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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Sorry if this has been posted before but some advice please from fellow fabbers.
I have been invited to take part in a couple of gangbangs. I declined at the last minute having seen one advertised where participants had to pay £70 each for the privilege. Is charging commonplace for such events or have I missed out on a couple of experiences I'd like to try?!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Without knowing the ins and outs, I can only guess.
Some gangbangs are at hired venues and a 'small' contribution to cover costs maybe acceptable.
£70 sounds like a scam....report it if I were you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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£70 seriously! Think they are having you on there. If its at a nice apartment then maybe a contribution to the cost but even if just 10 guys turned up then its one hell of a profit. Report it. |
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"Some gangbangs are at hired venues and a 'small' contribution to cover costs maybe acceptable.
£70 sounds like a scam....report it if I were you."
I agree; it's probably commercial. Ask where the ganbang is being held and see if you can work out the cost of the room / venue (RC).
Then look at the photographs of previous events and estimate how many men (M) have turned up to each and contributed (£).
Profit = Mx£ - RC |
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I've hosted/arranged three gangbangs at ether my house or the lady's house and the only charge/cost I have imposed on the guests coming is bring your own favourite brand/size of condoms... wouldn't dream of charging cash. |
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"Some clubs charge single guys £50 to get in. Plenty of profit there. They can charge what they like for the gangbang. If you dont like it dont go."
Mouse played up.
That's a club environment; if it's being arranged privately and you are charging for admission then it may cross the line if any payment is received by the woman if a third party (male or female) is present and taking the cash:
"Prostitute" is defined in section 54(2) of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 as:
"A person who, on at least one occasion and whether or not compelled to do so, offers or provides sexual services to another person in return for payment or a promise of payment to that person or a third person."
The hotel room / premises may be considered a brothel defined as "a place where people of opposite sexes are allowed to resort for illicit intercourse, whether the women are common prostitutes or not". It is not essential to show that the premises are in fact used for the purposes of prostitution (which involves payment for services rendered); a brothel exists where women offer sexual intercourse without charging.
It is not illegal to sell sex at a brothel provided the sex worker is not involved in management or control of the brothel (see second comment, above).
Source: Crown Prosecution Service - Prostitution And Exploitation Of Prostitution |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some clubs charge single guys £50 to get in. Plenty of profit there. They can charge what they like for the gangbang. If you dont like it dont go.
Mouse played up.
That's a club environment; if it's being arranged privately and you are charging for admission then it may cross the line if any payment is received by the woman if a third party (male or female) is present and taking the cash:
"Prostitute" is defined in section 54(2) of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 as:
"A person who, on at least one occasion and whether or not compelled to do so, offers or provides sexual services to another person in return for payment or a promise of payment to that person or a third person."
The hotel room / premises may be considered a brothel defined as "a place where people of opposite sexes are allowed to resort for illicit intercourse, whether the women are common prostitutes or not". It is not essential to show that the premises are in fact used for the purposes of prostitution (which involves payment for services rendered); a brothel exists where women offer sexual intercourse without charging.
It is not illegal to sell sex at a brothel provided the sex worker is not involved in management or control of the brothel (see second comment, above).
Source: Crown Prosecution Service - Prostitution And Exploitation Of Prostitution"
 So in your words any meet in a non club enviroment means your fucking a prostitue if you make a contribution  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Thanks guys. Both were in private homes and of course I'd have brought protection and wine. I can understand cost of hiring venues and also that clubs charge but it's the environment they provide. No problem with that.
Looks like I missed out on 2 genuine ones! I think the one charging is still advertised under meets! |
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"Thanks guys. Both were in private homes and of course I'd have brought protection and wine. I can understand cost of hiring venues and also that clubs charge but it's the environment they provide. No problem with that.
Looks like I missed out on 2 genuine ones! I think the one charging is still advertised under meets! "
you could well have missed out, especially as at house parties |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Thanks guys. Both were in private homes and of course I'd have brought protection and wine. I can understand cost of hiring venues and also that clubs charge but it's the environment they provide. No problem with that.
