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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"Emotional thinking" decision making and problem solving influenced by emotions, feelings and personal experiences.
It creates subjective judgments and decisions based on how you feel about a particular situation rather than being objective to the question or problem.
"Critical thinking" requires you to question assumptions, consider alternative perspectives, and apply logic to assess arguments or alternative views.
It should remove bias and subjectivity by focusing in on evidence regardless of subject.
Is this part of the forum driven by a lack of critical thinking?
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By *oo hotCouple 17 weeks ago
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""Emotional thinking" decision making and problem solving influenced by emotions, feelings and personal experiences.
It creates subjective judgments and decisions based on how you feel about a particular situation rather than being objective to the question or problem.
"Critical thinking" requires you to question assumptions, consider alternative perspectives, and apply logic to assess arguments or alternative views.
It should remove bias and subjectivity by focusing in on evidence regardless of subject.
Is this part of the forum driven by a lack of critical thinking?
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Dunno about this forum but certainly the Brexit vote was heavily influenced by emotional thinking.
James O’Brian’s latest book analysis this in some detail. |
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A good headline can catch you out and evoke an initial emotional response. Then you read the actual article which always has huge holes and leaves many questions unanswered. Frustrating when simple questions aren't asked or when a reporter wastes time by rephraseing the one question. |
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""Emotional thinking" decision making and problem solving influenced by emotions, feelings and personal experiences.
It creates subjective judgments and decisions based on how you feel about a particular situation rather than being objective to the question or problem.
"Critical thinking" requires you to question assumptions, consider alternative perspectives, and apply logic to assess arguments or alternative views.
It should remove bias and subjectivity by focusing in on evidence regardless of subject.
Is this part of the forum driven by a lack of critical thinking?
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Oh puhlease - my critical thinking is reserved for work.
Why should one remove emotional input here? |
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There are two parts to it - What do you want to achieve? And how do you want to achieve it?
In politics and most other parts of our lives, what we want to achieve is always an emotional decision. There is no rationality behind it. So arguments in political forums about what outcome we want to achieve usually lead nowhere.
How we want to achieve it is where critical thinking comes into picture. Arguments about how we want to achieve have a good chance of actually reaching a conclusion as long as both parties are arguing with an open mind.
The Sunak debate on other threads is basically a conflict between people who have completely different ideologies on what kind of society they want. It was always going to be emotional. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"There are two parts to it - What do you want to achieve? And how do you want to achieve it?
In politics and most other parts of our lives, what we want to achieve is always an emotional decision. There is no rationality behind it. So arguments in political forums about what outcome we want to achieve usually lead nowhere.
How we want to achieve it is where critical thinking comes into picture. Arguments about how we want to achieve have a good chance of actually reaching a conclusion as long as both parties are arguing with an open mind.
The Sunak debate on other threads is basically a conflict between people who have completely different ideologies on what kind of society they want. It was always going to be emotional."
I tend to agree that decisions being made that will impact you, will fall towards your moral compass and would rely on some emotional input.
What I don't agree with is letting an emotional response change the facts of the matter.
Emotional thinking that shapes opinions can be a slippery slope, leading to biased and unreliable conclusions. Relying solely on them to form opinions clouds peoples judgment, hindering rational decision making, as witnessed on the Sunak / Starmer threads. |
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"There are two parts to it - What do you want to achieve? And how do you want to achieve it?
In politics and most other parts of our lives, what we want to achieve is always an emotional decision. There is no rationality behind it. So arguments in political forums about what outcome we want to achieve usually lead nowhere.
How we want to achieve it is where critical thinking comes into picture. Arguments about how we want to achieve have a good chance of actually reaching a conclusion as long as both parties are arguing with an open mind.
The Sunak debate on other threads is basically a conflict between people who have completely different ideologies on what kind of society they want. It was always going to be emotional.
I tend to agree that decisions being made that will impact you, will fall towards your moral compass and would rely on some emotional input.
What I don't agree with is letting an emotional response change the facts of the matter.
