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By *aughtylama OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Sheffield

If you saw a homeless lady on the Street would you help her and how??

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By *iss.ddWoman 2 weeks ago

Leeds + Newcastle

Why a lady and not a man?

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By *heelerMan 2 weeks ago

Northants

Are they really homeless and not just beggers.

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By *elpful and caringMan 2 weeks ago

Scarborough

Is this a scenario from a porno that you have seen?

I did once see two homeless might arguing and then coming to blows as one homeless man accused the other of not actually being homeless as he had a flat in town.

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By *ivemealadybonerWoman 2 weeks ago

somewhere


"Why a lady and not a man?"

I was thinking this myself. Myself personally and I know this might sound horrible to some, you do see quite a lot of homeless people on one stretch of high street sometimes, how do you decide which one needs help more? I rarely carry cash with me, so while I sympathise, I don't help them, it I was to buy a cup of coffee and see another a few steps up, I'd feel awful I couldn't buy for them too.

That said, if I see a post on Facebook about people needing furniture because they are starting out on their own due to fleeing a partner etc (or anything else) and I have what they are looking for, I always try and help.

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By *aughtylama OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Sheffield


"Why a lady and not a man?"
a friend told me they saw a homeless lady sat in the street. So trampy she had become my friend looked twice not sure if male or female then kept walking by. If left me thinking if more should be done to help, perhaps I've a weekness because it was so lady

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By *utstandingMan 2 weeks ago

HX

I'm a lady.

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By *eandthebossCouple 2 weeks ago

Walsall

We find the easiest way is to donate to a charity that helps the homeless and then atleast the money can help more than one person.

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By *ipsforlipsMan 2 weeks ago

Nuneaton

The most supportive attitude towards homeless people I've seen was in Brighton. There supporting those less fortunate was almost cultural. I've seen taxies slow down and drop food (packets of ready to eat items); churches open there doors as clothes distribution points; people stop, check, then buy an extra fast food meal for a person, or just taking the time to stop and chat.

Coming from towns with more traditional/negative attitudes, this was quite shocking, but it opened my eyes to a more humane way of treating people. (Yes, it has changed the way I respond to people.)

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By *aughtylama OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Sheffield


"The most supportive attitude towards homeless people I've seen was in Brighton. There supporting those less fortunate was almost cultural. I've seen taxies slow down and drop food (packets of ready to eat items); churches open there doors as clothes distribution points; people stop, check, then buy an extra fast food meal for a person, or just taking the time to stop and chat.

Coming from towns with more traditional/negative attitudes, this was quite shocking, but it opened my eyes to a more humane way of treating people. (Yes, it has changed the way I respond to people.) "

Interesting.

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By *in89Man 2 weeks ago

Bristol

Not sure what gender has to do with it but I help to best of my ability without handing cash over.

I have in the past taken odd one in for the night and offered hot shower, clean clothes and a warm night. Not once did I ever have anything taken for the record

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By *aughtylama OP   Man 2 weeks ago

Sheffield


"Not sure what gender has to do with it but I help to best of my ability without handing cash over.

I have in the past taken odd one in for the night and offered hot shower, clean clothes and a warm night. Not once did I ever have anything taken for the record "

you are a kind helpful soul.

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By *onkeynutWoman 2 weeks ago

somewhere

No more than I would help a man. Being kind isn’t gender specific to me.

Saying that, I don’t give cash. Sometimes I’ll buy them some food or a drink, it really depends where I am and what I’m doing as to whether I will help.

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By *in89Man 2 weeks ago

Bristol


"Not sure what gender has to do with it but I help to best of my ability without handing cash over.

I have in the past taken odd one in for the night and offered hot shower, clean clothes and a warm night. Not once did I ever have anything taken for the record you are a kind helpful soul. "

Just doing what's right, where I used to live I could see park benches opposite I couldn't just be cosy and ignore the person outside that could freeze to death. Would always offer a hot drink first to try gauge them

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 2 weeks ago

Leeds

If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

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By *weet LisaTV/TS 2 weeks ago

Crawley

I took someone home with me once decades ago, we went from London to mine in Crawley. A few days later she went back.

Before Covid I was giving money to a bloke in town. All his money went on coffee, food and beer. He'd get up from his bed, walk past the fruit and veg stall, grab something look at the people who's stall it was and do the little throw in the air catch. He's so funny when I saw him do that.

He told me the Greggs opposite that stall gave him food and coffee for free.

He works for the fruit and veg people now part time, told me last year he was staying in their lock up.