Looks like I missed out on 2 genuine ones! I think the one charging is still advertised under meets!
you could well have missed out, especially as at house parties"
Well I hope they'll have others!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So what about if.u have to hire a hotel room we where just wondering about this ourselves for our adventures at the weekend room would cost 80 quid for the nite and we would happily show this to all involved |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what about if.u have to hire a hotel room we where just wondering about this ourselves for our adventures at the weekend room would cost 80 quid for the nite and we would happily show this to all involved"
It depends what you intend to do with the room afterwards, stay in it overnight or head home yourselves? |
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"... I declined at the last minute having seen one advertised where participants had to pay £70 each for the privilege. ... "
It's hard to get reliable guys to come to a gangbang at all at all!!!!!! This must be a scam... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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not staying in it ourselves, if we where we would pay was going to ask them if one of them fancied it for the night but not quite sure on the etiquette involved |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'd have no qualms about sharing the room cost proportionately or paying my share. That's for the venue not what takes place there.
Good to get so many interesting responses. Thanks guys and gals |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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thats what i was wondering but i dont like the idea of saying if u want to come your gona have to stump up 20 quid for the room feels like your getting paid for it, obv would show the room reciept so they can see there is no profit or anything like that it was just covering costs |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"thats what i was wondering but i dont like the idea of saying if u want to come your gona have to stump up 20 quid for the room feels like your getting paid for it, obv would show the room reciept so they can see there is no profit or anything like that it was just covering costs"
Exactly the reason why I didn't ask the question to the hosts too! Also didn't want to give them ideas!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A duel girl profile on here has meets once a week where large groups of men are encouraged to attend and pay 60 quid a pop . Yes it's a venue but i'm going to assume the rate isn't 1200 quid for 3 hours ! That's assuming they only have 20 fellas |
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"So in your words any meet in a non club enviroment means your fucking a prostitue if you make a contribution "
My interpretation of the wording of that particular section of the SO Act is that you would, if any of the contribution was passed on to the participating woman. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"[Removed by poster at 25/10/14 21:06:51]"
You can see what they are buying???
So club in question that you said if you google you will see all info are hiring hookers then charging the men £60??
What about the swinging couples that may be there that you mentioned, would they be aware of this? |
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
Plymouth |
The £70 advert. was for a club in Birmingham. Each event has two or three attractive girls provided by the club, with their pics advertised in advance - you can see what you're buying. There may also be swinging couples present who join in the gb or use the private rooms, but the club is mainly for unaccompanied men. There are rarely as many as 20 there, so I doubt that it makes the kind of profit mentioned above. A visit to this club is always my birthday present to me. Google will find the website. |
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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago
Aylesbury |
"I've hosted/arranged three gangbangs at ether my house or the lady's house and the only charge/cost I have imposed on the guests coming is bring your own favourite brand/size of condoms... wouldn't dream of charging cash."
I would love to be gangbanged would I charge no way it's about having fun so if anyone ones to arrange one for me let me know I can accom
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Peeps really ought to be reporting these profiles. It is against site rules to advertise a commercial venture and that is exactly what these are. They are also providing sex in exchange for money and as someone else pointed out, that's illegal. The organisers are pimps and should be prosecuted |
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"A duel girl profile on here has meets once a week where large groups of men are encouraged to attend and pay 60 quid a pop . Yes it's a venue but i'm going to assume the rate isn't 1200 quid for 3 hours ! That's assuming they only have 20 fellas "
Assuming the 20 men at each event, that's £4800 per month less the venue costs which, I'm guessing is probably split between the girls.
One additional event, advertised elsewhere, per week or for 3 another hours on the same day would make for a healthy monthly income, especially if it isn't declared to the Revenue.
Again, the relevant parts of The Sexual Offences Act 2003 are:
"Prostitute" is defined in Section 51(2) as:
"a person (A) who, on at least one occasion and whether or not compelled to do so, offers or provides sexual services to another person in return for payment or a promise of payment to A or a third person; "prostitution" is to be interpreted accordingly."