Emotional thinking that shapes opinions can be a slippery slope, leading to biased and unreliable conclusions. Relying solely on them to form opinions clouds peoples judgment, hindering rational decision making, as witnessed on the Sunak / Starmer threads."
That I agree 
People do let emotional responses cloud judgements to an extent that they lie about facts. |
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""Emotional thinking" decision making and problem solving influenced by emotions, feelings and personal experiences.
It creates subjective judgments and decisions based on how you feel about a particular situation rather than being objective to the question or problem.
"Critical thinking" requires you to question assumptions, consider alternative perspectives, and apply logic to assess arguments or alternative views.
It should remove bias and subjectivity by focusing in on evidence regardless of subject.
Is this part of the forum driven by a lack of critical thinking?
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I would say lack of critical thinking is more prevalent then a lack of empathy on here but both are a issue. |
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I think almost all of us come from a place of emotion or at least gut feel. After all, how many times have you changed your mind? It's unlikely that you have critiques every subject fully, yet we tend to stick with our first answer. That's emotion. Some are more obviously running with their gut than others.
We often also confuse critical thinking with seeking to find evidence to show we are right. And I've seen many times here people have missused the evidence.
Finally, I sense many of us ask questions we can answer rather than critiquing the question itself as being the right one. Or using critical thinking to understand the so what's of questions. Eg on immigration, what is the consequence of a different level. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs."
Why would you say that, it makes no sense. |
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs.
Why would you say that, it makes no sense."
It rolls of the tounge thou, play it backwards.  |
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs.
Why would you say that, it makes no sense.
It rolls of the tounge thou, play it backwards. "
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs."
The principle reason why I tend to take the notion of 'common sense' with a pinch of salt. |
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs.
Why would you say that, it makes no sense."
Because it’s true, if you think you can remove emotion and bias from how you view things then you are exhibiting extreme hubris. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs.
Why would you say that, it makes no sense.
Because it’s true, if you think you can remove emotion and bias from how you view things then you are exhibiting extreme hubris."
There was post further up that another poster and I had this conversation |
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs.
Why would you say that, it makes no sense.
Because it’s true, if you think you can remove emotion and bias from how you view things then you are exhibiting extreme hubris.
There was post further up that another poster and I had this conversation"
Yes, and you are still incorrect. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"It’s impossible to remove emotion and bias from human thinking. The main evidence for this is that self anointed ‘critical thinkers’ thinking always confirms their previously held beliefs.
Why would you say that, it makes no sense.
Because it’s true, if you think you can remove emotion and bias from how you view things then you are exhibiting extreme hubris.
There was post further up that another poster and I had this conversation
Yes, and you are still incorrect."
Okay, have a lovely evening |
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ? "
Probably when hatred is taken out of the argument and there is respect within a post even if it dissents from the opposing viewpoint. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ? "
Consideration that has been applied. Some events, problems that impact you directly will always come with an amount of personal morality, if that drives every single output you are making, your decisions are based on emotion.
This thread is a perfect example of people taking an emotional view of critical thinking and judging from that stand point as the baseline of truth.
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ?
Consideration that has been applied. Some events, problems that impact you directly will always come with an amount of personal morality, if that drives every single output you are making, your decisions are based on emotion.
This thread is a perfect example of people taking an emotional view of critical thinking and judging from that stand point as the baseline of truth.
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What is truth? |
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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ?
Consideration that has been applied. Some events, problems that impact you directly will always come with an amount of personal morality, if that drives every single output you are making, your decisions are based on emotion.
This thread is a perfect example of people taking an emotional view of critical thinking and judging from that stand point as the baseline of truth.
What is truth?"
Their truth, sorry not the truth.
I’m sure you are smart enough to notice when a poster is being emotional, or actually thinking wider, in the way they present their replies.
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ?
Consideration that has been applied. Some events, problems that impact you directly will always come with an amount of personal morality, if that drives every single output you are making, your decisions are based on emotion.
This thread is a perfect example of people taking an emotional view of critical thinking and judging from that stand point as the baseline of truth.
What is truth?