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By *melia DominaTV/TS 2 weeks ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

Unfortunately Edinburgh has a known issue with what is described as professional beggars.

They work in groups, one every few hundred yards, sitting on a little suit case. At the end of the day, they take off the drab clothes, pull out their I phone catch a tram back to their home.

These groups, mainly woman are most likely trafficked or brought across from Europe and forced into this life.

Edinburgh Council aren't exactly helping much to eliminate this scam and also assist in re homing or deporting or whatever needs to be done.

The problem is that people ignore a true homeless person thinking they are another scam when they are really in need.

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By *atureGuy62Man 2 weeks ago

DE7


"Why a lady and not a man?a friend told me they saw a homeless lady sat in the street. So trampy she had become my friend looked twice not sure if male or female then kept walking by. If left me thinking if more should be done to help, perhaps I've a weekness because it was so lady "

In most cities they are guaranteed one hot meal a day. If you want to help give to charities that feed and give them clothes and help then get housed, that's more use.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 2 weeks ago

King's Crustacean


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr "

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 2 weeks ago

Leeds


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?"

Rats.

The mr

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By *rHotNottsMan 2 weeks ago

Dubai

I’m a bit of a sucker in countries where it easy to be generous. I exchange notes for smaller ones at the hotel before I go on a photo walk.

In the uk , rarely because there’s so much support available. I think it’s better to work through organised programs to be honest as they know what they are doing

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 2 weeks ago

King's Crustacean


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr "

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman 2 weeks ago

ashford

Give them money if I had cash on me x

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By *he turned me GreyCouple 2 weeks ago

Warwick and Coventry


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr "

There for the grace of God go I......

Mr

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

There's a charity round here that helps homeless people I'd refer her to them.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 2 weeks ago

Leeds


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket. "

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

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By *oody BMan 2 weeks ago

Mcr. - The Gilded Palace of Sin


"If you saw a homeless lady on the Street would you help her and how?? "

No. But I’d help a homeless bear.

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By *angOnBunnyCouple 2 weeks ago

Ipswich

Yes, but round here drugs are rife amongst the homeless. Never give cash, will buy / give food only.

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By *orthernJayMan 2 weeks ago

Overseas

After a series of poor decisions, my son was homeless for about a year. His ‘inside knowledge’ changed my perception of homelessness entirely!

“Do you know what the worst thing about being homeless is?”

….. hunger, cold, loneliness, fear, shame …..

“You’re invisible, when you’re homeless, you’re invisible to almost everyone else”

His words, not mine.

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By *orthernJayMan 2 weeks ago

Overseas


"Yes, but round here drugs are rife amongst the homeless. Never give cash, will buy / give food only."

Drugs are rife everywhere, from housewives juggling real life popping Oxy to get through the day, prescription or otherwise, to twenty something men snorting white all weekend trying to impress each other …….homelessness is a complex problem, reductionist labelling akin to “bag heads” et al is stereotypical and simply ignorant.

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"After a series of poor decisions, my son was homeless for about a year. His ‘inside knowledge’ changed my perception of homelessness entirely!

“Do you know what the worst thing about being homeless is?”

….. hunger, cold, loneliness, fear, shame …..

“You’re invisible, when you’re homeless, you’re invisible to almost everyone else”

His words, not mine. "

For this reason I always try to make eye contact and smile or say hello to the homeless people I see. Very few if any openly ask for money in this area but air BnB and no fault evictions are making more and more people homeless.

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"Yes, but round here drugs are rife amongst the homeless. Never give cash, will buy / give food only.

Drugs are rife everywhere, from housewives juggling real life popping Oxy to get through the day, prescription or otherwise, to twenty something men snorting white all weekend trying to impress each other …….homelessness is a complex problem, reductionist labelling akin to “bag heads” et al is stereotypical and simply ignorant."

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By *imi_RougeWoman 2 weeks ago

Portsmouth


"The most supportive attitude towards homeless people I've seen was in Brighton. There supporting those less fortunate was almost cultural. I've seen taxies slow down and drop food (packets of ready to eat items); churches open there doors as clothes distribution points; people stop, check, then buy an extra fast food meal for a person, or just taking the time to stop and chat.

Coming from towns with more traditional/negative attitudes, this was quite shocking, but it opened my eyes to a more humane way of treating people. (Yes, it has changed the way I respond to people.) "

We've got a few really good charities in Portsmouth that do similar. I think it's always best to contact the charities and let them know of the person rather than the other way round. There trained and have experience approaching anyone in need.