In relation the brothels:
The difference between offences under sections 33 and 33A arises because the definition of a brothel in English law does not require that the premises are used for the purposes of prostitution since a brothel exists wherever more than one woman offers sexual intercourse, whether for payment or not. Section 33A is also capable of covering premises where people go for non-commercial sexual encounters, such as certain saunas and adult clubs. Section 33A was introduced to increase the maximum penalty for the exploitation of prostitution in circumstances where the element of control required for section 53 is difficult to prove in circumstances where the owner of a brothel puts himself at a distance from the actual running of the establishment.
A brothel is defined as "a place where people of opposite sexes are allowed to resort for illicit intercourse, whether the women are common prostitutes or not". It is not essential to show that the premises are in fact used for the purposes of prostitution (which involves payment for services rendered); a brothel exists where women offer sexual intercourse without charging (Winter v Woolfe [1931] KB 549).
Source: Crown Prosecution Service - Prostitution And Exploitation Of Prostitution
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well fab is happy to allow it's promotion despite the profile being reported by quite a few members "
So move on and dont worry about how people use the site |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well fab is happy to allow it's promotion despite the profile being reported by quite a few members So move on and dont worry about how people use the site "
Wel I do because I don't want o be led to believe that I'm at a nice party only to find the blokes have paid stupid money and expect their money's worth  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well fab is happy to allow it's promotion despite the profile being reported by quite a few members So move on and dont worry about how people use the site
Wel I do because I don't want o be led to believe that I'm at a nice party only to find the blokes have paid stupid money and expect their money's worth "
Women can say no at any party or am i being stupid |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well fab is happy to allow it's promotion despite the profile being reported by quite a few members So move on and dont worry about how people use the site
Wel I do because I don't want o be led to believe that I'm at a nice party only to find the blokes have paid stupid money and expect their money's worth Women can say no at any party or am i being stupid"
Of course they can say no, its the atmosphere, the expectation. Having been to dozens of parties, the few I've been to where men paid a high premium had a different atmosphere. At one I was even groped by a bloke as soon as we were introduced. Needless to say I left straight away, but, had wasted my whole evening including hours getting ready only to be paraded like a piece of meat for the men who had paid. I do not want to attend parties like that again hence I don't want them to be advertised on fabswingers as parties as per their policies. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well fab is happy to allow it's promotion despite the profile being reported by quite a few members So move on and dont worry about how people use the site
Wel I do because I don't want o be led to believe that I'm at a nice party only to find the blokes have paid stupid money and expect their money's worth Women can say no at any party or am i being stupid
Of course they can say no, its the atmosphere, the expectation. Having been to dozens of parties, the few I've been to where men paid a high premium had a different atmosphere. At one I was even groped by a bloke as soon as we were introduced. Needless to say I left straight away, but, had wasted my whole evening including hours getting ready only to be paraded like a piece of meat for the men who had paid. I do not want to attend parties like that again hence I don't want them to be advertised on fabswingers as parties as per their policies. "
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Weird, As if it is the club that I am thinking of...they had the good grace as to tell me that it was not the type of club that I should going to AT THE DOOR and sent me on my way, it was only when hubby took me that they allowed me in!!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The one I'm referring to is a bit odd though . Only two girls attend. And one is only 19. . So 1000s of pounds a week are going somewhere . Is it great capitalism . . Or is something a bit suspect ? |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Peeps really ought to be reporting these profiles."
This. Its so easy to press 'report' yet people won't do that, then come on the forums to moan about them and criticise the admin and mods. There are 1,000s of members and not that many mods, yet we expect them, to do all the work.
You see a profile advertising paid meets, report them! |
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"One seems to have deleted her profile the other one hidden. Personally id not meet any man who thinks a girl swallowing gallons of cum a night is playing safe."
On the plus side she's unlikely to be suffering from any protein deficiency |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One seems to have deleted her profile the other one hidden. Personally id not meet any man who thinks a girl swallowing gallons of cum a night is playing safe."
How do you know the men you meet don't go to bareback gangbangs etc etc? |
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