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So, what does a no deal look like now?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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EU says it would not open talks with UK after no-deal Brexit until it agrees to divorce bill and Irish backstop
If the EU stick to that line then that's a major section of hard-line leavers plans quashed.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
They've been chasing unicorns for years.
Easiest deal in history.
Leaving without one was Project Fear.
German car manufacturers will swing it.
All bollocks.
All repeated ad nauseum in the Daily Mail.
Whose owners, coincidentally, were named and shamed today as beneficiaries of illegal tax avoidance activity.
The UK Government was instructed to recover billions of £s in lost revenue.
Just a shame it took the EU investigators rather than our own to stand up to the preachers of hate in our midst.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?"
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK. "
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
There is a bizarre inconsistency in the UK proposal.
It says there will be zero duty on animal products like beef crossing from Ireland into NI - but there will be duty on animal products like beef crossing the English Channel into the UK.
Expect legal challenges. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK."
So The Good Friday Agreement gets broken either way because of the UK. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK.
So The Good Friday Agreement gets broken either way because of the UK. "
Or the EU could respond in kind and go to zero tariffs as well?
Or go very quickly to a free trade agreement?
And that would be down to the EU. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They've been chasing unicorns for years.
Easiest deal in history.
Leaving without one was Project Fear.
German car manufacturers will swing it.
All bollocks.
All repeated ad nauseum in the Daily Mail.
Whose owners, coincidentally, were named and shamed today as beneficiaries of illegal tax avoidance activity.
The UK Government was instructed to recover billions of £s in lost revenue.
Just a shame it took the EU investigators rather than our own to stand up to the preachers of hate in our midst.
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Hi. I think you forgot to mention that the Daily Mail is an award winning newspaper which has increased its circulation in a highly competitive market .
I guess to some people the truth hurts . The newspaper undertakes excellent investigative journalism.
In addition they organised a lengthy campaign to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.
Do you actually buy the Daily Mail and are you aware of its key journalists ?. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They've been chasing unicorns for years.
Easiest deal in history.
Leaving without one was Project Fear.
German car manufacturers will swing it.
All bollocks.
All repeated ad nauseum in the Daily Mail.
Whose owners, coincidentally, were named and shamed today as beneficiaries of illegal tax avoidance activity.
The UK Government was instructed to recover billions of £s in lost revenue.
Just a shame it took the EU investigators rather than our own to stand up to the preachers of hate in our midst.
Hi. I think you forgot to mention that the Daily Mail is an award winning newspaper which has increased its circulation in a highly competitive market .
I guess to some people the truth hurts . The newspaper undertakes excellent investigative journalism.
In addition they organised a lengthy campaign to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.
Do you actually buy the Daily Mail and are you aware of its key journalists ?."
Absolutely amazing. If you genuinely think the daily mail is a good news paper then you are officially off your rocker. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"Under the WTO Most favoured nation ruling if we don't check goods coming into the UK from Eire, then we can't check goods coming from China."
Stop worrying about rules they will be ignored when it suits as they allways are by governments throughtout the world
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?"
We will not put up a border and the Irish will refuse and argue with the EU.The Irish need that border open and so it will be open as it suits us to
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK."
Your understanding is mostly incorrect. There is no legal requirement for either the EU or the UK to place either a border or tariffs anywhere. However, if we choose to trade with each other under WTO 'most favoured nation' terms then we have to treat each other in exactly the same way as we trade with other 'most favoured nation' countries. If we make an exception for Ireland or the EU, and/or the EU or Ireland makes an exception for us, then either or both the UK, EU and Ireland could leave itself open to legal action in the WTO court of arbitration for unfair trading practices.
It would also be extremely unlikely that the WTO would agree to the UK's trading and tariff schedules if we went to them saying we were going to break their rules before we even start. |
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"They've been chasing unicorns for years.
Easiest deal in history.
Leaving without one was Project Fear.
German car manufacturers will swing it.
All bollocks.
All repeated ad nauseum in the Daily Mail.
Whose owners, coincidentally, were named and shamed today as beneficiaries of illegal tax avoidance activity.
The UK Government was instructed to recover billions of £s in lost revenue.
Just a shame it took the EU investigators rather than our own to stand up to the preachers of hate in our midst.
Hi. I think you forgot to mention that the Daily Mail is an award winning newspaper which has increased its circulation in a highly competitive market .
I guess to some people the truth hurts . The newspaper undertakes excellent investigative journalism.
In addition they organised a lengthy campaign to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.