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By *dinburghWomanWoman 2 weeks ago

Edinburgh

Not sure if it’s true or not but a friend who was once homeless told me to always look at a homeless persons feet, it they’re covered up, they probably have brand new shoes on. They knew some homeless people who were dropped off and picked up by car.

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"The most supportive attitude towards homeless people I've seen was in Brighton. There supporting those less fortunate was almost cultural. I've seen taxies slow down and drop food (packets of ready to eat items); churches open there doors as clothes distribution points; people stop, check, then buy an extra fast food meal for a person, or just taking the time to stop and chat.

Coming from towns with more traditional/negative attitudes, this was quite shocking, but it opened my eyes to a more humane way of treating people. (Yes, it has changed the way I respond to people.) "

Hastings is pretty good too.

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By *ldgeezermeMan 2 weeks ago

Newcastle, Throckley


"Not sure if it’s true or not but a friend who was once homeless told me to always look at a homeless persons feet, it they’re covered up, they probably have brand new shoes on. They knew some homeless people who were dropped off and picked up by car. "

That's interesting

I saw someone a while ago tipping his coffee cup of cash into his pocket, I noticed his top notch trainers, glowing white socks and North Face jacket

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By *eautifully-TwistedWoman 2 weeks ago

Telford

I mean I don't have the money to genuinely help them get off the street. I see a few begging around our way. I've put money in the pots before but it's not enough to have much impact.

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By *heGateKeeperMan 2 weeks ago

Stratford

Whilst everyone has asked why it matters if they are a man or woman, I think our con*cious or uncon*cious bias does play out in the immediate moment

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"I mean I don't have the money to genuinely help them get off the street. I see a few begging around our way. I've put money in the pots before but it's not enough to have much impact. "

I don't think many of us could fund a home for someone. I honestly believe that the authorities are happy to accept a certain level of homelessness (while continuing to demonise them) otherwise accommodation would be available for people who need it.

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman 2 weeks ago

Next Door

I've often bought a homeless person some food or drink. I would rather they had that then giving them money.

I remember being out in Liverpool with some people, I stop off at maccies d's and bought 2 meal deals and gave it to the homeless couple in the next door way. The group I was with, were totally gobsmacked with what I had done.

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By *undee2Man 2 weeks ago

Dundee

There are so many organised begging gangs, it is big business. There are a couple of people I know who are genuinely homeless so will give them cash. Others I am judgemental. Rightly or wrongly, I do look at age, ethnicity (eastern Europe), clothes, shoes, cleanliness, haircuts etc as clues. In the main, I donate to Eagles Wings and Salvation Army.

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

If I was homeless and o sincerely hope that I never find myself in that position, I hope people would treat me with dignity and as a fellow human being. If they wanted to help me I hope they'd ask me how I would like to be helped rather than just assume they knew what I wanted.

Mostly though I just hope it never happens to me

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By *ad NannaWoman 2 weeks ago

East London

I gave a homeless lady my hot chocolate one evening as I'd given a homeless man the last of my change a minute before I saw her.

I hadn't drank any of it and she was very happy to accept it.

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By *ad NannaWoman 2 weeks ago

East London


"There are so many organised begging gangs, it is big business. There are a couple of people I know who are genuinely homeless so will give them cash. Others I am judgemental. Rightly or wrongly, I do look at age, ethnicity (eastern Europe), clothes, shoes, cleanliness, haircuts etc as clues. In the main, I donate to Eagles Wings and Salvation Army."

What if someone had just given them a new pair of trainers or coat?

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By *glyBettyTV/TS 2 weeks ago

About 3 feet away from the fence

My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

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By *ad NannaWoman 2 weeks ago

East London


"I mean I don't have the money to genuinely help them get off the street. I see a few begging around our way. I've put money in the pots before but it's not enough to have much impact.

I don't think many of us could fund a home for someone. I honestly believe that the authorities are happy to accept a certain level of homelessness (while continuing to demonise them) otherwise accommodation would be available for people who need it. "

We've had a big rise in the number of homeless people in the last few years. The inner London Boroughs had a drive to combat homelessness and they moved further out.

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"I mean I don't have the money to genuinely help them get off the street. I see a few begging around our way. I've put money in the pots before but it's not enough to have much impact.

I don't think many of us could fund a home for someone. I honestly believe that the authorities are happy to accept a certain level of homelessness (while continuing to demonise them) otherwise accommodation would be available for people who need it.

