident

Under-40’s more likely to die in a car crash

Under-25’s more likely to die from the flu

*Source: University of Cambridge (June 23rd 2020)"

and all those people are in danger of passing it on to people who may be a lot my compromised that they are!!

i actually don't have any problem with the bar element at all, because we are all going to have to make that decision in regards to bars/cafes/restaurants.... its the playing element that rings so many alarm bells at this point

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everyone is entitled to their Informed opinion and freedom of choice. Latest Covid study in UK:

Under-50’s more likely to die from an accident

Under-40’s more likely to die in a car crash

Under-25’s more likely to die from the flu

*Source: University of Cambridge (June 23rd 2020)"

So people under 50 can behave exactly how they like and if they happen to pass it on to somebody over 50 or vulnerable that's their lookout is it!

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Wish I could go

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everyone is entitled to their Informed opinion and freedom of choice. Latest Covid study in UK:

Under-50’s more likely to die from an accident

Under-40’s more likely to die in a car crash

Under-25’s more likely to die from the flu

*Source: University of Cambridge (June 23rd 2020)"

Cambridge University is pretty effective in terms of referencing value x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think you’re missing the point about the Cambridge study. It’s taking into account ALL factors such as likelihood of transmission etc. This is about managing risk - the likelihood of contracting Covid (broken down by age group) is LESS than the other life risks mentioned.

Google “global road death and serious injury” - that’s huge and not being reported daily, on 24/7 news.

I absolutely respect your decision not to attend a club - but please acknowledge others when they weigh up the tiny risk, which currently stands at 0.06%.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think you’re missing the point about the Cambridge study. It’s taking into account ALL factors such as likelihood of transmission etc. This is about managing risk - the likelihood of contracting Covid (broken down by age group) is LESS than the other life risks mentioned.

Google “global road death and serious injury” - that’s huge and not being reported daily, on 24/7 news.

I absolutely respect your decision not to attend a club - but please acknowledge others when they weigh up the tiny risk, which currently stands at 0.06%."

Well put I’d say x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

“Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world...the leading non-natural cause of death in the USA, and eighth leading cause of death globally for ALL age groups. It’s the leading cause of death globally for those aged 5–29”.

(Source: World Health Organisation)

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