Do you actually buy the Daily Mail and are you aware of its key journalists ?."
its full of spite too, poor and often slanderous content which as you have tried to ignore over the past few years when i have pointed out has led it to be top of the pile for paying out in damages..
it is a vile rag and those who extol it, well lets just say they deserve each other.. |
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?We will not put up a border and the Irish will refuse and argue with the EU.The Irish need that border open and so it will be open as it suits us to"
So you plan to start our brave new future as a global trading nation under WTO terms by breaking all their rules? I can't see that ending well.
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK.
Your understanding is mostly incorrect. There is no legal requirement for either the EU or the UK to place either a border or tariffs anywhere. However, if we choose to trade with each other under WTO 'most favoured nation' terms then we have to treat each other in exactly the same way as we trade with other 'most favoured nation' countries. If we make an exception for Ireland or the EU, and/or the EU or Ireland makes an exception for us, then either or both the UK, EU and Ireland could leave itself open to legal action in the WTO court of arbitration for unfair trading practices.
It would also be extremely unlikely that the WTO would agree to the UK's trading and tariff schedules if we went to them saying we were going to break their rules before we even start."
What, even if we scrapped tariffs for everyone? Had zero tariffs for all? Then surely we are treating every country in the same way? |
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK."
Your understanding is incorrect then.
The Uk is leaving the EU.
Irish Republic is a member of the EU.
To control your borders properly & stop EU Nationals entering the uk you must have border control.
Otherwise "Johnny Foreigner" can walk right in.
As for The 1997 Agreement , thats a whole different can of worms.
P.S Theres going to be a massive Potato famine , but this time it wont be an Irish one. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
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Hi. I think you forgot to mention that the Daily Mail is an award winning newspaper which has increased its circulation in a highly competitive market .
I guess to some people the truth hurts . The newspaper undertakes excellent investigative journalism.
In addition they organised a lengthy campaign to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.
Do you actually buy the Daily Mail and are you aware of its key journalists ?."
Britain's counter-terrorism lead, when asked how white supremacists are radicalised, pointed to the likes of the Daily Mail.
The country's top police officer.
Let that sink in.
A preacher of hate, masquerading as a newspaper.
One owned by a company in Bermuda, to avoid paying corporation tax in the UK.
You might be proud of that - the white equivalent of Choudry.
I certainly ain't.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK.
Your understanding is mostly incorrect. There is no legal requirement for either the EU or the UK to place either a border or tariffs anywhere. However, if we choose to trade with each other under WTO 'most favoured nation' terms then we have to treat each other in exactly the same way as we trade with other 'most favoured nation' countries. If we make an exception for Ireland or the EU, and/or the EU or Ireland makes an exception for us, then either or both the UK, EU and Ireland could leave itself open to legal action in the WTO court of arbitration for unfair trading practices.
It would also be extremely unlikely that the WTO would agree to the UK's trading and tariff schedules if we went to them saying we were going to break their rules before we even start.
What, even if we scrapped tariffs for everyone? Had zero tariffs for all? Then surely we are treating every country in the same way? "
If we have zero tariffs why would any country offer us a free trade deal. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK.
Your understanding is incorrect then.
The Uk is leaving the EU.
Irish Republic is a member of the EU.
To control your borders properly & stop EU Nationals entering the uk you must have border control.
Otherwise "Johnny Foreigner" can walk right in.
As for The 1997 Agreement , thats a whole different can of worms.
P.S Theres going to be a massive Potato famine , but this time it wont be an Irish one."
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I read some where whether this will be true is a another matter but the plan was.
A small two month extension and then 6mths we're in that time a 2 ref will be announced or start taking place but the thing that i saw which might strike everyone that Tommy Robinson an the isis girl was a decoy.
1. Robinson happened
2. Isis girl happened
3. The short extension is happening.
So 4,5 is still in the crystal ball
But no one predicted the water park in the house of commons  |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"I read some where whether this will be true is a another matter but the plan was.
A small two month extension and then 6mths we're in that time a 2 ref will be announced or start taking place but the thing that i saw which might strike everyone that Tommy Robinson an the isis girl was a decoy.
1. Robinson happened
2. Isis girl happened
3. The short extension is happening.
So 4,5 is still in the crystal ball
But no one predicted the water park in the house of commons "
Apart from, apparently, Uri Geller! |
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"I read some where whether this will be true is a another matter but the plan was.
A small two month extension and then 6mths we're in that time a 2 ref will be announced or start taking place but the thing that i saw which might strike everyone that Tommy Robinson an the isis girl was a decoy.
1. Robinson happened
2. Isis girl happened
3. The short extension is happening.
So 4,5 is still in the crystal ball
But no one predicted the water park in the house of commons
Apart from, apparently, Uri Geller!"