We've had a big rise in the number of homeless people in the last few years. The inner London Boroughs had a drive to combat homelessness and they moved further out.

"

Yes the main way of dealing with homelessness seems to be to move people on rather than actually trying to get them housed. That and getting people to believe it's all their fault

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By *ot to giggleWoman 2 weeks ago

Coventry


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr "

how can you say if they are genuinely homeless? a lot of homeless people are struggling with mental health issues, they require support and treatment which is not available to them. they can be either gender - giving money doesnt really help because they often just feed their addiction with it. I often bought hot drinks and food for people i have encountered. But also they can be overwhelming and frightening to people - my 18 yr old daughter was spoken to by a car park meter and it worried her - I totally understand that. It funny how during Covid space was found for these people - just saying!!!

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By *ot to giggleWoman 2 weeks ago

Coventry


"After a series of poor decisions, my son was homeless for about a year. His ‘inside knowledge’ changed my perception of homelessness entirely!

“Do you know what the worst thing about being homeless is?”

….. hunger, cold, loneliness, fear, shame …..

“You’re invisible, when you’re homeless, you’re invisible to almost everyone else”

His words, not mine. "

i hope your son has been able to sort himself out - that is so true - i worked with an organisation that got funding for a while pre covid to see if we could support homeless with CAB into housing - it was really difficult, so many wrap around services were required and not available - then typically the funding was cut and we had to stop

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By *ockney-JMan 2 weeks ago

Thailand 3 weeks

The attitude to homeless people and rough sleepers in this country is sickening at times.

Many of them fall through the system, they are failed by it, especially those with mental illness and/ or diagnosed or undiagnosed conditions such as autism or learning disabilities.

Many others have had very traumatic lives. Yet they have to face being abused, urinated on, kicked in the face, possessions set on fire or murdered.

In terms of drug beggars, you cannot put them all in the same bracket as poor life choices. Again many have had traumas, such as childhood sexual abuse etc that have messed their lives up.

I even see people snarl at Big Issue sellers, individuals working hard and trying to rebuild.

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By *ockney-JMan 2 weeks ago

Thailand 3 weeks


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice."

That is not true, much to my disgust my friend with mental health issues ended up homeless, she was driven out by a perverted landlord. She is vulnerable and in her 50s.

She was told by council to sleep in her car and they would send outreach workers to check on her! She ended up sleeping in a park until an old acquaintance saw her and helped her. She was too embarrassed to tell me or other friends of her situation.

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By *amie HantsWoman 2 weeks ago

Atlantis


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice."

You’re wrong on this.

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
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East Sussex

Section 21 evictions have resulted in a lot of women becoming effectively homeless. They aren't always on the street, often they're sitting in council offices with their children waiting to see if temporary accommodation in a b and b can be found for them

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By *glyBettyTV/TS 2 weeks ago

About 3 feet away from the fence


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

You’re wrong on this. "

How often do you see a homeless woman as opposed to a homeless man?

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By *eeliciouschaosWoman 2 weeks ago

Wherever


"There are so many organised begging gangs, it is big business. There are a couple of people I know who are genuinely homeless so will give them cash. Others I am judgemental. Rightly or wrongly, I do look at age, ethnicity (eastern Europe), clothes, shoes, cleanliness, haircuts etc as clues. In the main, I donate to Eagles Wings and Salvation Army."

Out of curiosity, how do you know someone is of Eastern Europe ethnicity just by looking at them?

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

You’re wrong on this.

How often do you see a homeless woman as opposed to a homeless man?"

In this area I'd say it's 25% women

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By *oistvonlipwigMan 2 weeks ago

Lancaster

It depends on the I individual and the sex doesn't matter.

There's one lass round here who I see in the morning up and about,always looks/seems sober, I sometimes have a brief chat with her and give her a cigarette or whatever, have bought her a coffee once or twice. the amount I see still sleeping though whilst I'm on my way to work and the world is stirring, only to see them on my way home sitting with cans of strong beer in town laughing and joking, leaving a mess, They can stay in their piss soaked doorways forever as far as I'm concerned, I'd not give them the steam off my s**t.

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By *amie HantsWoman 2 weeks ago

Atlantis


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

You’re wrong on this.

How often do you see a homeless woman as opposed to a homeless man?"

More than half of my service users are women. Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they don’t exist

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By *r Cheeky cheekyMan 2 weeks ago

essex


"No more than I would help a man. Being kind isn’t gender specific to me.