Their truth, sorry not the truth.
I’m sure you are smart enough to notice when a poster is being emotional, or actually thinking wider, in the way they present their replies.
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Everybody is affected by bias and emotion, all the time. We are the total of our experiences, and those experiences affect how we view everything. They affect every decision we make and every thought we have.
There’s no escaping emotion and experience, that’s why the idea of critical thinking is such a foolish one. We can be aware of our emotions and our biases, we can minimise their influence but we cannot escape them. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man 17 weeks ago
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ?
Consideration that has been applied. Some events, problems that impact you directly will always come with an amount of personal morality, if that drives every single output you are making, your decisions are based on emotion.
This thread is a perfect example of people taking an emotional view of critical thinking and judging from that stand point as the baseline of truth.
What is truth?
Their truth, sorry not the truth.
I’m sure you are smart enough to notice when a poster is being emotional, or actually thinking wider, in the way they present their replies.
Everybody is affected by bias and emotion, all the time. We are the total of our experiences, and those experiences affect how we view everything. They affect every decision we make and every thought we have.
There’s no escaping emotion and experience, that’s why the idea of critical thinking is such a foolish one. We can be aware of our emotions and our biases, we can minimise their influence but we cannot escape them."
Have you ever changed your mind? And on that note, I will leave it there |
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ?
Consideration that has been applied. Some events, problems that impact you directly will always come with an amount of personal morality, if that drives every single output you are making, your decisions are based on emotion.
This thread is a perfect example of people taking an emotional view of critical thinking and judging from that stand point as the baseline of truth.
What is truth?
Their truth, sorry not the truth.
I’m sure you are smart enough to notice when a poster is being emotional, or actually thinking wider, in the way they present their replies.
Everybody is affected by bias and emotion, all the time. We are the total of our experiences, and those experiences affect how we view everything. They affect every decision we make and every thought we have.
There’s no escaping emotion and experience, that’s why the idea of critical thinking is such a foolish one. We can be aware of our emotions and our biases, we can minimise their influence but we cannot escape them."
Absolutely. We apply our own yardstick to judge/assess something. Not until we gain self awareness can we minimise these influences. Obviously academically critiquing something, the bias (however slight) is seen in our report. This becomes our voice.
I will never apply academic critique to somewhere like this. Good lord my brain would go grey  |
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""Emotional thinking" decision making and problem solving influenced by emotions, feelings and personal experiences.
It creates subjective judgments and decisions based on how you feel about a particular situation rather than being objective to the question or problem.
"Critical thinking" requires you to question assumptions, consider alternative perspectives, and apply logic to assess arguments or alternative views.
It should remove bias and subjectivity by focusing in on evidence regardless of subject.
Is this part of the forum driven by a lack of critical thinking?
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Says the guy who attacks the messenger when he can't argue against the message. Very rational and critical thinker indeed lol |
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ? "
When you introspect the decision to ensure it is free from emotion perhaps ?
It's not an easy task, but you can strip out emotive reasoning which is irrational, to arrive at logical reasoning (or very heavily weighted towards logical).
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"How does one know when one has removed all emotion from a decision or view ?
Consideration that has been applied. Some events, problems that impact you directly will always come with an amount of personal morality, if that drives every single output you are making, your decisions are based on emotion.
This thread is a perfect example of people taking an emotional view of critical thinking and judging from that stand point as the baseline of truth.
What is truth?
Their truth, sorry not the truth.
I’m sure you are smart enough to notice when a poster is being emotional, or actually thinking wider, in the way they present their replies.
Everybody is affected by bias and emotion, all the time. We are the total of our experiences, and those experiences affect how we view everything. They affect every decision we make and every thought we have.
There’s no escaping emotion and experience, that’s why the idea of critical thinking is such a foolish one. We can be aware of our emotions and our biases, we can minimise their influence but we cannot escape them.
Have you ever changed your mind? And on that note, I will leave it there "
On many occasions.
“When the evidence changes, so I change my mind. Why sir, what do you do?” - John Maynard Keynes |
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