I guess that just shows that even remain has some nutters too.   |
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"What would happen to the Ireland / Northern Ireland border if there's a no deal and the UK scraps tariffs?
If we scrapped tarrifs?
No idea about NI but it'd be bye bye agriculture & manufacturing in the UK.
My understanding is that the UK would not have to impose a border.
But that the EU would have to put a border in place going into Ireland from the UK.
Your understanding is mostly incorrect. There is no legal requirement for either the EU or the UK to place either a border or tariffs anywhere. However, if we choose to trade with each other under WTO 'most favoured nation' terms then we have to treat each other in exactly the same way as we trade with other 'most favoured nation' countries. If we make an exception for Ireland or the EU, and/or the EU or Ireland makes an exception for us, then either or both the UK, EU and Ireland could leave itself open to legal action in the WTO court of arbitration for unfair trading practices.
It would also be extremely unlikely that the WTO would agree to the UK's trading and tariff schedules if we went to them saying we were going to break their rules before we even start.
What, even if we scrapped tariffs for everyone? Had zero tariffs for all? Then surely we are treating every country in the same way?
If we have zero tariffs why would any country offer us a free trade deal."
What the idiot forgets is
We can't
Ok so let's say the EU has a tariff of 30 percent on something Chinese
The UK cannot have free trade on that item with the UK and China
It's simple and the leavers have no clue |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They've been chasing unicorns for years.
Easiest deal in history.
Leaving without one was Project Fear.
German car manufacturers will swing it.
All bollocks.
All repeated ad nauseum in the Daily Mail.
Whose owners, coincidentally, were named and shamed today as beneficiaries of illegal tax avoidance activity.
The UK Government was instructed to recover billions of £s in lost revenue.
Just a shame it took the EU investigators rather than our own to stand up to the preachers of hate in our midst.
Hi. I think you forgot to mention that the Daily Mail is an award winning newspaper which has increased its circulation in a highly competitive market .
I guess to some people the truth hurts . The newspaper undertakes excellent investigative journalism.
In addition they organised a lengthy campaign to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.
Do you actually buy the Daily Mail and are you aware of its key journalists ?.
its full of spite too, poor and often slanderous content which as you have tried to ignore over the past few years when i have pointed out has led it to be top of the pile for paying out in damages..
it is a vile rag and those who extol it, well lets just say they deserve each other.. "
It may be a vile rag in your opinion but not to those who either buy or sell it.
My guess is that you neither buy or read it but you you still post your opinion which you are quite entitled to do though it is difficult to know on what basis you form that opinion if you do not read it.
I judge a newspaper not on a few mistakes but on its overall success . ( as I do most things in life ).
It is much bettèr to concentrate on the positives in life as opposed to the negatives.
My support is backed by the 1.3 million who purchase this newspaper.
I am not in a position to estimate how many support you opinion as I lack sufficient information in order to make an informed judgement.. |
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"They've been chasing unicorns for years.
Easiest deal in history.
Leaving without one was Project Fear.
German car manufacturers will swing it.
All bollocks.
All repeated ad nauseum in the Daily Mail.
Whose owners, coincidentally, were named and shamed today as beneficiaries of illegal tax avoidance activity.
The UK Government was instructed to recover billions of £s in lost revenue.
Just a shame it took the EU investigators rather than our own to stand up to the preachers of hate in our midst.
Hi. I think you forgot to mention that the Daily Mail is an award winning newspaper which has increased its circulation in a highly competitive market .
I guess to some people the truth hurts . The newspaper undertakes excellent investigative journalism.
In addition they organised a lengthy campaign to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.
Do you actually buy the Daily Mail and are you aware of its key journalists ?.
its full of spite too, poor and often slanderous content which as you have tried to ignore over the past few years when i have pointed out has led it to be top of the pile for paying out in damages..
it is a vile rag and those who extol it, well lets just say they deserve each other.. It may be a vile rag in your opinion but not to those who either buy or sell it.
My guess is that you neither buy or read it but you you still post your opinion which you are quite entitled to do though it is difficult to know on what basis you form that opinion if you do not read it.
I judge a newspaper not on a few mistakes but on its overall success . ( as I do most things in life ).
It is much bettèr to concentrate on the positives in life as opposed to the negatives.
My support is backed by the 1.3 million who purchase this newspaper.
I am not in a position to estimate how many support you opinion as I lack sufficient information in order to make an informed judgement.."
You do talk some complete gibberish..
Consistently |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So you're celebrating that 1.3 million people read a hate speech publication that promotes hate against Islam, transgender people, the LGBTQ community etc etc.
You're a very bizarre human.
What do you think about Richard Littlejohns articles? |
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