Saying that, I don’t give cash. Sometimes I’ll buy them some food or a drink, it really depends where I am and what I’m doing as to whether I will help.

"

ditto

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By *oistvonlipwigMan 2 weeks ago

Lancaster


"There are so many organised begging gangs, it is big business. There are a couple of people I know who are genuinely homeless so will give them cash. Others I am judgemental. Rightly or wrongly, I do look at age, ethnicity (eastern Europe), clothes, shoes, cleanliness, haircuts etc as clues. In the main, I donate to Eagles Wings and Salvation Army.

Out of curiosity, how do you know someone is of Eastern Europe ethnicity just by looking at them?"

They may have eastern Europe facial features. Google them for further help.

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By *onnie 90Woman 2 weeks ago

Leeds


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr "

The thing is how do you tell? We're both in Leeds and I expect, like myself, you pop into town every now and then. It's sad to see so many people begging or just sitting quietly with a cup in front of them. As has been previously said, some are genuinely homeless. Other's are begging for drug money. It's a catch 22 situation.

I'm not being political here so please don't gang up on me. But the government is paying in excess of £8 per week to look after illegal immigrants often in plush hotels. Would it do any harm to use some of that money (an absolute fortune) to help the genuinely needy and homeless people of the UK?

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By *ongWayAroundMan 2 weeks ago

Boston

It is an easy trap to fall into and a hard one to work your way out of. You are all much closer to that possibility than you realise.

I never give money to beggars simply because I don't know what their status and history actually is. I do try to empathise with them and wonder what I would do if I were in that position.

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By *eeliciouschaosWoman 2 weeks ago

Wherever


"There are so many organised begging gangs, it is big business. There are a couple of people I know who are genuinely homeless so will give them cash. Others I am judgemental. Rightly or wrongly, I do look at age, ethnicity (eastern Europe), clothes, shoes, cleanliness, haircuts etc as clues. In the main, I donate to Eagles Wings and Salvation Army.

Out of curiosity, how do you know someone is of Eastern Europe ethnicity just by looking at them?

They may have eastern Europe facial features. Google them for further help.

"

This tells me everything I need to know.

Thank you for your input.

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By *heBelladonnaWoman 2 weeks ago

Somewhere Out There In The World

I bend down, have a chat, ask if they’ve eaten. Ask if they’d like a warm meal/drink. Bring them a warm meal, and typically a bag full of ready to eat food a as a drinks as well. Hot in winter, cold in summer.

Their sex/gender doesn’t matter. I equally chat with males too.

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By *r.Stephen-PickleMan 2 weeks ago

Ends

If it was Suella Braverman I wouldn’t. As it would be a choice for her to be in that position

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By *glyBettyTV/TS 2 weeks ago

About 3 feet away from the fence


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

You’re wrong on this.

How often do you see a homeless woman as opposed to a homeless man?

More than half of my service users are women. Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they don’t exist "

Well according to the statistics from the source below, in 2022, 84% of all people reported to be sleeping rough on any given night are men.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382196/rough-sleepers-england-by-gender

Of the 10,354 people reported to be sleeping rough in London during 2022/23, 8,172 were men (84%)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/381373/london-homelessness-rough-sleepers-by-gender/

So although I take your point that the users of your particular service are mostly women, it's disproportionately so for whatever reason.

That's kind of the point. Specialized services appear to have found & processed many of the homeless women before most people see them.

It's not just about services, though. Socially, homeless men just do not have as many support networks.

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By *ockney-JMan 2 weeks ago

Thailand 3 weeks


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

The thing is how do you tell? We're both in Leeds and I expect, like myself, you pop into town every now and then. It's sad to see so many people begging or just sitting quietly with a cup in front of them. As has been previously said, some are genuinely homeless. Other's are begging for drug money. It's a catch 22 situation.

I'm not being political here so please don't gang up on me. But the government is paying in excess of £8 per week to look after illegal immigrants often in plush hotels. Would it do any harm to use some of that money (an absolute fortune) to help the genuinely needy and homeless people of the UK? "

Could not agree more it is a disgrace. No apology from me on that

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By *he turned me GreyCouple 2 weeks ago

Warwick and Coventry


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr "

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 2 weeks ago

King's Crustacean


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

You’re wrong on this.

How often do you see a homeless woman as opposed to a homeless man?"

That doesn't prove much.

On my observations alone i'd say I see far more homeless women now in Liverpool City Centre than I used to - it's not 50 / 50 but there are a lot of women.

Maybe I should ask them why they CHOOSE this life.

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By *glyBettyTV/TS 2 weeks ago

About 3 feet away from the fence


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

You’re wrong on this.

How often do you see a homeless woman as opposed to a homeless man?

That doesn't prove much.

On my observations alone i'd say I see far more homeless women now in Liverpool City Centre than I used to - it's not 50 / 50 but there are a lot of women.

Maybe I should ask them why they CHOOSE this life."

Anecdote for anecdote, I'm very familiar with central Liverpool and I don't think I've seen a homeless woman yet.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

I'll tell the same story that I have told before.

Back in the early 90's I was working on a site not far from vauxhall bridge ( in London for the country folk) every day when we arrived sitting near the site near was a homeless chap.

Every day we would give him a couple of quid, he was always greatful, well after a couple of weeks we started bringing in extra food for him sandwich, fruit and so on...

Well one day the site manager asked if we could come in an hour earlier to help with a large delivery of timber.

We did the lorry was turning up at 7am so we arrived around 6:45.

As we are standing outside my mate says

" That guy over there looks like that homeless chap but it can't be he's wearing a suit and has a briefcase"

We watched him disappear behind the site hut's and a couple of minutes later he appeared all scruffy and looking homeless.

We observed him for a day or two and went to search for his briefcase.

Sure enough we found it and opened it to discover neatly folded clothes and shoes inside.

We put it back and called the police.

Turn's out this guy was well known and had been doing it for ages and been caught out.

Not sure what happened to him after that but he never came back.

A few of the guys wanted to launch him into the Thames.

Anyway whilst there's plenty of genuine homeless people who I'd happily help there's also far to many organised criminals who are making big money from fleecing well meaning people.

I'm too cynical these days and I will only buy big issue rather than give money to a random.

Does anyone remember around the time of the Kosovo war groups of children claiming to be orphaned refugees getting on the London underground trains with printed cards saying

" I'm an orphan and can't speak English can you please spare me a few pennies for food"

Once again this was a total scam run by organised gangs feeding off tourists.

So I am very cynical nowadays.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 2 weeks ago

Leeds


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr "

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

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By *ockney-JMan 2 weeks ago

Thailand 3 weeks


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr "

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 2 weeks ago

Leeds


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed"

Full of shit, I’ve been there, rock bottom, I’ve been offered smack many many times, no matter how bad my life got I would never touch that shit.

The mr

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By *icecouple561Couple 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

If all homeless people are wrong 'uns then it can never happen to us.

If some people are on the streets due to circumstances beyond their control we might start demanding change and that would never do.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 2 weeks ago

King's Crustacean


"My immediate thought upon seeing a homeless woman is that she's probably on drugs.

The safety net for women in society is such that it's almost impossible for a woman to end up homeless unless it's by choice.

You’re wrong on this.

How often do you see a homeless woman as opposed to a homeless man?

That doesn't prove much.

On my observations alone i'd say I see far more homeless women now in Liverpool City Centre than I used to - it's not 50 / 50 but there are a lot of women.

Maybe I should ask them why they CHOOSE this life.

Anecdote for anecdote, I'm very familiar with central Liverpool and I don't think I've seen a homeless woman yet."

You asked. I answered. I see them often. Daily in fact.

Substantiated anecdote is fine by me.

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By *ockney-JMan 2 weeks ago

Thailand 3 weeks


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed

Full of shit, I’ve been there, rock bottom, I’ve been offered smack many many times, no matter how bad my life got I would never touch that shit.

The mr "

It really is not, I know of such cases myself and also one of my old neighbours was a homeless outreach worker, we used to speak about it all. Not all people are the same, people have different levels of mental strength, life experiences etc. Just because you are mentally strong, does not mean others are - such is the diversity of humans

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed"

whilst this maybe true I would imagine that the numbers who have been "forced" is relatively low in comparison to using by choice.

The circumstances of how someone gets to this point in their lives journey will differ from person to person and there's always going to be a small percentage who are there by choice and others whose mental health is severely damaged by trauma such as ex military or personal trauma, so I would never judge anyone in that situation all I can do is make an educated guess based on my OWN personal experience in working in homeless housing projects and seeing the amount who are drug addicts whose lives are so completely dominated by drug abuse that they cannot function in "normal" society.

The funding available whilst it's considerable they just can't help everyone and it's only a select few who are lucky enough to get assistance and frankly many of those are unfortunately too far gone and many others who just fall through the cracks (no pun intended) in the system.

The other thing that needs to be addressed is the complete and utter failure in the Thatcher lead care in the community program, where going back many years lot's of people who are sleeping rough would have been in an institution,these people cannot function on their own, whilst I think the care in the community is great in many respects as OBVIOUSLY not everyone is in need of hospitalisation clearly they just need love care and attention and access to correct services.

However many will never be able to get this help and will ultimately end up alone and destitute.

You factor in also people arriving illegally in this country and living illegally a number that's growing daily.

There's just not enough support and help for everyone so I would imagine that a very small percentage of people who are in need of help will actually get it and those that do a percentage will end up back on the street.

Like i said I try not to judge because "there by the grace of God go I"

I left home at 15 and could have easily ended up on the street I was a functioning alcoholic at this age, luckily I found someone who is now my wife of many years.

But thing's could have gone a very different way......

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 2 weeks ago

Leeds


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed

Full of shit, I’ve been there, rock bottom, I’ve been offered smack many many times, no matter how bad my life got I would never touch that shit.

The mr

It really is not, I know of such cases myself and also one of my old neighbours was a homeless outreach worker, we used to speak about it all. Not all people are the same, people have different levels of mental strength, life experiences etc. Just because you are mentally strong, does not mean others are - such is the diversity of humans "

Stop making excuses for other people’s poor decision, I lost friends to it, people I had the upmost respect for reduced to rats scurrying around in the gutter, every single one of them knew what they were taking when they stuck that shit in their arm, no one to blame but themselves.

The mr

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By *he turned me GreyCouple 2 weeks ago

Warwick and Coventry


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed

Full of shit, I’ve been there, rock bottom, I’ve been offered smack many many times, no matter how bad my life got I would never touch that shit.

The mr

It really is not, I know of such cases myself and also one of my old neighbours was a homeless outreach worker, we used to speak about it all. Not all people are the same, people have different levels of mental strength, life experiences etc. Just because you are mentally strong, does not mean others are - such is the diversity of humans

Stop making excuses for other people’s poor decision, I lost friends to it, people I had the upmost respect for reduced to rats scurrying around in the gutter, every single one of them knew what they were taking when they stuck that shit in their arm, no one to blame but themselves.

The mr "

You are talking about addiction, the saddest thing is you don't even know that you are.

Sorry for you loses, but no one ever said, today Matthew I'm going to be a smack head. Yes they chose to use in the first insistence....but then that control very quickly goes.....

Mr

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By *ansoffateMan 2 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

I often help homeless people or just have a chat with them.

It's an awful feeling when thousands of people just walk past you and you are on the bones of your arse, hungry.

I'm tired of hearing people talk about homeless people as if they are some kind of infestation. There are more vacant properties than homeless people in this country - if that's not a clear indication of a structural social issue I don't know what is. Seagulls seem to be more welcome than people in city centres these days.

I bought some guy Popeye's chicken last week, gave another a few quid the week before outside Tesco.

As if everyone on the streets is there just because they made bad decisions. So much correspondence bias going on these days. And even if they did, so what do we want to live in a society that says to people fuck off and die in the gutter quietly? Bit of compassion can help people turn their lives around or at least ease a bit of suffering.

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan 2 weeks ago

belfast

I don't help them. Too many fakes and druggies. Was practically a fashion thing here for a while.

Druggies blaming their issues on the troubles. The troubles were over before most were born.

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By *lder.Woman 2 weeks ago

Not Local

The homeless here are well looked after, in terms of people offering food and chats and keeping an eye on them. If you sit for any amount of time in town there are lots of people willing to offer up their money or food and time for a chat. If I was worried about someone we have a Streetwatch, or similair, charity that will send someone out to offer help. A few of our homeless don't want the help or to be rehomed for various reasons and they are permanent fixtures.

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By *ackformore100Man 2 weeks ago

Tin town

Where I am right now... There are loads of beggars... "beeeg eeeshooo meeester"... Pretty much all foreign. No idea who is homeless and who isn't.

There's also right next to them right now 3 charity cohorts to navigate... An armed forces charity... A dogs charity... And the ubiquitous cancer charity..

This is happening all outside a tescos express, a kebab van, a McDonald's and an oxfam shop.

Where are you spending your money?

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 2 weeks ago

Leeds


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed

Full of shit, I’ve been there, rock bottom, I’ve been offered smack many many times, no matter how bad my life got I would never touch that shit.

The mr

It really is not, I know of such cases myself and also one of my old neighbours was a homeless outreach worker, we used to speak about it all. Not all people are the same, people have different levels of mental strength, life experiences etc. Just because you are mentally strong, does not mean others are - such is the diversity of humans

Stop making excuses for other people’s poor decision, I lost friends to it, people I had the upmost respect for reduced to rats scurrying around in the gutter, every single one of them knew what they were taking when they stuck that shit in their arm, no one to blame but themselves.

The mr

You are talking about addiction, the saddest thing is you don't even know that you are.

Sorry for you loses, but no one ever said, today Matthew I'm going to be a smack head. Yes they chose to use in the first insistence....but then that control very quickly goes.....

Mr "

My point exactly, everyone knows the consequences, two or three hits and that shits got you, yet they still decided to say yes knowing full well that their life is about to be ruined. Yes they may not wake up one morning and stay “ I fancy being a smackhead “ but they don’t do a lot to not be one either.

The mr

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By *ackformore100Man 2 weeks ago

Tin town

Whenever the subject of homelessness comes up I am always reminded of this story and the power a bit of kindness can have on people's lives.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/hero-ray-wilkins-amazing-act-12315913

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By *atureGuy62Man 2 weeks ago

DE7


"If you saw a homeless lady on the Street would you help her and how??

No. But I’d help a homeless bear. "

Fuck bears

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By *ackformore100Man 2 weeks ago

Tin town


"If you saw a homeless lady on the Street would you help her and how??

No. But I’d help a homeless bear.

Fuck bears "

Bear back?

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By *he turned me GreyCouple 2 weeks ago

Warwick and Coventry


"If they are a baghead, no.

If they genuinely homeless, yeah.

The mr

That's interesting Mr. ( seriously ) Why not help a bag head ?

Rats.

The mr

I'd love to dig deeper but it's off topic. Thanks for answering.

I feel the same to be fair when I see people with white sliced bread in their basket.

Bit harsh on someone just buying bread compared to someone who would sell their nan for a 10 bag.

The mr

Bit harsh and judgemental on the addicted, when you do not the causes to the addiction in the first place. Addiction is not about the drugs..

Mr

I’m not talking about addiction, I’m talking about homeless bagheads. Don’t care why they are a baghead they made that choice, they weren’t forced into it, no matter how bad your circumstances, everybody can say no.

The mr

Some vulnerable people are forced or pressured into drug use by acquaintances or former abusive partners. It really is not as black and white as you just expressed

Full of shit, I’ve been there, rock bottom, I’ve been offered smack many many times, no matter how bad my life got I would never touch that shit.

The mr

It really is not, I know of such cases myself and also one of my old neighbours was a homeless outreach worker, we used to speak about it all. Not all people are the same, people have different levels of mental strength, life experiences etc. Just because you are mentally strong, does not mean others are - such is the diversity of humans

Stop making excuses for other people’s poor decision, I lost friends to it, people I had the upmost respect for reduced to rats scurrying around in the gutter, every single one of them knew what they were taking when they stuck that shit in their arm, no one to blame but themselves.

The mr

You are talking about addiction, the saddest thing is you don't even know that you are.

Sorry for you loses, but no one ever said, today Matthew I'm going to be a smack head. Yes they chose to use in the first insistence....but then that control very quickly goes.....

Mr

My point exactly, everyone knows the consequences, two or three hits and that shits got you, yet they still decided to say yes knowing full well that their life is about to be ruined. Yes they may not wake up one morning and stay “ I fancy being a smackhead “ but they don’t do a lot to not be one either.

The mr "

I dont agree, I'm sure they didn't sign up for the consequences that they recieved when they first used Heroin, I didnt sit there when I first used smack, and say to myself or know, that I'd lose the next 20 years of my life, destroying everything in my life and family's life.....but here we are one of those recovering bag heads who was a rat at one time....I didnt sign up for what was to come ....

Mr

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By *undee2Man 2 weeks ago

Dundee


"There are so many organised begging gangs, it is big business. There are a couple of people I know who are genuinely homeless so will give them cash. Others I am judgemental. Rightly or wrongly, I do look at age, ethnicity (eastern Europe), clothes, shoes, cleanliness, haircuts etc as clues. In the main, I donate to Eagles Wings and Salvation Army.

Out of curiosity, how do you know someone is of Eastern Europe ethnicity just by looking at them?

They may have eastern Europe facial features. Google them for further help.

"

Only that I lived in eastern Europe for seven years and experienced a lot of the same techniques and picked up a few words and accents. As I said, rightly or wrongly and I do donate to local charities who do provide food and shelter daily.

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